IRC Log from 2009-07-24

00:01:47 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler
00:05:39 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK
00:08:04 *** Don_Miguel has quit (Connection timed out)
00:09:10 *** Don_Miguel (n=MichaelW@200.87.191.243) has joined #portableapps
00:18:45 *** rcmaehl (n=rcmaehl@96-28-92-129.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps
00:30:11 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005
00:31:49 *** Don_Miguel has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
00:32:57 <rcmaehl> I have an idea for an app
00:33:28 <rcmaehl> A security program like the U3 security but better.
00:33:43 <rcmaehl> With stuff incase you forget you pass
00:35:14 <rcmaehl> And no Truecrypt b/c it's not portable
00:35:18 <rcmaehl> plz
00:38:48 <rcmaehl> kinda like this
00:38:48 *** upnPAD (n=upnPAD@121.216.40.148) has joined #portableapps
00:38:48 <rcmaehl> http://www.infopackets.com/news/security/2004/20041111_password_protect_files_and_folders.htm
00:40:27 <rcmaehl> Hello?
00:44:11 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit ("restarting")
00:47:02 *** Don_Miguel (n=MichaelW@200.87.191.243) has joined #portableapps
00:52:33 <rcmaehl> I have a App for PA.c
00:53:35 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: you of all people should know better: PE retails for $39.95; to purchase Folder Password Expert, click the link below. You can also download a trial version of Folder Password Expert from the FPE web site if you want to try it out before committing.
00:53:40 <Gizmokid2005> it's not FOSS...so it won't happen.
00:53:47 <rcmaehl> oh
00:53:49 <rcmaehl> srry
00:54:07 <rcmaehl> didnt see that
00:54:08 <Gizmokid2005> and using pw protected zip files is not a good idea either...you have to unpack and repack it every time you want to change something or access something.
00:54:19 <rcmaehl> hmmm
00:54:20 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: please read before suggesting things.
00:54:34 <rcmaehl> I have an app I am making
00:54:40 <jnw222> cool
00:58:57 <rcmaehl> Well it's for making non PA.c apps more PA like
00:59:38 <rcmaehl> you can view the non .exe file http://fcofix.org/files/pa.zip
00:59:53 <Bensawsome> you mean for portabilizing them?
00:59:56 <rcmaehl> I'm adding Instructions
01:00:03 <rcmaehl> not really
01:00:04 <ZachThibeau> well rcmaehl sorry to say but something like that is already being done
01:00:10 <Bensawsome> ya thats already being done...
01:00:24 <rcmaehl> Not really portablizing them
01:00:28 <ZachThibeau> you seriously need to look before you leap
01:00:29 <rcmaehl> but like adding info
01:00:32 <Bensawsome> well what then....
01:00:45 <rcmaehl> like adding info about the about
01:00:50 <Bensawsome> ...
01:00:52 <rcmaehl> the APP folder
01:00:59 <rcmaehl> basically
01:01:01 <jnw222> first a generic launcher is in progress
01:01:06 <jnw222> not that hard to make
01:01:09 <rcmaehl> NSIS
01:01:20 <Bensawsome> jnw222 actually it is
01:03:35 <rcmaehl> I'm basically making an APP folder installer
01:05:43 <rcmaehl> how do you make it so the installer installs in the portableapps folder
01:05:51 <rcmaehl> or the usb drive
01:06:18 *** jnw222 has quit ("bye")
01:06:43 <Bensawsome> you mean basically extract the contents of the not portabelapp and put it in the portableapps folder?
01:06:54 <rcmaehl> ...
01:07:26 <rcmaehl> no
01:07:41 <rcmaehl> Think the App Folder
01:07:58 <rcmaehl> and the info in the PAP when you hover over an app
01:13:02 <rcmaehl> Hold on
01:18:34 <rcmaehl> Here
01:18:34 <rcmaehl> http://www.fcofix.org/files/install.html
01:18:48 <rcmaehl> oops
01:18:50 <rcmaehl> hold on
01:22:30 <rcmaehl> http://www.fcofix.org/files/install.html
01:22:33 <rcmaehl> fixed
01:23:50 <rcmaehl> tkae a look
01:25:34 <rcmaehl> hello
01:25:35 <rcmaehl> ?
01:27:18 *** SergentSiler (n=Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps
01:27:18 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
01:27:18 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
01:27:37 <rcmaehl> http://www.fcofix.org/files/install.html
01:28:59 <rcmaehl> srry
01:29:34 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving")
01:32:17 <rcmaehl> Help!
01:32:32 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK
01:32:40 <rcmaehl> ...
01:32:55 <rcmaehl> I'm leaving but still check out http://www.fcofix.org/files/install.html
01:32:58 *** rcmaehl has parted #portableapps ("May the forks be with you!")
01:43:44 *** dbdii407 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
01:44:14 *** dbdii407 (n=dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps
01:44:23 *** Scriptdaemon (n=KennyW@cpe-76-83-207-236.dc.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
01:46:44 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@74-44-92-38.dsl1-pixley.roch.ny.frontiernet.net) has joined #portableapps
01:51:30 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps
02:16:43 *** dragonmage (i=newdrago@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
02:27:06 *** AppGuy has quit (Remote closed the connection)
02:30:29 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
02:31:24 *** Suiseiseki (i=Opera_Ba@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps
02:32:56 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@137-150.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps
02:34:24 *** Scriptdaemon has quit ("Leaving")
03:03:05 *** Sui_Dorimu (n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps
03:03:12 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away
03:03:37 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Nick collision from services.)
