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01:59:42 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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02:00:45 <Guest55813> ohai
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02:01:19 <ZachThibeau> howdy taneth
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02:01:30 <taneth111> much been happening?
02:03:27 <ZachThibeau> not much, been working on my text editor and adding new options to it :)
02:05:18 <taneth111> whatever happened to MP3000? :P
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02:05:43 <taneth111> ohai Espreon
02:05:53 <ZachThibeau> taneth111: it's still in development ;)
02:06:00 <ZachThibeau> http://musicplay3000.com/
02:06:35 <Espreon> Hello taneth111.
02:06:59 <taneth111> my school's ISA server is down so I can't get any HTTP traffic D:
02:07:11 <ZachThibeau> all of that taneth111 has been coded all by me since maienm is away on vacation
02:07:14 <ZachThibeau> oh...
02:07:23 <SergentSiler> that sux D:
02:07:41 <ZachThibeau> well I have basic playlist support, I have video and audio support all natively on Linux, and windows :)
02:09:38 <taneth111> ah well, I've got a massively outdated version of miranda, plus they don't block port 8001 (freenode alt port)
02:15:14 <taneth111> is MP3000 still using the wxMediaCtrl or whatever it was?
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03:21:13 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a member of the GE Team (#GamingExposed | GamingExposed.Com) and a french translator of PortableApps.com
03:21:13 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a member of the GE Team (#GamingExposed | GamingExposed.Com) and a french translator of PortableApps.com
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04:24:28 <rcmaehl_dsi> congrads on 100 mil downloads
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06:21:19 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
06:21:19 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
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08:43:21 <pa_4847> help! Why sometime an app, which worked previously, suddenly stops working on same PC, same USB key, no changes!
08:44:52 <pa_4847> help! FYI, the application launches, the app info box is displayed, but then the full application never appears
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09:47:23 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
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14:13:36 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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16:48:01 <PatrickPatience> Why? Why, oh why?
16:48:03 <PatrickPatience> Smileys?
16:49:25 <Gizmokid2005> why hallo PatrickPatience
16:50:39 <Gizmokid2005> 7
16:50:43 <Gizmokid2005> odd...
16:50:44 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/node/20155#comment-124388
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16:53:21 <pa_2051> http://www.openmovieeditor.org/index.html is an open movie editor. can you make it portable
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16:53:45 <GizmoBot> ...
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16:54:02 <m-p{3}> Just noticed the smiley on the forums :O
16:54:40 <ZachThibeau> m-p{3}: I do too O_O
16:55:07 <ZachThibeau> ohai btw
16:55:48 <ZachThibeau> m-p{3}: http://portableapps.com/node/20155 this is why
16:56:18 <m-p{3}> Alright, and ohai
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16:57:14 <pa_7421> http://www.openmovieeditor.org/index.html is an open source movie editor. can you make it portable?
16:57:56 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7421: no
16:57:58 <Gizmokid2005> it's linux only.
16:58:17 <pa_7421> it can be made in to windows
16:58:27 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7421: The Open Movie Editor is currently NOT available for the Microsoft Windows Operating Systems, because it requires both Time, Effort and Skills, to modify the Open Movie Editor for Windows. If you are a capable Programmer and familiar with Windows and Open Source Software, and you want to help bring the Open Movie Editor to Windows, be sure to get in contact, help is very much appreciated.
16:59:10 <ZachThibeau> however you could try virtualdub portable which is a movie editor maybe not as advance but it works :)
16:59:11 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7421: we don't program applications, we just make current applications portable.
16:59:18 <ZachThibeau> and it has plugins
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16:59:36 <pa_7421> ok thanks
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17:54:46 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
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17:54:59 <GizmoBot> sar3th sets mode +ohai all
17:55:54 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
17:56:12 <SteveLamerton> Heya Gizmokid2005, would you mind popping to PM?
17:56:19 <Gizmokid2005> sure thing SteveLamerton
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17:59:36 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: do you know of any way to edit a hex file in nsis?
18:00:37 <SteveLamerton> Nope, I am afraid I don't, got a config file in hex?
18:01:04 <Gizmokid2005> more/less
18:01:18 <Gizmokid2005> Songbird has a .trees file, which stores for whatever reason, file names/path in it..
