IRC Log from 2009-07-14

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01:16:46 <excid3> Anyone good with web dev?
01:22:41 <upnPAD> depends, what dya need help with
01:23:14 <excid3> Dynamically populating a combo box based on a previously selected combo box item
01:23:20 <excid3> I'm assuming its just javascript
01:23:33 <upnPAD> yeah would be
01:23:46 <excid3> Thanks
01:24:19 <upnPAD> wait was that all?
01:25:18 <excid3> Know of any examples?
01:25:32 <upnPAD> yeah i found one just waiting for it to load
01:25:37 <upnPAD> my comp is sloww ><
01:25:59 <excid3> lol
01:26:06 <excid3> I'm on dialup if that makes you feel any better :P
01:26:51 <upnPAD> ah damn ;/ capped or are you normally on dialup?
01:28:32 <upnPAD> excid3, http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/Q_21571262.html
01:28:35 <upnPAD> er
01:28:43 <upnPAD> you might need to go to that page from google so you can view the answers
01:28:43 <excid3> lol experts exchange...
01:28:56 <upnPAD> http://www.google.com.au/search?q=populate+combo+box+dynamically+from+previous+combobox&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
01:29:06 <upnPAD> it's the 8th result down in that google search
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01:29:38 <excid3> thanks upnPAD
01:30:57 <upnPAD> np
01:31:05 <upnPAD> ask if you need me to search anything else for you
01:31:11 <upnPAD> i know how annoying dialup speeds are ><
01:34:51 <excid3> haha yeah thanks
01:35:02 <excid3> Also kind of a weird thing to search for. :\
01:35:12 <excid3> I didn't find much on my own searches
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02:06:52 <Gizmokid2005> AppGuy: question about your report
02:07:40 <AppGuy> Songbird?
02:07:45 <Gizmokid2005> yep
02:08:12 <Gizmokid2005> where did you point SB to your music directory?
02:08:17 <Gizmokid2005> what setting?
02:08:59 <AppGuy> right at the beginning, the whole setup wizard that starts at fresh install
02:10:15 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, k. Tracking down now.
02:10:24 <Gizmokid2005> thanks
02:11:08 <Gizmokid2005> the import media section right?
02:11:17 <AppGuy> yep
02:11:26 <Gizmokid2005> K
02:30:41 <Gizmokid2005> AppGuy: did you leave the checkmark to check that directory for changes?
02:30:54 <AppGuy> yes
02:31:02 <Gizmokid2005> k
02:32:46 <AppGuy> got to get off now
02:33:02 <daBomb69> Obai AppGuy
02:33:52 <Gizmokid2005> k, thanks for the report AppGuy
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02:52:45 <Gizmokid2005> AppGuy: if you are still here, did your music still play?
02:53:16 <AppGuy> never actually got that far
02:54:31 <Gizmokid2005> because I get a popup about the watch folder, but everything still works as expected.
02:54:59 <AppGuy> ok guess i will try that
02:55:23 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, let me know what you come up with, as the error looks like it might be a bug in their code, as I did get my music to play still.
02:57:56 <AppGuy> ok cya all later
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02:58:09 <Gizmokid2005> cya
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02:58:10 <Gizmokid2005> and thanks again
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04:29:02 <JohnTHaller> hola
04:34:35 <Whibo> hola
04:35:42 <JohnTHaller> anything fun happen in here today?
04:38:10 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> lol, been looking for you JohnTHaller, you are a wanted man, at least by me...and yeah, I released songbird portable 1.2 :)
04:39:05 <JohnTHaller> cool. as long as it's ironed out with testers and such, we'll release it.
04:39:51 <dragonmage> I'll try to get around to testing it Giz
04:40:13 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> there seems to be a minor bug, but it looks to be actually in their code and not the launcher...on drive change there is a popup about watch folders, but I have to talk to one of their other devs tomorrow, as of right now everything works as it should. I made sure even with this issue that everything runs
04:40:15 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> thanks dragonmage
04:41:00 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and my question JohnTHaller, is how do you manage the %temp% usage with FFP? Was I right in deducting that you use lines 358-371(ish) in the launcher to deal with those issues?
04:41:35 <dragonmage> you wouldn't happen to know offhand if they fixed commandline support or got window messages in, would you?
04:42:14 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> dragonmage: I don't, sorry. I hadn't used either options previously and I'm not sure. You'd have to check their bugs/changelog or ask them. Sorry :(
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04:43:23 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005|AFK: dunno offhand which lines, it is in there somewhere, though
04:43:28 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: this is the reason offhand: http://portableapps.com/node/19271#comment-122884
04:43:35 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> s/offhand/I ask.
04:43:41 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> that's what I get for reading and typing at the same time.
04:43:58 <dragonmage> ok, just wondering. I've been working on a Rainmeter config for controlling songbird, but it requires some songbird addons to be installed currently
04:44:46 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> though, I don't know if the issue is really solvable in the launcher itself because RSSOwl uses IE's engine for internal rendering, hence it's temp folders...
04:46:43 <JohnTHaller> ouch. yeah, most anything that uses IE isn't really portable due to IE cookies, temp files, etc
04:47:30 <JohnTHaller> alright sleep awaits
04:47:31 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> exactly...I've put a note into the devs asking if there is some java switch built-in that can change this, or if I can somehow manipulate it to work, and/or if I can change the rendering engine to use FFP.
