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01:16:19 <JacobMastel> Yay I have internet again.
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01:19:28 <Nancy> zach you here?
01:19:36 <Bensawsome> ohasi JacobMastel :D
01:19:48 <Nancy> heya ben :)
01:20:05 <Nancy> ben is zach around?
01:20:13 <Bensawsome> dunno
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01:20:31 <Nancy> lol
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01:21:57 <JacobMastel> How goes it ben?
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01:40:38 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
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01:54:39 <Bensawsome> oh sry JacobMastel i was doin homework. it goes good. ^_^
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02:31:07 <GizmoBot> zachthibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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02:49:24 <pa_5040> Hi, I'm trying to ascertain how portable apps would perform speedwise vs. having them on my hard drive?
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02:53:42 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
02:53:42 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
02:53:54 <TimClark> pa_5040: are you still here ?
02:54:07 <pa_5040> Yes I am
02:54:17 <TimClark> The apps will almost always run faster from a hard drive
02:54:35 <TimClark> then from a flash drive, it's just the nature of the beast
02:54:50 <pa_5040> Thanks. Is the lag noticeable on a flash drive?
02:54:57 <TimClark> and of course i mean an internal harddrive not a usb harddrive
02:55:04 <pa_5040> Right
02:55:07 <TimClark> pa_5040: I would say yes
02:55:26 <pa_5040> Do you know when a Linux OS will be available?
02:55:44 <TimClark> no, sorry, *nix is not my thing
02:56:08 <TimClark> I think if you search the forums there are links to some
02:56:26 <pa_5040> A friend once put Ubuntu on a flash drive for my notebook and it seemed to run okay.
02:56:29 <TimClark> but we don't make one ourselves
02:56:50 <pa_5040> Okay I'll look (or just ask my friend for another favor ...)
02:57:00 <TimClark> good luck
02:57:07 <pa_5040> Thanks! g'night
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05:27:10 <pa_4991> Hi
05:27:35 <pa_4991> I updated Firefox Portable, and all my Favourites and Cookies are gone. Can i get them back?
05:31:23 <pa_4991> anyone there?
05:31:35 <Whibo> yesss
05:31:41 <dbdii407> Im sorry. pa_4991. I don't think you could.
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05:39:19 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
05:42:44 <ChrisMorgan> pa_4991: there's no reason why they should be gone. What version did you upgrade from, and which version to?
05:44:53 <pa_4991> puh
05:45:08 <ChrisMorgan> pardon?
05:45:11 <pa_4991> now it´s 3.5.1
05:45:16 <pa_4991> but before ..???
05:45:31 <ChrisMorgan> 3.5? 3.0.*? 2.0.*?
05:45:40 <Bensawsome> pa_4991 usually a backup of the bookmarks are made
05:45:44 <pa_4991> highter than 3
05:45:46 <Bensawsome> atleast that was true for 3.0
05:46:07 <Bensawsome> i dunno where it is in the portable one though
05:46:09 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not aware of any such issues for any version/s.
05:46:09 <pa_4991> \Data\profile\bookmarkbackups
05:46:14 <pa_4991> there are files
05:46:19 <Bensawsome> yep
05:46:22 <Bensawsome> there ya go :)
05:46:24 <pa_4991> *.json
05:46:27 <Bensawsome> atleast thats ur bookmarks :D
05:46:29 <pa_4991> and than?
05:46:33 <Bensawsome> hmm
05:46:42 <Bensawsome> mine were always html....
05:46:42 <pa_4991> they are looking not linke bookmarks
05:46:44 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look at some of the files
05:46:49 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: 3.5 switched to JSON
05:46:55 <Bensawsome> oooooh ok
05:46:56 <pa_4991> how can i make their way into my firefox
05:46:58 <ChrisMorgan> As part of the new JS engine etc.
05:47:26 <ChrisMorgan> pa_4991: take a look at some of them, they may not be right, can't say really - they may be a new skeleton
05:47:35 <ChrisMorgan> (rather than your bookmarks)
05:49:42 <pa_4991> that are my bookmarks
05:49:55 <pa_4991> but how can i make them work in firefox portable?
