IRC Log from 2009-08-19

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00:15:09 <pa_6260> im having a problem
00:16:26 <pa_6260> the apps dont seem to open when i click it in the portableapps.com menu
00:17:45 <pa_6260> i have had this problen before too and i had to re-install the portableapps.com suite to get it working.
00:18:12 <pa_6260> but now i'm having the same problem again
00:18:17 <Bensawsome> pa_6260 can you press CTRL-ALT-Delete and go to the processes tab and tell me if you see any of the apps you launched in there?
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00:19:23 <pa_6260> no it does not show up there
00:21:04 <Bensawsome> hmmm
00:21:26 <Bensawsome> what are the apps you were trying to watch pa_6260?
00:21:29 <Bensawsome> err launch i mean
00:22:32 <pa_6260> if i go to the portableapps file folder and go to the specific app folder and open the app through the .exe file... it works just fine
00:23:01 <Bensawsome> aaah
00:23:02 <Bensawsome> ok
00:23:09 <Bensawsome> thats waht i was about to ask also
00:23:10 <Bensawsome> lol
00:23:11 <Bensawsome> umm
00:23:22 <Bensawsome> then ya try reinstalling the menu
00:23:47 <Bensawsome> use this specifically http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_1.5.2.exe
00:23:58 <pa_6260> jooleem and notepad++ and every other app i have installed
00:24:27 <pa_6260> will i have to reinstall all the apps again??
00:24:33 <Bensawsome> no
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00:24:51 <Bensawsome> you said all the other apps work fine when launched from their resp[ective folders right?
00:25:01 <Bensawsome> but not from the menu?
00:25:04 <pa_6260> yup
00:25:14 <Bensawsome> then all you have to reinstall is the menu: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_1.5.2.exe
00:25:26 <Bensawsome> thats is *just* the menu so you dont have to reinstall everything :)
00:25:45 <pa_6260> alright i'll give it a try
00:25:53 <Bensawsome> :)
00:26:42 <pa_6260> thanks....if i have problem ill come back again; )
00:26:57 <Bensawsome> no prob ^_^
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01:06:15 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: where can I see the download stats for songbird?
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01:11:44 <prapper> Morning all :-)
01:11:51 <Gizmokid2005> hello prapper
01:12:11 <prapper> Hi Gizmokid2005
01:12:31 <prapper> Nice one with the release btw
01:12:39 <Gizmokid2005> thanks :)
01:13:22 <prapper> I just tried posting to the forum but got blocked by a spam filter!
01:13:37 <Gizmokid2005> haha, you gotta talk to JohnTHaller about that one
01:13:41 <Gizmokid2005> it's something he was working on today
01:14:13 <prapper> Am I banned? LOL
01:14:45 <Gizmokid2005> LOL I highly doubt it
01:15:10 <prapper> Had to happen sooner or later LOL
01:16:03 <prapper> Hi JohnTHaller
01:16:26 <JohnTHaller> fixed it http://portableapps.com/node/18796
01:17:06 <prapper> So if I repost now all will be good?
01:17:34 <prapper> As long as I don't swear LOL
01:18:26 <JohnTHaller> i think one of the links set it off
01:18:54 <prapper> OK, just having another go now...
01:19:57 <prapper> That's it, thanks very much JohnTHaller :-)
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02:21:47 <alpha1beta1> hey JohnTHaller http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2009/08/18/portable-songbird-12/
02:21:48 <Chazz> hey alpha1beta1
02:22:06 <alpha1beta1> howdy
02:22:10 <JohnTHaller> I know... I commented on it :-)
02:22:27 <alpha1beta1> I just saw /me feels stupid
02:22:45 <alpha1beta1> Gizmo beat ya to it
02:22:59 <alpha1beta1> I have seen that more today than the michael jackson news :D
02:23:15 <Gizmokid2005> alpha1beta1: YAY!!! about time!
02:23:16 <Gizmokid2005> lol
02:23:45 <Bensawsome> LOL i love how you put that alpha1beta1 :P
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02:23:57 <Chazz> :o
02:24:08 <Gizmokid2005> I <3 that script...it's the next one I don't...
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02:24:09 <GizmoBot> pabot is the good old bot of #portableapps, and it looks like he's back, so I'm outta here!
