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02:37:23 <daBomb69> Hello pa_5158
02:37:58 <pa_5158> hi
02:38:04 <pa_5158> Can you help
02:38:13 <daBomb69> sure, what do you need help with?
02:38:35 <pa_5158> I found my thunderbird emails were showing up as attachments when sent to an outlook 2007 account
02:38:51 <pa_5158> What am I doin wrong?
02:39:01 <daBomb69> umm...
02:43:19 <daBomb69> Well, I'm not quite sure. You might want to try support from Mozilla on that.
02:44:10 <pa_5158> Trying but not understanding it all
02:44:51 <pa_5158> Can you explain this comment please - http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=5340345#p5340345
02:44:51 <Bensawsome> well the problem is that I dont think too many people here use thunderbird... myself included
02:45:33 <Bensawsome> heh... i have no idea o_0
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02:45:53 <daBomb69> pa_5158, he's saying that when you forward something it's supposed to forward it exactly as is
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02:47:15 <daBomb69> pa_5158, try asking in #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
02:49:08 <daBomb69> erm, pa_5158, just go here: http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=b0dbbe0e14af4de0c6158f3b3f7c0bb0&server=irc.mozilla.org&channel=%23thunderbird&noServerTab=false&autoConnect=true
02:50:42 <daBomb69> that'll take you to a webchat for the thunderbird irc channel on Mozilla's IRC
02:51:01 <pa_5158> Thanks ; )
02:51:20 <daBomb69> your welcome, have a nice day.
02:51:21 <daBomb69> :)
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03:31:30 <JohnTHaller> hola
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03:40:00 <Bensawsome> ohai JohnTHaller ^_^
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03:40:25 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
03:40:29 <Bensawsome> good
03:40:33 <Bensawsome> how was oscon?
03:41:08 <JohnTHaller> tis good. couple sessions today on openid and social web stuff and scaling mysql sites
03:41:15 <Bensawsome> cool :D
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05:21:50 <pa_8906> A quick question regarding the usage of this software
05:22:13 <pa_8906> we are small company in India and want to distribute this software freely with our pen drives
05:22:30 <pa_8906> do we require any permissions?
05:23:25 <pa_8906> is this the right place to ask this question?
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05:32:00 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
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09:03:58 <Horusofoz> SPAM - http://portableapps.com/node/13024#comment-123633
09:04:44 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Horusofoz
09:04:54 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, but I can't do anything about it as I'm not a mod
09:05:23 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: you missed the boat for getting Dutch into BPBible 0.4.5... how're you going though?
09:06:57 <Horusofoz> Hey ChrisMorgan
09:12:37 <MaienM> haven't worked on it much last few days since I just started my new job
09:12:47 <ChrisMorgan> Ooo... what is it?
09:12:57 <MaienM> I'm planning on working on it today though, lets hope I actually get to do so :P
09:13:00 <MaienM> programming :P
09:13:10 <ChrisMorgan> Concurrent with school (you're still in school aren't you?)?
09:13:21 <MaienM> yep
09:13:34 <ChrisMorgan> What sort of programming?
09:13:56 <MaienM> PHP
09:14:19 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/20044 should be removed
09:14:33 <ChrisMorgan> a) it's a request, b) commercial software, c) infected with malware
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09:28:06 <simonddrew> Question: What is the likely expected life for a Portable Apps thumbdrive used on a daily basis and updated regularly with a reasonably large number of apps?
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10:08:02 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
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10:23:06 <ChrisMorgan> simonddrew: the vast majority of USB disks will stop being used or get lost before they die.
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10:23:27 <ChrisMorgan> Running programs from them will shorten their life span, but normally it won't do damage.
10:23:35 <ChrisMorgan> Always back things up though :-)
10:23:43 <ChrisMorgan> Hello pa_0993, can we help you with anything?
10:24:01 <pa_0993> can one uninsattl apps placed in portable apps menu
10:24:48 <pa_0993> like I really don't need portable math
10:24:58 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#removingapps
10:25:02 <ChrisMorgan> For OpenOffice.org?
10:25:27 <pa_0993> yea I don't really need 3 types of fire foxes
10:25:43 <ChrisMorgan> You must have installed three copies of it then.