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05:50:14 <pa_4991> and are my cookies safed, too?
05:50:14 <ChrisMorgan> If they're there, they should be right.
05:50:33 <ChrisMorgan> Actually, open up the bookmark manager.
05:50:52 <ChrisMorgan> They may have just moved internally in 3.0 to 3.5 upgrade or something
05:51:09 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look in "Uncategorised" or whatever it is
05:53:17 <pa_4991> no, there aren´t any of my bookmarks, only the firefox standard
05:54:25 <pa_4991> i can import my old ones - with date of the *.json files, but after import -> my bookmarks don´t are there
05:55:19 <pa_4991> firefox asks before import - "really, all actual bookmars will be gone" -> but there aren´t gone. Still the standard firefox bookmars are thre
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06:00:04 <|ChrisMorgan|> Hmm... I can't seem to identify, server responds "No services can currently be detected"
06:00:35 <pa_4991> ;(
06:00:51 <|ChrisMorgan|> Did you say anything after "firefox asks before import" etc.?
06:01:14 <pa_4991> yes
06:01:29 <pa_4991> i went to the bookmark manager
06:01:45 <pa_4991> than import bookmarks
06:02:12 <pa_4991> than restore
06:03:13 <pa_4991> Firefox says: "that will replace all bookmarks with the backup"
06:04:00 <pa_4991> then i get happy -> that´s what i want. But Firfox doesn´t - after klicken on the O.k.-Buttom all is the same like before
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06:04:20 <pa_4991> no - not like before
06:04:39 <pa_4991> if i delete the standard-firefox bookmarks, they will be there after that process
06:05:00 <pa_4991> but, if i look into the json-files(with a texteditor) i see my bookmarks
06:05:19 <pa_4991> an i hadn´t any standardbookmarks in my bookmarks
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06:07:03 <o0Pascal0o> i don´t know, if i had before the english version of firefox portable - now i have the german one
06:07:09 <o0Pascal0o> can that be the problem?
06:11:49 <|ChrisMorgan|> Hmm... doubt it, but it's possible.
06:11:54 <|ChrisMorgan|> remotely...
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06:15:08 <o0Pascal0o> i try to update to the english version
06:15:25 <o0Pascal0o> and dan export the bookmarks in html
06:15:39 <o0Pascal0o> and my cokies?
06:15:47 <o0Pascal0o> are they saved, too?
06:16:08 <ChrisMorgan42> I really can't tell. Your problem is so weird that I really can't say...
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06:22:38 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... still can't identify
06:22:49 <ChrisMorgan> Still saying services aren't there, can't find any user called NickServ...
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06:24:14 <o0Pascal0o> And where are they normally saved - the cookie-files?
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06:25:06 <Guest18170> Services are back up :-)
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06:26:01 <ChrisMorgan> OK, there, finally... :-)
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06:40:50 <Jacobe> why upnpad why?
06:56:42 <o0Pascal0o> Where are they normally saved - the cookie-files?
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07:45:13 <alpha1beta> anyone alive in here?
07:46:22 <alpha1beta> oh well, just wanted to stop in and say CONGRADS GUYS you won (and now i forget exactly what it is you won) :P
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10:29:00 <pa_6583> What is the best way to make non-portable applications portable? Should I use JPEportable or something like that?
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11:03:48 <GizmoBot> ...
11:50:56 <pa_6583> Hello? Is anybody awake?
11:51:12 <ChrisMorgan> If you have a question, please ask it
11:51:24 <ChrisMorgan> If you already did so, sorry, I missed it when KVIrc crashed
11:51:44 <ChrisMorgan> ah
11:51:59 <pa_6583> Here it is again. What is the best way to make non-portable applications portable? Should I use JPEportable or something like that?
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11:52:09 <GizmoBot> sar3th sets mode +ohai all
11:52:11 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look at the field guide
11:52:39 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/14868
11:53:03 <pa_6583> I see. Thank you for the link. I will try to see.
