IRC Log from 2009-07-09

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00:18:39 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
00:21:10 <PatrickPatience> Silly logs and their mentioning my name.
00:21:30 <sar3th> PatrickPatience: huh?
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00:21:37 <PatrickPatience> palogbot: uri
00:21:37 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-07-09#T00-21-37
00:21:39 <SergentSiler> lol patrick
00:21:48 <PatrickPatience> http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/?t=2009-07-09#T00-21-37
00:23:00 <Mokura> Just a real quick question about FF Portable and Java Portable. On the FF Portable page, it says FF can only use Java if it's installed on the host machine, since Java "cannot be made portable". Does the advent of Java Portable change this?
00:24:17 <Gizmokid2005> Mokura: not as of yet.
00:24:28 <Gizmokid2005> I believe there are plans to change this in the future, but I cannot say for sure.
00:24:29 <Mokura> Hmm, okay, thanks.
00:24:44 <Mokura> Also, PortableApps is no longer using the Mibbit web app?
00:24:52 <Mokura> Is it because of the logging rumors?
00:24:58 <ChrisMorgan> Mokura: Freenode blocked Mibbit :-(
00:25:01 <Mokura> OH
00:25:04 <Mokura> There's that, too.
00:25:17 <ChrisMorgan> There are plans, but we've got to find a way first...
00:25:24 <Mokura> Such a shame, mibbit was a decent webirc app otherwise
00:25:27 <ChrisMorgan> So far, there is no known way of changing it.
00:25:43 <ChrisMorgan> Yes, I know... I used to use Mibbit for all my IRC stuff, now I'can't :-(
00:25:55 <Mokura> Do you know of any decent alternatives?
00:26:06 <ChrisMorgan> web based or desktop?
00:26:22 <Mokura> Web based, I use XChat/Portable unless it gets firewall'd
00:26:29 <ChrisMorgan> No.
00:26:37 <Mokura> Ah, darn.
00:26:41 <Mokura> Thank you anyway.
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00:27:13 <ChrisMorgan> I used ChatZilla for a while, then when I started using Chrome instead of Firefox on my own laptop which I recently got, I switched to Pidgin... neither of them are as nice as Mibbit though :-(
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00:29:29 <ChrisMorgan> Oh dear, HarddiskOgg doesn't work properly on Vista... the mixer thing doesn't work, so it's stuck on microphone at 100%... *sigh*
00:30:06 <jnw222|hungry> i love Pidgin for irc
00:30:51 * daBomb69 hates Pidgin's IRC
00:31:11 <Gizmokid2005> meh, pidgin was good when I all wanted was to chat...now that I do more I had to upgrade lol
00:32:08 <ChrisMorgan> to what?
00:32:33 <ChrisMorgan> Oh yeah, Gizmokid2005, what is the history of your nick?
00:32:35 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005, how well does KVIrc work?
00:33:04 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: I have an occassional issue with it, but it's because I'm using the pre-beta of V4. V3 NEVER gave me issues. Ever.
00:33:16 <daBomb69> ah... wow
00:33:36 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: Gizmo was the name of my first dog, plus it's Gizmos (gadgets), kid because I was in HS when I came up with it, and 2005 because it's the year I graduated HS.
00:33:54 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: yeah....so ever since I before I packaged KVIrc3 portable I've been using the pre-beta
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00:34:00 <Gizmokid2005> and it works, really really good too
00:34:00 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable at PortableApps.com and is also developing musicplay3000 the open-source media player inspired by foobar2000
00:34:03 <daBomb69> nice :)
00:34:11 * daBomb69 might try it some time...
00:34:22 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: ... arbitrary :P
00:34:22 <Gizmokid2005> both version are portable :)
00:34:30 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: yeah :)
00:34:32 <daBomb69> yay
00:34:36 <Gizmokid2005> it's what I've used for everything so...
00:35:07 <ChrisMorgan> Why don't you change to using your real name here and in the fora?
00:36:30 <Gizmokid2005> meh, personal preference. My nick is shorter, and I prefer it.
00:36:40 <Gizmokid2005> too many people get my name wrong.
00:36:43 <ChrisMorgan> :P
00:36:45 <Gizmokid2005> my nick is pretty easy
00:37:23 <ChrisMorgan> Misspelling Michael I presume?
00:37:27 <Gizmokid2005> usually
00:37:31 <Gizmokid2005> and my last name people get wrong a lot too
00:37:38 <Gizmokid2005> even though it's right in front of them
00:37:43 <daBomb69> ?
00:37:45 <ChrisMorgan> Really... I would have thought that Secord wasn't that hard to get right.
00:38:00 <daBomb69> that seems rather easy
00:38:04 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, tell me about it
00:38:16 <Gizmokid2005> I get people who do: Second, Seacord, Seecord, etc...
00:38:17 <daBomb69> so does Michael
00:38:21 <ChrisMorgan> Michael Secord... the first time I noted that name on the RT list I wasn't sure who it was, I had to check the email address to find it was you :P
00:38:37 <Gizmokid2005> lol :)
00:38:46 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, my nick is very non-informative about my real name
00:39:06 <daBomb69> Woot! Yay for uninformative nicks!
00:39:18 <ChrisMorgan> Lemmesee... powerjuce, tanisthalon, and you, I think that's all of the official devs which don't use their real names.
00:40:22 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
00:41:11 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: if you don't want log links to pester you, use PatrickJPatience as your nick here :P
00:41:52 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: not too mention, take a gander at what my initials are...not really the best.