10:26:05 <ChrisMorgan> The way OpenOffice.org works, you can't uninstall one particular program. Unlike Microsoft Office where each application is separate with a few shared bits, in OpenOffice.org it's all very tightly interwoven.
10:26:11 <pa_0993> sunbird,thunderbird,regulular
10:26:24 <ChrisMorgan> They're different programs.
10:26:30 <pa_0993> oh
10:26:32 <pa_0993> okay
10:26:35 <ChrisMorgan> Firefox is a browser, Sunbird is calendar, Thunderbird is mail.
10:26:41 <pa_0993> I understnad you other point though
10:27:04 <ChrisMorgan> For Sunbird, you can save some space by using the Lightning extension for Thunderbird which has very similar capabilities.
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10:28:00 <pa_0993> and three folders aren't opening documents pictures videos ohh ohh and mucic
10:29:40 <ChrisMorgan> What do you mean they aren't opening?
10:29:54 <pa_0993> like in windows a folder pops up
10:30:03 <pa_0993> or is that wrong
10:30:18 <ChrisMorgan> Are you clicking on the buttons from the PortableApps.com Menu or opening them from Explorer?
10:31:01 <pa_0993> its like a start menu that pops up when I click the Icon next to the clock
10:31:40 <ChrisMorgan> That's the PortableApps.com Menu
10:32:11 <pa_0993> okay but thoe 4 entries do nothing
10:32:33 <ChrisMorgan> They should open the folders from the root of your USB disk: Documents, and Pictures, Videos, Music as subdirectories of it.
10:32:36 <ChrisMorgan> Are they there?
10:32:45 <ChrisMorgan> X:\Documents, X:\Documents\Pictures, etc.
10:33:08 <pa_0993> no
10:33:14 <pa_0993> their not their
10:33:18 <ChrisMorgan> Did you delete them?
10:33:25 <ChrisMorgan> How did you go about installing the PortableApps.com Platform?
10:34:38 <pa_0993> when to the web site and downloaded the app
10:34:57 <simonddrew> ChrisMorgan: Thanks for the reply. Seems like I have managed to mangle mine :[ Follow-up question therefore... (a) Could we have a PortableApp Util for indicating (in the menu) that there is I/O on the drive? (b) are there recommended diagnosis tools for mangled thumbdrives?
10:35:36 <ChrisMorgan> The latest version of the PortableApps.com Platform, 2.0 Beta 1, includes a simple way of checking the disk for errors.
10:36:06 <ChrisMorgan> Just right click in the empty area and click on "Check disk for errors" I think it is (haven't tested it yet) :-)
10:36:25 <ChrisMorgan> pa_0993: after you installed it did you delete those directories?
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10:37:02 <ChrisMorgan> simonddrew: by I/O on the drive, I presume you mean just an indicator when anything is happening with it, rather than an error checking thing?
10:37:10 <simonddrew> Yes.
10:37:25 <ChrisMorgan> If so, that is theoretically possible, but very difficult to program as it would require hooking into system APIs all over the place.
10:37:43 <ChrisMorgan> I think for the moment you'll have to stick to the LED on your USB disk (if it's got one)...
10:38:26 <simonddrew> I agree.... Just feel I'm missing a 'Don't touch that drive!' sign on the screen
10:38:35 <ChrisMorgan> :P
10:38:47 <ChrisMorgan> First of all, just try running the error checking. Make a backup as well of whatever you can get.
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10:43:19 <ChrisMorgan> This malikor guy is a pest... goes posting unhelpful comments, bringing up old threads to say nothing that hadn't already been said, etc... now I'm wondering, at http://weblog.pigfoot.org/pigfoot/2009/07/20/firefox-3-5-1-release-optimized-build/ he commented and puts in a link to "Entity Z" as his homepage... is he the "Entity Z" guy?