03:05:30 *** Sui_Dorimu is now known as Suiseiseki
03:13:40 *** Whibo has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
03:14:55 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@137-150.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps
03:27:02 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep
03:34:24 <Bensawsome> win. portableapps.com has already won 2 cca awards :D
03:49:24 <Whibo> :)
04:22:27 <Gizmokid2005> :D
04:22:27 <Gizmokid2005> yay
04:22:35 <Bensawsome> dang
04:22:38 <Bensawsome> now they won...
04:22:46 <Bensawsome> .o twitter sourceforge
04:22:46 <GizmoBot> <@sourceforge> Ready for some more ThinkGeek prizes? 2nd and 9th to @SourceForge with #CCAlive! (http://twitter.com/sourceforge/statuses/2812686606)
04:22:49 <Bensawsome> ...
04:23:20 <Bensawsome> .o twitter sourceforge 2
04:23:20 <GizmoBot> <@sourceforge> #CCAlive Best Commercial Open Source Project: PortableApps.com (http://twitter.com/sourceforge/statuses/2812558152)
04:23:23 <Bensawsome> :D
04:23:28 <Bensawsome> wait commercial? i)9
04:23:31 <Bensawsome> o_0
04:23:56 <Gizmokid2005> Best COMMERCIAL OSS project?????
04:24:02 <Gizmokid2005> ....
04:24:05 <Gizmokid2005> how are we commercial?
04:24:32 <Bensawsome> i... do not know :/
04:25:42 <Gizmokid2005> I love their nametags
04:27:52 <Bensawsome> OMG JOHN IS ON GUYS!
04:27:53 <Bensawsome> OMG JOHN IS ON GUYS!
04:27:54 <Bensawsome> OMG JOHN IS ON GUYS!
04:27:54 <Bensawsome> OMG JOHN IS ON GUYS!
04:27:57 <Gizmokid2005> HAH HES ON!!
04:28:01 <Bensawsome> http://ccalive.com/
04:28:02 <Bensawsome> GO
04:28:03 <Bensawsome> NAO
04:28:51 <Bensawsome> GO JOHN!
04:29:04 <Bensawsome> lol
04:30:50 <Bensawsome> lol
04:31:27 <Gizmokid2005> KUDOS!
04:31:27 <Gizmokid2005> :D
04:31:34 <Bensawsome> BOOYAH
04:31:48 <Bensawsome> DAMNIT
04:31:52 <Bensawsome> XD
04:32:17 <Bensawsome> lol internet
04:32:18 <Gizmokid2005> yay?
04:32:18 <Gizmokid2005> lol
04:32:28 <Bensawsome> that was funny
04:32:56 <Gizmokid2005> eeebuntu
04:32:57 <Gizmokid2005> rofl
04:32:58 <Gizmokid2005> go them
04:33:24 <Bensawsome> yarly
04:33:47 <Bensawsome> i hope we win then besty project though :D
04:34:06 <Bensawsome> hmmm
04:34:09 <Bensawsome> .o lastfm
04:34:11 <GizmoBot> Now playing Eurodancer by Dj Mangoo - http://www.last.fm/music/Dj+Mangoo/_/Eurodancer
04:34:15 <Bensawsome> woops sry meant to do that in ot >_>
04:50:40 <Bensawsome> WIN
04:50:42 <Bensawsome> WIN
04:51:43 <Bensawsome> LOL
04:51:48 <Bensawsome> zach was mentioned :D
04:52:39 <Bensawsome> WIN Gizmokid2005!
04:52:39 <Bensawsome> :D
04:54:57 <Gizmokid2005> YAY!!!
04:55:00 <Bensawsome> :D
04:55:03 <Gizmokid2005> I saw it on my phone!
04:55:06 <Bensawsome> YARLY Gizmokid2005!
04:55:11 * Bensawsome is happeh <#
04:55:30 <Bensawsome> .o twitter ccalive 4
04:55:31 <GizmoBot> <@ccalive> Best project is #portableappls @rturk #ccalive! (http://twitter.com/ccalive/statuses/2813144972)
04:55:35 <Bensawsome> wow fail :/
04:55:39 <Bensawsome> lolololol
04:57:05 <Gizmokid2005> lol fail.
04:57:20 <Bensawsome> omg
04:57:26 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 portableapples?!! :D
04:57:29 <Bensawsome> lol
04:57:32 <Gizmokid2005> lol
04:59:42 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/node/20079
05:00:00 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission."
05:00:55 * Bensawsome high fives Gizmokid2005 ^_^
05:01:11 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | CCA Wins: http://portableapps.com/node/20079"
05:01:48 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | SF CCA Wins: http://portableapps.com/node/20079"
05:03:28 <Bensawsome> well nite Gizmokid2005
05:03:36 <Bensawsome> good job john :D
05:03:52 <Gizmokid2005> nite Bensawsome
05:07:44 *** Whibo has quit ()
05:09:59 *** abc528 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
05:10:11 *** toekin (i=4610f7a6@gateway/web/freenode/x-45dbf9673f85c869) has joined #portableapps
05:10:13 *** abc528 (n=abc528@lns-bzn-29-82-248-246-221.adsl.proxad.net) has joined #portableapps
05:32:35 *** ChrisMorgan (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps
05:32:35 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
05:38:33 *** Suiseiseki has quit ("Read error: 409 (connection not clean, using Formula 409 to clean up connection)")
05:38:44 <ChrisMorgan> So much for "12 winners" :D
05:43:38 *** sancas_ (n=sancas@190.87.244.216) has joined #portableapps
05:47:04 *** alpha1beta (n=Michael@unaffiliated/alpha1beta) has joined #portableapps
05:47:10 <alpha1beta> hey guys
05:47:33 <alpha1beta> i tried to get on mibbit...freenode told me they don't allow mibbit to connect anymore?