18:01:36 <Gizmokid2005> and in one spot the Drive is stored in it...and, well, it's not stored very pretty either...
18:01:56 <Gizmokid2005> editing it in NPP is possible, but I want to try to do it right in NSIS...and it's proving more trivial than I had anticipated
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18:02:12 <Gizmokid2005> that's the last thing I've got to figure out, as it looksl ike I've got more launcher re-writing to deal with :(
18:02:18 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh ok, I guess you could read it in binary mode (if NSIS has one) you would need to convert it yourself though
18:02:26 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: yeah...
18:02:36 <Gizmokid2005> and John hasn't been around when I have, so I haven't been able to pick his brain about it
18:02:38 <Gizmokid2005> hello GeoffShearsmith
18:02:57 <GeoffShearsmith> Hi Gizmokid
18:03:46 <SteveLamerton> Hi GeoffShearsmith
18:04:05 <GeoffShearsmith> Hi SteveLamerton
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18:07:39 <JohnTHaller> hola
18:08:00 <SteveLamerton> Heya JohnTHaller
18:08:22 <GeoffShearsmith> Hi JohnTHaller
18:08:43 <JohnTHaller> how goes it?
18:10:12 <SteveLamerton> Good for me, just sent you an email in fact ;) Not very exciting though!
18:11:09 <GeoffShearsmith> JTH: Going well. Did you enjoy the awards?
18:13:04 <JohnTHaller> yeah. pretty busy week
18:13:37 <GeoffShearsmith> JTH: I sent you an email 24/7 with a link to an update. Corrects a quit.blend file that appears in TEMP. Original thread http://portableapps.com/node/20012
18:14:23 <GeoffShearsmith> JTH: How big was your stand and did you have a group helping out?
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18:14:45 <Pericius> anyone using portable console?
18:15:09 <JohnTHaller> GeoffShearsmith: is there a new build for us to push out?
18:15:12 <Pericius> i'd like to know how can i add enviroment variables in it
18:15:35 <JohnTHaller> Pericius: do you mean command prompt portable? or console portable?
18:15:45 <Pericius> comman prompt portable
18:15:50 <Pericius> what, there is console portable?
18:15:55 <Pericius> hmm, will check that out too
18:16:40 <Pericius> and, mr. john, love u because of the portables... thanks!
18:16:45 <JohnTHaller> there is... on the development test page, I think: http://portableapps.com/development/test
18:17:27 <GeoffShearsmith> JTH: When a change had happened without saving, a quit.blend appeared on the host in TEMP. This is for a Restore Last Session command. I have it all corrected with the link I sent. I have redirected TEMP to data/settings in case the host also uses Blender so as not to disrupt the Restore Last Session
18:18:06 <JohnTHaller> for command prompt portable, check out the batch file in CommandPromptPortable\Data\batch and edit it to add any set SOMETHING=WHATEVER statements you'd like
18:18:32 <Pericius> um, console looks sweet...
18:18:58 <JohnTHaller> GeoffShearsmith: I don't see a build or anything, that just seems to be a link to a discussion
18:19:26 <JohnTHaller> Pericius: Yeah, console is more advanced and adds some cool options. Gonna go official with that one soon, too.
18:19:27 <GeoffShearsmith> The link was in the email. I can post it here now if you would like?
18:19:53 <JohnTHaller> oh wait, I found it. you sent it to my personal acct
18:20:30 <GeoffShearsmith> JTH: Yeah sorry, not sure where to send the updates etc?
18:20:31 <Gizmokid2005> hey JohnTHaller :)
18:20:52 <JohnTHaller> Got the file, GeoffShearsmith. I'll post it as an update soon. Sure that's fixed and no other issues introduced?
18:21:20 <JohnTHaller> Oh, we didn't have a booth at OSCON. It was just me walking around, meeting people, giving out flash drives and business cards. Made some good connections, though.
18:21:48 <SteveLamerton> Branded drives John?
18:24:13 <GeoffShearsmith> JTH: From what I can tell that covers the points raised by all testers. I did not notice any breaks anywhere. I am confident that it is good to go. Famous last words :). I don't mind others testing prior to an official release. The appinfo will require updating though.
18:24:21 <Pericius> hmm... console portable doesn't run...