10:43:31 <ChrisMorgan> http://weblog.pigfoot.org/pigfoot/2009/07/20/firefox-3-5-1-release-optimized-build/#comment-32558
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10:56:53 <Horusofoz> He isn't the "entity Z" guy but I think he was associated with it as, if I remember, correctly he moderated the the short lived entity Z forum
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11:48:30 <Horusofoz> SPAM - http://portableapps.com/node/18262#comment-123635 (Same user)
11:52:23 <ChrisMorgan> Moderated... ha. Ha ha.
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11:59:21 <MaienM> I like patrick's response to that thread :P
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12:53:24 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Steve... g'nite all
12:54:34 <SteveLamerton> Heya all, bye ChrisMorgan
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13:57:07 <purple> anyone knows something about Gizmokid's RSSOwl portable work other than written on a websitte?
14:07:47 <SteveLamerton> Not I
14:09:43 <purple> anyway. can i leave him some sort of memo ?
14:10:52 <SteveLamerton> Not sure, it would easiest to leave a note in the forum thread as that was it is useful for other people too
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14:13:02 <purple> agreed
14:13:05 <purple> thx
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16:13:38 <jnw2221> hi
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17:38:32 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
17:38:32 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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18:00:12 <NeoRame> zach u little canadian....
18:00:25 <NeoRame> where are u?????
18:00:41 <Scriptdaemon> lol
18:01:03 <SergentSiler> LOL
18:01:06 <SergentSiler> sup NeoRame :P
18:01:27 <NeoRame> long time not see guys ;-)
18:01:34 <NeoRame> howdy @ all
18:01:35 <SergentSiler> :P
18:02:15 <NeoRame> i had to do some work in the wii scene ;-)
18:02:18 <SergentSiler> ZachThibeau, >_>
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18:02:33 <SergentSiler> XD
18:02:45 <ZachThibeau> ohh sorry NeoRame
18:02:46 <SergentSiler> ohai/bai JTH :P
18:02:59 <ZachThibeau> was busy fixing a board upgrade for one of my sites I maintain :P
18:03:13 <NeoRame> zach my little canadian friend have u get my mail ?
18:03:26 <Scriptdaemon> have u get?
18:03:35 <ZachThibeau> haven't checked as soon as I came home from work I went to fixing my board :P
18:03:39 <ZachThibeau> will check now though
18:04:02 <ZachThibeau> O_O I love it
18:04:06 <ZachThibeau> :D
18:04:08 * SergentSiler cranks Trance Around the World
18:04:09 <NeoRame> <--- stupid german sorry script ;-)
18:04:15 <ZachThibeau> no worries
18:04:24 <Scriptdaemon> =P
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18:05:23 <ZachThibeau> now once my board is fixed I can get to working on a new version of PChat and I'll post the portable version asap :)
18:05:51 <NeoRame> the logo is ok ? cool!
18:05:59 <Scriptdaemon> Btw, why PChat?
18:06:05 <Scriptdaemon> What is significant about the p?
18:06:18 <ZachThibeau> yeah I love it and Scriptdaemon the significance of the P is Portable ;)
18:06:34 <ZachThibeau> and it's a fork of XChat
18:06:41 <Scriptdaemon> I know that part. =P
18:07:04 <NeoRame> and now PCHat have a nice looking logo ;-)
18:07:12 <Scriptdaemon> Link?
18:07:13 <SergentSiler> :D
18:07:16 <ZachThibeau> and the P is also to mock XChat for going sharewre
18:07:24 <Scriptdaemon> lawl
18:07:53 <NeoRame> ask zach fo the screenie ;-)
18:08:01 <SergentSiler> ZachThibeau, give give? :D
18:08:35 <ZachThibeau> already on it :P http://i30.tinypic.com/28vstpk.png
18:08:51 <SergentSiler> and now im drooling O_O
18:09:03 * SergentSiler gives NeoRame a cookie for his awsome work
18:09:03 <Scriptdaemon> Wow
18:09:20 <Scriptdaemon> Indeed. That's great.
18:09:41 <ZachThibeau> :)
18:09:41 <NeoRame> THX guys ;-)
18:10:06 <ZachThibeau> NeoRame: I could of done something but I only do very large images well xD http://i27.tinypic.com/2e1rp00.jpg
18:10:11 <ZachThibeau> and thats done with Gimp BTW :P
18:10:40 <ZachThibeau> I'm wierd I can do this kind of stuff but icons and logos I have no clue what to do xD
18:11:46 <NeoRame> you have create the earth with gimp????