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12:10:10 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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12:48:24 <pa_3998> help
12:49:00 <pa_3998> why do my icons not show up in my menu
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12:51:35 <kennybro> what is CTCP VERSION
12:52:29 <kennybro> 1.5.2
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14:30:06 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> g-morning all
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14:37:46 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> there, had to change my channel over to this nick
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15:26:31 <mczack26> Hi everyone
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16:02:43 <mczack26> Hey guys, does anyone have a portable version of spotify in the works?
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16:04:11 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
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16:04:51 <mczack26> ...
16:07:54 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> mczack26: if it's not in the forums when you do a search, then probably not
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17:22:57 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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19:38:26 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
19:38:26 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
19:39:49 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark :)
19:41:52 <TimClark> hi Gizmokid2005 , there you are, just the guy i'm looking for
19:42:37 <Gizmokid2005> Oh? what can I do for ye TimClark?
19:42:42 <TimClark> pm
19:42:58 <Gizmokid2005> sure
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20:04:27 <TimClark> Of course Gizmokid2005 , I should be a good and supportive Mod/Op and test using your Kvirc at home :D
20:04:43 <Gizmokid2005> lol, you should TimClark, but I won't force it upon you :)
20:06:02 <TimClark> Well, if i do want to use something other than WebCrap at home i might as well help you out with testing
20:07:19 <TimClark> as long as I can block their CTCP requsts with it, they have no right to know what client i am using
20:11:12 <TimClark> Does your client do that Gizmokid2005 , i don't recall ?
20:11:20 <Gizmokid2005> yep
20:11:22 <TimClark> I think you said it does
20:12:31 <Gizmokid2005> it does
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20:31:06 <TimClark> Ok guys i'm going to get disconnected so, so by all
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20:56:27 <Mokura> Help - I've been trying to see exactly HOW portableapps replaces the folder icons for Documents, Music, etc., but there don't seem to be any desktop.ini files anywhere.
20:56:54 <Mokura> I have "show hidden files" enabled. I realize I can return all folders to default by deleting the icons themselves, but I was hoping there'd be a setting to change somewhere, in case something goes wrong.
21:04:13 <Gizmokid2005> Mokura: there are Desktop.ini files in every folder of mine.
21:04:28 <Mokura> That's strange, I don't see them at all
21:04:43 <Suiseiseki> show system hidden items
21:04:49 <Mokura> However, I check the attributes for the folders, and they have a grey checkmark in read-only
21:04:50 <Mokura> hmm
21:05:19 <Suiseiseki> they are marked with the system attribute
21:05:32 <Gizmokid2005> Mokura: they are there, I can assure you
21:05:37 <Mokura> I know
21:05:45 <Mokura> I just have to get TO them is all.
21:05:59 <Suiseiseki> "Hide pretected operatinf system files"
21:06:04 <Suiseiseki> that is the optn
21:06:19 <Mokura> OH.
21:06:20 <Mokura> Okay.
21:06:29 <Suiseiseki> then you will see them
21:06:32 <Mokura> Thanks, I was looking for the wrong wording
21:06:51 <Mokura> Derp, reboot time.
21:06:54 <Mokura> Thanks for the help!
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23:07:43 <Guest25582> SergentSiler, you there?
23:07:56 <SergentSiler> ya
23:08:04 <SergentSiler> Guest25582, id :P
23:08:08 <Guest25582> pm?
23:08:14 <SergentSiler> sure
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23:26:12 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
23:26:18 <Gizmokid2005> why hello there TimClark
23:26:23 <Gizmokid2005> is it true, using kvirc?
23:26:43 <TimClark> yes, it's a little different
23:26:51 <TimClark> :D but for you, i will try
23:27:12 <Gizmokid2005> lol thanks :)
23:27:19 <Gizmokid2005> what version?
23:27:34 <TimClark> don't think i like these Kvirc smilies though
23:28:17 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, some are a bit odd, you can disable them you know.