05:48:10 *** |ChrisMorgan| (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps
05:48:36 <alpha1beta> hey Chris
05:48:39 <Gizmokid2005> alpha1beta: yep
05:48:42 <toekin> alpha1beta: old hat =D
05:48:46 <Gizmokid2005> FN blocked mibbit a few weeks ago
05:48:53 <toekin> webchat.freenode.net
05:48:56 <alpha1beta> wow, have you seen Tim since?
05:49:02 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Nick collision from services.)
05:49:05 *** |ChrisMorgan| is now known as ChrisMorgan
05:49:09 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: a couple of times.
05:49:10 <Gizmokid2005> alpha1beta: not really
05:49:17 <Gizmokid2005> not like he used to be
05:49:22 <Gizmokid2005> it REALLY rubbed him the wrong way
05:49:23 <ChrisMorgan> I'm only aware of two times.
05:49:27 <ChrisMorgan> Ya.
05:49:30 <ChrisMorgan> Don't blame him really...
05:49:31 <Gizmokid2005> the fact they took away the "freedom" to choose.
05:49:36 <alpha1beta> i don't either
05:49:43 <alpha1beta> thats stupid of freenode!
05:49:45 <toekin> the way they decided to "control" abuse was to ban an entire client domain
05:49:52 <toekin> real genius =D
05:50:08 * ChrisMorgan let his laptop hibernate from low battery by accident... hence here and back :P
05:50:31 <toekin> actually just a very lazy way of dealing with a spam/abuse issue
05:50:32 <Gizmokid2005> toekin: I agree completely. The least they could've done, was just allow them to pass the normal info like a client...which they did, but FN STILL told them to go away...
05:50:36 <Gizmokid2005> which REALLY makes no sense...
05:50:41 <Gizmokid2005> because that would remove the ban evading.
05:51:09 <ChrisMorgan> I'm sort of hoping that one of two things will happen:
05:51:44 <ChrisMorgan> a) the new freenode system (7 something it was, look in their blog) will allow special handling of Mibbit so that the proxy becomes invisible and their IP address gets used, etc.
05:51:53 <toekin> to be honest, mibbit really only has but so much responsibility in dealing with who uses the chat they host
05:52:27 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: Mibbit implemented it...but Freenode still rejected their use of the network :(
05:52:47 <alpha1beta> not really FREEnode now is it
05:52:50 <toekin> most likely (and I really only guessing) they wanted mibbit to step way over bounds which they weren't going to do
05:52:50 <ChrisMorgan> b) Mibbit will get the Java and/or Flash IRC system working (likewise, read their blog - the essentials of it are that it will look the same, but instead of going via mibbit.com with JS, it uses flash/java to talk directly to irc.freenode.net)
05:53:07 <toekin> thus it resulted in freenode giving them the finger
05:53:19 <alpha1beta> thats more than a finger man
05:53:51 <toekin> you can still use mibbit, you just need to host it
05:53:55 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: yep, I heard about that too, but FN was NOT happy about that, at all.
05:54:15 <alpha1beta> shows what changes when i don't come on here anymore
05:54:27 <toekin> at least as far as I know that's possible
05:54:28 <Gizmokid2005> alpha1beta: lol yeah
05:54:38 <alpha1beta> i only stopped on becuase i destroyed another site of mine and had to ask for help on #drupal
05:54:49 <alpha1beta> figured i'd stop in and say hi!
05:54:50 <ChrisMorgan> Why would Freenode care about it? It'll behave just like a normal IRC client, and sooo much better than the stop-gap client they put up.
05:55:10 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: destroyed a site with Drupal? How!?
05:55:12 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
05:55:18 <alpha1beta> failed upgrade
05:55:26 <alpha1beta> i am beginning to hate drupal
05:55:34 * Mir stabs alpha1beta
05:55:39 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: that's what nobody can figure out...FN is still throwing a fit about any form of Mibbit now.
05:55:47 <toekin> phpbb all the way
05:55:50 <toekin> ;)
05:55:57 <alpha1beta> MIR!
05:56:00 <ChrisMorgan> ahh... I've still got a niggling issue with one site over filter handling, but no-one's been able to help yet...
05:56:08 <Mir> alpha1beta!
05:56:08 <alpha1beta> buddy old pal! what's going on
05:56:16 <Mir> updated to 11.1
05:56:26 <Gizmokid2005> toekin: yep, phpBB/WP ;) that's my combo
05:56:54 <Gizmokid2005> they aren't integrated, but that's because of pure laziness to work with one of the integration plugins to get it to work.
05:57:18 <alpha1beta> 11.2 is due mid november and to support the faster ext4
05:57:43 <alpha1beta> mir: i've also started working on SusEEE, a specialized version of suse for the EEEpc
05:57:55 <alpha1beta> but enough spamming the channel
05:58:16 <Mir> i know
05:58:22 <Mir> lets take it to -ot
05:58:40 <Mir> get ur flipping but into -ot
05:58:43 <Mir> NAOW
05:58:55 <alpha1beta> i'm there...