00:41:58 <ChrisMorgan> :P
00:42:11 <ChrisMorgan> s/PatrickPatience/http:\/\/patrickpatience.com\//i
00:42:26 <Gizmokid2005> and daBomb69, I get Micheal SOO often it's unbelievable...
00:42:47 <daBomb69> srsly? wow...
00:42:48 <ChrisMorgan> Crazy.
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00:43:17 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, I know.
00:43:19 <ChrisMorgan> http://patrickpatience.com: d'ja wanna clear up any comments at http://portableapps.com/development/test?
00:43:23 <Gizmokid2005> I never figured out what was so hard about it...
00:43:28 <daBomb69> ya...
00:43:42 * daBomb69 has never even seen someone spelled Micheal
00:43:56 <Gizmokid2005> I have...ONE person...I went to school with more than a dozen Michaels...
00:44:10 <daBomb69> wow
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00:44:36 <Gizmokid2005> OMG...grrr sorry
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00:48:10 <Gizmokid2005> back in a few
00:48:33 <ChrisMorgan> development/test: added GanttProject and Sweet Home 3D, VisualBoy Advance, removed Blender (official) and Stellarium update note (updated). Respective comments may be removed.
00:48:52 <jnw222|hungry> yay
00:49:45 <ChrisMorgan> Now I'll do some mroe.
00:50:27 <daBomb69> Hey, a PA has to have the most recent installer format, ight?
00:52:40 <jnw222|hungry> try to
00:52:56 <ChrisMorgan> yea
00:53:42 <daBomb69> k
00:54:09 * daBomb69 just remembered he needs to update Gnumeric Portable for most recent installer
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01:05:34 <ChrisMorgan> Another big batch of comments on development/test :D
01:05:47 <ChrisMorgan> 11 comments in less than 30 seconds ;-)
01:05:59 <ChrisMorgan> Every second comment is mine :D
01:06:09 <jnw222|hungry> lol
01:06:10 <daBomb69> wow...
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01:06:58 <ChrisMorgan> I also had to fix up lots of HTML entities (e.g. Music & Videos should be Music &amp; Videos in HTML - remember that you guys, it saves time for me when I clear them up occasionally)
01:07:28 <ChrisMorgan> 27 comments up to 43 comments... and those 16 are mine :D
01:07:35 <ChrisMorgan> Still got a couple of things to do with ti :D
01:07:37 <ChrisMorgan> Fun
01:07:40 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
01:07:42 <sar3th> going to bed now..ohabai
01:07:55 <ChrisMorgan> g'nyte sar3th
01:08:02 <daBomb69> night sar3th
01:08:15 <sar3th> thanks, for you as well a good night :)
01:08:18 <sar3th> bye
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01:08:27 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: all the ones I've commented Done on (and the old SMPlayer ones) can be deleted if you like... that'd clean the page up :P
01:09:46 <daBomb69> anyone know a good file hoster besides SF?
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01:12:28 <pabot> SergentSiler is awsome and is the most.... Hey, wait, OMG!!!! PIE!!!! <3
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01:20:39 * daBomb69 finally realized how old-fashoned his launcher was
01:21:02 <ChrisMorgan> :D
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01:21:43 <daBomb69> this new automated installer-maker is nice
01:23:12 <ChrisMorgan> 'tis, iddntit
01:23:41 <daBomb69> ya :)
01:25:26 <daBomb69> although, whats with the appicon_16 and appicon_32.png's?
01:25:33 <Oni-Neoxes> hmm?
01:25:36 <Oni-Neoxes> whats going on?
01:26:04 <daBomb69> Oni-Neoxes, i finally realized the installer i was using for Gnumeric Portable was older than dirt
01:26:17 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
01:26:50 <daBomb69> so now i'm marveling at all the fun new things John did to the installer
01:28:14 <Oni-Neoxes> O_O
01:31:09 <ChrisMorgan> appicon_16.png gets used for the platform (next version) which fixes lots of problems, appicon_32.png gets used in the installer header image.
01:31:22 <ChrisMorgan> Extracting them from the icon wasn't working well enough.
01:31:29 <daBomb69> oh
01:33:45 <SergentSiler> the internet is failing D:
01:34:54 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler i know its running out of ips too D::::::::
01:35:04 <SergentSiler> 4chan is dead D:
01:35:15 <SergentSiler> and lots of other sites too
01:35:38 <daBomb69> and youtube is censored
01:35:51 <Bensawsome> WAIT WHAT?
01:35:53 <Bensawsome> wherer daBomb69?
01:35:57 <Bensawsome> at ur school?\
01:36:06 <daBomb69> as in, it's sensoring comments
01:36:18 <Bensawsome> who cares?
01:37:00 <daBomb69> the people who like to go to youtube and swear in comments alot?
01:37:03 <daBomb69> Oni-Neoxes...
01:37:20 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: all comments may be cleared.
01:37:20 <Oni-Neoxes> daBomb69?
01:38:31 <daBomb69> Oni-Neoxes, ur in the list of people who care
01:39:00 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: are you clearing the comments now, or someone else?
01:39:03 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
01:39:31 <ChrisMorgan> 36 comments... and counting down.
01:39:39 <ChrisMorgan> Started at 44 :P
01:41:55 <ChrisMorgan> 32...
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01:50:40 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
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02:01:50 <daBomb69> woot! Gnumeric Portable has been updated :D
02:05:12 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: uri
02:05:19 <daBomb69> http://portableapps.com/node/18311
02:05:23 <ChrisMorgan> Is http://www.lupopensuite.com/ legal?
