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00:41:18 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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00:43:17 <GizmoBot> jwyanze is an amateur app developer a Tester and theme Maker for PA (Portableapps.com)
00:43:31 <ZachThibeau> howdy jwyanze long time no see
00:44:01 <jwyanze> yea was on earlier today
00:44:13 <ZachThibeau> I was but not really at the same time
00:44:23 <ZachThibeau> twas setting up my new PC I bought today :)
00:44:25 <jwyanze> found error with pa under wine
00:44:41 <jwyanze> yea i was on but u was aft
00:45:29 <jwyanze> good for u my laptop isdead now i am stuck doing every thing on my slow linux desktop
00:46:11 <ZachThibeau> I still have my laptop but my old desktop was too old to use
00:46:34 <jwyanze> i dont have a choice now
00:47:09 <jwyanze> pentium 4 HT lol
00:49:30 <ZachThibeau> could be worse
00:49:49 <ZachThibeau> my old desktop was an 800mhz processor with 1gig of ram xD
00:50:05 <jwyanze> i have 512 with this
00:50:26 <ZachThibeau> yeah but it's probably newer ram
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00:50:37 <ZachThibeau> my desktop takes the old sd ram
00:50:47 <ZachThibeau> not my new one though :P
00:50:50 <jwyanze> i doubth it is very old
00:50:58 <jwyanze> lol
00:51:15 <ZachThibeau> my old desktop is about 12 years old ;)
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00:51:44 <ZachThibeau> too much to upgrade it so I replaced it
00:52:03 <jwyanze> lol
00:52:23 <ZachThibeau> cheaper in the long run too :P
00:52:30 <ZachThibeau> $250 CAD
00:52:32 <jwyanze> my laptop is about 7 and that is my powerfull system
00:52:44 <jwyanze> yea
00:53:03 <ZachThibeau> my laptop is already 1 year old :D
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02:24:38 <GizmoBot> ...
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02:25:50 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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02:33:46 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
02:37:31 <ZachThibeau> :D I fixed some bugs in my newest version of PChat
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02:41:25 <Horusofoz> Hey all
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02:50:05 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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03:08:50 <Horusofoz|AFK> lol
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03:09:50 <Horusofoz|AFK> How come my name didn't chang to Horusofoz|AFK when I did "nick/ Horusofoz|AFK"?
03:10:29 <Oni-Neoxes> isn't it "/nick"
03:11:24 <Horusofoz|AFK> Your right and I did originally do that and got the message "You are now known as Horusofoz|AFK" but appears my name is still the same:(
03:12:04 <Horusofoz|AFK> Using Pidgin portable if that helps?
03:12:18 <Oni-Neoxes> I see "Horusofuz|AFK"
03:12:33 <Oni-Neoxes> oops
03:12:46 <Oni-Neoxes> I see "Horusofoz|AFK"
03:13:58 <Horusofoz|AFK> Oh.. Still shows as Horusofoz on mine. My bad. THanks for the confirmation Oni :)
03:14:58 <Oni-Neoxes> No prob
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03:19:33 <GizmoBot> ...
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03:21:27 <ZachThibeau> *sigh* :/
03:21:39 <ZachThibeau> fixing bugs is harder than it looks
03:22:16 <ZachThibeau> PatrickPatience: I'm working on an XChat Fork and some how I broke the commandline -d for portability xD thats what I am trying to fix
03:23:07 <PatrickPatience> -d... who needs that. Pshhh. :-P
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03:23:34 <ZachThibeau> well atm it won't save anything but in APPDATA xD
03:24:25 <ZachThibeau> but it's killing me trying to find that :/
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03:39:05 <jwyanze> hey PatrickPatience
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03:42:32 <ChrisMorgan|Away> ZachThibeau: having analysed the situation carefully and looked at pertinent details, I've decided on the best solution for it.
03:42:37 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Use KVIrc.
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03:42:54 <ZachThibeau> I don't really like KVirc
03:43:04 <ChrisMorgan> Why not?
03:43:17 <ZachThibeau> I hate QT based applications, they don't feel right with me
03:43:28 <ChrisMorgan> Why? What's wrong with them?