18:24:26 <Pericius> xp, build 2600
18:24:41 <Pericius> pro
18:25:04 <JohnTHaller> GeoffShearsmith: You want to do it as a public test, just to be sure?
18:25:20 <JohnTHaller> SteveLamerton: Yup. I had 100 made to give out to promote it. My VISA card is unhappy.
18:25:55 <JohnTHaller> Pericius: Post a note in the thread. Or see if anyone noticed similar issues. Also be sure that it's installed to a path without spaces (common problem with development test apps).
18:26:15 <SteveLamerton> Ouch, I still I imagine that it was worth it, gives a very good impression :-)
18:26:57 <GeoffShearsmith> JTH: Yeah sure why not, I would rather have more people test that have to mess you around again. It looks poor if I have to do updates every few days because something else has been noticed. I read that the event was recorded but what about a photo montage of the event?
18:27:18 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. It was the talk of the party on Thursday night. Even signed a few (couple people asked).
18:27:48 <JohnTHaller> I think SF is gonna post photos and video soon. Ross over at SF is working on putting that all together this week.
18:28:55 <SteveLamerton> See, you are famous ;)
18:29:02 <GeoffShearsmith> JTH: Sweet look forward to seeing how the event was as I did not get the opportunity to see the live feeds.
18:30:34 <Gizmokid2005> Hey JohnTHaller, I've finally made headway with Songbird, I've been reduced to completely recreating the .ini every time the launcher runs since it's not updating it. Also, I found my issue with the error I was seeing, there is a .trees file which is a hex file that needs to be updated.
18:30:52 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: but I don't know how to edit the file in NSIS...so that's where I am now...any ideas on that one?
18:31:08 <Gizmokid2005> I can edit the file as needed in NP++ and it looks like the drive is stored only once...
18:31:11 <JohnTHaller> apparently. got to talk with bruce momjian (of postgreSQL fame) and his son was a big PA.c fan) :-)
18:31:54 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: You should be able to do a TextReplace on the hex file to change the drive letter
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18:32:55 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: that's what I was wondering...but since the way it's stored, at least in NP++ there are Null characters between the Drive letter and the colon, and I'm sure there will be more than one of the drive letter in the entire file..any ideas to get around that?
18:33:09 <Gizmokid2005> or is there a way to specify which characters exactly to modify?
18:33:23 <JohnTHaller> You can probably do the null characetrs in NSIS using a charcode or something
18:34:39 <Gizmokid2005> Hmm, that's somethign I'll have to look into...I know I've got the issue pinpointed
18:34:40 <Gizmokid2005> so
18:34:58 <Gizmokid2005> once I get that edited I should be almost set on a PR.
18:35:12 <Gizmokid2005> and I've got the PR splash you created a while ago for ryan so we're good there :)
18:40:45 <JohnTHaller> ok cool
18:41:06 <JohnTHaller> like to get that done soon. got to chat with one of the main songbird guys at the show and they like the portable idea
18:41:13 <Gizmokid2005> so I"ll get to work on that now, hopefully I can get that clobbered and get some tests/results from it and we should be almost set to go.
18:41:15 <Gizmokid2005> Cool, which one JohnTHaller?
18:42:28 <Pericius> i've put SET PATH=%..\mysql\bin;%PATH% in Data\settings\ConsolePortableSettings.ini and it doesn't work... any suggestions?
18:43:55 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, not sure if Console Portable can do that.
18:44:04 <JohnTHaller> Command Prompt Portable can if you follow the directions on its page.
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18:44:44 <Pericius> aww... no tabs then :(
18:46:48 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: which SB guy did you talk to?
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18:47:39 <JohnTHaller> don't remember. have a card in the other room
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19:06:37 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: what is the link to your drop.io with the launcher source that you helped me with for pidgin?
19:07:19 <SteveLamerton> Um, should be on gmail I think I sent it to you?
19:07:56 <Gizmokid2005> OH
19:07:57 <Gizmokid2005> right
19:07:57 <Gizmokid2005> :D
19:08:01 <Gizmokid2005> ty
19:08:05 <SteveLamerton> No problem :)
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19:16:06 <JohnTHaller> in case anybody missed the press release from wednesday: http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2009/7/prweb2692674.htm
19:17:43 <Gizmokid2005> I hadn't. That's awesome JohnTHaller :D
19:20:07 <SteveLamerton> Nice one JohnTHaller :)
19:21:17 <SteveLamerton> I like the fact that Toucan is on the pic ;)
19:28:37 <JohnTHaller> it's just a frame of the current homepage
19:29:45 <SteveLamerton> Ahhhh, I see!