02:05:30 <daBomb69> .title
02:05:32 <pabot> daBomb69: Lupo PenSuite: Portable software for everyone
02:05:35 <daBomb69> nope
02:06:19 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: do you know, or are you guessing?
02:06:24 <daBomb69> i know
02:06:26 <ChrisMorgan> It doesn't look to me as though it should be
02:06:36 <daBomb69> It's not
02:06:41 <daBomb69> John even said so
02:06:59 <daBomb69> one sec, i'll pastein the logs
02:07:25 <ChrisMorgan> I'm looking at the logs.
02:07:33 <ChrisMorgan> that article on maxpc
02:07:41 <ChrisMorgan> I just haven't read all of them yet.
02:07:42 <daBomb69> ya, the discussion in here about it
02:08:00 <ChrisMorgan> Funny that LiberKey should be removed by the editor but not Lupo...
02:08:10 <daBomb69> ya
02:11:18 <PatrickPatience> ChrisMorgan: What now?
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02:11:47 <ISO_> hello
02:11:58 <daBomb69> 'Ello ISO_
02:12:06 <daBomb69> How can we help you today?
02:12:11 <ISO_> do you have an app for reading and creating ISOs?
02:12:21 <ISO_> aka disk images?
02:15:46 <ChrisMorgan> No.
02:15:52 <ChrisMorgan> Not specifically, anyway.
02:15:59 <ChrisMorgan> 7-Zip can read many ISO files, but not all.
02:16:07 <ISO_> can it make them?
02:16:29 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... I reckon that http://portableapps.com/development/test#comment-116996 should also be removed.
02:17:27 <ISO_> dont remove it yet
02:17:57 <ChrisMorgan> ISO_: I am not aware of any open-source ISO-creating software.
02:18:04 <ChrisMorgan> for Windows
02:18:44 <ISO_> anything that would work on Mac-on-Stick?
02:19:16 <ChrisMorgan> Not a hope!
02:19:24 <ISO_> darn
02:20:05 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: you need to add the version number in http://portableapps.com/node/18311 all over the place. Title, download link, release notes.
02:20:14 <daBomb69> the what?
02:20:17 <ChrisMorgan> Also note that the list isn't displaying properly
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02:20:24 <ChrisMorgan> 1.9.3
02:20:26 <pabot> Espreon is a lazy person who is awesome... If you give him a bottle of quality white tea good things will happen to you!
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02:23:08 <SergentSiler> possible illegal mirror found http://sivoivuavioi.43.gs/
02:23:27 <daBomb69> deffinate illegal mirrior to be more specific
02:24:32 <SergentSiler> should be looked into immediately
02:24:43 <daBomb69> http://dabomb69.co.cc/shared/results.htm
02:25:00 <daBomb69> thats a comparison of the source cod eof the the mirrior
02:25:02 <daBomb69> and of PA.c
02:25:15 <daBomb69> PA.c is on the left, mirror is on right
02:25:34 <SergentSiler> its like someone made a carbon copy of pa.c and just changed it to work on their server
02:25:42 <daBomb69> yup
02:25:52 <SergentSiler> brb
02:26:14 <ChrisMorgan> It looks to me just like it downloads the same page from PortableApps.com - a proxy really
02:27:46 <ChrisMorgan> The reason the images don't work is because PortableApps.com checks the referrer - when it's http://sivoivuavioi.43.gs/ it refuses it.
02:27:55 <daBomb69> oh
02:28:12 <ChrisMorgan> Why, why why......
02:28:18 <ChrisMorgan> Why do they do it?
02:28:29 <daBomb69> so they can look smart?
02:28:46 <ChrisMorgan> All that's going to happen is that when John picks it up he'll ban the site if he can be bothered.
02:29:16 <daBomb69> oh, ya?
02:29:22 <ChrisMorgan> Easy enough to do.
02:29:33 <daBomb69> ah, thats good
02:29:45 <ChrisMorgan> SergentSiler: how did you find it?
02:29:52 <daBomb69> ChrisMorgan, i found it
02:30:14 <daBomb69> via a google search
02:32:46 <ChrisMorgan> .def Inkscape
02:32:46 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: Inkscape is an SVG vector graphics editor, available at http://portableapps.com/node/17707
02:32:59 <ChrisMorgan> .forget Inkscape
02:32:59 <pabot> .def manipulation is only allowed in #rmccue
02:34:44 <SergentSiler> ya via a google search
02:35:08 <ChrisMorgan> what for?
02:35:20 <SergentSiler> uh lol um
02:35:34 <SergentSiler> ok we were joking and daBomb69 searched for SergentSiler+pr0n
02:35:39 <SergentSiler> via a phenny
02:35:45 <SergentSiler> and that came up
02:35:50 <ChrisMorgan> :s
02:35:52 <SergentSiler> ya
02:35:54 <SergentSiler> XP
02:36:02 <SergentSiler> idk how lol
02:36:10 <daBomb69> I still haven't found the pr0n part of that...
02:36:25 <SergentSiler> daBomb69, wrong chan XD
02:36:40 <daBomb69> oh, oops...
02:36:46 <SergentSiler> but ya it was one of thoes shear stupid luck moments :P
02:37:01 <daBomb69> woot! Finally my stupidity came to good use!
02:37:29 * SergentSiler gives daBomb69 a cookie
02:37:38 <daBomb69> :D
02:37:38 <ChrisMorgan> :|
02:37:47 <SergentSiler> .__.