04:47:37 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> thanks for the info JohnTHaller :)
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06:40:54 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
06:41:22 <ChrisMorgan> Heh... my suggestion to reword NSIS's description was adopted quickly :P
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06:55:20 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad is currenALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD
06:55:44 * ChrisMorgan sticks out his tongue at HypnoToad: prrr
06:56:03 <ChrisMorgan> (You get that last bit as a smiley if you use a decent client like KVIrc ;-)
06:56:14 <HypnoToad> ah, but I made you do that, so my mind control powers are working! =P
06:56:52 <ChrisMorgan> HypnoToad: prrr !
06:57:07 <ChrisMorgan> HypnoToad: please make me kick you ;-)
06:57:33 <HypnoToad> ops= mops
06:57:43 <ChrisMorgan> viz?
06:57:49 <ChrisMorgan> quo?
06:58:12 <ChrisMorgan> Q'est?
06:58:27 <ChrisMorgan> Vas ist das?
06:58:35 <ChrisMorgan> Wot?
06:58:49 <HypnoToad> you artless dizzy-eyed dewberry
06:59:06 * HypnoToad found a shakespearean insult page
06:59:16 <ChrisMorgan> Thou cream puff!
06:59:22 <ChrisMorgan> Poultroon!
06:59:29 <ChrisMorgan> Scurvy knave!
06:59:32 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)!
06:59:44 <HypnoToad> vain swag-bellied pignut!
07:00:19 <ChrisMorgan> Thou... thou... TOAD! ;-)
07:00:56 <HypnoToad> better than a melbournite! *runs*
07:01:06 <ChrisMorgan> You'd better...
07:02:30 * HypnoToad returns to throw a rock at ChrisMorgan, then runs like hell
07:03:10 <ChrisMorgan> ... how exactly does hell run? I thought it just sat placidly 6 feet under [6 feet above where it is]...
07:04:26 <HypnoToad> .g how fast does hell run
07:04:27 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad: http://www.sciforums.com/How-the-hell-can-grizzly-bears-run-so-fast-t-30654.html
07:04:39 <HypnoToad> hmmm
07:04:50 <HypnoToad> google is yet to provide a result
07:05:42 <ChrisMorgan> That reminds me of a certain joke about a pseudo-Christian who met a bear in the woods, which wanted to eat him...
07:05:56 <HypnoToad> has anyone considered checking out consruct?
07:06:00 <ChrisMorgan> Wolfram|Alpha doesn't know what to do with it...
07:06:06 <ChrisMorgan> I might... eventually
07:06:46 <HypnoToad> it looks fairly cool, with the stuff it can make
07:10:15 <HypnoToad> arrrgh
07:10:26 <HypnoToad> mah intarwebz = slow
07:12:51 <ChrisMorgan> Oh come on, anyone going to ask to hear the joke?
07:13:55 <HypnoToad> what joke?
07:14:11 <ChrisMorgan> Read up about 9 lines
07:14:13 <HypnoToad> hey chris, whats the hardest part of snowboarding?
07:14:25 <ChrisMorgan> Finding the snow...
07:14:34 <HypnoToad> telling your parents that you're gay
07:14:46 <ChrisMorgan> :S ... ?
07:15:11 <ChrisMorgan> Please refrain from such things if there going to be like that...
07:16:07 <HypnoToad> perhaps others view on religon is the same as your view on that joke, meaning that they don't want to hear it
07:16:38 <ChrisMorgan> it's really a parody on Christianity...
07:17:39 <HypnoToad> but it still involves religion, right?
07:17:55 <ChrisMorgan> Yes.
07:18:16 <MaienM> ChrisMorgan: sure, I'd like to hear it :)
07:18:29 <ChrisMorgan> Easiest just to link to one version of it... http://www.cleanjoke.com/humor/Atheist-vs-Bear.html
07:20:37 <MaienM> hehe, nice.... :P
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07:31:34 <Reese8273> hello alllllllllll
07:31:56 <ChrisMorgan> Hello Reese8273. Have you come in for support?
07:32:41 <Reese8273> sort of... i'm wondering if filezilla or any of the other ftp solutions support syncing a local folder to an ftp folder, or mounting a drive letter to an ftp server
07:33:07 <Reese8273> ... i want to switch from crimson editor to notepad++, but i can't unless I can edit remote files via ftp and save them with a simple CTRL-S in the editor
07:33:12 <ChrisMorgan> FileZilla doesn't, I'm not aware of any that does.
07:33:19 <Reese8273> (oh and I tried the notepad ftp plugin... doesn't seem to work for me)
07:33:20 <ChrisMorgan> However, Windows does have inbuild mapping to FTP.
07:33:29 <Reese8273> hmm ok :(
07:33:35 <Reese8273> oh maybe i should look into that
07:34:23 <Reese8273> are you aware of any command line utilities that can reliably sync a folder to ftp? ... maybe i could just use notepad++ and just add a macro or something
07:34:36 <ChrisMorgan> No
07:34:56 <Reese8273> doh!
07:35:30 <ChrisMorgan> The best way to try to find things like this (fairly specific) is to Google it :-)
07:35:51 <Reese8273> yeah i've been trying... so far no dice
07:35:54 <ChrisMorgan> (The verb to google was added to the Oxford English Dictionary a few years ago...)
07:36:00 <Reese8273> lol nice
07:37:13 <Reese8273> have you ever mounted a windows drive letter to ftp? i'm wondering if its reliable or if i'll have to deal with partial or corrupted downloads
07:37:34 <ChrisMorgan> No, I don't know of any utility which can do that.
07:37:51 <Reese8273> No i mean using window like you suggested.
07:38:14 <ChrisMorgan> It can't map it as a drive letter.