05:59:29 *** Scriptdaemon (n=KennyW@cpe-76-83-207-236.dc.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
05:59:42 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Client Quit)
05:59:59 *** toekin has parted #portableapps ()
06:01:48 *** sancas has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
06:15:07 *** Espreon has quit ("WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!")
06:18:58 *** sancas_ has quit ("Saliendo")
06:55:10 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK
07:10:38 *** alpha1beta has parted #portableapps ()
08:17:57 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
08:19:45 *** Don_Miguel has quit ("Ex-Chat")
08:32:14 *** hyalian (n=Yathos@pc50.crypto.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) has joined #portableapps
08:32:30 <hyalian> aloha ;)
08:43:48 *** SteveLif (i=d4db5c09@gateway/web/freenode/x-fddcd48b64f58a24) has joined #portableapps
08:43:53 <SteveLif> Hi
08:45:41 *** SteveLif has quit (Client Quit)
08:57:27 *** hyalian has quit ("KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3364, sources date: 20090703, built on: 2009/07/21 15:34:35 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/")
09:44:31 *** MaienM|Sleep has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))
09:46:11 *** Horusofoz (n=Administ@219-90-225-232.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps
09:46:51 <Horusofoz> We are the champions.. We are the champions... Of the Geeks :D lol
10:23:00 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps ()
11:09:24 *** Horusofoz (n=Administ@219-90-225-232.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps
11:16:16 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps ()
11:16:59 *** Horusofoz (n=Administ@219-90-225-232.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps
11:22:36 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps ()
11:36:22 *** upnPAD has quit ("oi na")
11:39:02 *** Neoman (n=Neoman@41.238.215.58) has joined #portableapps
11:39:17 <Neoman> hi every1
11:55:07 *** ChrisMorgan (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps
11:55:08 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
11:55:08 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
11:58:18 *** Horusofoz (n=Administ@219-90-225-232.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps
12:00:41 <Horusofoz> Hey all :)
12:00:53 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Jeff :-)
12:02:49 <Horusofoz> Hey ChrisMorgan
12:03:02 <ChrisMorgan> There, responded to the GanttProject thing.
12:03:18 <ChrisMorgan> The directory is correct - it's just what GP is doing that's weird.
12:03:18 *** m-p{3} (n=unrealmp@modemcable241.4-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #portableapps
12:04:24 <Horusofoz> When the final come out I'm sure the source will reveal all:)
12:04:38 <ChrisMorgan> I could probably track it down now if I could be bothered.
12:05:06 <ChrisMorgan> As far as PortableApps.com development goes though I'm more interested in Inkscape and Data Crow at the moment...
12:05:16 <Horusofoz> :)
12:05:20 <Horusofoz> :):):):)
12:05:27 <ChrisMorgan> 'Tis a nice looking program.
12:06:23 <ChrisMorgan> Java app... should be fairly straightforward with CPALT.
12:07:14 * ChrisMorgan is looking forward to John getting back from CCA so he can give everyone and especially him his (and his) development on the launcher... ain't pronoun confusion fun :P
12:07:32 <Horusofoz> Great to hear. The original author of the app has posted expressing interest in it being a portableapp
12:07:56 <Horusofoz> Anyone get any vid of JTH at the CCA?
12:08:40 <ChrisMorgan> I presume he was featured in the live feed... I haven't been able to find other than the live thing though.
12:08:53 <Horusofoz> He said in his post that he gave shout out to you devs which is cool but I wanna see his face after the 4 award haul:)
12:08:54 <ChrisMorgan> Hopefully it'll be available for download somewhere sometime.
12:09:11 <ChrisMorgan> As I said earlier... so much for "12 winners" :P
12:09:56 <Horusofoz> ??
12:10:26 <ChrisMorgan> http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/
12:10:45 <ChrisMorgan> "4,875 nominees. 85 finalists. 12 winners."
12:10:49 <ChrisMorgan> s/12/9/ :D
12:10:54 <Horusofoz> Oh and do you know of a decent cd\dvd burning freeware/OSS app I could use to copy an unprotected dvd movie? I just uninstalled Nero 8Oh yeah I get it
12:11:25 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: in linux, I do, but for Windows... InfraRecorder is the best you get.
12:11:38 <ChrisMorgan> And it just doesn't work with some older drives.
12:12:21 <ChrisMorgan> And recording an audio CD it doesn't re-encode it to 44KHz, whatever kbps, etc. etc. so unless you know /exactly/ what you're doing, you can't get it to burn an audio CD
12:12:40 <Horusofoz> Infrarecorder won't work with DVDs atm:(
12:13:02 <ChrisMorgan> Huh? I thought it burned DVDs fine?
12:13:14 <ChrisMorgan> They say so...
12:13:38 <ChrisMorgan> Even a DL DVD
12:15:12 <Horusofoz> http://forums.infrarecorder.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=426#p1115
12:15:59 <ChrisMorgan> That looks like an error for a specific model?
12:17:47 <Horusofoz> same thing is happening for me on my LG burner so I think it's a bug with the software generally
12:18:28 <Horusofoz> I've tried CDBurnerXP and ImgBurn and both can only do it with a couple procedures instaed of one straight forward one
12:25:35 *** m-p{3} has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.1/20090715094852]")
12:31:41 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: should I call it a media cataloger or a media cataloguer in the help file and appinfo file?