03:43:35 <ChrisMorgan> Qt is really quite nice.
03:43:51 <ZachThibeau> I just prefer my GTK/WxWidgets powered applications I guess
03:44:34 <ChrisMorgan> I've known a couple of applications which I couldn't tell whether they wuz GTK, wxWidgets or Qt... and they turn out to be Qt when I look into it.
03:45:20 <ZachThibeau> I can
03:45:59 <ZachThibeau> I programmed with all of them and QT just doesn't really do native looking stuff very well
03:46:08 <ChrisMorgan> Huh!?
03:46:20 <ChrisMorgan> Qt's platform-specific look and feel is the best that I've seen!
03:46:29 <ZachThibeau> it's the worst imho
03:47:02 <ChrisMorgan> Why so?
03:47:11 <ZachThibeau> qt uses drawn custom controls GTK and WxWidgets uses native controls
03:47:19 <ChrisMorgan> GTKMM is not terribly good.
03:47:33 <ChrisMorgan> Where does it use custom controls?
03:47:43 <ChrisMorgan> On Windows or other?
03:48:15 <ZachThibeau> in how it impliments like say a button it creates a custom control to display that button instead of natively drawing it
03:48:16 <ChrisMorgan> Java... now that's just interesting. You can get it to look normal on Windows, but on other platforms I don't think it does so well.
03:48:30 <ZachThibeau> it's those little things I notice :P
03:48:48 <ChrisMorgan> QButton is just a button. It looks like a normal button at least on Windows.
03:49:02 <ZachThibeau> an ungly button on windows for me
03:49:24 <ChrisMorgan> Something weird about that... they're just standard buttons in my experience.
03:49:33 <ChrisMorgan> Though of course you can do something else if you really want...
03:49:37 <ZachThibeau> a fine example is VLC (now that is) the buttons don't fit in with the actual windows scheme
03:50:00 <ZachThibeau> back when they were using wxwidgets it was supurb and native looking
03:50:13 <ChrisMorgan> I can't comment on VLC.
03:50:16 <ChrisMorgan> What does it use now?
03:50:29 <ZachThibeau> it uses QT now since 0.99
03:50:43 <ChrisMorgan> K. I haven't tried anything later than 0.96.
03:52:03 <ChrisMorgan> And I don't think that 0.96 looks all that good either.
03:52:23 <ChrisMorgan> The worst bit is the use of a progress bar rather than a slider for the volume...
03:52:46 <ChrisMorgan> Which, on Vista, then lands you with that animated thing etc. as they didn't change that aspect of it to make it a "flat" progress bar...
03:53:41 <ChrisMorgan> "Not too far from you", and then it choses CacheBoy in the Netherlands... :/
03:54:09 <ZachThibeau> well I'm off to bed, I'm tired now
03:54:13 <ZachThibeau> night all
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04:23:19 <ChrisMorgan> Don't know what ZachThibeau was talking about... VLC looks more native now it's Qt than it did with wxWidgets. Proper slider, proper buttons, proper volume control, all round better and more native-looking.
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04:27:20 <Horusofoz> Looks a lot better with a skin :)
04:27:37 <ChrisMorgan> skin?
04:28:01 <ChrisMorgan> :O
04:28:24 <Horusofoz> VLC's skin that it packages with the appplication - Comes with VLC Portable by default
04:29:39 <PatrickPatience> Hi.
04:29:44 <ChrisMorgan> Ho!
04:30:43 <Horusofoz> Hey
04:30:48 <Bensawsome> ohai
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04:32:21 <Horusofoz> Gizmokid2005|AFK: Any luck with fixing that SongBird bug?
04:32:30 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Horusofoz: which one?? Lol
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04:38:28 <Scriptdaemon> Gizmokid2005|AFK, any? =P
04:38:52 <Oni-Neoxes> sheesh, people are immature today :\
04:39:50 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Scriptdaemon, Horusofoz: I have one fixed, the ini file, I'm still working on re-writing the launcher to make sure the changes are right.
04:40:04 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and I still have to fix the .trees file...
04:40:06 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> which will be interesting.
