IRC Log from 2009-08-07

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00:11:45 <kai_62656> hi Oni
00:12:35 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello kai_62656
00:13:07 <kai_62656> ;)
00:13:20 <SergentSiler> kai_62656, :O
00:13:25 <SergentSiler> kai_62656, O:
00:14:43 <kai_62656> hmm?
00:14:45 <kai_62656> what?
00:15:54 <SergentSiler> ohai
00:17:19 <kai_62656> [17:23] SergentSiler: kai_62656, :O
00:17:19 <kai_62656> [17:23] SergentSiler: kai_62656, O:
00:17:21 <kai_62656> ?
00:17:27 <SergentSiler> <SergentSiler> ohai
00:17:30 <kai_62656> lol
00:17:32 <kai_62656> no that
00:17:45 <SergentSiler> ?
00:17:50 <kai_62656> ...
00:18:04 <SergentSiler> OM NOM NOM NOM
00:18:29
00:19:34 <Oni-Neoxes> <.<
00:19:40 <kai_62656> >.>
00:19:48
00:19:55 <Oni-Neoxes> orly?
00:20:04
00:20:07 <Oni-Neoxes> k :D
00:20:10 <SergentSiler> :D
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00:30:09 <pa_8113> help
00:30:09 <pabot> pa_8113: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
00:31:04 <pa_8113> i can not install the firefox 3.5.2 error of nsis installer, version pt-br
00:31:21 <kai_62656> hmm
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00:31:38 <kai_62656> do you have problems with other downloads?
00:31:51 <pa_8113> no
00:31:56 <kai_62656> hmm
00:32:15 <pa_8113> i can download but dont install
00:32:29 <kai_62656> let me check it out one min
00:33:31 <kai_62656> 3.5.2 right?
00:33:51 <pa_8113> ya
00:34:01 <kai_62656> ok
00:35:30 <pa_8113> brazilian portuguese version, because the english version is ok
00:36:00 <kai_62656> pa_8113: when you try to install does it try to install or does it not open at all?
00:37:02 <kai_62656> because here it seems to work... what browser did you download it on?
00:37:09 <pa_8113> appears the error message
00:37:14 <kai_62656> ah
00:37:23 <kai_62656> have you tried redownloading it?
00:37:32 <pa_8113> internet explorer 7
00:37:37 <kai_62656> ah
00:37:47 <pa_8113> yes many others
00:37:53 <kai_62656> no the same thing
00:38:42 <pa_8113> the tor addon fuck my firefox 3.5.1 and now iam just the ie7
00:39:03 <kai_62656> ?
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00:39:34 <kai_62656> hmm
00:39:34 <Oni-Neoxes> kai_62656, tor addon screwed up firefoc 3.5.1, he is stuck with ie7.
00:39:42 <kai_62656> oh.. I get it
00:41:04 <pa_8113> well i just need install the 3.5.2 someone sugestion?
00:41:20 <Oni-Neoxes> Are you letting it install in the default directory? if not, are you sure the folder your installing it to a folder that has the (read-only) unchecked?
00:43:41 <pa_8113> i uninstall the old version from my pen drive, and i can not install this, i download but not install nsis error.
00:43:54 <kai_62656> oh
00:44:34 <Oni-Neoxes> try this
00:45:03 <pa_8113> well i try install the 3.0.13 in pt-br until the resolve this problem
00:45:07 <Oni-Neoxes> open your flash drive directory, go to the portableapps here: X:\portableapps, Is there a firefox folder there?
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00:48:08 <pa_8113> yes have
00:49:02 <pa_8113> what there is in the folder, sorry iam working
00:49:19 <Oni-Neoxes> so there is a firefox portable folder there?
00:49:28 <pa_8113> yes
00:49:39 <Oni-Neoxes> try deleting that folder
00:49:43 <Oni-Neoxes> be warned though
00:49:50 <pa_8113> ah ok
00:49:57 <Oni-Neoxes> if you want any addons saved. get a list or back it up
00:50:15 <pa_8113> i try
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01:13:57 <excid3> anyone have jaunty ubuntu isos by any chance?