12:33:17 <Horusofoz> Well we'er Aussies so go for the latter and we can have a giggle if anyone points it out as a spelling mistake when it comes to final release testing stage:) What you think?
12:33:33 <ChrisMorgan> I think that I'll do it in English... not American :D
12:33:45 <ChrisMorgan> (Should I make the u a captial U? :P)
12:35:34 <Horusofoz> :D
12:45:37 <Horusofoz> Ok in the extremely unlikely case where someone may trawl the logs for pointers on good cd\dvd burning freeware I'm going to recommend Ashampoo Burning Studio Free
12:46:03 <ChrisMorgan> Dad finds the Ashampoo one good.
12:48:15 <ChrisMorgan> Not as bad as it could have been... I get a new test case scenario for CPALT: Data Crow stores its settings in a subdirectory of its execution directory, data.
12:50:20 <Horusofoz> So does that make it easier or harder to use? Also what version of Ashampoo is your dad using?
12:52:39 <ChrisMorgan> Different versions on different machines... we've used 5 (from a magazine, full version), 6 (free upgrade for free version!), and 8 free (as I remember it)
12:53:08 <ChrisMorgan> I like getting a new test case, I can work out something new for it (the functionality's already there, it's just a matter of testing it)
12:56:39 <ChrisMorgan> It's just as simple as a DirectoriesMove line... settings=%APPDIR%\DataCrow\data
13:03:25 *** Neoman has quit ("Later!")
13:04:15 <Horusofoz> Yeah... That seems.. real simple... Kinda like the Fibonacci numbers :p Well not quite that simple :D
13:04:42 <ChrisMorgan> Just moving it back and forth from Data\settings to App\DataCrow\data, that's all
13:08:48 <Horusofoz> K that's much easier to understand. Oh yeah for the hypothetical log trawler looking for burning freeware advice - Make sure you get Burning Studio 2009 . This is the freeware version which is not promoted on the main website but is a legitimate version nonetheless. Unusual promotion method but hey its quality software for free:)
13:11:17 <ChrisMorgan> Well, I seem to have got a basic launcher which should work. I haven't tested it at all to see if it leaves things behind anywhere yet..
13:11:30 <ChrisMorgan> Do you want a pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-release before I go to bed?
13:11:53 <Horusofoz> thanks for the offer but I'll wait till tomorrow. I gotta hit the hay soon myself
13:12:59 <ChrisMorgan> UPX can't do anything with it.
13:15:42 <ChrisMorgan> Thing #1 to do with Data Crow: change look and feel to "Windows" and restart (changes some things, but restart required to change window border etc. to native)
13:15:58 <ChrisMorgan> I should suggest that to the DC dev for Windows.
13:16:41 <Horusofoz> Sounds good:)
13:18:03 <Horusofoz> SPAM - http://portableapps.com/node/19832#comment-123899
13:20:05 <ChrisMorgan> installer is 18.5MB, 25.4MB installed.
13:20:16 <ChrisMorgan> Should I upload it or just get to bed?
13:20:34 <Horusofoz> Bed mate. Be spry for tomorrow. THanks again:)
13:23:11 <ChrisMorgan> OK, g'nite :-)
13:23:31 <Horusofoz> Nite
13:23:31 <ChrisMorgan> After I've done that I'll look at doing an plugin installer for its web thing. Should be straightforward.
13:23:42 <Horusofoz> :)
13:35:06 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps ()
13:47:51 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
14:52:34 *** Suiseiseki (n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps
15:16:32 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
15:16:34 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
15:18:29 *** ZerFEr (n=ZerFEr@217.194.116.85.dsl.manitu.net) has joined #portableapps
15:31:07 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving")
15:36:03 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SrgSiler|AFK
15:37:29 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005
15:50:15 *** pa_0373 (i=4aded316@gateway/web/freenode/x-9c37f4aa781d604a) has joined #portableapps
15:50:27 <pa_0373> hello
15:50:30 <pa_0373> is anyone here?
15:51:19 <Gizmokid2005> yes pa_0373
15:51:26 <Gizmokid2005> what can we help you with?
15:51:37 <pa_0373> If you have a moment, I keep having trouble with liberkey
15:52:09 <pa_0373> I install it once and everytime I take it to another PC I get "cannot load ASuite Data" and the menu comes up without any lists in it
15:52:48 <pa_0373> When I try to close it, I get a memory reference error as it's trying to write to 0000000 or something, and it won't close
15:52:59 <pa_0373> I have to terminate the process from task manager
15:53:40 <pa_0373> I can go into the apps folder and run the programs on their own, but ASUITE won't work
15:54:23 *** jkj1981 (i=ce4ada37@gateway/web/freenode/x-1de2dcd469046aac) has joined #portableapps
15:54:38 <jkj1981> hello
15:54:51 <pa_0373> hi
15:55:14 <jkj1981> have a ? about the clamwin antivirus program
15:55:36 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0373: we don't deal with liberkey
15:55:43 <Gizmokid2005> we are in NO way associated with them.
15:55:49 <jkj1981> when I try to download the updates, constantly get this message: ClamAV update process started at Fri Jul 24 11:00:55 2009
15:55:51 <Gizmokid2005> you'll have to talk to them about it pa_0373
15:56:01 <pa_0373> sorry, i may be in the wrong room
15:56:16 <Gizmokid2005> jkj1981: I'm not really sure on that one, and I don't believe there are any other people here who know CW...you might want to post in the forums
15:56:34 <jkj1981> ok, thank you
15:56:40 *** jkj1981 has quit (Client Quit)
15:56:41 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0373: yeah, we don't deal with liberkey at all, and are NO way associated with them.