18:12:16 <ZachThibeau> well not really the earth never tried
18:12:38 <NeoRame> ahh ok
18:12:49 <ZachThibeau> I may sometime though :)
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18:13:54 <SergentSiler> NeoRame, theming for 2.0 already i see :P
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18:14:04 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
18:14:15 <NeoRame> only an old theme in a patheme format ;-)
18:14:21 <SergentSiler> lol
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18:14:36 <SergentSiler> i gotta convert all mine to the new patheme format
18:14:44 <SergentSiler> then i can start creating more again
18:14:53 <NeoRame> i will wait for the final theme support
18:15:01 <NeoRame> advance version u know
18:15:08 <SergentSiler> ah
18:16:38 <ZachThibeau> here is the best Icon I will ever achieve xD http://i25.tinypic.com/znagyv.png
18:16:59 <ZachThibeau> Guest66285: orly now MaienM
18:17:05 <SergentSiler> lol
18:17:12 <ZachThibeau> it seems you forgot to ident in time :P
18:17:25 <SergentSiler> he /was/ MaienM|Away before the netsplit
18:17:48 <NeoRame> lol zach
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18:19:01 <ZachThibeau> howdy pa_9797, how may we assist you today?
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18:19:50 <JohnTHaller> hola
18:20:04 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
18:20:09 <pa_9797> I am new to the service and would like to know how I use this. I know how to download to my flash drive, but how do I use them on my computer
18:20:12 <pa_9797> ?
18:20:31 <pa_9797> do I have to download them to my computer from my flash drive?
18:22:13 <ZachThibeau> you download them like any other kind of application, once executed via our PortableApps.com Installer it will look for a flash drive that has the PortableApps.com Platform and then install to that, once done installing you can execute it from your flash drive or if you want to run it locally you can simply get the installer to install into any folder as you wish
18:23:13 <pa_9797> oh, ok, I think I am downloading the platform now I think
18:23:56 <pa_9797> does the platform have to be downloaded to the flash drive or computer?
18:24:10 <NeoRame> computer
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18:24:15 <ZachThibeau> it doesn't matter really
18:24:33 <NeoRame> and when u install this it detect your flashdrive automaticly
18:24:37 <JohnTHaller> It doesn't matter, but it's usually easiest and fastest to just download it to your desktop and then run from there
18:24:49 <NeoRame> jep
18:24:56 <NeoRame> howdy john
18:25:34 <NeoRame> nice pics with the usb sticks in your hand ;-)
18:25:53 <pa_9797> oh ok, thats what I am doing. thank you. I really hope this works, I like to have these apps available for going from computer to computer. I am on my in laws now, but I go from here, to my mothers comp, to the library and to work
18:25:59 <pa_9797> so this will help I hope
18:26:25 <JohnTHaller> yeah, it should work on all those
18:26:34 <ZachThibeau> it should I mean before I got my laptop thats what I used to do :P
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18:27:52 <pa_9797> lol, I am hoping to get a new laptop soon. my other one screwed the pooch last year when it got liquid spilled on it by the kids
18:27:57 <pa_9797> not happy about it
18:28:14 <ZachThibeau> yeah I can imagine
18:28:39 <pa_9797> thanks for your help guys, i appreciate this
18:28:43 <rcmaehl> pooch?