04:40:24 <Scriptdaemon> Better than nothing. :)
04:40:35 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> yep
04:40:38 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> so I"m still working on it
04:40:40 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> just been busy
04:40:45 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> worked over 50 hours so far this week
04:40:51 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> plus today was the Fiancee's birthday.
04:45:14 <ChrisMorgan> "the"
04:45:20 <ChrisMorgan> btw, congratulations :-)
04:45:26 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> ChrisMorgan: yep, the :)
04:45:28 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and thanks
04:45:43 <ChrisMorgan> I would have thought that "my" was more appropriate :P
04:45:53 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> nah
04:45:53 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> :D
04:46:00 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> (typically in good grammar it would be)
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04:46:33 <rcmaehl_dsi> may i plz be unbanned in -ot? plz and thx
04:46:45 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Gizmokid2005|AFK: your barrow :-)
04:47:00 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> rcmaehl_dsi: you need to discuss that with the person who banned you.
04:47:08 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Who was it?
04:47:13 <ChrisMorgan|Away> I won't bother asking why.
04:47:15 <rcmaehl_dsi> idk
04:47:59 <rcmaehl_dsi> i was banned lika a month ago
04:48:07 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> rcmaehl_dsi: no, you were not
04:48:07 <Bensawsome> ...
04:48:11 <Bensawsome> wow no...
04:48:14 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> in fact, it was less than a week ago...
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04:48:21 <rcmaehl_dsi> oh
04:48:23 <ChrisMorgan|Away> I seem to recall a mention of it first only a few days ago...
04:49:17 <ChrisMorgan|Away> rcmaehl_dsi: it as last Sunday.
04:50:02 <rcmaehl_dsi> and i get unbanned when?
04:50:20 <rcmaehl_dsi> not to sound mean
04:50:32 <SergentSiler> when the op that banned you decides to lift the ban
04:50:35 <ZachThibeau> rcmaehl_dsi: you had your chance so you won't get unbanned
04:50:47 <SergentSiler> there u go :P
04:51:00 <rcmaehl_dsi> k
04:51:12 <rcmaehl_dsi> bye
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05:00:20 <ZachThibeau> anyways bed time
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05:01:38 <Horusofoz> Congrats
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05:01:56 <ZachT|AFK> Horusofoz|Away: ?_? huh
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07:09:53 <Spaceghost> hi all
07:10:25 <Spaceghost> I always use freenode and use all portable apps but never entries that channel
07:10:27 <Spaceghost> xD
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08:34:10 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
08:34:10 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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13:39:34 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a member of the GE Team (#GamingExposed | GamingExposed.Com) and a french translator of PortableApps.com
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15:39:49 <pa_1458> hi
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15:56:43 <GizmoBot> jwyanze is an amateur app developer a Tester and theme Maker for PA (Portableapps.com)
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16:15:20 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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16:39:11 <ZachThibeau> I may switch to drupal :D
16:40:52 <jnw222> whats wrong with wordpress
16:40:57 <jnw222> for the blog
16:41:38 <ZachThibeau> well nothing really just out of the blue wanted to switch to drupal
16:41:44 <jnw222> ok
16:41:51 <ZachThibeau> and because I want to try this out :D http://drupalbridge.org/phpbbforum
16:43:20 <jnw222> nice
16:43:58 <ZachThibeau> I much prefer phpbb over the default drupal forum and when I saw this I thought about giving it a shot :)
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16:47:31 <jnw222> ZachThibeau, how's it going with AthenaPad recently
16:47:39 <ZachThibeau> I may set up a test site first though,
16:48:16 <ZachThibeau> jnw222: tis a wip still, getting a list of lexers I'm going to support and see if I can get the syntax highlighting support working.
16:50:14 <ZachThibeau> been mostly yesterday and today been working on PChat
16:50:24 <jnw222> oh
16:50:28 <ZachThibeau> trying to fix something to do with portability
16:50:58 <ZachThibeau> the default -d command in the silverex build got lost in my version so I'm trying to fix that
16:52:40 <ZachThibeau> one thing I fixed without really intending to fix is the dependency for OpenSSL that is now statically compiled into the exe
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19:19:52 <pa_9052> i tried firefox 3.5 and it does not work
19:20:11 <pa_9052> on windows 98se
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19:21:44 <pa_8658> help
19:22:16 <mczack26> Though not very qualified whats wrong?