15:56:56 <pa_0373> i understand. Anyone ever messed with it?
15:57:03 <pa_0373> It's pretty cool, when it works. lol
15:57:33 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0373: no. Their software was for the longest time a blatant ripoff of our work here.
15:57:39 <Gizmokid2005> and most of their stuff is illegal to begin with.
15:57:53 <pa_0373> really?? I don't know any of the history of it.
15:57:59 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0373: yeah.
15:58:24 <pa_0373> That's lame. Do yall have a similar app?
15:58:37 <pa_0373> Cause theres isn't exactly the most portable.
15:58:39 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0373: I'm not sure what app you are using...we have our own menu.
15:58:48 <Gizmokid2005> you can find it all at http://portableapps.com
15:58:58 <pa_0373> oh wierd. Now i know how I got here.
15:59:10 <pa_0373> I googled the error I had, and a forum entry on your site came up
15:59:14 <pa_0373> strange
16:00:04 <pa_0373> man that does mean they were seriously ripping yall off...
16:00:13 <pa_0373> is your guys' code open source or something?
16:00:51 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0373: yeah, they are. and yup, all of our CODE is oss, the logos aren't, they are TM'd but yes, all our code is oss
16:00:53 <Gizmokid2005> under the GPL
16:01:31 <pa_0373> so did they jack your code?
16:02:28 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0373: basically
16:02:33 <Gizmokid2005> and they didn't publish the source either
16:03:14 <pa_0373> that sucks. Someone should tip off gizmodo.com about it, cause that's where liberkey got a big boost in popularity or whatever.
16:03:25 <pa_0373> try and get gizmodo to post about your app ;)
16:04:04 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0373: we have been posted there, and there was a recent article, i don't remember which site, but boosted LIberkey and us and a few others that got reamed for promoting LK
16:05:03 <pa_0373> right on.
16:05:38 <pa_0373> I'm DLing your app now, but doesn't look like there's as much installable software or whatever
16:05:49 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler
16:06:18 <dbdii407> pa_0373: We only package FOSS. Anything else would be illegal.
16:06:45 <dbdii407> FOSS meaning Free and Open Source Software. For the free software, we only make the launchers.
16:08:19 <pa_0373> ah, so they are packaging stuff that is free but not necessarily open source as well?
16:08:45 <pa_0373> Given the choice and no other information, it looks like liberkey has way more software packages.
16:09:06 <pa_0373> but i'd rather have something that works, and all i really care about is portable thunderbird
16:09:39 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0373: yeah, most of theirs are illegal, and john is quick about the main apps such as FF, TB, and PIdgin when updates come out
16:10:25 <pa_0373> how so are they illegal?
16:13:02 <dbdii407> They are invading some licenses that say they cannot do what they are doing.
16:14:11 <pa_0373> interesting
16:14:26 *** pa_0373 has quit ("Page closed")
16:20:39 <Gizmokid2005> dbdii407: you mean evading
16:21:03 <dbdii407> Yea you know. I cannot spell lately. :/
16:31:32 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK
16:36:49 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps
16:41:53 *** Scriptdaemon (n=KennyW@cpe-76-83-207-236.dc.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
16:42:00 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Client Quit)
16:42:18 *** jnw222 (n=jnw222@64-18-122-30.adsl.catt.com) has joined #portableapps
16:43:48 *** zmj|Centrikle (n=user@pD9E6E46A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps
16:44:06 *** ZerFEr has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
16:44:06 <zmj|Centrikle> FF Portable (3.5) is far too slow for normal use
16:44:18 <zmj|Centrikle> it constantly freezes for long periods of time
16:44:27 *** ZerFEr (n=ZerFEr@217.194.116.85.dsl.manitu.net) has joined #portableapps
16:45:18 <jnw222> hmm
16:46:33 <zmj|Centrikle> only extensions are vimperator and adblock+
16:46:48 <zmj|Centrikle> both of which are quite small, so I don't think that's the issue
16:52:56 *** Sean (i=43566850@gateway/web/freenode/x-a35c5463650de015) has joined #portableapps
16:53:24 *** Sean is now known as Guest76170
16:53:35 <Guest76170> Portable Apps Backup failed
16:53:52 <Guest76170> where's the first place I should check to fix?
16:56:38 <Guest76170> saw in some docs that failure related to temp directories. If so how to check temp folders and temp folder vars?
16:59:03 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps
16:59:31 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
16:59:33 <GizmoBot> ...