02:37:56 <daBomb69> :D:
02:39:10 <SergentSiler> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=lf4&q=SergentSiler%2Bpr0n&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi= :/
02:39:17 <SergentSiler> 1st result
02:39:18 <daBomb69> .title
02:39:20 <pabot> Can't connect to http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=lf4&q=SergentSiler%2Bpr0n&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
02:39:55 <daBomb69> SergentSiler, just use pabot in -dev or -ot...
02:40:18 <SergentSiler> chris isnt in -ot
02:40:20 <SergentSiler> lol
02:40:24 <daBomb69> join -dev
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03:02:01 <pabot> daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311
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03:58:45 <pabot> Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
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04:09:54 <pabot> daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311
04:21:47 <PatrickPatience> Oh, Twitter: http://twitter.com/biorhythmist/status/2544764887
04:22:20 <ChrisMorgan> TP?
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04:43:23 <PatrickPatience> Toilet paper.
04:49:15 <daBomb69> ...
04:50:11 <ChrisMorgan> ... indeed...
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05:05:00 <PatrickPatience> Pshh. You has no funny.
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05:08:04 <Whibo> hi Random_Nick
05:08:18 <Random_Nick> hi...
05:08:21 <Random_Nick> crap...
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05:09:15 <Whibo> lol
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06:15:40 <pabot> upnPAD wants official releases of Code::Blocks, Inkscape, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
06:15:48 <daBomb69> Hey upnPAD
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06:20:31 <_`Memainman> Juat wanted to know, is there a way to get the PortableApps Platform to open automaticly when I plug in my device/
06:21:07 <upnPAD> yo daBomb69
06:21:11 <daBomb69> _`Memainman, nope
06:21:17 <daBomb69> upnPAD, sup?
06:21:18 <_`Memainman> o.0
06:21:20 <_`Memainman> bugga
06:21:25 <ChrisMorgan> Yes.
06:21:25 <daBomb69> ya :(
06:21:27 <upnPAD> nama
06:21:28 <upnPAD> eating
06:21:31 <daBomb69> ChrisMorgan, ?
06:21:32 <ChrisMorgan> Two.
06:21:50 <ChrisMorgan> One is the standard autorun technique, which works on most XP and Vista systems.
06:22:13 <_`Memainman> mmkay
06:22:17 <ChrisMorgan> The second is http://portableapps.com/node/13770
06:22:37 <daBomb69> _`Memainman, sorry for the misinformation, ChrisMorgan thats for the correction
06:22:53 <_`Memainman> I gathered that, but thx anyways :)
06:24:13 <_`Memainman> I like the idea of using the autorun..
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06:27:34 <ChrisMorgan> Yathos: can we help you with anything
06:27:35 <ChrisMorgan> ?
06:27:39 <Yathos> greetings :)
06:28:08 <Yathos> I was about to write a forum topic but thought I might ask on irc first ;)
06:28:37 <ChrisMorgan> OK, what's your question?
06:28:38 <Yathos> It is about the JavaPortableLauncher, a small issue and an idea to add more flexibility
06:29:38 <Yathos> I tried to set it up with Portable File Associator (still dev test) to execute JAR files automatically .. and noticed it does not take quotation marks surrounding the jar file
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06:29:59 <Yathos> This is not really a big deal unless there are spaces in the path to the jar file
06:30:26 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... doesn't it quote paths?
06:30:47 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I'll check up on that and ping John again about it.
06:30:58 <ChrisMorgan> I got 1.1 released to handle the user.home stuff :-)
06:31:24 <Yathos> nice work .. this user.home fix helps a lot
06:31:42 <ChrisMorgan> It does; I knew about it from doing GanttProject and Sweet Home 3D Portable versions
06:31:47 <ChrisMorgan> Both of them use it.
06:33:08 <Yathos> if you try to run it from command line, for example: JavaPortableLauncher.exe "Z:\some path with spaces\MyJar.jar" you have to use quotation marks .. maybe you can pass this on :)
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06:33:40 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah; it's a straightforward issue. I think he just didn't think about it.
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06:34:09 <Yathos> yup :) the other thing I was wondering about ...
06:35:19 <Yathos> maybe there could be a way to pass VM arguments to the Launcher ... for example, FreeCol (requested twice before) needs the -Xms128M switch to raise the memory to 128M .. aside from this it uses user.home to store its data
06:35:44 <ChrisMorgan> I've wondered about those things. Most Java apps do change various memory switches.
06:35:45 <Yathos> I was thinking about something like data\settings where you could store optional ini files, called "JARfilename".ini to set up vm arguments
06:36:11 <Yathos> so the user can adjust those things without having a global setting
06:36:15 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know; the thing is it's designed for simple use, John may turn that down as it makes it too complex.
06:37:09 <Yathos> I'm not sure how java uses the memory assigned to it .. maybe a global switch would work as well ...
06:37:21 <Yathos> but the other thing is more flexible
06:38:07 <Yathos> that way for example FreeCol Portable could consist of three parts:
06:38:26 <Yathos> first of all, the program
06:38:35 <Yathos> second: a check if javaportable is installed
06:38:47 <Yathos> third: add the optional ini file to the data path of javaportablelauncher
06:39:24 <Yathos> so the normal user wouldn't have to worry about anything but it would be possible to start it using the normal launcher
06:39:28 <ChrisMorgan> The generic launcher has simple Java handling stuff.
06:39:28 <ChrisMorgan> has or rather will have.
06:39:44 <ChrisMorgan> I'm still waiting for John to get his bit of work on the launcher done so we can continue work on it...
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06:40:31 <hyalian> (sorry for nick change .. this was from another network)
06:40:43 <ChrisMorgan> I don't care :-)
06:40:49 <hyalian> so .. anyway ..