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20:03:02 <pahelp> Hello
20:03:12 <pahelp> anybody here
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20:03:53 <pahelp> hoping that someone can help me with my problem
20:04:15 <Gizmokid2005> pahelp: ask away.
20:04:32 <pahelp> thanks, Suddenly my FF bookmarks disappeared . I have tried importing them from the bookmarback ups is will import but will dissapear after I restart Firefox. Where/how do I restore bookmarks in Fire Fox portable. I can't seem to find the info in the forums.
20:04:58 <pahelp> Thank you in advance
20:05:50 <Gizmokid2005> pahelp: it sounds like you have some corruption in your firefox profile
20:06:37 <pahelp> How do I fix that
20:07:05 <Gizmokid2005> pahelp: you can use a new profile and import your bookmarks that way
20:07:17 <Gizmokid2005> but, I believe there is a file that you can delete that will fix the issue.
20:07:38 <pahelp> do you know where I can find it
20:08:03 <pahelp> i greatly appreciate your help
20:08:09 <Gizmokid2005> pahelp: rename the places.sqlite file in your FirefoxPortable\Data\profile folder
20:08:12 <Gizmokid2005> with firefox closed
20:08:20 <Gizmokid2005> and relaunch firefox, and reimport your bookmarks and it should work.
20:08:41 <pahelp> what should I rename it to
20:09:53 <Gizmokid2005> places.sqlite.bkp
20:12:17 <pahelp> that's it? I'll give it a try
20:12:20 <Gizmokid2005> yup
20:12:49 <pahelp> thank you so much I am going to try it right now... thanks again
20:12:51 <pahelp> bye
20:13:05 <Gizmokid2005> bye palogbot
20:13:10 <Gizmokid2005> pahelp*
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20:25:54 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: which function is gettime already defined in?
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20:27:06 <JohnTHaller> no idea
20:27:31 <Gizmokid2005> k
20:37:30 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: shouldn't this hide the command prompt?? : ExecShell "open" "$EXEDIR\go.bat" "" "SW_HIDE"
20:43:44 <JohnTHaller> In theory. But I don't think it works. And you shouldn't use ExecShell anyway (it has software firewall issues)
20:44:03 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: Hmm, ok. What should I use to exec a bat and hide the cmd then?
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22:09:15 <rcmaehl> Firefox can't find the server at downloads.sourceforge.net.
22:09:24 <rcmaehl> I think it's crashed
22:12:00 <rcmaehl> Nvr Mind
22:12:06 <rcmaehl> I download from the other site
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22:26:08 <ChrisMorgan> Hello :-)
22:26:43 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I /really/ don't like the PortableApps.com "wins big" thing...
22:27:12 <ChrisMorgan> Nevertheless, well done :-)
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22:29:29 <ChrisMorgan> How're you going with the launcher?
22:30:15 <ChrisMorgan> My last comment concerning GanttProject Portable has indicated to me that I need to add something else to the launcher, just wondering whether I shuold do it or wait for you to get out the official test version and work with that.
22:31:16 <ChrisMorgan> Well, I've got to go to school now.
22:31:21 <jnw222|afk> ok
22:33:06 <ChrisMorgan> SMILEYS!
22:33:11 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks JohnTHaller :-)
22:33:14 <jnw222|afk> :)
22:34:19 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: I'm hoping to post it tomorrow for testing :-)
22:34:27 <jnw222|afk> cool
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23:39:06 <Gizmokid2005> AppGuy: I'm hoping to have a new version of SBP tonight or tomorrow
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23:39:25 <Oni-Neoxes> Gizmokid2005, SBP?
23:39:26 <AppGuy> awesome, will be waiting to test
23:40:45 <Gizmokid2005> Oni-Neoxes: songbird portable
23:40:47 <Gizmokid2005> k
23:40:48 <Gizmokid2005> bbs
23:40:51 <Oni-Neoxes> oh snap!
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