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02:07:19 <SergentSiler> excid3, what number was that >_>?
02:15:29 <excid3> the latest 9.04
02:15:55 <SergentSiler> oh i ordered the cd :/
02:16:00 <SergentSiler> why?
02:16:08 <excid3> i need the status files from them for Keryx
02:16:18 <SergentSiler> :/
02:16:22 <excid3> it's the only thing holding me back from another release this weekend
02:16:30 <SergentSiler> cd wont work will it >_>?
02:18:49 <excid3> i just need a file off the cd or the iso
02:18:56 <excid3> but really need it from xubuntu or kubuntu
02:19:07 <SergentSiler> damn D:
02:19:14 <SergentSiler> i has the 9.04 cd :/
02:19:18 <excid3> yeah
02:19:20 <excid3> same here
02:19:24 <excid3> oh wells
02:19:25 <excid3> g2g
02:19:26 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: why don't you just dl it?
02:19:42 <excid3> dialup
02:19:45 <excid3> fuuuuuu
02:19:45 <Gizmokid2005> AHhh
02:19:45 <SergentSiler> lol
02:19:46 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
02:19:48 <Gizmokid2005> that'll do it :)
02:19:55 <excid3> yup
02:19:57 <excid3> alright
02:19:57 <excid3> g2g
02:20:00 <SergentSiler> obai D:
02:20:41 <Chazz> obai excid3 :'(
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06:54:24 <Chazz> afternoon ChrisMorgan
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06:54:49 <ChrisMorgan> Ooooh... you got my timezone right! :-)
06:54:58 <Chazz> yay! :P
06:55:21 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, could i get a bit of help on something?
06:55:36 <ChrisMorgan> Probably. As for who it comes from, or where... :P
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06:56:09 <Chazz> well, where in your portableapp template thing would i specify where the exe to run is?
06:56:37 <ChrisMorgan> The spot to find your help is help.html :-)
06:56:49 <ChrisMorgan> But remember it's not a template, it's a launcher.
06:57:04 <Chazz> isn't it a launcher template?
06:57:07 <ChrisMorgan> No.
06:57:10 <ChrisMorgan> It's a launcher.
06:57:45 <Chazz> ok, now i'm sorta confused :/
06:58:09 <ChrisMorgan> Read what the thread says, and what help.html says, and take a look at the files in App\ChrisLauncher.
06:58:19 <Chazz> ok, thanks :)
07:00:06 <Chazz> btw, assuming it was in proper PA.c formast, do u think John would ever officially release a Bash Portable?
07:00:21 <Chazz> if someone (Read: Chazz) made it
07:00:41 <ChrisMorgan> How does bash work on Win32?
07:00:56 <ChrisMorgan> win-bash?
07:01:01 <Chazz> there's a Win32 port of it that runs nativly
07:01:08 <Chazz> ya, win-bash
07:01:31 <ChrisMorgan> I really can't say.
07:02:08 <Chazz> ah, ok
07:02:29 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know why you expect me to be onmiscient concerning John :-)
07:02:41 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, ur the smart guy here, u
07:02:47 <Chazz> * :P
07:03:17 <ChrisMorgan> Why do you qualify it with :P? I prefer it without qualifications :-)
07:03:35 <Chazz> lol
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07:06:57 <ice24790> Hi is there anyone that can tell me how to uninstall an app from portableapps?
07:07:10 <ChrisMorgan> ice24790: which version of the platform are you using?
07:07:27 <ChrisMorgan> The easiest way is just to open up the directory and delete the folder you want to uninstall the app for.
07:07:29 <ice24790> 1.5.1
07:07:44 <ice24790> o ok wasnt sure if that would mess up the menus or anything
07:07:47 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable for Firefox
07:08:07 <ChrisMorgan> No - they're all entirely self-contained. That's what "portable" means to us at least :-)
07:08:16 <ice24790> lol gotya
07:08:24 <ice24790> well thanks alot! great app btw
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07:08:46 <ChrisMorgan> .def papsupport
07:08:48 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: Database error occurred
07:09:02 <ChrisMorgan> Oh yeah... We've got pabot back, but not working...