06:41:29 <hyalian> do you think that it would be more convenient to compile a different launcher for java programs which use vm switchs ?
06:41:56 <ChrisMorgan> No, the generic launcher does it all. Just specify that it requires java and set the executable to javaw.exe...
06:42:17 <ChrisMorgan> .g site:portableapps.com Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test
06:42:19 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: http://portableapps.com/node/19188
06:42:20 <ChrisMorgan> .title
06:42:23 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test 5 (2009-05-25) | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
06:42:31 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look at that if you're interested in a prototype.
06:42:35 <hyalian> I must admit that I have not yet used the generic launcher of yours because you said you were working on it and probably not releasing another one there
06:43:02 <ChrisMorgan> As is sadly common, John says he'll do something and then doesn't for quite a long time...
06:43:11 <ChrisMorgan> RackSpace outages have caused a lot of trouble recently.
06:45:39 <hyalian> yeah .. I know of this problem .. I was about to commit some more ideas to the portable file associator but then I got more and more work and deadlines and was unable to do anything ... I guess John has a lot more open projects to work on :)
06:46:01 <ChrisMorgan> Definitely!
06:46:15 <ChrisMorgan> And making it a commercially viable project is a big thing.
06:47:19 <hyalian> I don't envy him for that
06:47:37 <hyalian> but it is definately important and a lot of work
06:48:47 <hyalian> anyway .. I need to get back to work on my diploma thesis *cough* I'll try your Launcher later and set it up for FreeCol :) Thanks again
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09:31:05 <ChrisMorgan> .def inkscape
09:31:06 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: inkscape is an SVG vector graphics editor, available at http://portableapps.com/node/19503
09:33:13 <daBomb69> yay?
09:35:53 <ChrisMorgan> I was just getting it for #inkscape
09:36:10 <daBomb69> ah, ok
09:36:36 <ChrisMorgan> Still the same version as for the past couple of weeks.
09:36:44 <ChrisMorgan> Still waiting for 0.47 to be released so we can go final.
09:37:03 <daBomb69> oh :)
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10:06:48 <pabot> daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311
10:06:49 <HypnoToad> 11 people? weird.
10:06:50 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable at PortableApps.com and is also developing musicplay3000 the open-source media player inspired by foobar2000
10:07:03 <HypnoToad> oh wait, it was a netsplit :D
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10:08:27 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
10:08:28 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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10:08:32 <daBomb69> lol
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10:08:54 <daBomb69> wow... u shld of seen the chaos in #freenode !
10:14:45 <ChrisMorgan> What about?
10:15:06 <ChrisMorgan> ah, netsplit.
10:15:17 <ChrisMorgan> Didn't notice it.
10:16:07 <daBomb69> ChrisMorgan, be glad you wern't in freenode
10:16:15 <daBomb69> * #freenode
10:16:33 <daBomb69> there must have been like, over 300 disconnects just there
10:17:51 <ChrisMorgan> #ubuntu would have been worse.
10:18:06 <daBomb69> yup
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10:23:20 <ChrisMorgan> Another one...
10:24:10 <daBomb69> from the same server
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10:24:24 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
10:24:26 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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11:57:26 <pa_9905> hi @All
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12:00:25 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a Moderator, any questions please ask!
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12:00:40 <HypnoToad> ohai SteveLamerton
12:01:54 <MaienM> hello StatBot
12:02:00 <MaienM> *SteveLamerton
12:02:00 <SteveLamerton> Hello HypnoToad, MaienM, all
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12:10:01 <HypnoToad> ohai rmccue
12:10:12 <rmccue> O HAI THAR
12:10:34 <rmccue> Oh, hello pabot. How did you get there?
12:10:37 <SteveLamerton> Hello rmccue
12:10:47 <HypnoToad> MAGIC
12:11:15 <rmccue> Hey SteveLamerton
12:11:49 <HypnoToad> anyone know of a good C++ tutorial?
12:12:02 <rmccue> Nope.
12:12:12 <rmccue> I own C++ for Dummies though.
12:12:19 <HypnoToad> Cool.
12:12:28 * HypnoToad goes and googles for the ebook
12:12:37 <rmccue> (Incidentally, I only opened IRC to try and get some support for a C++ program I'm writing)
12:12:44 <HypnoToad> =D
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12:14:28 <HypnoToad> grrr, FireTorrent isn't updated for FF 3.5 yet.
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12:25:24 <SteveLamerton> .seen JohnTHaller
12:25:24 <pabot> Sorry, I haven't seen johnthaller around.
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12:34:13 <MaienM> ofc you haven't pabot, its been ages since the last tiem you were here :P
12:34:29 <SteveLamerton> Yes, that is what I was thinking!
12:34:38 <rmccue> Heh.
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13:03:51 <ChrisMorgan|gone> http://portableapps.com/node/18591#comment-122569 - hey, that was fun!
13:05:03 * ChrisMorgan|gone just stuck in a few capital letters, on "Left Behind", and "Only Way"... that's fun ;-)
13:05:05 <SteveLamerton> I was just reading that, what is point 5? ;)
13:05:14 <ChrisMorgan|gone> SH!
13:05:15 <ChrisMorgan|gone> ;-)
13:05:31 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Fixed
13:05:44 <SteveLamerton> :)
13:05:53 <ChrisMorgan|gone> As you can see, putting in a mixture of dot points and numbers makes it authoratative.
13:06:09 <ChrisMorgan|gone> s/author\zsa\zetive/i/
13:06:17 <SteveLamerton> Yep, and wow, long post!