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02:24:23 <Gizmokid2005> that one...
02:24:25 <Gizmokid2005> idk why it does that...
02:24:29 <Gizmokid2005> but it ONLY does it in this channel...
02:25:39 <Chazz> did u run the who;e script twice
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02:25:43 <Chazz> ?
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02:27:12 <Gizmokid2005> nope
02:27:17 <Gizmokid2005> it's an autorun script.
02:28:01 <Chazz> but, does the whole thing run twice, or does it just tell the chan that studff twice
02:30:11 <Gizmokid2005> just tells the channel three times...
02:31:03 <Gizmokid2005> anywho, I'm off to bed now
02:31:05 <Gizmokid2005> 'nite all
02:31:15 <alpha1beta1> c ya Giz
02:31:29 <Gizmokid2005> Night alpha1beta1, Chazz, JohnTHaller - thanks again!
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02:31:39 <Chazz> night Gizmokid2005|AFK
02:32:43 <JohnTHaller> gnight
02:36:27 <JohnTHaller> i'
02:36:33 <JohnTHaller> i'm off to bed, too... gnight all
02:36:42 <Chazz> night JohnTHaller
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02:45:17 <pa_5246> Whats a launcger
02:45:29 <pa_5246> LAUNCER
02:45:38 <pa_5246> LAUNCHER
02:46:35 <Chazz> something that launchs something else
02:47:05 <Whibo> i need a firefox launcher to go on msdn anywhere :D
02:47:30 <pa_5246> is it a portable app
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02:47:55 <Whibo> :o
02:48:05 <Chazz> wow... that guy was...
02:48:33 <Chazz> btw, Whibo downloads may work better in FF, but for just looking, Chrome pwns all others :P
02:48:48 <Whibo> :P
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02:55:54 <pa_2495> Im sorry Chazz can we countinue our convorsation
02:56:06 <Chazz> ok, what were you wondering?
02:56:53 <pa_2495> Is a launcher a portable app or no
02:57:11 <Chazz> a launcher /makes/ the app portable
02:57:48 <pa_2495> ohh
02:58:07 <pa_2495> can any progame be a portable app
03:00:04 <Chazz> only if it's made so that it leaves no stuff behind on the host computer or has a launcher that gets rid of what it leaves
03:00:43 <pa_2495> can .net framework be a launcher
03:01:53 <Chazz> no
03:02:23 <pa_2495> so im stuck with gimp (paint.NET)
03:02:32 <Chazz> yup :/
03:02:57 <Chazz> although i think someone is making a portable inkscape
03:04:01 <pa_2495> I have no experince with inkscape either
03:04:08 <pa_2495> :(
03:04:10 <Chazz> oh :/
03:04:15 <pa_2495> oh well
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03:04:28 <pa_2495> well thx
03:04:34 <pa_2495> Chazz
03:04:39 <pa_2495> big help
03:04:43 <Chazz> your welcome :D
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03:55:25 <pa_5367> hello
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04:00:30 <pa_5367> help
04:00:31 <pabot> pa_5367: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
04:00:46 <Chazz> pa_5367, what do you need help with?
04:01:13 <pa_5367> new at this :)
04:02:02 <pa_5367> let's say..
04:02:27 <pa_5367> i want to burn the suite onto a cd for now
04:02:33 <Chazz> ok
04:02:44 <pa_5367> plus many other apps that i like
04:03:01 <pa_5367> how do i burn all that onto a cd at one time
04:03:13 <Bensawsome> like
04:03:19 <Bensawsome> you want the installers?
04:03:24 <Bensawsome> or you want to run them from the cd
04:03:30 <pa_5367> yes
04:03:33 <pa_5367> for now
04:03:49 <Bensawsome> ok. well if you want to rjun the actual apps from cd
04:03:49 <pa_5367> till i get my new 16gb flash drive
04:03:53 <Bensawsome> oh nice
04:03:55 <Bensawsome> lol
04:04:03 <Bensawsome> well install the apps to a folder on ur hdd
04:04:04 <Bensawsome> then
04:04:23 <Bensawsome> open each one and configure them how you like (you wont be able to change the config later)
04:04:31 <Bensawsome> then when you are done configing each one
04:04:53 <Bensawsome> use a cd burning app to burn all the program files to a cd :)
04:05:35 <pa_5367> will that cd be bootable ?