07:09:14 <ChrisMorgan> I wonder... should I kick pabot so we get a more useful bot back?
07:09:43 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think I have permissions to request GizmoBot to enter
07:12:27 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, i think Gizmokid2005|AFK automatically calls gizmobot if pabot leaves
07:12:32 <Chazz> erm, dies :/
07:12:41 <Chazz> but if not, i could bring in a phenny
07:12:57 <ChrisMorgan> I know that. It's just you can also request it without killing the bot.
07:13:10 <ChrisMorgan> Anyhow, I'll try it, I think it works on part as well as quit.
07:13:30 <Chazz> does it work on kick tho? cause if not u might wanna use a /remove
07:13:38 <Chazz> which makes the client /part
07:13:45 <ChrisMorgan> ?
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07:14:12 <Chazz> will the autocall work on kicks as well as parts and dies?
07:14:15 <Chazz> :/
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07:14:31 <Chazz> will the autocall work on kicks as well as parts and dies?
07:14:42 <Chazz> wb btw
07:14:53 <ChrisMorgan> Did I quit then?
07:14:58 <Chazz> yes
07:15:20 <ChrisMorgan> I did /remove pabot and it sent it raw and said not enough parameters, and then I did /help remove and it popped up the pane saying it had no help for it and then when I closed it it crashed :-)
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07:15:34 <Chazz> oh, thats bad "{
07:15:48 <Chazz> huh... that didn't work :/
07:16:02 <ChrisMorgan> I never knew about this remove thing... alternative to kick, eh?
07:16:06 <Chazz> ph, gizmobot is down
07:16:13 <Chazz> yup, remove is the fun way
07:16:18 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Auto-Message: GizmoBot join requested by the part of pabot
07:16:40 <ChrisMorgan> That was pabot going in #portableapps-dev just in case...
07:16:48 <Chazz> oh, ok
07:17:03 <Chazz> ya, gizmobot is down, it's not in #gizmokid either
07:17:34 <Chazz> * #gizmokid2005
07:18:15 <ChrisMorgan> Well pabot doesn't seem to respond to an invitation to rejoin... ah well :D
07:18:52 <Chazz> ya, i'm pretty sure phenny's will only join a channel if the botowner tells it to :/
07:19:37 <Chazz> Shall i bring one in till we get pabot/gizmobot back?
07:19:47 <ChrisMorgan> I can't really see that we need one.
07:20:05 <Chazz> ah, good point :/
07:21:26 <Chazz> well, just give me a shout if we do
07:21:35 <Chazz> now then, back to coding :/
07:23:40 <ChrisMorgan> What?
07:24:06 <Chazz> if we need a phenny, just shout at me :P
07:24:40 <Chazz> And, now that i understand how your launcher thing works, i need to start coding :D
07:24:49 <ChrisMorgan> Coding what?
07:24:55 <Chazz> Bash Portable
07:25:03 <ChrisMorgan> Using CPALT?
07:25:23 <Chazz> if CPALT is ur launcher thing then yup
07:25:39 <Chazz> even if it is just filling in the blanks, i still say it's coding :P
07:25:39 <ChrisMorgan> Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test.
07:25:44 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
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07:26:11 <pa_4182> hi
07:26:13 <Chazz> btw, is it ok if the icon is licensed under the WTFl?
07:26:13 <ChrisMorgan> Hello pa_4182! Can wel help you?
07:26:17 <Chazz> hello pa_4182
07:26:17 <pa_4182> is there any installation guide?
07:26:37 <pa_4182> I've downloaded the suite
07:26:45 <Chazz> just run the installer
07:27:03 <pa_4182> should I install on hard drive, or i should install on USB?
07:27:10 <ChrisMorgan> Wherever you want to use it from.
07:27:26 <Chazz> depends, do you want it to use it from your hard drive, or your usb drive?