18:29:16 <ZachThibeau> pa_9797: no problem happy to be of service
18:29:31 <rcmaehl> k
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18:30:50 <JohnTHaller> Oh, I just posted PortableApps.com Platform 2.0 Beta 2 with a few quick bug fixes :-)
18:31:03 <NeoRame> see it ;-)
18:31:14 <NeoRame> awesome wrk john
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18:31:37 <ZachThibeau> cool :D
18:31:53 <SergentSiler> woah already on beta 2 o_O
18:32:04 <SergentSiler> it was on beta 0 like yesterday o_O
18:32:07 <SergentSiler> fast work :P
18:32:10 <ZachThibeau> beta 1 SergentSiler ;)
18:32:18 <ZachThibeau> that was beta 1 not 0 :P
18:32:24 <SergentSiler> it says beta 0 :P
18:32:34 <SergentSiler> or at least said
18:32:38 <ZachThibeau> not for me :P
18:32:44 <SergentSiler> lol
18:33:03 <SergentSiler> mebbe i misread XD
18:33:26 <ZachThibeau> anyways getting a new pc :D
18:33:30 <SergentSiler> :D
18:34:16 <ZachThibeau> it's a very small pc from HP dual core amd 64 bit processors with 4gigs of ram 200gig hard drive and a pretty good graphics card in a really small case :D
18:34:40 <SergentSiler> whats the mobo formfactor
18:34:41 <SergentSiler> ?
18:34:57 <ZachThibeau> comes with Windows XP Media Center :D built in wifi ethernet tv output the works :D
18:35:01 <JohnTHaller> NeoRame: Sorry I couldn't get sub-themes in the release yet. I need to wait for the theme switching UI to be built :-(
18:35:16 <ZachThibeau> and SergentSiler don't know going back later tomorrow
18:35:22 <SergentSiler> kewl
18:36:41 <ZachThibeau> anyways JohnTHaller, NeoRame gave pchat a new icon :P http://i30.tinypic.com/28vstpk.png
18:37:27 <NeoRame> no problem john, i have waiting a long time so i can wait this few weeks or days too ;-)
18:38:18 <NeoRame> but for now the standart them thing is great, only on thing i missing ..... categorys :-P
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18:38:33 * ZachThibeau sets up his gtk dev area to recompile PChat with new icons :3
18:39:55 <NeoRame> i hope t is ok that i used the PA.c colors for the icon john...
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18:42:04 <NeoRame1> ahhhh my fu***** wlan
18:42:08 <SergentSiler> lol
18:42:27 <NeoRame1> what i have missed since: (20:45:45) ***ZachThibeau sets up his gtk dev area to recompile PChat with new icons :3 ????????????????????
18:42:45 <SergentSiler> nothing
18:42:51 <ZachThibeau> yeah nothing
18:42:53 <NeoRame1> ok thx
18:43:06 <ZachThibeau> unless you count tunning my guitar something :P
18:43:13 <SergentSiler> lol
18:43:32 <NeoRame1> i hate this reconnect thing
18:45:42 <ZachThibeau> lol
18:45:53 <ZachThibeau> I hear you
18:46:12 <NeoRame1> yeahhhh!!!! 11 ReferrerPoints on RS ;-)
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18:55:15 <JohnTHaller> just posted beta 3 to fix the 4th icon in the app list being broken
18:55:23 <JohnTHaller> and session done... lunch... back later
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20:15:04 <Bensawsome> AGH SPAM: http://portableapps.com/node/18262#comment-123635
20:16:01 <Oni-Neoxes> Bensawsome, i lol'd
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21:08:13 <rcmaehl> I'm smart
21:08:40 <rcmaehl> !op
21:08:46 <rcmaehl> in my channels op me
21:08:50 <rcmaehl> oh wait
21:08:55 <rcmaehl> this isn't -ot is it
21:09:10 <rcmaehl> damn it
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21:48:24 <pa_9039> help! Dumb question: I am using Firefox 3.5. How do I direct the download to my USB drive rather than the usual location?
21:50:41 <jnw222> might be an option in settings
21:51:22 <Bensawsome> there is but im not sure if it takes relative paths. sorry i cant hgelp more im going to get mai pizza :D
21:53:30 <jnw222> oh it doesnt
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22:00:22 <pa_9039> thanks!
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23:42:27 <D_S_> greetings, is there a way to install portableapps from linux?
23:42:44 <jnw222|||afk> WINE
23:44:24 <D_S_> ok, besides wine a tar or package?
23:44:49 <jnw222|||afk> on debian or ubuntu
23:44:55 <jnw222|||afk> apt-get install wine
23:45:22 <Bensawsome> sudo apt-get install wine
23:45:23 <Bensawsome> ;)
23:45:50 <jnw222|||afk> :
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23:47:38 * D_S_ testing with wine
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