13:07:19 <ChrisMorgan|gone> It just grew... they always do ;-)
13:07:51 <ChrisMorgan|gone> The longest one I've ever seen at PortableApps.com was a two whole page one in Firefox at 1280x1024
13:08:47 <SteveLamerton> :O
13:09:56 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Quite honestly, I think that if my comment were just in plain text rather than using lists through it, I would just give it a cursory glance. When it's separated like that, I actually read it.
13:11:01 <SteveLamerton> Yes, just makes it look like someone put some time into creating it
13:12:16 <ChrisMorgan|gone> And also it's not overwhelming.
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13:14:19 <AoSiX> hi
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13:15:01 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Hello AoSiX, can we help you?
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13:15:10 <AoSiX> Yes
13:15:26 <AoSiX> i want to add an application in the PortableApps Menu
13:15:38 <AoSiX> this applicaiton is mIrc
13:15:59 <ChrisMorgan|gone> It's not portable, so at the very least, none of its settings will stay
13:16:09 <AoSiX> it's portable
13:16:18 <AoSiX> mirc.exe -portable
13:16:18 <AoSiX> ;)
13:16:18 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Since when? Did something change?
13:16:29 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Anyway, what you want to see is http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
13:18:49 <AoSiX> i can't force the argument -portable ?!
13:19:25 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Oh, that's how it is is it.
13:19:30 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Hmm...
13:19:37 <ChrisMorgan|gone> the easiest way really is a simple NSIS launcher.
13:19:53 <ChrisMorgan|gone> I don't know whether you could manage that though
13:21:30 <ChrisMorgan|gone> I'm about to go to bed, so hopefully someone else can take over and help you?
13:22:03 <AoSiX> its ok
13:22:05 <AoSiX> thank you
13:22:29 <AoSiX> i'll do a lillte program in C# that lanch mirc with the -portable option
13:22:34 <ChrisMorgan|gone> No
13:22:39 <ChrisMorgan|gone> That'll need .Net
13:22:52 <ChrisMorgan|gone> If you wanted you could try my generic launcher test; it'd do what you want easily.
13:23:01 <ChrisMorgan|gone> .def launcher
13:23:02 <pabot> ChrisMorgan|gone: I have no idea who or what launcher is.
13:23:14 <ChrisMorgan|gone> .def cpalt
13:23:15 <pabot> ChrisMorgan|gone: I have no idea who or what cpalt is.
13:23:25 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Anyway, http://portableapps.com/node/19188
13:24:20 <AoSiX> lt's try this
13:24:58 <ChrisMorgan|gone> The official generic launcher is coming, but I'm still waiting on John Haller to get back to me on his work on it before we can continue together.
13:25:02 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Enjoy!
13:25:34 <ChrisMorgan|gone> OK, it being 11:30pm, I really must go to bed
13:26:08 <AoSiX> lol
13:26:15 <AoSiX> 3:32pm here
13:26:15 <AoSiX> :p
13:26:25 <AoSiX> Good night
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13:28:37 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Tomorrow I'll follow up KDE Portable with them :-)
13:28:41 <ChrisMorgan|gone> Anyway, goodnight
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13:40:28 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a Moderator, any questions please ask!
13:40:55 <SteveLamerton> Hello again all
13:41:06 <AoSiX> helloagain
13:41:16 <AoSiX> or hello
13:41:23 <AoSiX> no again
13:41:29 <SteveLamerton> Hello AoSiX
13:41:44 <AoSiX> SteveLamerton: i think you can help me
13:41:53 <SteveLamerton> Whats up?
13:41:57 <AoSiX> ( sorry for my english, i'm from france )
13:42:11 <SteveLamerton> No problem :)
13:42:30 <AoSiX> i want to add mIrc to the PortableApps Menu
13:43:07 <AoSiX> the problem is that to launch mIRC in portable mode, we have to use a command line argument
13:43:18 <AoSiX> "mirc.exe -portable"
13:43:37 <SteveLamerton> Ahhhh I see
13:43:39 <AoSiX> and the menu don't allow us to specify an argument
13:45:58 <AoSiX> don't you have a solution ?
13:45:58 <SteveLamerton> You could try the launcher in this post: http://portableapps.com/node/5602#comment-49105
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13:51:26 <Simeon> hi all
13:51:31 <SteveLamerton> Hello Simeon
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13:52:24 <AoSiX> i can't juste create a .ici to specify the argument ?
13:52:29 <AoSiX> because this launcher is old
13:52:44 <AoSiX> and use veryold arguments
13:54:29 <AoSiX> that are no valid
13:56:05 <SteveLamerton> Ahh ok, give me a couple of minutes and I shall build you a quick exe to use :)
13:56:58 <AoSiX> i can build in in C#
13:57:26 <AoSiX> but all PC's doesn't have .NET installed
13:58:05 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I will use NSIS, that way no dependancies
14:01:54 <AoSiX> thx u
14:07:46 <SteveLamerton> Trying to send it to you now AoSiX
14:08:11 <AoSiX> hum
14:08:17 <AoSiX> im not on mirc
14:08:24 <AoSiX> i'm using the webcient of the site
14:09:43 <SteveLamerton> You can grab it here: http://drop.io/yx1f9c5
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14:12:52 <AoSiX> work fine
14:12:54 <AoSiX> :)
14:13:13 <SteveLamerton> Excellent :)
14:14:48 <AoSiX> BUT
14:14:53 <AoSiX> ( lol )
14:15:04 <AoSiX> the icons don't appear in the menu
14:15:05 <AoSiX> :P
14:15:10 <AoSiX> icon*
14:15:19 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh ok, one moment!