07:27:26 <pa_4182> oh
07:27:29 <pa_4182> I see
07:27:41 <pa_4182> I want to have it where ever I go
07:27:44 <pa_4182> so USB
07:27:48 <Chazz> yup :)
07:28:57 * ChrisMorgan just wants to catch JohnTHaller in here so he can ask about a) when BPBible Portable 0.4.5 is going to be released (still waiting...), and b) the PortableApps.com Launcher (PAL).
07:29:04 <ChrisMorgan> Should just shoot him
07:29:08 <ChrisMorgan> ... an email :P
07:29:14 <Chazz> lol
07:30:42 <pa_4182> installing ...
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09:44:58 <Chazz> wb ChrisMorgan
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12:10:07 <Giulia> hello
12:12:09 <Giulia> could you help me with some stuff for portable applications from Mozilla ?
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14:18:12 <Giulia> could you tell me if portable apps are compatible with Linux ?
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14:31:27 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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16:40:59 <gluxon> UGGHHG...
16:41:11 <gluxon> Anybody here know how to get XAMPPPortable working?
16:44:10 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: ...what's wrong?
16:44:14 <Gizmokid2005> it's REALLY easy...
16:44:28 <gluxon> Seriously?
16:44:31 <Gizmokid2005> Menu Integration: XAMPP isn't in PortableApps.com Format, but it easily integrates with the PortableApps.com Suite by using the XAMPP Launcher 1.3 and installing XAMPP in the root directory of your portable device (as recommended).
16:44:35 <Gizmokid2005> Yes...
16:44:38 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp
16:44:38 <gluxon> I know..
16:44:40 <Gizmokid2005> it's right there...
16:44:42 <gluxon> I read the source.
16:44:43 <Gizmokid2005> so...what's the problem?
16:44:54 <gluxon> Let me post the error.
16:45:31 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: read here too: http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp#support
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16:46:37 <gluxon> I'll try that.
16:48:50 <gluxon> Nope, setup_xampp.bat didn't work :(
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16:54:57 <gluxon> UGHG
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17:17:06 <SteveLamerton> Hello all, I am back!
17:18:19 <MaienM> welcome back SteveLamerton :)
17:18:32 <SteveLamerton> Heya MaienM, much been happening?
17:19:49 <MaienM> not really
17:19:56 <MaienM> with you?
17:20:13 <SteveLamerton> Been on holiday, loads of forum topics to look through now though!
17:22:54 <MaienM> ame here, but my holiday isn't over yet
17:26:07 <SteveLamerton> Lucky you :) And that is the forum quickly looked through, 8 pages of unread threads :(
17:26:43 <MaienM> I guess its gonna be much worse for me
17:26:49 <MaienM> I'm gone for 5 weeks or so
17:27:07 <MaienM> I think I am just gonna skipp reading everything
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17:28:30 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I picked a few that looked important and then hit the Mark all as read button ;)
17:42:19 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: everything but my thread, k? :)
17:42:45 <SteveLamerton> Heya Gizmokid2005
17:42:49 <Gizmokid2005> hi SteveLamerton :)
17:43:05 <Gizmokid2005> how are you?
17:43:29 <SteveLamerton> Pretty good thanks, I have a worrying amount of topics to reply to though!
17:43:56 <Gizmokid2005> haha, I can imagine.
17:44:49 <SteveLamerton> Why can't everyone else go on holiday at the same time as me, much easier that way ;)
17:44:54 <Gizmokid2005> I agree
17:45:25 <SteveLamerton> I think we have a plan there then :)
17:45:30 <Gizmokid2005> Yup
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18:04:17 <ZachThibeau> howdy StatBot
18:04:23 <ZachThibeau> arghh
18:04:27 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton I meant >_<
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19:27:57 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I downloaded Firefox 3.5.2 and when I clicked on it to install it WinAmp opened instead of installing it
19:29:00 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: it sounds like a file association is messed up
19:29:11 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> How do I fix this
19:30:28 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I have FirefoxPortable_3.0.13_English.paf and it let me install it with no issues and 3.5.2 is in the same file format and it wants to open with WinAmp
19:31:47 <Gizmokid2005> try downloading the file again
19:31:49 <Gizmokid2005> something isn't right
19:31:57 <Gizmokid2005> either the extension was changed, or it didn't save correctly
19:32:02 <Gizmokid2005> because they are the same .paf.exe files..
