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01:08:30 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
01:08:30 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
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01:10:43 <SergentSiler> Whibo|AFK, ur lucky i didnt catch u :P
01:10:56 <SergentSiler> id a ghosted u soo fast
01:11:07 <SergentSiler> and hello TimClark ^_^
01:14:23 <TimClark> Sorry, Guys, really just passing thru for some PMs, not really here to chitchat
01:14:35 <SergentSiler> ok D:
01:14:51 <TimClark> and hello to you to
01:14:55 <SergentSiler> ^_^
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01:29:30 <ZachThibeau> just thought I say hi to you TimClark thats all since you are just passing thru :)
01:29:37 <ZachThibeau> howdy pa_4887 how can we assist you
01:30:18 <pa_4887> No thanks, just check out the Support Chat link
01:31:02 <ZachThibeau> ok np take care and you are welcome to stay around too :)
01:31:38 <pa_4887> I think I liked the older Support Chat better
01:32:06 <ZachThibeau> yeah freenode made some not so wise decisions with mibbit
01:32:34 <ZachThibeau> I mean I understand why they did it but mibbit tried to fix it and freenode wouldn't listen :(
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01:44:35 <SergentSiler> daBomb69, :D
01:44:49 <daBomb69> hey, can ClamWin remove stuff it finds?
01:45:50 <daBomb69> ohai SergentSiler
01:45:55 <daBomb69> TimClark, your back :D
01:47:38 <TimClark> not really daBomb69 , just passing by for some PMs, what are you trying to get ClamWin to do ?
01:47:52 <daBomb69> remove virii it finds, can it?
01:48:47 <TimClark> NO, it can delte or quarentenne a whole file, not delete/remove the virus
01:48:56 <daBomb69> ah, ok
01:49:35 <TimClark> it should be used to scan files you have not run yet, it is not intended to "clean up" damage after it happens really
01:49:49 <daBomb69> oh, ok
01:50:36 <TimClark> And on that note, I'm gone
01:50:43 <daBomb69> g'bye TimClark
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01:50:47 <SergentSiler> bye TimClark
01:50:47 <ZachThibeau> later TimClark
01:51:00 <ZachThibeau> timing ftl for both of us SergentSiler
01:51:08 <SergentSiler> technically no :P
01:51:10 <SergentSiler> i have lag
01:51:11 <daBomb69> we shld have a #portableapps on some other network
01:51:17 <ZachThibeau> I had none SergentSiler xD
01:51:34 <SergentSiler> i was on time it just took too long to get there
01:51:36 <SergentSiler> u were just late
01:51:37 <SergentSiler> :P
01:51:43 <SergentSiler> daBomb69, no
01:51:54 <daBomb69> y not
01:52:04 <daBomb69> Freenode is like Big Brother anymore
01:52:18 <SergentSiler> ??
01:52:19 <daBomb69> so we shld be like yoda and go somewhere else
01:52:36 <daBomb69> SergentSiler, u dont know of Big Brother?
01:52:51 <SergentSiler> <daBomb69> Freenode is like Big Brother anymore | WTF???
01:52:56 <SergentSiler> doesnt make ANY sense
01:53:08 <daBomb69> read the book 1984
01:53:19 <SergentSiler> daBomb69,
01:53:27 <SergentSiler> IS like big brother ANYMORE
01:53:31 <SergentSiler> doesnt make sense
01:53:40 <daBomb69> ur right
01:53:59 <daBomb69> Once again, as always, freenode has decided to run their website as Big Brother
01:54:08 <daBomb69> s/website/irc network
01:54:22 <SergentSiler> elaborate human >_>
01:54:36 <ZachThibeau> SergentSiler: no thats peon ;)
01:54:46 <SergentSiler> lol
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01:55:49 <ZachThibeau> jammcomm is rather abstinetly against freeware apps in PortableApps.com :/
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01:56:46 <ZachThibeau> howdy Horusofoz :D
01:56:59 <Horusofoz> Hey ZachThibeau:)
01:57:16 <Horusofoz> ZachThibeau: What going on?