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19:23:06 <mczack26|away> Sorry brb
19:23:07 <pa_8658> potable ff3.6 does work on 98se
19:23:13 <pa_8658> any ideas
19:23:22 <Chazz> doesn't work as in?
19:23:33 <Chazz> does it just not run, do you get an error message
19:23:48 <pa_8658> it does start
19:23:52 <Chazz> ok
19:23:57 <Chazz> then what happens
19:24:10 <pa_8658> nothing
19:24:22 <Chazz> so, it starts then freezes?
19:24:27 <pa_8658> no
19:24:40 <pa_8658> it just does not start
19:25:21 <pa_8658> if i press ctl alt delete nothing running
19:25:36 <Chazz> no firefox.exe
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19:25:50 <GizmoBot> ...
19:25:50 <GizmoBot> ...
19:26:03 <pa_8658> theres a firefox exe
19:26:24 <Chazz> that would be firefox
19:26:25 <pa_8658> in the folder
19:26:28 <Chazz> oh
19:26:39 <Chazz> ok, so, you run firefoxportable.exe
19:26:55 <Chazz> and the taskmanager doesn't show its running?
19:27:02 <pa_8658> ran the portable exe
19:27:21 <pa_8658> nothing running
19:27:41 <Chazz> hmm...
19:27:51 <pa_8658> i tested it on a older computer i have
19:29:25 <Chazz> try redownloading it, and when u run the 'installer' stuick it on the HDD
19:30:16 <pa_8658> i copied the installer from this computer
19:30:36 <Chazz> ok, install to a folder on your dekstop
19:30:40 <pa_8658> i pinstalled in c desktop
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19:31:08 <pa_8658> it just does not open
19:31:14 <Chazz> weird...\
19:32:13 <pa_8658> i have nod 32 on that computer
19:32:20 <pa_8658> and sygate
19:32:28 <SergentSiler> pa_8658, have you used the installer on another computer? and if so, does firefox work then?
19:32:46 <pa_8658> yes on this computer
19:33:11 <SergentSiler> it might be something with the computer itself then, possibly your windows installation
19:33:25 <pa_8658> you think it was a bad burn
19:34:23 <pa_8658> it installed
19:34:33 <pa_8658> used winrar
19:34:39 <pa_8658> no
19:34:51 <pa_8658> opera portable
19:34:56 <pa_8658> worked
19:35:14 <pa_8658> but ff did not
19:35:41 <pa_8658> opera needed a a new dll for performance'
19:36:04 <SergentSiler> well if its a problem with your operating system (windows) then not all applications will work but some others might/will
19:36:10 <pa_8658> any 1 has a old com
19:36:22 <pa_8658> comp with 98se
19:37:12 <pa_8658> was it ever tested on 98se
19:37:42 <Chazz> found the problem
19:37:59 <Chazz> "System Requirements: Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7, Wine on Linux/UNIX"
19:38:14 <pa_8658> thanks
19:38:22 <Chazz> yw
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19:39:21 <SergentSiler> XD
19:40:01 <Chazz> i can't beleave that with like 5 people working on this, none of us thought of the 'is it even compatible' thing... :P
19:40:07 <SergentSiler> lololol
19:40:10 <SergentSiler> WELL
19:40:19 <SergentSiler> we are supposed to support down to windows 98
19:40:26 <SergentSiler> so it didnt cross my mind
19:40:31 <Chazz> we are?
19:40:34 <SergentSiler> ya
19:40:34 <Oni-Neoxes> I just got in here :p
19:40:37 <Chazz> oh
19:41:02 <SergentSiler> what i wanna know is how the hell did he get his flash drive to work with windows 98 o_O
19:41:18 <Chazz> SergentSiler, fat32
19:41:25 <Chazz> my flash works w/ win98
19:41:31 <Chazz> and win95
19:41:41 <SergentSiler> ive never been able to get the correct driver for my flash drives
19:41:47 <Chazz> oh...