23:28:50 <TimClark> cool, you can tell me about that later, for now i should work with defaults
23:29:07 <Gizmokid2005> sounds like a plan
23:29:58 <TimClark> this is weider than when i tried chatzilla way back when :O
23:30:38 <Gizmokid2005> lol sorry TimClark
23:30:43 <Gizmokid2005> but it does do what it's supposed to
23:30:58 <Gizmokid2005> and if you look at the recent tickets, MOST things seem to be feature requests, that most people probably won't use.
23:32:30 <TimClark> features, oohhh , i like features :O
23:32:43 <Gizmokid2005> lol
23:32:43 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
23:32:59 <Gizmokid2005> https://svn.kvirc.de/kvirc/report/2 <-- I mean really. KVIrc has their crap together :D
23:33:14 <TimClark> and of course, no matter what, it's NOT webCrap :D
23:33:24 <jnw222> yep
23:33:29 <Gizmokid2005> that's for sure :D
23:33:39 <TimClark> but i still can't use it at work :(
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23:33:55 <Gizmokid2005> yeah :(
23:34:53 <TimClark> oh, well, at work i should be working anyway :P
23:35:00 <Gizmokid2005> lol I hear ya
23:37:56 <TimClark> hey, my unaffilated cloak works now ! :O
23:38:08 <TimClark> never worked before
23:38:31 <ZachThibeau> cool :)
23:38:36 <Gizmokid2005> well, before you were using mibbit and I think that overrides it maybe?
23:38:38 <ZachThibeau> Hi TimClark btw :)
23:38:53 <Gizmokid2005> because you have to connect and it assigns the host, then you login
23:39:17 <TimClark> webcrap did not allow the cloak either,
23:39:25 <TimClark> and hello ZachThibeau
23:40:08 <Gizmokid2005> of course not.
23:40:14 <ZachThibeau> wow something is causing lag on my end... wait nm xD just OpenOffice I am downloading
23:40:23 <TimClark> i forgot i even had it :O
23:42:49 <TimClark> ok Gizmokid2005 i am sure i will have many more questions for you about this later
23:43:00 <Gizmokid2005> haha, I should be here.
23:43:04 <Gizmokid2005> no problems.
23:43:15 <TimClark> I wonder why McAfee blocks irc connections by default
23:43:28 <TimClark> I thought it was just a setting at work
23:43:39 <TimClark> I had to turn it off
23:43:39 <Gizmokid2005> because it's McAfee??
23:43:58 <Gizmokid2005> there are a lot of things that I find quite...odd in quite a few aspects.
23:44:02 <TimClark> I mean it's easy enough to turn off
23:44:19 <TimClark> but of course it would be wrong to do that at work
23:44:42 <Gizmokid2005> right
23:44:55 <Gizmokid2005> but you are /researching/ right?
23:45:04 <TimClark> I mean, there might be some dangers involved with irc i'm sure
23:45:19 <TimClark> just like any other part of the web
23:45:26 <TimClark> and i have heard of irc attacks
23:45:32 <Gizmokid2005> the only ones I can think of are using DCC and maybe clicking malicious links...which you can also come across just browsing the web.
23:45:42 <TimClark> right
23:46:32 <TimClark> anyway, KvircPortable test seems to at least be functional, and i am supporting a pappsian by using it right
23:46:47 <Gizmokid2005> thanks TimClark :) and yes you are
23:46:57 <TimClark> back in a minute or 3
23:47:00 <Gizmokid2005> k
23:56:36 <TimClark> /back, have to record BigBrother
23:56:56 <TimClark> yeah, it's dumb, but kinda fun
23:56:59 <Gizmokid2005> lol
23:58:38 <TimClark> hummm, should i try to make kicking banning aliases :O
23:58:48 <TimClark> or are they built in ???
23:58:53 <Gizmokid2005> they are built in
23:58:55 <Gizmokid2005> /kb
23:58:57 <TimClark> just kidding guys, just kidding
23:58:59 <Gizmokid2005> :D
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