07:38:19 <Reese8273> Like, have you ever tried using the windows tool you mentioned to mount it. I'm reading up on it right now and it seems easy to do... but the question is... is it buggy or does it work well
07:38:23 <Reese8273> oh hrm ok
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09:24:49 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
09:25:08 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
09:25:45 <SteveLamerton> Heya MaienM
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10:05:58 <write2copy> hi everyone, what was the open source audio player that was based / inspired by foobar2000?
10:06:24 <write2copy> I remember that someone was working on it, I'd love to give support and testing!
10:08:07 <MaienM> thats musicplay3000, http://code.google.com/p/musicplay3000/
10:08:48 <MaienM> development on it has been slow lately though :(
10:09:35 <write2copy> yeah, the page seems a bit deserted...
10:09:58 <MaienM> well we're still working on it
10:10:06 <write2copy> but that's not a barrier, I always wanted an open source foobar2000 and I think with enough effort this can be achieved
10:10:26 <MaienM> ofc it can be ;)
10:10:49 <write2copy> the trick is to get as lightweight as foobar is
10:10:56 <write2copy> with incredible startup times ;)
10:11:08 <write2copy> so where do I sign up?
10:11:10 <MaienM> well for now, the trick is to actually work :P
10:11:15 <write2copy> lol indeed
10:11:48 <MaienM> sign up for... what exactly? updates? developement?
10:17:11 <MaienM> brb
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10:35:45 <write2copy> k
10:36:22 <write2copy> more the development side, I want to be able to help improve the code (I'm not a coder myself but I am a helluva testar)
10:38:33 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: seeing as you produced the makefile, you should be able to tell write2copy how to compile it... and then if you're wise, create a wiki page for it.
10:40:51 <MaienM> well, if you are familiar with compiling stuff you can do it yourself, and else I might be able to compile it for you
10:41:12 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: I think I could work it out without much trouble, but write2copy and most other people might not.
10:41:33 <write2copy> well I haven't worked with code extensively before... (I know TI83 Basic a little ;p)
10:41:39 <MaienM> I actually was talking against write2copy there ChrisMorgan, sorry for the confusion :P
10:41:46 <MaienM> write2copy: are you using windows?
10:41:51 <ChrisMorgan> That won't be of much use here, write2copy :P
10:42:04 <ChrisMorgan> I presume it'd be just as simple as have MinGW and wxWidgets, then make wxWidgets and then musicplay3000?
10:42:14 <MaienM> TI83 Basic coding can be fun btw - but thats offtopic here ;)
10:42:42 <write2copy> yeah indeed, fun times at school :p
10:42:46 * ChrisMorgan uses his CASIO CFX-9850GB Plus Color for programming at school :D
10:42:47 <MaienM> I think I have a precompiled version of the latest SVN version, zach sent it to me :P
10:42:56 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: spoiler :P
10:43:17 <write2copy> but ehm, I'm using winXP 32bit SP3, but thinking to switching to 64bit version
10:43:20 <write2copy> lol
10:43:34 <write2copy> our school was too poor for casio's
10:44:10 <write2copy> instead we wrote all the cheatnotes into the apps ;)
10:44:12 <MaienM> write2copy: try this: http://mmfail.irc.su/dlscript/MusicPlay3000.zip
10:44:21 <ChrisMorgan> write2copy: be aware that XP Pro 64 was never a prime OS choice, too many things don't work on it. The situation is better now, but some apps still won't run on it (while with Vista 64 there are /very/ few apps which won't work)
10:44:46 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: you should also add in duties at http://code.google.com/p/bpbible/people/list as has been done at http://code.google.com/p/bpbible/people/list ... for fun, if nothing else :P
10:45:15 <MaienM> I assume the first link isn't the one you intended? :P
10:45:18 <write2copy> wow, never knew that vista and XP 64 bits were so different in app compatibility...
10:45:23 <MaienM> don't worry, I'll find it ;)
10:45:32 <ChrisMorgan> http://code.google.com/p/musicplay3000/people/list
10:45:33 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry
10:45:49 <ChrisMorgan> I won't bother doing it as a regex replacement, too much escaping of / :P
10:45:57 <MaienM> ChrisMorgan: now that I think of it, I still have to finish a certain translation for a certain app don't I? ;)
10:46:52 <write2copy> wow the interface is... eh... pretty intuitive :P
10:46:55 <ChrisMorgan> Yes please :-)
10:47:35 <MaienM> write2copy: yeah, its pretty raw/unfinished as it is :P
10:48:00 <write2copy> good thing I have been around designerpeople a lot ;p
10:48:14 <write2copy> does btw it only support mp3 at this moment? first thing I tried was to play a .flac file but didn't do a lot
10:48:22 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: does it actually play anything?
10:48:32 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, I see it does...
10:48:44 <ChrisMorgan> But I had to press that triangle thing first... ;-)
10:48:53 <MaienM> according to zach it does, I am on linux and didn't manage to test this version due the absence of WMP ;)
10:49:04 <ChrisMorgan> Depends on WMP!?
10:49:09 <ChrisMorgan> NON-PORTABLE!
10:49:11 <MaienM> atm it does
10:49:16 <ChrisMorgan> ... especially OS-portable...
10:49:20 <MaienM> that will change soon though
10:49:28 <MaienM> atm we are using wxMediaCtrl
10:49:35 <MaienM> so it would work on other OS too
10:49:59 <write2copy> hmm, I think I know what the problem is, it just takes a while to play a file, now I'm trying a .mp3 and it took a few seconds to load the file I guess...
10:50:25 <ChrisMorgan> I think intuitive is not quite the right word... empty might be better.
10:50:26 <MaienM> we will/might be switching to gstreamer soon though
10:50:36 <ChrisMorgan> Having to open the file, and then press play is not intuitive.