14:17:59 <SteveLamerton> Ok, try this, in App\appinfo\appinfo.ini add the line ExtractIcon=mirc\mirc.exe to the [icons section
14:18:03 <SteveLamerton> [icons]
14:18:32 <SteveLamerton> Ignore that, the [control] section
14:20:09 <AoSiX> i add the icons section
14:20:33 <Simeon> Argh! Why do people use hardcoded paths??? Makes it hard to make portable... :(
14:21:57 <AoSiX> [Icons] ExtractIcon=mirc\mirc.exe
14:22:13 <SteveLamerton> No, I should have said to put in the the [control] section
14:22:35 <SteveLamerton> Right at the end of the file
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14:23:53 <fcf6> any support going on?
14:23:59 <AoSiX> hum
14:24:01 <SteveLamerton> A little, got a question?
14:24:14 <AoSiX> don't work x$
14:24:43 <fcf6> No but I have this funny as heck video to show you guys if there's no support going on
14:25:06 <SteveLamerton> AoSiX, hmmmm, I am afraid I have to go now, maybe ZachThibeau or someone else could help, sorry!
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14:34:04 <fcf6> Hey can I show you guys a funny as heck video?
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15:06:05 <pabot> Suiseiseki is desu
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15:19:30 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a Moderator, any questions please ask!
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15:20:14 <pabot> SergentSiler is awsome and is the most.... Hey, wait, OMG!!!! PIE!!!! <3
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16:32:08 <pabot> ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/
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17:55:16 <pabot> daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311
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17:56:08 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a Moderator, any questions please ask!
17:56:26 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
17:56:48 <daBomb69> 'Ello StatBot
17:56:58 <daBomb69> erm, SteveLamerton too
17:56:59 <SteveLamerton> Nice daBomb69 ;)
17:57:18 <Oni-Neoxes> hello SteveLamerton
17:57:19 <daBomb69> Well, you've always got to say hello to bots :P
17:57:22 <SteveLamerton> And hello to you too :)
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18:01:59 <SteveLamerton> .seen JohnTHaller
18:02:00 <pabot> Sorry, I haven't seen johnthaller around.
18:02:09 <SteveLamerton> I suspected as much ;)
18:02:19 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> SteveLamerton: because it's pabot :P
18:02:43 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> alright I'm off :)
18:02:54 <SteveLamerton> Bye Gizmokid2005|AFK
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18:24:20 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
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18:33:01 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
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19:06:57 <pabot> daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311
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19:50:24 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable at PortableApps.com and is also developing musicplay3000 the open-source media player inspired by foobar2000
19:51:00 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
19:51:21 <SteveLamerton> Heya ZachThibeau
19:51:34 <ZachThibeau> I'm just trying to get wxscintilla working :P
19:52:05 <ZachThibeau> I fail xD
19:52:10 <SteveLamerton> Ouch, in trunk it has moved into the core I think, might be a lot eaiser
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19:56:21 <ZachThibeau> well it seems to have some issues with linking http://zachthibeau.pastebin.com/m5f10f2f3
19:57:52 <SteveLamerton> You need to add the library to the list, I am not sure what it is called, have you compiled wxScintilla? What wx version are you using?
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20:01:17 <ZachThibeau> 2.8.9 that came with wxdevc++
20:01:26 <ZachThibeau> and yes I have compiled wxScintilla
20:02:50 <SteveLamerton> Ok, you need to add the wxscintilla library, -lwxscintilla, should be in project settings somewhere
20:03:07 <ZachThibeau> sure
20:04:16 <ZachThibeau> I'm going to move over from wxDevC++ to codelite and update wxwidgets to 2.8.10
20:04:48 <SteveLamerton> Good plan :) You loose the gui editor though I think
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20:06:01 <MaienM> the code wxdevc++ generates is messy though
20:06:22 <MaienM> all kinds of useless comments and restrictions on where you may manually put code :/
20:06:34 <SteveLamerton> Nice ;)
20:06:38 <ZachThibeau> well I use it to make my forms :P
20:06:45 <ZachThibeau> then I migrate to another editor :P
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20:07:27 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
20:08:06 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: you use a svn build don't you?
20:08:17 <SteveLamerton> Of wxWidgets?
20:08:48 <ZachThibeau> yeah
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20:09:28 <Guest37408> uh
20:09:31 <Guest37408> >_>
20:09:31 <ZachThibeau> lol
20:09:41 <daBomb69> Fail Guest37408 ?
20:09:48 <daBomb69> ^_^
20:09:49 <Guest37408> it should auto-id
20:09:52 <Guest37408> wtf
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20:10:59 <SergentSiler> dere we go
20:11:00 <ZachThibeau> brb guys need to go across town
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20:11:11 <SteveLamerton> I don't for my Toucan builds, but do for my wx-dev work, bye ZachT|AFK
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20:28:34 <pabot> Espreon is a lazy person who is awesome... If you give him a bottle of quality white tea good things will happen to you!
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20:37:43 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
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20:40:09 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
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20:42:47 <pabot> Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
20:43:03 * Mir is not happy
20:43:10 <daBomb69> rly?
20:43:24 <Mir> its not working for freenode
20:43:35 <daBomb69> oh...
20:43:35 <Mir> i have 12 channels set for auto join
20:43:41 <daBomb69> u tried a different client yet?