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01:57:30 <ZachThibeau> not much twas fixing my old desktop
01:57:41 <troll_> elli
01:57:48 <Horusofoz> Do you tihnk you could help with this question - http://portableapps.com/node/20167#comment-124611
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01:58:04 <ZachThibeau> I actually just read that xD
01:58:28 <ZachThibeau> and PortableApp they can use it's PortableApps.com they can't use
01:58:47 <ZachThibeau> but other than that looks fine to me
01:58:59 <Horusofoz> Cool thanks :)
01:59:21 <ZachThibeau> np
02:02:38 <Horusofoz> ZachThibeau: Thanks for updating ZSNES :)
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02:07:13 <Horusofoz> However I noticed when I just booted ZSNES that the splash and ZSNES flicker really fast at first until the splash fades
02:07:46 <ZachThibeau> Horusofoz: np and I'm working on a rewrite :P
02:08:14 <Horusofoz> Cool:)
02:08:32 <ZachThibeau> as well as making my own media player, forking an irc client, making a text editor with the qualities of notepad2 and notepad++
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02:10:16 <Horusofoz> :p Well seeing as you don't have much to do I'll add another bug in switching to the HQ filter kills the app :D
02:10:56 <Horusofoz> As does the NTSC Filter
02:11:18 <ZachThibeau> Horusofoz: thats a zsnes specific bug which should be reported to zsnes.com ;)
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02:11:49 <Horusofoz> Will do
02:12:06 <ZachThibeau> if you do shoot me a pm there sometime :P
02:12:18 <ZachThibeau> thibeaz is the nick there :P
02:23:10 <Horusofoz> ZachThibeau: http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=195891#195891
02:29:28 <Horusofoz> cruisin - Take care all
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03:49:12 <ZachThibeau> *yawn* I need to go to bed
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04:49:03 <Chazz> Gizmokid2005, u here?
04:49:36 <Gizmokid2005> Chazz: for a moment
04:49:38 <Gizmokid2005> whatcha need?
04:50:35 <Chazz> question abount things using stuff liker java portable. How does that work, does it check for java on local machine first, then if it's not there use portable java, or... what?
04:51:01 <Gizmokid2005> Chazz: you have to code in into the launcher, I write mine instead of using CM's launcher...
04:51:13 <Gizmokid2005> if you are making it portable, check for portable java FIRST
04:51:24 <Chazz> ah, ok
04:51:37 <Chazz> and, what was the app u made that used java?
04:51:42 <Gizmokid2005> RSSOwl
04:51:48 <Chazz> ok, thanks :0
04:51:50 <Chazz> *:)
04:52:09 <Gizmokid2005> yw
04:52:11 <Gizmokid2005> I'm off to bed now
04:52:17 <Chazz> night
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04:54:56 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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05:33:11 <Chazz> morning qwertymodo
05:33:46 <qwertymodo> late night here ;)
05:33:58 <Chazz> 1 AM where i am :P
05:34:17 <qwertymodo> 10:45
05:34:37 <Chazz> pacific time?
05:34:43 <qwertymodo> yeah
05:34:52 <Chazz> cool
05:37:00 * qwertymodo wishes Windows 7's "XP mode" would allow attaching USB devices...
05:37:15 <Chazz> it desnt?
05:37:26 <Chazz> s/desnt/doesn't
05:37:32 <qwertymodo> no i have to open the full vm
05:37:35 <Chazz> oh
05:38:23 <qwertymodo> like i have an old scanner with no vista support and it'd be nice to just open GIMP in "XP mode" without having to load the whole virtual xp
05:38:46 <Chazz> ya
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06:16:05 <Chazz> Morning ChrisMorgan
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06:17:59 <ChrisMorgan> Good afternoon Chazz :-)
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06:18:09 <Chazz> it's afternoon there?
06:18:23 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know what time it is "there", but here...
06:18:24 <ChrisMorgan> .t AEST
06:18:24 <GizmoBot> Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:27:57 AEST
06:18:29 <Chazz> oh
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06:19:06 <Whibo|Bed> .t EST
06:19:07 <GizmoBot> Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:28:39 EST
06:19:18 <Whibo|Bed> :nooo
06:19:44 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, do you kow if the guy that did this: http://portableapps.com/node/12595 is still active?
06:20:09 <ChrisMorgan> He shows up from time to time.
06:20:13 <Chazz> ah, ok
06:20:22 <ChrisMorgan> He's the GnuCash Portable developer from memorty
06:20:25 <Chazz> oh
06:21:15 <ChrisMorgan> Yes.
06:21:17 <Chazz> u know if he's still active in the Perl Portable?
06:21:23 <ChrisMorgan> I have no idea.
06:21:29 <Chazz> darn
06:21:42 <ChrisMorgan> All I know is that I've never seen him in here, and he only posts rarely at PortableApps.com.
06:21:48 <ChrisMorgan> I think he's out of it as a whole.
06:21:50 <Chazz> ah... ok
06:22:45 <Chazz> so, would there be anything wrong with someone else updating the Perl Portable launcher and stuff and posting it?
06:23:20 <ChrisMorgan> It would be courteous to ask first.
06:23:39 <ChrisMorgan> I'd suggest that you ask first, wait a few days, then when he doesn't say anything (which he won't :P) continue.
06:23:43 <Chazz> does Drupal have some sort of a Direct/private message
06:23:46 <Chazz> lol
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06:24:05 <ChrisMorgan> There are modules for it, but we don't have one installed (intentionally)
06:24:11 <Chazz> oh
06:24:23 <ChrisMorgan> Just post on that thread.
06:24:31 <Chazz> mkay
06:27:54 <Chazz> well, i've posted, now to begin getting ready for a few days from now when i figure it's been long enough that i can post the new version
06:28:46 <ChrisMorgan> Yup, I reckon you're best to do the work now, the chances that he'll respond are very low, and the chances that he'll say no are approximately that squared.
06:29:15 <Chazz> wow...
06:30:16 <ChrisMorgan> Just judging by the last comments of his concerning his involvement at PortableApps.com.
06:30:38 <Chazz> ?
06:30:59 <ChrisMorgan> He was saying that he was having less and less time with us.
06:31:10 <Chazz> oh
06:35:41 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, is an app has some small issues (in this case, not beiong able to work in directories w/ spaces) could it still go official?
06:36:52 <ChrisMorgan> We've got one already like that.
06:37:01 <Chazz> oh, which one?
06:37:06 <ChrisMorgan> Stellarium I think it was, might have been Celestia
06:37:15 <Chazz> ah, ok
06:37:26 <ChrisMorgan> Its launcher just has a check to see if there's a space in the path, and tells the user about it if there is.
06:37:38 <Chazz> oh, ok
06:37:40 <Chazz> thnx
06:37:53 <ChrisMorgan> Pretty sure it was Stellarium.
06:37:59 <ChrisMorgan> Download it and take a look at its launcher.
06:38:12 <Chazz> ya, i'll have to do that, thanks :)
06:38:24 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/news/2009-07-06_-_stellarium_portable_0.10.2#comment-122684
06:38:40 <ChrisMorgan> And also help.html apparently.
06:38:53 <Chazz> ah, ok
06:41:38 <Chazz> well, thats the only major issue, so, i'll just have to play with Stellarium launcher for that.
06:41:49 <Chazz> how popular do you think a portable Perl would be?
06:41:58 <ChrisMorgan> I really don't know.
06:42:16 <ChrisMorgan> What needs doing to it to make it portable?
06:42:29 <Chazz> just put in in PAF
06:42:50 <ChrisMorgan> I've got one fairly old version of perl, which I used for a which script, but that's all... I've never had any issues with it.
06:43:00 <ChrisMorgan> I guessed that other forms of Perl would be about the same.