10:50:36 <write2copy> hehehe
10:50:51 <ChrisMorgan> Should be able to press play and have that open a file if none is selected.
10:51:09 <ChrisMorgan> I'd just like you to know that "this is a librivox recording" :P
10:51:18 <MaienM> it kinda makes sense you have to open a file before you can play it though :P
10:51:22 <write2copy> indeed, adding a pause button won't hurt either :p
10:51:31 <MaienM> but yeah, it needs a lot of work
10:51:33 <ChrisMorgan> Change |> to ||, that's all
10:51:45 <write2copy> lol
10:51:55 <ChrisMorgan> |> should become || || during playing
10:52:19 <write2copy> indeed, 2 flies in 1 SMASH!
10:52:33 <MaienM> imho we should start with a draft of the interface, but we'll see
10:52:42 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon you should do it in Qt :D
10:52:50 <ChrisMorgan> Mebbe PyQt :D
10:52:56 <write2copy> but why do I keep seeing WMP logo?
10:53:09 <write2copy> that's not independent open source development now is it? :P
10:53:28 <ChrisMorgan> write2copy: I don't see the WMP logo anywhere?
10:53:31 <MaienM> thats because atm we use wxmediactrl :P
10:53:38 <ChrisMorgan> I'm playing around with Qt and PyQt
10:54:09 <write2copy> i see...
10:54:11 <MaienM> why should we use Qt instead of wxWidgets ChrisMorgan?
10:54:22 <ChrisMorgan> Fun, and powerful too. Much simpler than wx for simple things. Its defaults are much better, and as for layouts, wx didn't even have time to blink before Qt was several miles ahead...
10:54:42 <ChrisMorgan> wxAUI doesn't even compare to the inbuild QtGui stuff.
10:55:06 <write2copy> I hve no clue about programing languages, but I think it's best to concentrate on a language that gets you a fast, light, compatible and extensible app
10:55:11 <ChrisMorgan> Sure, for most things you can work around it without much trouble, but it's trouble, whereas with Qt it's just there.
10:55:22 <MaienM> since Qt is GPL compatible now, so I guess I might give it a try ;)
10:55:32 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not serious about you switching, but from what I've seen so far, it seems a good choice.
10:56:07 <ChrisMorgan> My brother Ben is an anti-Qt person, but that's what happens when you write BPBible with wxPython and then switch to XULRunner+PyXPCOM.
10:56:20 <write2copy> is it not possible to copy&paste some of the code from foobar btw?
10:56:30 <ChrisMorgan> write2copy: closed source
10:56:40 <write2copy> ah yeah forgot :-(
10:57:19 <write2copy> (which is weird because that's also the reason why having interest in musicplay3000)
10:58:36 <write2copy> http://docs.wxwidgets.org/2.6/wx_wxmediactrl.html <--- are you going to be using this in the standard development schedule?
11:00:12 * ChrisMorgan opens a PNG image... presses play, and hey presto, there it is...
11:00:20 <MaienM> we're not sure about that yet
11:01:25 <ChrisMorgan> MusicPlay doesn't seem quite right if it's an image viewer as well :P
11:01:34 * ChrisMorgan wins :-)
11:25:18 <write2copy> lol .gif images let the WMP logo disappear, hail GIF!
11:25:32 <ChrisMorgan> Any images should.
11:26:25 <write2copy> hah lol indeed, when I open them I just get a black screen, but after I press 'stop' I get the actual pic :p
11:26:33 <write2copy> logic ftw ;p
11:33:10 <write2copy> brb I'm baking a logical egg
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11:35:04 <ChrisMorgan> Make sure you don't bake it at too high "power" ;-)
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13:33:18 <Gizmokid2005> gah
13:33:24 <Gizmokid2005> bugs.
13:35:41 <ChrisMorgan|Away> yah
13:35:56 <Gizmokid2005> some reg entries to mess with, as well as some folders.
13:36:31 <Gizmokid2005> which variable can use in my launcher to tackle: C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Temp\
13:36:56 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Just before going to sleep... that's TEMP.
13:37:14 <Gizmokid2005> Hmm, that's what I figured. thanks
13:37:15 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Create a subdirectory ${NAME}Temp and set TEMP to it.
13:37:30 <Gizmokid2005> ..not quite sure I follow
13:37:36 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Or if it's singleinstance, you can use the GetTempDir NSIS thingy
13:37:42 <ChrisMorgan|Away> takea look at that recent thread on temp stuff
13:37:45 <ChrisMorgan|Away> g'nite
13:37:48 <Gizmokid2005> k nite
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13:51:46 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
13:52:35 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton :)
13:53:00 <SteveLamerton> Heya Gizmokid2005
13:56:16 <Gizmokid2005> I get to rewrite the launcher for songbird...
13:56:19 <Gizmokid2005> woohoo lol
14:06:00 <SteveLamerton> Why is that?
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14:07:01 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
14:09:13 <Gizmokid2005> well, with the bugs I have: http://portableapps.com/node/19953#comment-122970 and replacing/updating the nsis scripts, it's going to need it.
14:09:20 <Gizmokid2005> there might be some deprecated stuff in the launcher anyways.
14:10:24 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh ok, thats the problem with inheriting a launcher I guess
14:10:58 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, but I thank rmccue for his work on it, it least gives me an idea of what needs to be incorporated into this launcher, and maybe stuff I can remove.
14:12:03 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Whibo
14:12:10 <SteveLamerton> Yep, it has good and bad sides, like everything :)
14:12:13 <Whibo> hi Oni-Neoxes
14:12:56 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, it does. Know of a good gui interface I can use for NSIS, besides NP++ or the like? Lol
14:12:58 <Oni-Neoxes> .def whibo
14:12:58 <GizmoBot> whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
14:12:59 <Gizmokid2005> hello Oni-Neoxes, Whibo
14:13:08 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Gizmokid2005
14:15:22 <Whibo> so 2 from tha scene here Oni-Neoxes :P
14:15:28 <Oni-Neoxes> yup :D
14:15:39 <Oni-Neoxes> I still hate my LU60 for having a Boot2 D:,
14:16:25 <Whibo> :P
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14:16:42 <Whibo> i had a perfect boot2v2
14:16:51 <Whibo> :)
14:16:55 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello pa_4363, How can we help you today
14:18:17 <pa_4363> Hi, I want to know if I can install the siute into a USB Flash Drive with U3 system (but the U3 system dosn't work anamore)?
14:18:48 <Oni-Neoxes> wait. the U3 doesn't work to begin with
14:19:26 <pa_4363> No. My drive: Sandisk Cruzer Micro 16 GB ...
14:19:53 <pa_4363> It dosn't work as a U3 device.
14:20:36 <Oni-Neoxes> so you just want the suit on your drive and remove U3?
14:21:05 <Whibo> Anyone knows ios,wad, or boot2? :P
14:21:24 <Oni-Neoxes> lol. not right now whibo, support :p
14:21:39 <pa_4363> My Os doesn't recognize my Flashdrive as an U3 device, and I can't unistall the system ...
14:22:26 <pa_4363> How can I unstall the system?
14:22:35 <Oni-Neoxes> Ok
14:22:38 <Oni-Neoxes> I get it now
14:23:36 <pa_4363> I´ve been searching on the web about the solutions for this problem, but no succes 'till now.
14:25:24 <Oni-Neoxes> pa_4363, go to this link: http://www.u3.com/support/default.aspx#CQ3
14:25:46 <Oni-Neoxes> and click "remove U3"
14:26:18 <Oni-Neoxes> That should be the removal tool for U3
14:27:43 <pa_4363> Meanwhile, after unistalling the system (if the OS recofnize it as U3), can I install the Portable Apps Suite on a non U3 device?
14:28:11 <Oni-Neoxes> yea
14:28:34 <Oni-Neoxes> portableapps suite can be installed to any removable device
14:31:09 <pa_4363> As far as I understand the application: I just need to execute the file, is it right?
14:32:06 <Oni-Neoxes> the U3 removal tool?
14:32:28 <pa_4363> Right now I am trying to uninstall the U3 system, but ...
14:33:13 <pa_4363> the software says that I need to insert a U3 device (it is already inserted ) ...
14:33:44 <Oni-Neoxes> thats odd
14:34:12 <pa_4363> why the device is not recognized as U3, It doesn't have the U3 system installed?
14:35:10 <Oni-Neoxes> try removing all the files from the flash drive and format the flash drive
14:35:17 <Oni-Neoxes> keep anything you want though :p
14:35:33 <Oni-Neoxes> sounds like U3 is has corrupted
14:36:24 <pa_4363> Already done before this chat. THe rest of the history, You are living it now.
14:36:42 <Oni-Neoxes> so you formatted the flash drive?
14:37:37 <Oni-Neoxes> so if thats the case. U3 is already gone
14:37:43 <Oni-Neoxes> just install portableapps onto it
14:37:45 <pa_4363> Yes. first time with Windows XP, the second with Vista.. Both cases the same result: non U3 device ...
14:37:59 <Oni-Neoxes> then there is no U3 on it
14:38:06 <Oni-Neoxes> just install portableapps onto it
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14:38:34 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
14:38:48 <ZachThibeau> howdy guys
14:38:55 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello ZachThibeau
14:39:02 <pa_4363> I´ll procee now with Portable Apps Suite, Can stay online during the process?
14:39:03 <ZachThibeau> Sorry SteveLamerton about yesterday xD I was away before I could respond
14:39:18 <SteveLamerton> No problem ZachThibeau
14:39:21 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4363: yes
14:39:33 <Gizmokid2005> congrats on the release ZachThibeau :)
14:41:18 <Oni-Neoxes> What Release?
14:41:37 <Gizmokid2005> Oni-Neoxes: NSIS Portable
14:41:42 <Oni-Neoxes> Nice
14:41:44 <Gizmokid2005> yep
14:42:20 <ZachThibeau> :D
14:42:24 <Whibo> Hi pabot
14:42:29 <Whibo> :(
14:42:47 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
14:42:54 <Oni-Neoxes> Whibo, ot :p
14:42:56 <Gizmokid2005> Whibo: GizmoBot is taking over for pabot
14:43:20 <Gizmokid2005> at least until rmccue figures out his pabot issues
14:44:45 <Whibo> Hi GizmoBot
14:44:45 <GizmoBot> Hello Whibo!
14:44:50 <Whibo> yeah!
14:51:14 <SteveLamerton> Has anyone seen this before? http://transifex.org/ Looks like it might be a good solution for hosting the Toucan translations
14:51:46 <pa_4363> Oni-Neoxes: Siute already installed. The drive shows folders ans application (StartPortableApps) ...
14:52:39 <Oni-Neoxes> pa_4363, then you run startportableapps.exe
14:52:43 <Oni-Neoxes> then there you go
14:52:58 <pa_4363> I told the installation app to run it but nothing happens. Do I have to restart my system?
14:53:28 <Oni-Neoxes> no. thats extremely odd.
14:55:15 <pa_4363> When I run it a dialogbox says: Only part of a ReadProcessMemory or WriteProcessMemory request eas completed ...
14:55:27 <pa_4363> what does it means?
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14:56:20 <Oni-Neoxes> Never seen that before
14:56:32 <Oni-Neoxes> i would restart the system then. give it a shot.
14:58:40 <pa_4363> Can the other portable apps run without StartPortableApps.exe running?
14:58:48 <Gizmokid2005> yes pa_4363
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15:01:52 <pa_4363> Oni-Neoxes: I`ve tried to run the apps, but they can't run, they send the same message as before ..
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15:02:18 <Oni-Neoxes> You restarted the system?
15:02:31 <pa_4363> Not yet
15:02:43 <Oni-Neoxes> Give that a shot and try to install/run it
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15:03:31 <pa_4363> The antivirus is runnig and dowloading the virus definitons, Why the other dont work?
15:04:16 <Oni-Neoxes> What is the OS?
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15:04:35 <Gizmokid2005> hello pa_3715, what can we do for you?
15:05:21 <pa_4363> Oni-Neoxes: Windows XP Pro w/SP3
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15:06:40 <Oni-Neoxes> Hmm. I'm really lost.
15:07:11 <pa_4363> Oni-Neoxes: Wellcome to the club!!!!
15:07:13 <Oni-Neoxes> but restarting might solve it
15:07:19 <Oni-Neoxes> I'm not really sure
15:08:11 <pa_4363> I`ll try after the update of the antivirus.
15:08:18 <Oni-Neoxes> ok
15:08:31 <pa_4363> How can contact you for further instructions?
15:08:42 <Bensawsome> come back here ;)
15:09:12 <pa_4363> Thanks, I`ll see you then!
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15:10:34 <pa_4363> Logging out!
15:10:42 <Oni-Neoxes> k
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15:12:44 <Oni-Neoxes> hello pa_0371 , how can help you today
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15:18:32 <pa_3321> C:>7zr a -sfx7zs.sfx fern.exe file.txt 7-Zip (A) 4.65 Copyright (c) 1999-2009 Igor Pavlov 2009-02-03 Scanning Updating archive fern.exe System error: Nicht implementiert What is wrong?
15:19:18 <Oni-Neoxes> ummm.... I'm not really sure
15:19:21 <Bensawsome> what are you trying to do?
15:19:37 <Bensawsome> and what does Nicht implementiert mean in english?\
15:20:23 <Oni-Neoxes> Bensawsome, It's german for "Not implemented"
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15:22:26 <pa_3321> I want in a zipped file fern.exe paste the file file.txt
15:25:24 <pa_3321> in 7-zip.chm is this explained!
15:26:27 <pa_3321> Examples 7z a -sfx a.exe *.txt adds *.txt files to self extracting archive a.exe using the default console SFX module. 7z a -sfx7z.sfx a.exe * adds all files to self extracting archive a.exe with module 7z.sfx using windows version of SFX mudule.
15:26:56 <Bensawsome> did you try doing it with the user interface....
15:27:22 <Bensawsome> actually i have had problems where the command line stuff just doesnt work even though i did it completely correctly
15:27:36 <Bensawsome> one computer it worked and the other it didnt :/
15:28:01 <Bensawsome> unfortunately thats a bug that the developer of 7zip needs to fix. we cant fix it
15:30:08 <pa_3321> Thank you!
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15:56:07 <GizmoBot> Oni-Neoxes is a Hardcore Nintendo Fan
15:56:24 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton, Oni-Neoxes
15:56:31 <SteveLamerton> Hello again MaienM
15:56:58 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello MaienM, SteveLamerton
15:57:05 <SteveLamerton> Hello Oni-Neoxes
15:57:36 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
15:57:41 <SteveLamerton> Heya ZachThibeau
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16:48:35 <rcmaehl> Any support going on?
16:49:46 <rcmaehl> Can someone help me with making an index.php file for my frontpage?
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17:06:07 <pa_3724> Oni-Neoxes: Hi again.
17:06:18 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello pa_3724
17:06:48 <pa_3724> New situation: None of the portable apps work!
17:08:41 <pa_3724> After testing all of them many dissapear! (0 KB)
17:10:26 <Oni-Neoxes> o-o
17:10:33 <Oni-Neoxes> Uber Odd
17:10:42 <SteveLamerton> Sounds to me like the drive is faulty
17:11:30 <rcmaehl> Wow
17:11:43 <pa_3724> Should I replace it for another new?
17:12:22 <pa_3724> Or there is a way to confirm the status of the drive?
17:12:31 <SteveLamerton> Try running check disk
17:12:40 <rcmaehl> And there's other programs
17:13:01 <SteveLamerton> Go to My Computer, right click on the drive, and then in one of the tabs there should be the option to check the disk for errors
17:14:00 <pa_3724> OS says that everithing is OK!!
17:14:23 <SteveLamerton> I really dont know, have you got access to another pc that you could try it on?
17:15:14 <pa_3724> Yes. Same result. Does it means that drive fails?
17:15:42 <SteveLamerton> That is the only thing I can think of I am afraid, especially as you said that U3 didnt work correctly on it either
17:17:06 <pa_3724> One question: after cheking disk the format option just allow me the FAT32 file system format., why, if I have the NTFS on my PC?
17:17:42 <rcmaehl> Um...
17:17:46 <SteveLamerton> I am not sure, it should let you choose NTFS
17:17:58 <rcmaehl> Mine doesn't
17:18:18 <pa_3724> that is what I think
17:18:25 <rcmaehl> It says that the disk is not Ntfs compatible\
17:18:47 <pa_3724> How can make it compatible with it?
17:19:06 <SteveLamerton> Are you using XP?
17:19:19 <pa_3724> Yes, with SP 3.
17:20:33 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh, apparently that is not an option then, http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/format-usb-ntfs/ Be very careful if you do that though, you will have to remember to safely remove the drive evrey time you use it
17:20:47 <pa_3724> by this moment I don't have any printer or cardreadr installed = not know conflicts with letter assingment for the drive.
17:22:46 <SteveLamerton> I really am not sure, my intuition says the drive is probably failing, but I cannot be sure I am afraid
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17:23:49 <rcmaehl> O_O if i format my drive i'll lose all my data
17:24:08 <rcmaehl> I like my data
17:24:37 <rcmaehl> IS therea way to just format the freespace
17:24:40 <rcmaehl> ?
17:24:41 <OliverK> no
17:24:46 <OliverK> never that easy
17:24:59 <OliverK> Vista has a command line tool to convert to NFTS, but I've never used it
17:25:20 <OliverK> you might try GParted, that will also nuke the drive (possibly)
17:25:22 <SteveLamerton> Can you take over OliverK? I have to go now
17:25:32 <OliverK> i'll be here for a little bit
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17:25:53 <OliverK> pa_3724_
17:26:12 <pa_3724_> Excuse me, bad clicking!!
17:26:19 <OliverK> no worries
17:26:48 <OliverK> you can try /nickserv ghost pa_3724 but I'm not sure if it will work
17:26:48 <SteveLamerton> Thanks OliverK
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17:26:58 <OliverK> or just wait :D
17:27:16 <OliverK> have you tried the check disk utility?
17:27:30 <pa_3724_> +OlierK: please reapeat
17:28:17 <OliverK> there is a check disk utilty that you can use to verify the drives
17:28:43 <pa_3724_> +OliverK: where can Ifind it?
17:28:51 <OliverK> if you right click on the drive select properties
17:28:57 <OliverK> then select the tools tab
17:29:03 <OliverK> and select error checking
17:30:41 <pa_3724_> Can't find it!
17:31:17 <OliverK> are you using win xp?
17:31:38 <pa_3724_> Excuse me again, mus be blind!
17:32:00 <pa_3724_> It says everything is Ok.
17:32:13 <OliverK> that's okay
17:32:22 <OliverK> what brand drive is it?
17:33:00 <pa_3724_> Sandisk Cruzer micro 16 GB.
17:33:00 <OliverK> and what happens if you download the installer to the desktop of the computer?
17:33:16 <OliverK> so, its good quality (we hope :D)
17:33:51 <pa_3724_> The installer doesn't recognize the drive as U3.
17:34:24 <OliverK> the installer will not
17:34:42 <OliverK> the installer would serch for X:\PortableApps to install things to
17:35:08 <OliverK> if you go to the u3 website, you will find installers that will recognnize the u3
17:35:44 <pa_3724_> Neither this installer recognize the drive as U3.
17:38:02 <OliverK> installers from portableapps.com will not recognize the drive as a u3, becuase we don't use the u3 format
17:38:26 <OliverK> you can't install to the u3 emulated cd drive, becuase it is read only and cannot be modified
17:39:19 <pa_3724_> Another fact is that I can't see this read only partition of the flashdrive!
17:41:21 <OliverK> does it load two drives, or one?
17:41:25 <OliverK> when you insert it?
17:42:36 <pa_3724_> Yes, just one. I've tried throug the management of harddisk, but no succes!
17:43:40 <OliverK> then u3 has been removed
17:43:58 <OliverK> you may be able to reinstall it, if you look through u3
17:44:03 <OliverK> the u3 website*
17:45:12 <pa_3724_> I downloaded it and the software dosn't recognize the drive as U3, seems like the device is not U3 ready ...
17:45:28 <OliverK> that is possible
17:46:06 <OliverK> though that surprises me
17:46:22 <pa_3724_> it has just one partition. Is there any command line option o line parameter to give the software to install the U3 system.
17:47:07 <OliverK> portableapps will not install the the u3 system. If you make more partitions, windows will not recognize it
17:48:33 <pa_3724_> I refer to the U3 installation application
17:48:39 <OliverK> they can coexist on the drive, but that are not cross compatable
17:48:46 <OliverK> i'm sorry
17:48:56 <OliverK> i know nothing about u3
17:49:04 <OliverK> i have used it in years
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17:49:17 <OliverK> i need to leave now, i'm sorry I can't be more of a help to you
17:49:26 <pa_3724_> Thanks!
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17:59:40 <troubleuser> lol
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19:10:34 <JohnTHaller> hwy all
19:10:46 <daBomb69> 'ello JohnTHaller
19:10:49 <Oni-Neoxes> hello JohnTHaller
19:10:54 <rcmaehl> wb JTH
19:11:28 <JohnTHaller> how goes it in here today?
19:12:09 <daBomb69> it's good
19:12:45 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller: i had a question, is PA.c ever going to make the XAMPP installer more like the normal installers?
19:12:46 <JohnTHaller> anybody seen oliverk lately? need to get pnotes updated
19:12:59 <daBomb69> .seen oliverk
19:12:59 <GizmoBot> daBomb69: I last saw oliverk at 2009-07-14 17:55:36 UTC on #portableapps
19:13:03 <JohnTHaller> daBomb69: probably not. upgrades aren't supported
19:13:17 <JohnTHaller> and data is all over the place
19:13:23 <daBomb69> oh, ok
19:14:53 <JohnTHaller> i'll probably just package the current pnotes. we need it asap for a usb load and it's been out for over a month.
19:15:14 <daBomb69> oh
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19:29:21 <MaienM> well, that was a bit spammy, but it it worked :/
19:29:44 <MaienM> sorry for the spam I generated with that guys :(
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21:25:28 <pa_4518> I just updated from Firefox 3.0 to 3.5 (portable) but Firefox crashes before starting up. I have closed my thumb drive, reopened it...shut down my computer and restarted it etc.
21:26:39 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4518: go into X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\Data\ and rename profile to profile_old and restart firefox
21:26:42 <Gizmokid2005> see if it launches still
21:26:45 <Gizmokid2005> *crashes
21:26:52 <Gizmokid2005> it /should/ launch as expected.
21:27:33 <pa_4518> I have tried several times. No luck. I could uninstal it but hate to lose all my bookmarks...
21:27:54 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4518: reinstalling doesn't touch your profile
21:28:11 <Gizmokid2005> it sounds like the issue is with the profile maybe
21:29:05 <pa_4518> I will try to reinstall and se what happens.
21:29:11 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4518: if you close firefox portable, and go to: X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\Data then rename profile
21:29:20 <Gizmokid2005> to say, OLD_profile
21:29:23 <Gizmokid2005> then start up firefox
21:29:26 <Gizmokid2005> it should launch.
21:29:38 <pa_4518> OK . I'll try that.
21:30:04 <Gizmokid2005> if it works, you have something corrupt in your profile
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21:41:19 <GizmoBot> OliverK was fragged, forgive his mind be scattered . . .
21:41:19 <GizmoBot> OliverK was fragged, forgive his mind be scattered . . .
21:44:38 <daBomb69> hey OliverK
21:48:02 <OliverK> hey daBomb69
21:48:20 <daBomb69> how are you?
21:49:46 <OliverK> i'm okay. I'm dealing with high lag (sucky connection :() so thats why it takes forever to answer
21:50:13 <daBomb69> oh
21:53:09 <OliverK> do you read hacka day?
21:53:28 <daBomb69> nope :(
21:55:17 <OliverK> http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/wtf-o-meter/
21:56:34 <daBomb69> lol
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22:11:59 <Gizmokid2005> AppGuy: lol
22:12:01 <Gizmokid2005> KVIrc 4
22:12:05 <Gizmokid2005> svn 3236
22:12:38 <AppGuy> wha?
22:12:45 <Gizmokid2005> [18:06:21] CTCP VERSION request from AppGuy [n=AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy] (VERSION), ignored
22:12:52 <Gizmokid2005> just giving you my version lol
22:13:15 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005: whats the command for version in KVirc?
22:13:28 <AppGuy> why, i didnt do that
22:13:40 <Gizmokid2005> AppGuy: it came from you...must've been automatic from your client
22:13:59 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: /ctcp <nick> version, or you can right click on their name in the nick list on the right and go to CTCP and select what you want
22:14:06 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005: oh, ok
22:14:13 <Gizmokid2005> yep
22:14:19 <Gizmokid2005> MOST things you can do via gui in kvirc
22:14:22 <AppGuy> oh, maybe since i add you to my friends list. :P
22:14:24 <daBomb69> ah
22:14:35 <daBomb69> Miranda haz a friends list?
22:14:48 <AppGuy> somewhat
22:14:57 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005: how do you get KVIrc to ignore CTCP reguests?
22:15:10 <daBomb69> requests too... :P
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22:15:57 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: go to Settings > COnfigure KVIrc > IRC > Protection > Flood Protection
22:16:12 <Gizmokid2005> all kinds of good things you can do :)
22:16:32 <daBomb69> ooh! cool!
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22:17:09 * daBomb69 doesn't know what have those boxes are! :P
22:17:18 <Gizmokid2005> s/have/half
22:17:54 <daBomb69> ya... :P
22:19:02 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005: isn't it rather obvious I'm usingKVIrc?
22:19:03 <daBomb69> :P
22:19:07 <Gizmokid2005> yep.
22:21:27 <OliverK> hey, is 3 mbs any good?
22:21:55 <Gizmokid2005> huh?
22:23:02 <OliverK> internet service
22:23:06 <Gizmokid2005> ahh
22:23:06 <Gizmokid2005> yes
22:23:14 <Gizmokid2005> 1.5M is standard DSL service
22:23:15 <OliverK> verizon has this package deal, and I'm sure we don;t want the 1 mbs
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22:23:22 <Gizmokid2005> 3-5M is standard cable service
22:23:27 <OliverK> nice
22:23:28 <Gizmokid2005> I have the 16M cable service
22:23:31 <Gizmokid2005> trust me, you don't want the 1M
22:23:38 <Gizmokid2005> 3M is the better deal
22:23:46 <Gizmokid2005> typically has twice the upload of the 1M
22:23:49 <OliverK> that's what I thought
22:23:57 <Gizmokid2005> yep
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22:24:46 <OliverK> i figured (roughly) its twice the speed of dial up
22:24:48 <OliverK> 56k
22:24:54 <Gizmokid2005> what is?
22:25:51 <OliverK> the 1 mbs
22:25:54 <Gizmokid2005> oh no
22:26:03 <Gizmokid2005> dialup = 56k, 1M = 1024k
22:26:09 <Gizmokid2005> so ~20x faster
22:28:02 <OliverK> okay, thanks
22:28:11 <Gizmokid2005> yw
22:29:50 <OliverK> laters guys
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22:44:00 <AppGuy> peace out
22:44:06 <Gizmokid2005> see ya AppGuy
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23:59:39 <Zarkin_Frood> Anyone active in here?
23:59:45 <daBomb69> yup
23:59:47 <daBomb69> sorta
23:59:50 <Zarkin_Frood> lol