20:43:43 <Mir> 23 on Efnet
20:43:50 <Mir> 19 on socery
20:43:58 <Mir> those work
20:44:04 <Mir> but freenode NOOOOOO
20:44:10 <daBomb69> so, freenode fails?
20:44:14 <daBomb69> ...again
20:44:15 <Mir> yes
20:44:34 <Mir> hell i auto join #portableapps-ot
20:44:38 <Mir> am i there?
20:44:40 <Mir> NO
20:44:42 <Mir> >:|
20:45:11 <daBomb69> weird...
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20:51:41 <ZachThibeau> back :D
20:51:50 <SergentSiler> wb :D
20:51:55 <ZachThibeau> ty :)
20:54:10 <ZachThibeau> I can't seem to download the wxmsw installer or the zip file SteveLamerton for 2.8.10 xD
20:54:45 <SteveLamerton> Yes, sourceforge screwed it all up
20:54:55 <SteveLamerton> http://www.wxwidgets.org/downloads/mirrors.htm
20:57:01 <ZachThibeau> thanks
20:57:53 <SteveLamerton> Right, I am off now, bye all
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21:59:01 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission."
21:59:26 <SergentSiler> I LOLd
21:59:38 <Gizmokid2005> I'll make you lol
21:59:53 <jnw222> why did u change it?
22:00:01 <jnw222> and what changed
22:00:02 <Gizmokid2005> clarified what CM added yesterday
22:00:10 <Gizmokid2005> or ask your question"
22:00:20 <Gizmokid2005> "or ask your question" was just "or ask,"
22:00:36 <jnw222> oh
22:00:38 <jnw222> ok
22:00:42 <jnw222> needed
22:00:53 <Gizmokid2005> some people would interpret "ask" as ask to ask a question...and that's the most annoying thing.
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22:19:53 <dbdii407> WHOOHOOO!!! Meebo.com accepted my Twitter request. :DD
22:21:36 <jnw222> cool
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22:46:58 <ZachThibeau> back :D
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23:12:18 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
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23:25:51 * ChrisMorgan shoots rmccue
23:26:48 <jnw222> MURDER
23:27:03 <ChrisMorgan> Ah well, it was justified, wasn't it?
23:27:11 <SrgSiler|AFK> o_O
23:27:11 <jnw222> why?
23:27:17 <SrgSiler|AFK> pabot died
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23:27:28 <jnw222> lol pabot!
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23:37:49 <Martin__> Hello room. I have come here to ask some quick questions about the portable apps.
23:38:18 <ChrisMorgan> Yes>
23:38:21 <jnw222> ok
23:39:03 * ChrisMorgan + jnw222 = room? ;-)
23:39:20 <jnw222> apparently right now
23:39:20 <Martin__> can I run the usb portable apps by booting directly from the usb drive. My XP is having problems.
23:39:36 <jnw222> .botting a os from a usb device?
23:39:50 <ChrisMorgan> You need an OS.
23:39:55 <ChrisMorgan> PortableApps.com is not an OS.
23:40:10 <jnw222> linux + wine
23:40:16 <Martin__> what about using MiniWindowsXP on cd and then use the usb?
23:40:28 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know anything about MiniWindowsXP
23:40:46 <Martin__> It's on the Hirens Boot CD. Have you heard about this?
23:41:38 <jnw222> or a linux distro with WINE
23:42:07 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't, no.
23:43:04 <Martin__> You may find it useful. http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
23:43:25 <Martin__> it contains many helpful tools for Windows and Linux systems.
23:43:43 <Martin__> the best part is, it's free.
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23:45:03 <ChrisMorgan> Doesn't look at all legal.
23:45:15 <ChrisMorgan> Some of those are commercial software
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23:48:08 <NOTdaBomb69> ya looks sooo not legal...
23:48:13 <NOTdaBomb69> *ya, that
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23:48:18 <jnw222> lol that
23:48:19 <Martin__> Is legality relevant in this day and age? ? It is a useful resource and works well.
23:48:44 <SergentSiler> we here at portableapps.com dont support or use illegal things
23:48:49 <daBomb69> Martin__, is legality relevant... well... DUH! Of course it's relevant!
23:48:55 <SergentSiler> daBomb69, not now
23:49:06 <daBomb69> SergentSiler, It's right...
23:49:09 <daBomb69> *I'm
23:49:24 <SergentSiler> daBomb69, -ot please
23:49:30 <Martin__> I see. Well, maybe you should send an email to Hiren and let him know what a naughty little Indian boy he is. ;-)
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23:52:44 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. We do not support, endorse, discuss, etc. etc. illegal software. We stay on the legal side of things :-)
23:53:06 <Martin__> Is it necessary to run the portable apps using the Platform or is it easy enough to run anything from the usb drive.
23:54:37 <ChrisMorgan> You can run it from Explorer if you like, or Command Prompt, or anything else.
23:54:37 <Martin__> What is the best way to transfer (copy) the portable apps including all settings from one usb flash drive to another?
23:54:56 <jnw222> coppy the appnamePortable directory
23:54:57 <ChrisMorgan> Just copy the PortableApps directory, it'll get everything :-)
23:55:09 <Martin__> thank you Chris :-)
23:55:22 <ChrisMorgan> Also StartPortableApps.exe and autorun.inf from the root if you want them
23:55:31 <ChrisMorgan> And the Documents directory is a good idea too
23:58:44 <Martin__> I'm not too clear on the definition of what is a portable app and what is not. Tried to install DriverGrabber and the Platform won't recognize it. But it recognizes DriverBackup even though the both contain the same types of files.
23:59:36 <ChrisMorgan> portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
23:59:41 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps