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00:05:31 <GizmoBot> daBomb69 is SPARTAAAAAAAAA!!!!
00:05:32 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
00:06:18 <WastePotato> o/
00:07:20 <Chriz> can i make portable steam?
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00:50:11 <pa_5956> help
00:50:29 <daBomb69> pa_5956, what do you need hlep with?
00:51:03 <pa_5956> have an 8GB USB Stick. Cannot empty recycle bin. Does portable apps provide a way to empty trash?
00:51:50 <daBomb69> no...
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00:52:37 <pa_5956> OK thanks anyway daBomba69
00:52:58 <Bensawsome> pa_5956 what error does it give?
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01:15:28 <daBomb69> Bensawsome, Ping timeout: 180 seconds? :P
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01:49:25 <Gizmokid2005> .seen johnthaller
01:49:26 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: I last saw johnthaller at 2009-07-16 06:54:19 UTC on #portableapps
01:49:32 <Gizmokid2005> so he hasn't been on
01:49:34 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh*
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02:23:44 <AppGuy> Gizmokid2005, how is songbird dev 2?
02:24:01 <Gizmokid2005> it's coming
02:24:13 <Gizmokid2005> I've got to reorganize it right now, things aren't getting saved like they should be.
02:24:15 <Gizmokid2005> and i have to fix that
02:24:42 <AppGuy> wall then dont let me stop you, :P
02:25:31 <Gizmokid2005> lol
02:25:33 <Gizmokid2005> I'm working on it
02:25:39 <Gizmokid2005> this is way more complicated than I want it to be :(
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05:14:13 <Gizmokid2005> why hello PatrickPatience
05:14:38 <PatrickPatience> Yo.
05:14:43 <dabomb69> 'ello PatrickPatience
05:15:18 <Gizmokid2005> how are you PatrickPatience?
05:16:40 <PatrickPatience> Awthum. You?
05:16:59 <Gizmokid2005> oh...I've been better....I have this very strange urge to strangle nsis
05:17:19 <Gizmokid2005> I've never had so many problems with getting something so simple to work, as I am currently.
05:22:56 <Gizmokid2005> mainly getting this stupid launcher to write to the settings.ini file...GAH
05:27:45 <Gizmokid2005> well, I suppose before I kill my computer and nsis, I am going to go to bed...tackle it in the morning with a fresh mind, and maybe some others' help :)
05:27:47 <Gizmokid2005> g'nite
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05:28:47 <JohnTHaller> hola
05:29:09 <dabomb69> howdy JohnTHaller
05:29:21 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> haha, figures.
05:29:26 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> hello JohnTHaller
05:29:42 <JohnTHaller> anybody wanna mess with a pre- pre-release?
05:29:49 <dabomb69> oh!
05:29:52 * dabomb69 raises hand
05:30:29 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I'd love to JohnTHaller, but I need sleep...I'm overly frustrated with WriteINIStr and NSIS atm...hopefully you are around tomorrow so I can pick your brain :) I'd gladly test in the morning.
05:30:49 <JohnTHaller> well, not a big test... think of it as a bonus preview for you regulars
05:30:56 <JohnTHaller> you can see the new stuff in about 30 secs
05:31:04 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> oh, well in that case :) sure
05:34:04 <JohnTHaller> Ok... here is a link... 7z compressed:
05:34:17 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform1.6PR0.5.7z
05:34:31 <JohnTHaller> Just extract it over the contents of your X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com directory
05:35:52 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> extracted
05:35:56 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> OOhhh
05:35:59 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I already like the new fonts :D
05:36:16 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> ooh, and the right-click is very feature-rich :D
05:36:27 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> FAVORITES!!!!
05:36:28 <JohnTHaller> Under Options you'll see some new stuff. Check drive for errors. Themes (with 7 colors).
05:36:41 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> mmmm, green :D
05:36:58 <dabomb69> Gizmokid2005|AFK, you've already DL's extracted ran it and had time to mess agound w/ the feautres!
05:36:59 <dabomb69> :P
05:37:02 <dabomb69> *:O
05:37:07 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> yep :)
05:37:16 <JohnTHaller> it's only 1mb
05:37:17 * Gizmokid2005|AFK has fast computer/interwebs, and I've got a good eye
05:37:20 <dabomb69> well, i only just got done extrackting
05:37:43 <dabomb69> Gizmokid2005|AFK, your internets/comp must rly rock!
05:37:45 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> some very nice themes JohnTHaller :)
05:37:46 <PatrickPatience> Hi hi.
05:37:49 <JohnTHaller> oh you can hide desktop icons, now
05:38:03 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> haha
05:38:06 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> that's AWESOME JohnTHaller :)
05:38:06 <PatrickPatience> And it works, too! :-)
05:38:19 <dabomb69> new icons for the backup stuff
05:38:34 <JohnTHaller> course it does. it's basically all the stuff in 1.6 PR 0 here: http://portableapps.com/node/18859
05:39:12 <dabomb69> wow... it's so beautiful!
05:39:21 <dabomb69> although, what font does it use?
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05:39:31 <JohnTHaller> plus bug fixes. plus all locales for backup/restore. move to top is now favorites. (ditched move to bottom). 7 color themes included. hide desktop icons. check drive for errors. systray tip doesn't change now
05:39:31 <PatrickPatience> Nice, reversed colors on the Command Prompt. :-)
05:39:57 <dabomb69> wow... it rocks!
05:40:02 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> awesome, checkforerrors automatically starts :D
05:40:08 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and apparently, I had an error? lol
05:40:10 <JohnTHaller> I'm gonna finish up the updater and locale loading and post it as a pre-release tomorrow. I may call it 2.0 instead, though.
05:40:19 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Deleting an index entry from index $O of file 25. lol
05:40:28 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> that's a lot of features JohnTHaller
05:40:33 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I wouldn't see any harm in 2.0
05:40:33 <dabomb69> it ciertanly has .4 versions worth of new features!
05:40:50 <PatrickPatience> Categories feels more 2.0 worthy to me, personally.
05:40:57 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I'm with PatrickPatience for sure
05:41:01 <dabomb69> ya...
05:41:16 <JohnTHaller> I'm working on getting patheme loading in there, too. just one entry called Custom at the bottom of the theme list so you can add it.
05:42:04 <dabomb69> nice :)
05:42:30 <JohnTHaller> i may just call it 2.0. categories is wanted and requested by several folks... but I don't think we're required to have it to do a version rev.
05:42:56 <JohnTHaller> I may have x0pher do a partial rebuild of the app list to support it.
05:43:37 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: can you just quickly give me a clue on what I might be doing wrong? I've got SBP's launcher to write to SBPSettings.ini to hold the drive letter, profile dir, etc...but after the initial ini is created, the launcher won't add any ini entry_names if there are new ones, and it apparently isn't updating them...even though I'm using: WriteINIStr "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY\${NAME}Settings.ini"
05:44:30 <JohnTHaller> get code from other launchers. reading and writing INIs is in about a dozen of em and pretty basic stuff. I don't have time or energy to review now. it's 2am here
05:45:24 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: that's what I've been doing, FFP's to be exact...I've spent the majority of the evening trying to figure out what's going on. Just wondered if you had any quick ideas about waht I could be screwing up or what. it's 2am here also :)
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05:45:52 <PatrickPatience> It's 2am here, too!
05:46:00 <PatrickPatience> You'd think we were all in the same time zone or something.
05:46:03 <JohnTHaller> honestly, no. reading and writing INIs is really basic and all the code is there in front of you. if it's not working, it's something more screwed up elsewhere in the launcher and I can NOT look at it now.
05:46:13 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> PatrickPatience: inorite?
05:46:34 <JohnTHaller> I was up coding until 5:30am last night and have been working all day. I'm done with code at the moment.
05:46:35 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: k. Thanks, and I didn't expect you too. if you are around tomorrow I might ask, I'll check with some other devs if they have any ideas...
05:46:39 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> haah
05:46:40 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> amen on that
05:46:59 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I've been working on this launcher for probably 12 hours or so in the last 2 days so far...
05:47:30 <JohnTHaller> i may be able to look tomorrow afternoon. email me the details
05:47:37 <JohnTHaller> i may be more coherent by then
05:47:43 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I have one email in for you at dev_dev@pa.com
05:47:56 <JohnTHaller> that works
05:47:59 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and I will, but not now, I'll do it in the morning. I just want to figure this out so I can get this app going
05:48:11 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I knwo a LOT of people want it, and the current launcher works...but isn't quite perfect.
05:48:28 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> thanks for the help so far JohnTHaller, and I'll be sure to send it in tomorrow. I must go fight with some pillows now though.
05:48:40 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> btw - very VERY nice release of the platform JohnTHaller, I love the new features.
05:48:45 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> g'night JohnTHaller, PatrickPatience, dabomb69
05:48:50 <JohnTHaller> gnight man
05:48:54 <dabomb69> night Gizmokid2005|AFK
05:49:08 <PatrickPatience> Later.
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05:49:12 <JohnTHaller> anything further on the 1.6 preview? anybody really hate the idea of calling it 2.0?
05:49:34 <dabomb69> 2.0 sounds great!
05:51:10 <JohnTHaller> btw - the switch from movetotop to favorite is part of the categories support. you'll be able to use them together.
05:51:36 <dabomb69> oh, cool!
05:53:05 <JohnTHaller> fav color?
05:53:21 <dabomb69> green!
05:53:22 <dabomb69> :)
05:53:28 <JohnTHaller> heh. y?
05:53:44 <dabomb69> i don't know... it just looks cool
05:53:54 <dabomb69> it seems to echo calmness
05:53:57 <JohnTHaller> alright, i'm pulling the DL link for now. I'll post PR1 tomorrow morning-ish.
05:54:12 <JohnTHaller> please don't go sharin it yet :-P
05:54:27 * dabomb69 goes off to label TOP-Secret
05:54:34 <dabomb69> great menu!
05:55:49 <dabomb69> wow... so shiny!
05:56:28 <JohnTHaller> i'm partial to blue
05:56:54 <dabomb69> ya... the blue one looks like sapphire :)
05:58:17 * dabomb69 now has the massive conflict of 'which is cooler, the green or the blue...'
05:58:47 <JohnTHaller> alight... gonna try n sleep. gnight all
05:58:58 <dabomb69> g'night JohnTHaller :)
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06:08:36 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
06:08:50 <dabomb69> 'ello ChrisMorgan
06:10:05 <ChrisMorgan> 'ello dabomb69
06:10:17 <dabomb69> how are you this morning?\
06:10:20 <ChrisMorgan> Lost your capital B, eh?
06:10:27 <dabomb69> hmm... yup :P
06:10:28 <ChrisMorgan> I'm fine this afternoon, thanks :D
06:10:37 <dabomb69> oh, it's afternoon
06:10:43 <dabomb69> well, thats good
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06:32:02 <dabomb69> hello mouse1
06:33:14 <mouse1> hi
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06:39:39 <ChrisMorgan> I think that modern technology won at http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/71451/showdown-harry-potter-vs-modern-technology ... what can PortableApps.com be compared to in Harry Potter?
06:40:01 <dabomb69> the wand
06:40:10 <ChrisMorgan> Should suggest it...
06:40:50 * dabomb69 feels like an ubergeek now, he could think of that in under 5 seconds :(
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06:44:54 <ChrisMorgan> Why does that make you feel like an übergeek?
06:45:32 <dabomb69> well, robally the normal geeks couldn;t think of that and the reason why in under 5 seconds :(
06:45:44 <dabomb69> and, how'd you find a u w/ the umlot?
06:45:50 <ChrisMorgan> Umlaut.
06:45:53 <ChrisMorgan> I just did it.
06:46:31 <ChrisMorgan> KVIrc's scripting broke with "/me plays the übersmartaleck with his umlaut on his u ;-)"...
06:47:11 <dabomb69> heh...
06:47:55 * ChrisMorgan ü
06:48:03 * ChrisMorgan plays the ümlaut
06:48:11 <ChrisMorgan> Interesting... it's working...
06:48:37 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, I know... the ; breaks it.
06:48:37 <dabomb69> you can use the funny u's again?
06:48:44 * ChrisMorgan plays the übersmartaleck with his umlaut on his u ;-)
06:48:53 <dabomb69> lol
06:48:55 <ChrisMorgan> I just needed to escape the ; as \;
06:49:17 <dabomb69> oh
06:50:06 <ChrisMorgan> It's mentioned in the docs, but not as referring to a standard /command.
06:50:17 * ChrisMorgan says one thing
06:50:25 * dabomb69 says another
06:50:33 * ChrisMorgan says one thing
06:50:33 * ChrisMorgan says another
06:50:44 <dabomb69> lol
06:50:45 <ChrisMorgan> That's "/me says one thing\;me says another"
06:51:00 <ChrisMorgan> s/\;/;/
06:51:03 <ChrisMorgan> :/
06:51:08 <dabomb69> u can do that in 1 line?!? :O
06:51:13 <ChrisMorgan> YES!
06:51:20 <dabomb69> OMG!
06:51:22 <dabomb69> awesome!
06:51:46 <ChrisMorgan> So an ordinary statement doesn't need ; escaping, but a slash statement does... and then what comes after it mustn't have a leading /
06:51:59 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. "/me does this;me does that" :D
06:52:26 <dabomb69> oh, cool1
06:52:58 <ChrisMorgan> Incidentally dabomb69,
06:52:59 <ChrisMorgan> .wik u umlaut
06:53:00 <GizmoBot> "'Ü', or 'ü', is a character which represents either a letter from several extended Latin alphabets, or the letter U with umlaut or diaeresis." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_umlaut
06:53:28 <dabomb69> well... thats smart
06:53:36 <ChrisMorgan> In MS Word you can get it as Ctrl+Shift+; (i.e. Ctrl+:) followed by u
06:53:51 <dabomb69> oh, cool!
06:53:59 <ChrisMorgan> In OO.o it doesn't work.
06:54:04 <dabomb69> oh, darn :9
06:54:06 <dabomb69> *:(
06:54:08 <ChrisMorgan> I don't have MS Office on this machine.
06:54:32 * dabomb69 sometimes wishes he didn't have it on his machine
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08:18:36 <asleep> morning MaienM
08:19:21 <MaienM> mornin asleep
08:19:35 * asleep should rly go to sleep
08:19:46 <asleep> but probally won't
08:20:39 <asleep> woo! adobe makes really bad installers!
08:20:51 *** asleep is now known as daBomb69
08:23:13 <daBomb69> so, how are you this morning MaienM ?
08:23:24 <MaienM> pretty good I'd say
08:23:34 <daBomb69> thats good :)
08:24:03 <MaienM> just went to pick up my report at school :D
08:24:21 <daBomb69> cool! :D
08:24:23 <MaienM> so I've now officially made it into the next year :P
08:24:28 <daBomb69> yay :P
08:24:37 <MaienM> which again proves miracles DO indeed exist ;)
08:24:48 <daBomb69> lol
08:24:50 <MaienM> and you?
08:25:07 <daBomb69> I'm good. Almost semi-tired, but good :)
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09:19:48 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is the engaged man - who'll be the married man on 3/20/10!
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10:46:31 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
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11:05:40 <Horusofoz> Hey guys
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12:27:16 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
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13:36:54 <ChrisMorgan> I went to get it before reading all the logs... and lo and behold, it had vanished :-(
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16:05:01 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
16:05:22 <ZachThibeau> howdy all
16:05:39 <Gizmokid2005> hello ZachThibeau
16:06:29 <ZachThibeau> shoot brb need to go to the store xD I forgot to buy a new spindle of blank dvd's xD
16:10:40 * Mir steals the spindle of DVD's
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16:24:07 <ZachThibeau> back
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16:27:32 <renx99> quick question: is there any particular procedure for uninstalling a portable app? I am using the portableapp menu and found a way to install apps but nothing about uninstalling them. Can I just delete the folder for the app? Does the menu automatically know it's gone some how?
16:29:18 <ZachThibeau> just remove the app folder from the PortableApps folder :)
16:29:36 <renx99> that's what i figured, just thought i'd make sure :)
16:29:42 <ZachThibeau> no worries
16:30:08 <ZachThibeau> you should bookmark this page renx99
16:30:08 <ZachThibeau> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite
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16:30:20 <ZachThibeau> it has everything about the menu including removing apps etc :)
16:30:38 <renx99> thanks again. bookmarked.
16:30:52 <hohum_> Is there someone from the development team here? The websites?
16:32:03 <hohum_> i just made an account. it'd be nice to keep track of the applications one likes or uses and "subscribes" to them so that when any changes or new releases occur, one gets an email notification! :)
16:32:17 <Gizmokid2005> hohum_: not possible yet.
16:32:22 <Gizmokid2005> you can subscribe to the RSS feed on the main page
16:32:28 <Gizmokid2005> and get RSS notifications of new releases
16:32:34 <hohum_> but not to individual releases?
16:32:38 <Gizmokid2005> correct.
16:32:49 <hohum_> ok. well, it's just a suggestion. :)
16:32:53 <hohum_> thx for listening! :)
16:33:06 <Gizmokid2005> yw hohum_
16:33:21 <hohum_> thx for the great concept and website!
16:33:40 <hohum_> ciao
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16:34:39 <ZachThibeau> brb guys going to reboot into my ubuntu partition of my laptop :)
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16:36:23 <pa_9397> hello any one there?
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16:36:35 <Gizmokid2005> what can we do for you pa_9397?
16:36:47 <pa_9397> sorry ma name is oar just in case
16:36:51 <pa_9397> omar
16:37:03 <pa_9397> when i try to eject ma pendrive it wont let me
16:37:16 <pa_9397> it says some thing is runing but i got everything closed
16:37:24 <Gizmokid2005> it says it's busy right?
16:37:24 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
16:37:26 <Gizmokid2005> that happens from time to time
16:37:45 <pa_9397> is dat gona like break ma pendrive by the time?
16:37:51 <Gizmokid2005> check your task manager and make sure none of your applications that you used on your flash drive are running, especially something that says <app>portable.exe
16:37:56 <Gizmokid2005> no
16:38:03 <Gizmokid2005> you can always reboot the computer too and remove it that way
16:38:06 <pa_9397> and anoder ting
16:38:11 <pa_9397> you now spanish?
16:38:18 <Gizmokid2005> but if you are certain that you've closed everything, you can just pull the drive out
16:38:19 <Gizmokid2005> no.
16:38:34 <pa_9397> k when i quit buy force eject
16:38:46 <pa_9397> the rar started making like a back up automaticaly
16:38:56 <pa_9397> by not buy *
16:39:18 <Gizmokid2005> what rar?
16:39:24 <pa_9397> the rar
16:39:29 <pa_9397> the rar engine
16:39:39 <pa_9397> it just poped out and started making a back up
16:39:44 <Gizmokid2005> that's probably something on the computer.
16:39:53 <Gizmokid2005> the platform doesn't use rar, it uses 7zip to do any backups
16:40:02 <pa_9397> ahh dats de ting lol
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16:40:08 <GizmoBot> ...
16:40:18 <pa_9397> i dont got 7 zip and i asokiated rar wit 7zip
16:40:25 <Gizmokid2005> pa_9397: not sure what to tell you on that, but I must go now
16:40:27 <pa_9397> so where can i get 7 zip?
16:40:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_9397: it's still something on the computer
16:40:42 <pa_9397> hey
16:40:44 <Gizmokid2005> because the platform will ALWAYS use 7zip to do any backups or anything of the platfomr
16:40:47 <Gizmokid2005> *platform
16:40:48 <pa_9397> where can i get 7zip
16:40:49 <Gizmokid2005> not winrar
16:40:51 <Gizmokid2005> .g 7zip
16:40:51 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: http://www.7-zip.org/
16:40:53 <Gizmokid2005> there
16:41:05 <pa_9397> thx byebye
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17:32:43 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
17:33:35 <OliverK> hey
17:33:54 <SteveLamerton> Heya OliverK
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17:46:32 <OliverK> laters everyone
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17:54:52 <pa_0923> hi
17:55:55 <pa_0923> hi
17:55:58 <SteveLamerton> Hello pa_0923
17:56:15 <pa_0923> i wanted to ask something?
17:56:43 <SteveLamerton> Go ahead :-)
17:57:29 <qwertymodo> only used irc once before, just wondering if this is working
17:57:41 <pa_0923> can i host the program lie firefox to another site or i need to ask the developer first?
17:58:45 <SteveLamerton> Are you planning on modifying it
17:58:46 <SteveLamerton> ?
17:59:20 <pa_0923> no
17:59:34 <pa_0923> just host it
17:59:43 <SteveLamerton> As far as I know that is fine then
18:00:00 <pa_0923> ok thanks
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18:13:47 <qwertymodo> just wondering is this working? is anyone getting this?
18:14:06 <SteveLamerton> I am
18:14:19 <ZachThibeau> nope ;) yeah of course I am :P
18:14:29 <qwertymodo> thanks i'm new to irc
18:14:36 <ZachThibeau> no worries
18:15:01 <qwertymodo> don't really need anything right now just figure it's better to know how to use something BEFORE you need it to work
18:17:22 <qwertymodo> actually zach since you're here, what version of directx does vba-m need? it's not running for me
18:17:33 <ZachThibeau> needs the absolute latest
18:17:49 <qwertymodo> dx11?
18:17:56 <ZachThibeau> no dx9 latest :P
18:17:59 <qwertymodo> ok
18:18:25 <ZachThibeau> which is a downside, you can't redistribute the dx dll files with the app afaik
18:18:53 <qwertymodo> yeah
18:18:54 <ZachThibeau> one of the reasons I was using the sdl binary of vba-m with a home brew frontend for it
18:19:18 <ZachThibeau> both work well but sdl doesn't need directx :P
18:19:33 <qwertymodo> would you suggest the sdl for the portable?
18:20:10 <qwertymodo> i mean if my computer doesn't even run it i would guess many others wouldn't as well
18:22:13 <ZachThibeau> well the sdl would be hard to use atm since it's command line only, work with the mfc for now but just let them know about the needed directx 9
18:23:40 <ZachThibeau> I'll work on a front end for it and let you play with it and see what you would like to do with it.
18:24:03 <ZachThibeau> and best of all ;) I'm a part of the VBA-M team :P
18:24:55 <qwertymodo> ok, when i find the right directx package i'll just add in a check for it and add a notification somehow with a link
18:25:08 <ZachThibeau> h/o I know the link
18:25:15 <qwertymodo> even better :)
18:25:27 <ZachThibeau> http://www.microsoft.com/DOWNLOADS/details.aspx?FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en
18:25:37 <qwertymodo> searching for directx 9.0 doesn't necessarily bring up the most recent release
18:25:40 <ZachThibeau> as a dev of vba-m I know these things ;)
18:25:48 <qwertymodo> yeah you would :)
18:26:07 <ZachThibeau> but yeah vba-m is certainly better atm than the original vba release :P
18:26:18 <ZachThibeau> in fact we are working on a rewrite for it
18:26:32 <qwertymodo> well i will soon be able to find out for myself just how much better
18:26:48 <ZachThibeau> the code we are working with which is from the original vba beta is messy and needs to be optimized :)
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18:28:37 <qwertymodo> it's dumb that vista and 7 don't just come with the backwards compatible dx versions
18:28:47 <ZachThibeau> yeah I know
18:28:52 <ZachThibeau> but fixable though ;)
18:28:57 <Bensawsome> well thats ms for ya :/
18:29:19 <qwertymodo> yeah it's fixable... 73.8Mb download later
18:29:30 <ZachThibeau> lol
18:30:18 <ZachThibeau> yeah well the rewrite is going to basically turn vba into a library developers can hook into and make their own gba emu :)
18:30:33 <qwertymodo> wow that'll be cool
18:31:27 <qwertymodo> so would that mean plug-in capability or what?
18:31:53 <ZachThibeau> yup I'm working on my own gba emu based off of vba but with wxwidgets so directx will not be an issue and it will provide a universal ui to all operating systems and no plugins just allow users to make their own frontends
18:32:49 <ZachThibeau> the plugins could be an option but that would be up to the developers choice if they want to include something like that in their front end :P
18:33:00 <qwertymodo> oh i see, so turning it into a library would mean the frontends would actually integrate into the app, not just make calls to a command-line backend
18:35:20 <ZachThibeau> no no :P just like wxwidgets is a gui toolkit it uses the host os's API to make the calls but all as 1 application, so vba will be come a library of emulation api that a frontend can statically link to
18:37:43 <qwertymodo> ok. haha just shows how much I know about development. I can write my own apps and I can use apps, but I'm clueless when it comes to working with APIs or integrating with existing code :P guess I'll have to learn it eventually... being a compsci major and all...
18:37:57 <SteveLamerton> :O
18:38:08 <ZachThibeau> lol well I'm just teaching myself :P
18:38:35 <qwertymodo> yeah i do a lot of that too
18:39:09 <ZachThibeau> *sigh* I should get back to fixing my zsnes launcher
18:39:25 <ZachThibeau> I'm still trying to figure out how to change the paths in a nicer way
18:39:48 <ZachThibeau> I even contemplating making a c++ launcher too :P
18:40:15 <SteveLamerton> I think bruce had one years ago
18:40:57 * SteveLamerton wonders if he hase been on PortableApps.com for way too long
18:41:01 <SteveLamerton> *has
18:41:11 <SteveLamerton> 3 years 31 weeks
18:42:02 <qwertymodo> a c++ launcher? why are you considering that?
18:42:04 <ZachThibeau> 3 years 7 weeks
18:42:16 <ZachThibeau> why just because I like different :P
18:42:20 <SteveLamerton> Woooo, I win ;)
18:42:23 <ZachThibeau> and I like being different :P
18:42:38 <qwertymodo> haha different is fine
18:43:09 <SteveLamerton> The real problem is that Zach has way too much free time :P
18:43:15 <qwertymodo> i've actually been working on making some apps portable for my work
18:43:20 <ZachThibeau> good because I'm a french Canadian that doesn't speak french :P
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18:43:47 <ZachThibeau> and yes SteveLamerton thats a down side to having a part time job and there are no full time positions anywhere :(
18:44:01 <ZachThibeau> basically I do this to fight depression xD
18:44:04 <ZachThibeau> in a sense :P
18:44:38 <SteveLamerton> I feel for you, there is nothing at all where I live, I was look for something over the summer, but there are way too many people with better qualifications than me at the moment!
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18:45:22 <ZachThibeau> yeah :(
18:45:49 <ZachThibeau> well where I am is the town wants to hire people they know and not people that are from away which is my prediciment :(
18:46:25 <SteveLamerton> :(
18:48:38 <ZachThibeau> it's also sad that the free time I have I customized my entire linux install I have xD
18:48:45 <ZachThibeau> I should of been a gentoo user xD
18:48:50 <ZachThibeau> my ubuntu install is all custom now
18:49:09 <ZachThibeau> custom kernel, custom gnome version everything and every update I have I compile from source xD
18:49:40 <SteveLamerton> Wow!