04:05:39 <Bensawsome> no
04:05:42 <pa_5367> or is that a sill ?
04:05:49 <Bensawsome> portalbeapps is not an operating system
04:06:02 <pa_5367> so basically ...
04:06:02 <Bensawsome> its just the apps. they still need windows to use them
04:06:11 <pa_5367> got it
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04:06:30 <Bensawsome> and at that note i must be off to bed. hopefully Chazz can help ya still
04:06:39 * Chazz tries :/
04:06:45 <Bensawsome> lol
04:06:46 <Bensawsome> cya
04:06:49 <pa_5367> so thanks
04:07:12 <pa_5367> hello chazz
04:07:20 <Chazz> Hi pa_5367
04:08:28 <pa_5367> so if i dl the installer will it intall the suite
04:08:55 <pa_5367> to a portableapps folder?
04:09:34 <Chazz> pa_5367, everything will be installed to [drive letter]/PortableApps/[AppNamePortable]
04:10:23 <pa_5367> ok
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04:10:50 <pa_5367> and then do i dl each individual app that is not in the suite?
04:11:11 <pa_5367> and install them individually?
04:11:25 <pa_5367> and when i'm done then burn it to a cd?
04:11:39 <Chazz> ya, you could do that
04:12:45 <pa_5367> so each indi.. app would get installed in its own folder under the parent "/portableapps/"?
04:13:16 <Chazz> yup
04:13:38 <pa_5367> then when i want to run any app i just insert the cd and click the exe file?
04:14:01 <Chazz> yup
04:14:10 <pa_5367> hmm..
04:14:37 <pa_5367> is there a way to down load them all at once?
04:14:42 <pa_5367> :)
04:15:09 <Chazz> sadly, i don't think there is :(
04:15:16 <pa_5367> ok
04:15:22 <pa_5367> one more ?
04:16:19 <pa_5367> the suite dl installer installs all the apps in the suite all at once?
04:16:37 <Chazz> yup :)
04:17:02 <pa_5367> wish they had included lot more in the suite?
04:17:06 <pa_5367> :)
04:17:20 <Chazz> ya, that would be nice :)
04:18:35 <pa_5367> thanks
04:18:44 <pa_5367> will go and try that
04:19:18 <pa_5367> will be back if i need more help..
04:19:23 <pa_5367> thanks chazz
04:19:32 <Chazz> yw pa_5367 have a nice day
04:19:39 <pa_5367> u2
04:19:49 <pa_5367> slong
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05:39:51 <ChrisMorgan> .seen JohnTHaller
05:39:51 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: I last saw johnthaller at 2009-08-19 02:49:43 UTC on #portableapps
05:39:58 <ChrisMorgan> palogbot: uri
05:39:58 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-08-19#T05-39-58
05:52:33 <mjj> .seen mjj
05:52:34 <pabot> Sorry, I haven't seen mjj around.
05:55:13 <Chazz> lol
05:55:22 <Chazz> oh, hey ChrisMorgan :D
05:55:39 <Chazz> mjj, your invisible!
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06:04:11 <Chazz> gluxon, bed naow plz
06:04:37 <gluxon> NEVER! I Love playing wolf.
06:04:41 <Chazz> lol
06:04:53 * Chazz will play after he restarts his comp
06:04:57 <gluxon> And you're one to talk. :P
06:05:13 <ChrisMorgan> OK then, I shall.
06:05:13 <gluxon> yay, thanks.
06:05:24 <Chazz> i'm older than u, i'm supposed to stay up late gluxon :P
06:05:37 <gluxon> ? Really? You'll play?
06:05:41 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, ur playing? O_o
06:05:42 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon, Chazz: go to bed :)
06:05:51 <Chazz> lol
06:06:03 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, i'm old, i can stay up late :P
06:06:15 <ChrisMorgan> no, I was responding to gluxon's complaint that Chazz shouldn't talk.
06:06:40 <gluxon> ... Chazz: What time zone are you in?
06:06:55 <Chazz> gluxon, the one right behind yours... :P
06:06:58 <Chazz> .t ct
06:06:58 <pabot> Chazz: Sorry, I don't know about the 'ct' timezone.