19:41:48 <mczack26|away> back
19:41:52 <Chazz> what kind of flash drives?
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19:42:13 <SergentSiler> Chazz, one from lexar, and some sandisk cruzers
19:42:20 <SergentSiler> wb mczack26
19:42:22 <Chazz> ah... weird
19:42:26 <Chazz> wb mczack26
19:42:38 <Chazz> my lexar firefly works perfectly on everything
19:42:49 <SergentSiler> ive got a jump drive expression
19:42:57 <Chazz> oh
19:43:13 * Chazz <3 his firefly
19:43:21 <Oni-Neoxes> firefly >_>?
19:43:27 <Chazz> yarly
19:43:31 <SergentSiler> lol
19:43:32 <Chazz> .g lexar firefly
19:43:34 <GizmoBot> Chazz: http://www.lexar.com/jumpdrive/jd_firefly.html
19:43:41 <Chazz> that ^_^
19:43:50 <Chazz> i think
19:43:51 <SergentSiler> ive got one bettah :D
19:43:53 <SergentSiler> .wik firefly show
19:43:55 <GizmoBot> "Firefly is an American space western television series created by writer/director Joss Whedon, creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, under his Mutant Enemy Productions." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series)
19:43:58 <SergentSiler> ^_^
19:44:09 <Oni-Neoxes> Can they ever think of a universal name for USB flash drives XD
19:44:28 <Chazz> SergentSiler, urs is better?
19:44:40 <SergentSiler> ya :D
19:44:41 <Oni-Neoxes> also I have something better than both of them
19:44:49 * Chazz is amazed his is still in 1 peice
19:44:52 <Chazz> *piece
19:45:05 <Oni-Neoxes> .wik spaceballs
19:45:07 <GizmoBot> "Spaceballs is a 1987 science fiction parody film co-written, directed by, and starring Mel Brooks." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceballs
19:45:11 <SergentSiler> WIN
19:45:18 <SergentSiler> i have it on dvd :D
19:45:20 <Chazz> .wik cheese puff
19:45:21 <GizmoBot> "Cheese puffs, cheese curls, or corn curls[1]| are a puffed corn snack, coated with a mixture of cheese or cheese-flavored powders." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_puff
19:45:29 <Chazz> EPIC WIN
19:45:35 <Oni-Neoxes> no
19:45:48 * Oni-Neoxes throws Chazz to -ot
19:45:52 <Oni-Neoxes> let's go Siler
19:45:55 <SergentSiler> kk :D
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21:44:19 <Chazz> Hello pa_3426 :)
21:44:40 <pa_3426> Does anyone here use VLC portable ?
21:44:56 <Chazz> Yup
21:45:27 <mczack261> Yup
21:46:01 <pa_3426> would you confirm if the launcher should hang around till the app closes, or should exit when the app is done loading
21:48:12 <Chazz> launcher hangs around till app closes, then removes all temp stuff and closes
21:48:19 <jnw222> oh
21:48:27 <pa_3426> Did you just test this ?
21:48:45 <Chazz> yes, i did.
21:49:26 <pa_3426> my vlcportable seems to close as the app is launching
21:49:32 <Chazz> rly?
21:49:39 <pa_3426> english please
21:49:47 <Chazz> really?
21:49:53 <pa_3426> i said it
21:50:08 <pa_3426> that's why i asked if you just tested it
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21:50:50 <Chazz> ya, it's not disappering
21:50:55 <Chazz> tesated again
21:51:10 <pa_3426> a temp folder is created, but disappears in about a second
21:52:48 <pa_3426> how could i correct this
21:54:19 <Chazz> REINSTALL
21:54:22 <Chazz> erm, sorry
21:54:34 <Chazz> stupid caps lock key :(
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22:07:26 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
22:07:26 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
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22:59:13 <Chazz> _50U|r34p3r_, ?
23:00:02 <jnw222> _50U|r34p3r_, = SergentSiller
23:00:17 <Chazz> jnw222, yarly :P
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