06:43:01 <Chazz> ah
06:43:53 <Chazz> well, i'm pretty sure normal perl is not portable, but strawberry perl has a portible versionb
06:45:58 <Chazz> in my opinion, the only really big issue would be a way to do file associaitions... but thats not rly nessisary
06:46:34 <ChrisMorgan> If it doesn't have a GUI, if it's just for file associations, then you run into some problems.
06:47:18 <ChrisMorgan> Then I think you'd want to have the launcher check if there's a file passed to it, and if not, put up a file selection window asking them for one, as in Java Portable Launcher.
06:47:37 <Chazz> hmm... good idea...
06:47:47 <Chazz> i'll have to check out that launcher too
06:48:51 <Chazz> be right back, gotta restart my computer for VBox to work
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06:54:56 <Chazz> back
06:56:33 <Chazz> is Windows Server 2008 an ok OS for testing PApps?
06:57:06 <ChrisMorgan> Sure. Though it's unlikely to be used by more than you :P
06:57:20 <Chazz> lol, yup :P
06:57:29 <Chazz> but like, for regshots and stuff :P
07:03:08 <Chazz> so, if it's made nicely, how good of a chance does Perl Portable have for becoming an official PApp
07:04:10 <ChrisMorgan> Put seriously: if you catch John in here when he's not busy on something else, fairly good. Otherwise, it depends on lots of factors of which I know little :-)
07:04:26 <Chazz> oh
07:05:13 <Chazz> btw, whats the page that shows the currant prereleases
07:05:46 <ChrisMorgan> Good question. http://portableapps.com/development/test is the closest you'll get.
07:05:55 <Chazz> ah, ok. thnx
07:07:09 <Chazz> how does someone get onto the Development Test Releases list?
07:07:30 <ChrisMorgan> Make a package, put in a comment on the page, I or someone else will add it.
07:07:54 <Chazz> what kind of comment shld we say? cause i have a package
07:08:13 <ChrisMorgan> In the format written there, just above the add new comment link
07:08:53 <Chazz> ah, ok
07:08:55 <Chazz> thnx
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07:47:42 <Ted__> Hi I wante to ask will it be PortableApps Platform for other Operating Systems
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11:05:52 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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12:03:36 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
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15:43:39 <pa_3677> can FormatFactory be portable
15:43:53 <Oni-Neoxes> Let me see here pa_3677
15:44:47 <pa_3677> CTCP?
15:45:20 <Oni-Neoxes> Don't worry about it, nothing bad
15:46:18 <Oni-Neoxes> pa_3677, FormatFactory is Freeware
15:46:37 <pa_3677> anything like it
15:46:51 <Oni-Neoxes> Someone could make a launcher for it
15:46:56 <Oni-Neoxes> but not really sure.
15:46:58 <Oni-Neoxes> Hold on
15:49:00 <Oni-Neoxes> We have Bonkenc portable which does audio: http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/bonkenc_portable
15:49:32 <pa_3677> no but thanks
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15:50:09 <Oni-Neoxes> :\
15:50:17 <jnw222> lol
15:50:30 <Oni-Neoxes> feels like I just been rejected <_<
15:50:38 <jnw222> yep
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15:57:19 <Oni-Neoxes> FormatFactory looks amazing
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17:24:00 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
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20:04:25 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
20:04:43 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark
20:05:03 <TimClark> hello Gizmokid2005 , just the man i'm looking for
20:05:10 <Gizmokid2005> of course :P
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20:24:45 <powerjuce> hey guys
20:24:49 <powerjuce> long time no see
20:25:03 <Chazz> hey powerjuce
20:25:13 <powerjuce> hey Chazz
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20:32:32 <ZachThibeau> howdy powerjuce
20:32:42 <powerjuce> hey ZachThibeau
20:32:50 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello powerjuce
20:32:59 <powerjuce> hows the reactos project going, did u officially join that?
20:33:05 <powerjuce> hey Oni-Neoxes how are ya?
20:33:19 <Oni-Neoxes> good.