06:07:02 <Chazz> :/
06:07:06 <Chazz> .t cst
06:07:06 <pabot> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:20:08 CST
06:07:22 <Chazz> umm... not quite :/
06:07:23 <gluxon> lol. I was saying he should be asleep too.
06:07:33 <Chazz> it's 1:20 AM her
06:07:51 <Chazz> gluxon, u shld be in bed, ur younger, AND ur an hour ahead of me ;P
06:08:22 <ChrisMorgan> The latest I have *ever* been up (not including air flights etc.) was 1:30am, when I was helping Dad with a tricky WaterSums release.
06:08:38 <ChrisMorgan> And then I had a migraine the next day at about 1pm.
06:08:42 <Chazz> :o
06:08:44 <ChrisMorgan> Staying up that late is not healthy.
06:08:53 <gluxon> wow... but that still doesn't mean you should be up too.
06:08:54 * ChrisMorgan likes preaching ;-)
06:09:01 <Chazz> lol
06:09:13 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: huh?
06:09:36 <gluxon> ?
06:09:49 <ChrisMorgan> "wow... but that still doesn't mean you should be up too." - ?
06:09:52 <ChrisMorgan> .t AEST
06:09:52 <pabot> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:22:54 AEST
06:10:12 <Chazz> gluxon, he's 11 hours ahead of you
06:10:36 <Chazz> it's 4:23 there now
06:10:38 <Chazz> PM
06:10:44 <gluxon> ? I was talking to daBomb69...
06:10:48 <Chazz> lol
06:11:23 <gluxon> ? what? You said it was 1:30 am there.
06:11:45 <Chazz> it is
06:11:55 <Chazz> it's 4:24 PM where ChrisMorgan is
06:12:02 <ChrisMorgan> You guys need to sort out your timezones... you're obviously all too tired to work it out.
06:12:21 <gluxon> ... I know, he told me yesterday.
06:12:23 <ChrisMorgan> I really should kick you both and cite health protection as a reason :D
06:13:00 <gluxon> You should relax and play wolf.
06:13:10 <Chazz> lol
06:13:16 <ChrisMorgan> You've still not told me what it is...
06:13:19 <gluxon> :P
06:13:25 <Chazz> .g wolf irc bot
06:13:26 <pabot> Chazz: http://code.google.com/p/ircbot-collection/
06:13:29 <Chazz> no
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06:13:39 <Chazz> .g wolfbot+irc
06:13:40 <pabot> Chazz: http://svn.red-bean.com/repos/ircbots/trunk/README.wolfbot
06:13:43 <Chazz> yes
06:13:52 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, read that ^_^
06:13:56 <gluxon> Just join ##jswolfbot
06:16:33 <ChrisMorgan> Very similar to a game called MAFIA... it has inspectors, civilians and MAFIA members in it. As well as the MAFIA people opening their eyes etc. the inspectors can inspect a person so they'll know what they are. Game ends when inspectors/MAFIA are all gone.
06:17:38 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, wolf is based off of mafia
06:17:47 <Chazz> gluxon, ur wolf arn't u? :P
06:17:51 <ChrisMorgan> Except watered down :P
06:17:52 <gluxon> wow.. that does sound like wolf.
06:18:10 <Chazz> gluxon, <Chazz>ChrisMorgan, wolf is based off of mafia
06:18:26 <gluxon> So congrates, you know the rules, now play :P
06:19:38 <ChrisMorgan> So the "seer" is the inspector"
06:19:55 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, I'm going to do something useful.
06:20:02 <ChrisMorgan> Have a guess what it is.
06:20:45 <Chazz> work on manta
06:20:47 <Chazz> ?
06:20:54 <ChrisMorgan> Don't give the man a cigar... because he's a minor and I don't want to be fined and put in jail. And they're bad anyway.
06:20:57 <ChrisMorgan> Yes :-)
06:21:10 <Chazz> lol
06:21:24 <gluxon> ?
06:21:28 <Chazz> oh, btw, ChrisMorgan
06:21:46 <Chazz> how would i get a loop thing for setting temp varibles in nsis?
06:22:40 <ChrisMorgan> Chazz: please explain what you want in detail.
06:23:08 <ChrisMorgan> Something like App\BASH\plugins\this\this.exe, App\BASH\plugins\that\that.exe?