17:00:21 *** AppGuy has quit (Client Quit)
17:00:35 *** Guest76170 has quit ("Page closed")
17:02:35 *** dbdii407 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
17:03:00 *** dbdii407 (n=dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps
17:38:11 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
17:38:21 *** Suiseiseki (n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps
17:43:09 *** SteveLamerton (n=SteveLam@91.125.130.78) has joined #portableapps
17:43:43 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
17:45:50 <jnw222> hi
17:47:51 *** Oni-Neoxes (n=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps
17:52:23 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Client Quit)
17:53:46 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
17:54:02 <SteveLamerton> Good news with the awards :)
17:54:13 <jnw222> yep
17:54:25 <ZachThibeau> yup :D
17:55:28 <zmj|Centrikle> it doesn't make sense to defrag a flash drive, does it
17:55:42 <SteveLamerton> Nope
17:55:55 <jnw222> never
17:56:01 <jnw222> just wears it down
17:56:07 <jnw222> A LOT
17:56:11 <ZachThibeau> not usually, better to scan for errors occationally
17:56:13 <zmj|Centrikle> yeah
17:56:16 <zmj|Centrikle> hm
17:56:27 <zmj|Centrikle> still can't figure out why FF portable is so slow
17:57:28 <ZachThibeau> well it's an uncompressed program (agreement with Mozilla we have requires it to be such) and if you browse a lot bookmarks etc can slow the startup time or if you have a slwo flash drive in general
17:58:32 <zmj|Centrikle> so I should remove cached items?
17:58:38 <zmj|Centrikle> clear the cache?
17:59:09 <ZachThibeau> sometimes it's good to do once in a while
17:59:33 <ZachThibeau> but you will need to relog into websites if you set it to remember your password if you go that route
17:59:45 <zmj|Centrikle> hm
17:59:47 <zmj|Centrikle> not a problem
18:00:19 <zmj|Centrikle> it seems more like this drive has a problem with multiple apps running from it
18:00:28 <zmj|Centrikle> and it's quite slow
18:04:09 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK
18:04:47 *** jnw222 has quit ("goodbye FOREVER")
18:20:28 *** zmj|Centrikle has quit (" Alt-F4")
18:20:32 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as Zachthibeau
18:23:36 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005
18:50:19 <Bensawsome> guys whadya think? http://portableapps.com/node/20082#comment-123920
18:50:47 *** SergentSiler is now known as srgsiler|afk
18:51:32 <SteveLamerton> Sounds ok to me
19:05:17 *** ptmb (i=5154c6e7@gateway/web/freenode/x-6a9fced4f334a3d0) has joined #portableapps
19:05:24 <Zachthibeau> ptmb: howdy :D
19:05:37 <Bensawsome> ohai ptmb
19:05:37 <ptmb> Hello Zachthibeau and everybody else.
19:05:45 <ptmb> Hello Bensawsome.
19:05:54 <Bensawsome> oh and Zachthibeau you were mentioned on th ccalive awards last nite :D
19:06:03 <Zachthibeau> O_O
19:06:08 <Zachthibeau> link me :D
19:06:10 <ptmb> o_O
19:06:12 <Bensawsome> when john came up for the best project one
19:06:21 <Zachthibeau> LINK ME :D
19:06:21 <Bensawsome> he said id like to thanks the zachs
19:06:28 <Bensawsome> which i presume he meant yhou and the other one
19:06:34 <Bensawsome> i dont know where one is
19:06:42 <Zachthibeau> :/
19:06:42 <Bensawsome> it was a live feed
19:06:50 <Zachthibeau> ahh ok
19:07:44 <Bensawsome> you can prbly google and find it Zachthibeau
19:07:55 <Zachthibeau> prollu
19:07:59 <Zachthibeau> **pyolly
19:08:01 <Zachthibeau> arghgh
19:08:02 <Zachthibeau> D:
19:08:05 <Zachthibeau> I can't type
19:08:22 <Bensawsome> lol
19:08:48 * Zachthibeau feels somewhat famous
19:09:12 <Bensawsome> lolololololol
19:10:53 * SteveLamerton wonders if he got a mention
19:11:17 <Zachthibeau> probably :D
19:11:38 <SteveLamerton> Hard to know without a copy of the video!
19:11:43 <Zachthibeau> I know :(
19:11:58 <Zachthibeau> I found the site but not a recording anywhere from last night
19:12:46 *** srgsiler|afk is now known as SergentSiler
19:16:13 *** ZerFEr has quit (Client Quit)
19:19:12 <Bensawsome> SteveLamerton i think you did too
19:19:12 <Bensawsome> from what i remember
19:19:17 <SteveLamerton> :D
19:21:04 * SteveLamerton joins Zach in his famousness
19:21:33 <Zachthibeau> :D
19:24:35 <Zachthibeau> SteveLamerton: welcome to the club partner
19:24:42 <SteveLamerton> :D Thankyou :)
19:27:49 *** SergentSiler_ (n=Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps
19:28:06 *** SergentSiler has quit (Nick collision from services.)
19:28:11 *** SergentSiler_ is now known as SergentSiler
19:31:42 *** SergentSiler_ (n=Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps
19:32:09 *** SergentSiler has quit (Nick collision from services.)
19:32:10 *** SergentSiler_ is now known as SergentSiler
19:42:43 *** SteveLamerton has quit ("Leaving")
19:50:17 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK
19:54:14 *** dragonmage (i=newdrago@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
19:54:16 *** dragonmage has quit (Remote closed the connection)
20:18:34 *** zmj|Centrikle (n=user@pD9E6E46A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps
20:18:40 <zmj|Centrikle> VLC is loading too slowly
20:19:03 <zmj|Centrikle> I think my drive is going to shit
20:22:16 *** ptmb is now known as ptmb|away
20:22:31 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler
20:36:08 *** zmj|Centrikle has quit (" Alt-F4")
20:42:04 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@74.46.65.132) has joined #portableapps
20:45:09 <AppGuy> Gizmokid2005, I was running songbird and it did the whole "The watched folder is missing and blah blah blah" so i restarted it and i had no music files but it had the right drive letter and stuff
20:45:32 <Gizmokid2005> AppGuy: grr, I had that issue, but my music was still there
20:45:43 <Gizmokid2005> I think there is some path that I"m missing that needs to be updated, but I don't know why..