18:50:48 <ZachThibeau> yeah kernel version I am running atm is 2,6,30.1
18:50:48 <dbdii407> My sister got a twitter! :D
18:50:48 <ZachThibeau> and ubuntu is stuck at 2.6.28 atm
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18:53:07 <qwertymodo> it's always fun when your computer just decides to up and reboot on you :S
18:53:29 <ZachThibeau> lol
18:54:02 <qwertymodo> it was the dX9 that did it
18:54:08 <ZachThibeau> O_o
18:54:10 <ZachThibeau> odd
18:54:19 <ZachThibeau> that never happened to me when I ran it on my system xD
18:54:25 <qwertymodo> it finished installing and rebooted
18:54:34 <ZachThibeau> I guess it's all depends on the system it's on too
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18:55:05 <qwertymodo> well it might also depend on what version you had before
18:55:31 <ZachThibeau> well running vista home premium on first install never did that to me
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18:55:36 <ZachThibeau> btw I love Vista
18:55:43 <ZachThibeau> call me sad but I like it :)
18:55:55 <qwertymodo> nah, i like it too... when it works
18:55:59 <ZachThibeau> lol
18:56:02 <qwertymodo> 7 is happier for me
18:56:10 <ZachThibeau> I'm going to remove it for windows 7 rc1
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18:56:39 <qwertymodo> 7's not really that different from vista, it just works better in my experience
18:57:05 <qwertymodo> then again, i have 64-bit, so i should have expected to have issues
18:57:44 <qwertymodo> native DivX and h.264 in WMP is nice :)
18:59:00 <qwertymodo> *needs to install vista sp2*
18:59:09 <ZachThibeau> I more of an Xvid guy :P
18:59:56 <qwertymodo> well it plays xvid too. it's just nice because now i can actually use media center
19:00:13 <ZachThibeau> yeah I know what you mean :P but I like encoding with xvid :D
19:00:22 <ZachThibeau> I love the name actually xD
19:00:28 <ZachThibeau> xvid divx
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19:02:20 <ZachThibeau> Firefox 3.5.1 is out according ubuntuzilla I have installed on ubuntu :)
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19:02:42 * ZachThibeau compiles firefox for windows
19:03:01 <qwertymodo> yeah my firefox just updated somthing when i launched it like 5 minutes ago....
19:03:01 <ZachThibeau> I love compiling firefox :D better optimized for my system that way than the stock build
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19:04:18 <ZachThibeau> anyways windows 7 has finished burning to a disk and I'm ready to install :)
19:04:32 <qwertymodo> well have fun with that :)
19:04:44 <qwertymodo> you used the betas?
19:05:09 <ZachThibeau> yeah the beta's where much faster and better than the rc's xD
19:05:34 <qwertymodo> really? i didn't notice
19:06:06 <ZachThibeau> I did
19:06:21 <ZachThibeau> hence the reason I kind of switched back to vista
19:06:57 <qwertymodo> what do you mean rc's? i mean there was just the one rc so why plural?
19:07:34 <ZachThibeau> just a typo
19:07:49 <ZachThibeau> and I'm tired after a long morning of cleaning up the court house I work at
19:08:14 <qwertymodo> oh ok i thought mebbe you were talking about the leaked 70xx builds
19:08:55 <qwertymodo> well i think i'm gonna go outside... crazy as that sounds.... and get away from this computer
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19:09:15 <ZachThibeau> later qwertymodo
19:09:21 <qwertymodo> bye
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19:34:19 <Andrew_> Hello, I was wondering if someone could answer a simple question for me
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19:35:25 <Bensawsome> Andrew88 sure what is it?
19:36:02 <Andrew88> Thank you. I wanted to know if uninstalling a portable app is just a matter of deleting it's directory and refreshing the start icons
19:36:17 <Andrew88> I can't seem to find an option to remove an app, just one to install
19:36:58 <Bensawsome> yes it is. it says it all here: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#removingapps
19:37:54 <Andrew88> hehe, thanks alot
19:38:03 <Andrew88> I knew it was a stupid question
19:38:58 <Bensawsome> there is no such thing as a stupid question. but it would be nice if ya search first ;)
19:38:59 <Bensawsome> lol
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21:51:09 <AppGuy> who do i tell for errors in the PAM 1.6 Pre0.5
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