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20:34:38 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: nope xD they are going for a rewrite :P
20:34:42 <powerjuce> oh lol
20:34:56 <Oni-Neoxes> hey ZachThibeau, Hows VBA-m going?
20:34:59 <powerjuce> and your xchat program?
20:35:12 <ZachThibeau> working on fixing a parameter that makes it portable
20:36:56 <ZachThibeau> and making a custom halo map :D
20:37:06 <ZachThibeau> Oni-Neoxes: new release can be found at emucraze.com
20:37:15 <Oni-Neoxes> :DDDD
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20:43:59 <JacobMastel> Hello all.
20:44:30 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello JacobMastel
20:44:53 <JacobMastel> What's up Oni-Neoxes?
20:45:07 <Oni-Neoxes> Nothing Much. Just the usual hang around. and You JacobMastel?
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20:46:23 <JacobMastel> I'm actually in Indiana for the week.
20:46:46 <Oni-Neoxes> Nice
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20:50:37 <JacobMastel> hello pa_4420 can we help you?
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20:52:26 <pa_4420> How can I delete a program on my usb-memory
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20:55:04 <JacobMastel> Delete it's folder.
20:55:12 <JacobMastel> Wait not
20:55:15 <JacobMastel> That's the old way
20:55:24 <JacobMastel> Right click on its icon and click uninstall
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21:30:07 <GizmoBot> ...
21:30:34 * SergentSiler eats awsomebot
21:30:52 <Chazz> SergentSiler, wrong room and/or bot
21:31:04 <SergentSiler> er
21:31:06 <SergentSiler> XD'
21:31:14 <SergentSiler> s/awsome/gizmo
21:31:21 <Chazz> lol fail :P
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22:00:08 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
22:01:53 <Chazz> Hey ChrisMorgan
22:02:13 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Chazz
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22:44:19 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> does anyone know how to get a filename or filename listing of a directory in nsis?
22:44:35 <jnw222> not me
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22:54:55 <Chazz> hello cogita
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23:12:38 <cogita> hello
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23:13:06 <cogita> I'm trying to start with portable apps development, coming from a primarily C# and java background
23:13:14 <Chazz> ok
23:13:28 <jnw222> ok
23:13:52 <cogita> I ran into a post saying both of those languages are not preferred, is this so?
23:14:05 <Chazz> it is
23:14:06 <cogita> Which languages are recommended then?
23:14:09 <Chazz> NSIS
23:14:27 <Chazz> wait, for launchers, right?
23:14:29 <Gizmokid2005> cogita: right,l ike Chazz, for PortableApps.com launchers, NSIS is used.
23:14:50 <Gizmokid2005> cogita: being that you have a programming background, NSIS should be a breeze for you, it's quite self-explanatory
23:14:57 <Gizmokid2005> and http://nsis.sf.net is full of useful information
23:15:11 <cogita> I've written a portable version control app of my own in C#. I'm looking to port it to a language that's more common
23:15:15 <cogita> thanks
23:15:29 <Gizmokid2005> and if you want examples, it's always best to just open a launcher from another app and look
23:15:36 <cogita> I see
23:15:46 <Gizmokid2005> cogita: yup, it really isn't difficult, just seems daunting at first.
23:16:01 <cogita> I think I'm not looking to create a launcher, but in fact the entire application itself
23:16:39 <jnw222> for the app, C++?
23:17:12 <cogita> That's what I've been looking at. Anyone think its not the right choice?
23:17:34 <Chazz> C, C++, something else that doesn't need .NET java, or similar
23:18:31 <cogita> alright. I'll do some research into setting up a dev environment in C++, then. Thanks for the help.
23:19:18 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, yeah... cogita as Chazz, C++ is a good language to actually write an app in.
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23:24:53 <Chazz> .seen johnthaller
23:24:54 <GizmoBot> Chazz: I last saw johnthaller at 2009-07-31 23:35:42 UTC on #portableapps
23:25:02 <Chazz> .t cst
23:25:03 <GizmoBot> Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:34:44 CST
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