20:45:58 <Gizmokid2005> have you tried to change the drive letter to your original one?
20:46:45 <AppGuy> That's the thing my drive letter is F: and that is the one it has but it can't find anything
20:47:04 <Gizmokid2005> was that the one that you setup the watch folders on?
20:47:18 <AppGuy> yeah
20:47:24 <AppGuy> well...
20:47:36 <AppGuy> im not exactly sure
20:47:46 <Gizmokid2005> Hmm. k
20:47:58 <Gizmokid2005> can you send your profile folder to me?
20:48:17 <AppGuy> um, sure but why?
20:48:23 <Gizmokid2005> I think my PC is solid, for the most part.
20:48:36 <Gizmokid2005> so I can check the paths in the sql files and whatnot.
20:48:44 <AppGuy> ok
20:48:46 <Gizmokid2005> see if I can find the missing path
20:48:53 <Gizmokid2005> what was the original drive letter you used?
20:48:58 <Gizmokid2005> do you remember?
20:49:16 <AppGuy> i think it was G: but im not sure
20:49:57 <Gizmokid2005> k
20:50:10 <Gizmokid2005> if you can include that for me too, email me at <nick>@gmail.com :)
20:52:11 *** ptmb|away is now known as ptmb
20:57:11 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps
21:00:06 <AppGuy> ok Gizmokid2005, just sent and you should get it soon
21:00:48 <Gizmokid2005> thanks AppGuy
21:03:16 <Gizmokid2005> got it twice, thanks AppGuy :)
21:03:56 <AppGuy> the first time it was slow so i sent it a second not know both would be sent
21:04:32 <Gizmokid2005> it's ok :)
21:06:14 *** user___ (i=48045260@gateway/web/freenode/x-170c6fe5dd8c1cd6) has joined #portableapps
21:08:00 <user___> hi guys - got a suggestion, to enable application groups "package" downloads, like, a zip-file that has ALL "accessibility"-programs in it, or ALL "utilities"-programs in the archive - not necessarily to install them right away (or maybe as additional option) but my main-idea is to "get them all down at once" instead of DL them 1 by 1
21:09:47 *** screen (i=screen@shellium/member/djbudz) has joined #portableapps
21:10:02 <Gizmokid2005> user___: that's a good idea, make a suggestion in the forums.
21:10:19 <Zachthibeau> but if we do it won't be zip files ;)
21:10:33 <Zachthibeau> but yes a good idea
21:11:09 *** screen has parted #portableapps ()
21:11:15 <Gizmokid2005> Zachthibeau: in any case we can't do it...only JTH can
21:11:20 <user___> *smiles* doesnt matter - as long as it's "unpackeable" into subdir X or allows to "make checkmarks which of the following apps of package UTILITIES you want to installed into PortableApps subdir N"
21:11:28 <Bensawsome> ya plus it takes a long time to package them....
21:11:38 <Gizmokid2005> user___: John might even consider doing something like that in a LIVE installer
21:11:38 <Bensawsome> and plus they would have to be updated....
21:11:42 <Gizmokid2005> which would be cool
21:11:49 <Gizmokid2005> not /quite/ as helpful, but still would work :)
21:11:52 <Gizmokid2005> and then they'd be up to date
21:11:58 <Bensawsome> yarly :D
21:13:59 <user___> allrighty - just want to shoot that off in here, am sure quite a lot of folks would appreciate that 'time-saving' option
21:14:29 <Gizmokid2005> user___: yeah, post it in the general discussion forum on the site.
21:14:35 <Gizmokid2005> the person in charge can comment there :)
21:15:43 <user___> ok, will do..thx, have a great weekend!
21:18:18 <Gizmokid2005> you too user___ :)
21:18:43 *** user___ has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
21:27:30 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
21:30:03 *** AppGuy has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
21:37:30 *** RetLaw (n=RetLaw@082-146-105-208.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) has joined #portableapps
21:39:24 *** RetLaw has quit (Client Quit)
21:40:30 *** RetLaw (n=RetLaw@082-146-105-208.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) has joined #portableapps
22:06:51 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK
22:14:39 *** RetLaw has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org")
22:15:12 *** RetLaw (n=RetLaw@082-146-105-208.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) has joined #portableapps
22:17:33 *** ptmb has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
22:34:41 <Bensawsome> wow long netsplit o_0
22:39:52 *** abc528 has quit ("Quitte")
22:43:49 <Zachthibeau> lol
23:09:55 *** RetLaw has quit (Connection timed out)
23:16:52 *** Oni-Neoxes (n=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps
23:27:07 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.241.235) has joined #portableapps
23:48:28 *** Wes_Tech_Nerd (i=621952b4@gateway/web/freenode/x-5778d74c609f1b98) has joined #portableapps
23:48:44 * Wes_Tech_Nerd sighs
23:49:11 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> da.bomb has been a no show everytime im on
23:49:26 <Oni-Neoxes> hmm.
23:51:54 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps
23:53:53 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> Hey KevinPorter
23:54:01 <KevinPorter> Evenin'.
23:58:54 *** rcmaehl (n=rcmaehl@96-28-92-129.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps
23:59:03 <rcmaehl> did you guys check out my app?