19:32:05 <Gizmokid2005> and should launch the same.
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19:32:35 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> they don't
19:32:52 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> 3.0.13 lets me install but 3.5.2 wont
19:33:14 <Gizmokid2005> try downloading 3.5.2 again then
19:34:16 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I did
19:34:21 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I clicked on it
19:34:25 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> WinAmp opened
19:34:34 <Gizmokid2005> clicked on what?
19:34:41 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I redownloaded 3.5.2
19:34:46 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I tried opening it
19:34:51 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> WinAmp opened
19:34:53 <Gizmokid2005> right click on it instead
19:34:56 <Gizmokid2005> and click on properties
19:35:24 <Gizmokid2005> on the general tab, what does it say as Type Of File
19:35:35 <Gizmokid2005> and what's the size?
19:35:48 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> Paris Audio File (.paf)
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19:35:59 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> Paris Audio File (.paf)
19:36:01 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> 8.8MB
19:36:03 <Gizmokid2005> that's the problem...
19:36:08 <Gizmokid2005> it's not saving the right extension
19:36:11 <Gizmokid2005> at the end of the filename
19:36:13 <Gizmokid2005> what does it have?
19:36:30 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> .paf
19:36:36 <Gizmokid2005> ok
19:36:38 <Gizmokid2005> add .exe to the end
19:36:41 <Gizmokid2005> then hit Apply
19:36:42 <Gizmokid2005> and Ok
19:36:45 <Gizmokid2005> and then try
19:37:56 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I did that and WinAmp decide to show up again
19:38:01 <Gizmokid2005> ok
19:38:06 <Gizmokid2005> open up my computer
19:38:17 <Gizmokid2005> Click Tools > Folder Options
19:38:19 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> Where in Vista is that
19:38:21 <Gizmokid2005> then go to the "View" tab
19:38:23 <Gizmokid2005> ooh
19:38:24 <Gizmokid2005> h/o
19:38:26 <Gizmokid2005> click on Computer
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19:38:59 <Gizmokid2005> find it SthrnDixieCwgrl?
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19:39:12 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> which hard drive partition do I want
19:39:20 <Gizmokid2005> none
19:39:21 <Gizmokid2005> don't worry
19:39:25 <Gizmokid2005> see "Tools" at the top?
19:40:14 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> di I want map network drive or disconnect network drive
19:40:21 <Gizmokid2005> "Folder Options..."
19:40:43 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> general View Search
19:40:43 <Gizmokid2005> find it?
19:40:45 <Gizmokid2005> View
19:41:00 <Gizmokid2005> then under Advanced Settings, look for, and UNCHECK "Hide extensions for known file types"
19:41:32 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> now what
19:41:36 <Gizmokid2005> hit apply
19:41:38 <Gizmokid2005> and then ok
19:41:45 <Gizmokid2005> THEN, right-click on FirefoxPortable 3.5.2 again
19:41:49 <Gizmokid2005> and go to properties
19:42:11 <Gizmokid2005> and tell me what's at the end of the filename now
19:42:43 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> FirefoxPortable_3.5.2_English.paf.exe.paf
19:42:49 <Gizmokid2005> delete the last .paf
19:42:58 <Gizmokid2005> so it should be FirefoxPortable_3.5.2_English.paf.exe
19:43:03 <Gizmokid2005> then hit apply and OK
19:43:06 <Gizmokid2005> and then try
19:43:57 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> If you change a file name extension, the file may become unusable.
19:43:57 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> Are you sure you want to change it.
19:44:03 <Gizmokid2005> yes
19:44:42 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> that worked
19:44:50 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: now
19:44:51 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> what caused it to do this
19:44:52 <Gizmokid2005> go back to Computer
19:44:59 <Gizmokid2005> then tools
19:45:01 <Gizmokid2005> and folder options
19:45:08 <Gizmokid2005> and recheck that box about file extensions again
19:45:09 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> and recheck that one thing
19:45:13 <Gizmokid2005> yup
19:45:17 <Gizmokid2005> and as for the cause, I'm not sure
19:45:34 <Gizmokid2005> but something added an extra .paf to the end.
19:45:51 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> that is why I am getting Mac OSX 10.6
19:45:59 <jnw222> win
19:46:00 <Gizmokid2005> I have one :)
19:46:07 <Gizmokid2005> but I still use my windows pc mainly'
19:46:09 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I hate Windows
19:46:20 <jnw222> me too
19:46:30 <jnw222> switched to linux a long time ago
19:46:30 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> let me rephrase
19:46:34 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I hate Vista
19:46:36 <jnw222> lol
19:46:40 <Gizmokid2005> I do too, but it's a double-edged sword...I play games too much to drop windows
19:46:42 <Gizmokid2005> so I run XP Pro :D
19:47:09 <jnw222> run windows 2000 just to play some few games
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19:47:21 <GizmoBot> sar3th sets mode +ohai all
19:47:33 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I am getting an Apple put a partition on the hard drive and putting some version of windows on the one half and use it only when I have to
19:47:52 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: I've got that too. Boot camp/Parallels/Virtual Box FTW :D
19:48:10 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I am going with Boot Camp and VM Ware
19:48:18 <Gizmokid2005> I've heard of a LOT of issues with VMWare
19:48:24 <Gizmokid2005> on macos
19:48:26 <Gizmokid2005> VirtualBox
19:49:29 <Gizmokid2005> ot parallels is better
19:49:33 <Gizmokid2005> Vbox is free :)
19:49:48 <jnw222> Virtualbox is my favorite over parallels , vmware qemu etc
19:49:49 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I still have 3.0.x on my hard drive since Symantec has not released a patch that works with 3.5.x
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19:51:49 <Gizmokid2005> another reason I use no Symantec products :)
19:51:54 <Gizmokid2005> MalwareBytes FTW :D
19:51:57 <Gizmokid2005> or AVG
19:52:39 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I had to disable Windows defender since it caused Norton to not work right
19:52:49 <Gizmokid2005> Norton has waaay too many issues with Vista
19:53:02 <Gizmokid2005> I use to do Tech Support at an ISP...IE+Norton+Vista = uber fail.
19:53:05 <Gizmokid2005> just about every time.
19:53:32 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I have had Norton and Vista for almost 2 years and not really had any issues with both working together
19:53:54 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, I can't stand to pay a company for a piece of bloatware such as that :D
19:54:08 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.free-av.com/ FTW
19:54:18 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I have used Norton since Norton 2002 came out
19:54:25 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> and have had no issues
19:54:32 <sar3th|away> Gizmokid2005: i second :D
19:54:42 <Gizmokid2005> sar3th|away: thanks :)
19:54:57 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I now have Norton 360 and it takes care or malware spyware virus and comes with firewall
19:55:05 <Gizmokid2005> I switched to it from AVG when I was having my issues before (Though the switch made no difference) and I like it better
19:55:19 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: yes, but if you check third party stats, norton actually is a very poor av
19:55:26 <Gizmokid2005> and any one program that touts that it can do all three is a crock.
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19:55:40 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I went to Norton from McAfee
19:56:15 <jnw222> norton fails at removing viruses/malware
19:56:24 <Gizmokid2005> mcafee is even worse
19:56:24 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> not for me
19:56:26 <Gizmokid2005> I'll give you the links
19:56:50 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests
19:57:07 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I left McAfee cause everytime I went to update the virus definition I had to uninstall the entire program reinstall it and then I could install the update
19:57:39 <jnw222> to me norton has very SLOW scan timed
19:57:44 <jnw222> stimes*
19:58:06 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I like slow cause to me that means it is being thorough
19:58:24 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: no offense, but that's the worst reasoning I've ever heard...
19:58:29 <Gizmokid2005> slow doesn't mean better
19:58:30 <Gizmokid2005> in any way.
19:59:29 <Gizmokid2005> both Symantec and McAfee scored less than 50% on the on-demand scan capabilities
19:59:34 <Gizmokid2005> whereas free AVIRA scored almost 70%
19:59:41 <jnw222> norton=inefficient MacAfee has faster scan times and removes most viruses
20:00:24 <Gizmokid2005> and the ProActive detection of new malware - AVIRA got the highest with 69% and Symantec got 8th with only 35%
20:00:31 <Gizmokid2005> so, paying $50+/year for protection that fails...
20:00:34 <Gizmokid2005> not my cup of tea.
20:01:02 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> McAfee has issues with updates and had issues removing viruses on my system which is something that I never had issues with when I got Norton
20:01:11 <jnw222> avg free is good for me
20:01:17 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: right, but why use norton when AVIRA is free and is better?
20:03:26 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I like names that I have heard of
20:04:00 <Gizmokid2005> avira missed less than 1% of the viruses, whereas Symantec missed over 1%
20:04:35 <Gizmokid2005> Total Detection rates: AVIRA - 99.7%, Symanted 98.7%
20:06:03 <Gizmokid2005> I'll believe the results of a third-party independent testing company
20:06:12 <Gizmokid2005> especially one such as this, which outlines EVERYTHING that they've done, and why.
20:06:43 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I will believe name brand companies
20:06:52 <Gizmokid2005> I don't...they are there to make money
20:06:53 <Gizmokid2005> that's it.
20:07:02 <Gizmokid2005> AV-Comparatives is there as an independent testing company :)
20:07:52 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I have not had an issue with Norton and I will keep using it
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20:08:03 <Gizmokid2005> Lol, that's a way to leave.
20:08:19 <Gizmokid2005> in the wrong. *Shrugs* I wasn't saying she had to switch, but I see NO reason to pay $70 for crappy software...
20:08:44 <SergentSiler> :P
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20:36:50 <powerjuce> hey Chazz
20:38:07 <jnw222> hi
20:38:46 <powerjuce> hey jnw222
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20:43:54 <tom___> hi
20:44:04 <jnw222> hey tom
20:44:17 <tom___> I keep getting a windows delay write error
20:44:39 <tom___> newest one
20:44:42 <Chazz> tom___, do u pull out your flash drive w/o safely removing it?
20:44:47 <tom___> just downloaded
20:44:48 <tom___> yes
20:45:02 <Chazz> and, u get these errors when?
20:45:10 <tom___> FYI.....I am in Iraq using a MWR computer
20:45:21 <tom___> in FF
20:45:27 <tom___> and when I download stuff
20:45:33 <Chazz> is the drive full?
20:45:37 <tom___> nope
20:45:43 <Chazz> is it broken?
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20:45:49 <tom___> wiped it clean before the install
20:46:08 <tom___> dont think so
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20:46:31 <tom___> new to this stuff...I was a u3 user before
20:46:44 <Chazz> flash drive is in, right?
20:46:50 <tom___> yep
20:47:10 <Chazz> hmm... thats all of the normal problems :/
20:47:14 <tom___> is portapps pretty stable?
20:47:20 <Chazz> ya, very
20:47:43 <Chazz> running windows?
20:47:51 <tom___> XP pro
20:48:00 <Chazz> ok... hmm...
20:48:13 <Chazz> could you run a chkdsk on the drive plz
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20:48:27 <tom___> i will try
20:48:35 <tom___> thx
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20:48:46 <Chazz> ok, good. cause sounds like it's a hardware issue :(
20:48:49 <tom___> is a speedboast drive any faster?
20:48:56 <tom___> in XP
20:49:07 <Chazz> umm... good question
20:50:02 <tom___> Admin is is shutting down all PC's...thx for the suggestions. I will try the chkdsk
20:50:13 <tom___> later
20:50:27 <Chazz> ah, ok. byw
20:50:31 <Chazz> *bye
20:50:36 <Chazz> hope we could help
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