06:23:14 <Chazz> ya
06:23:43 <Chazz> and i want it so no matter what the directory i;m in, i could just type thing.exe and run it
06:24:19 <ChrisMorgan> So you're really just wanting to add every directory in App\BASH\plugins to the PATH, right?
06:24:30 <Chazz> ya
06:26:05 <ChrisMorgan> Locate is the easiest way.
06:26:12 <Chazz> hmm?
06:26:26 <ChrisMorgan> Read the NSIS manual for Locate
06:26:34 <Chazz> :/
06:26:50 * Chazz goes off to read MORE nsis
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06:27:57 <ChrisMorgan> ${Locate} "$EXEDIR\App\Programs" "/L=D /G=0" "AddDirectoryToPath"
06:28:29 <Chazz> oh
06:28:30 <ChrisMorgan> That will find all immediate subdirectories (i.e. not recursive) or $EXEDIR\App\Programs (you probably don't want it in App\BASH)
06:28:42 <ChrisMorgan> Then you have the AddDirectoryToPath callback function.
06:29:10 <Chazz> and, that adds it to path i'm guessing
06:29:47 <ChrisMorgan> Function AddDirectoryToPath
06:29:47 <ChrisMorgan> StrCpy $R0 "$R0;$R9"
06:29:47 <ChrisMorgan> FunctionEnd
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06:30:28 <ChrisMorgan> Before the ${Locate} call ReadEnvStr $R0 PATH, and after it write the environment variable with `"PATH", R0`
06:31:11 <Chazz> ah, ok
06:31:13 <ChrisMorgan> You will find that it will readily break though with too many entries, as NSIS_MAX_STRLEN is 1024 by default.
06:31:37 <ChrisMorgan> So as soon as PATH gets over 1KB that'll be the last one added.
06:31:52 <Chazz> ah :/
06:31:53 <ChrisMorgan> Oh yeah, put in a Push "" before FunctionEnd
06:32:00 <Chazz> ah, ok
06:32:15 <ChrisMorgan> Otherwise the stack gets messed up, that's the way Locate works
06:32:31 <Chazz> and then, that will add EVERYTHING in the specified directory to path (Assuming it stays below 1 kb)?
06:32:41 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
06:33:00 <Chazz> ok, awesome :D
06:33:06 <ChrisMorgan> Not recursively though... if you wanted that you'd remove /G=0
06:33:44 <Chazz> ah, ok
06:33:46 <ChrisMorgan> You'll find that the default NSIS_MAX_STRLEN of 1024 bytes is a real nuisance often.
06:33:57 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think you want recursiveness though.
06:34:05 <Chazz> can you change the default?
06:34:08 <Chazz> and, probally not
06:34:17 <ChrisMorgan> If you recompile NSIS with a different value.
06:34:26 <Chazz> oh :/
06:34:47 <ChrisMorgan> I can't even remember how long environment variables can be.
06:35:02 <ChrisMorgan> Windows 2000 it's much shorter - 1024 characters, I think.
06:35:16 <Chazz> ooh :/
06:35:33 <ChrisMorgan> Same goes with the command execution length, some Java programs with complex classpaths won't work on 2000 because of this..
06:35:50 <Chazz> ah
06:35:56 <Chazz> is 2000 a requirement?
06:36:08 <ChrisMorgan> Pretty much.
06:36:15 <Chazz> :/
06:36:34 <ChrisMorgan> Don't worry about it; it just means that you *may* get reduced functionality on 2000 if they've got lots of programs or installed very deep.
06:36:45 <Chazz> ah
06:36:56 <Chazz> well, i think this isn't too deep, but
06:37:30 <Chazz> would X:/PortableApps/BashPortable/App/Bash/usr/local/wbin/stuff be too deep? (stuff is the file)
06:37:32 <ChrisMorgan> See http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/193022-46-windows-environment-variable-length-limit and the link in the comment
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06:37:57 <Chazz> thanks :)
06:37:58 <ChrisMorgan> That's only 58 characters
06:38:10 <Chazz> and, 1024 is the max?
06:38:18 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look at that link.
06:38:27 <ChrisMorgan> Seems it's 2 or 8 KB
06:38:54 <Chazz> ah, ok
06:38:57 <Chazz> thanks
06:39:18 <ChrisMorgan> Actually, that's just the command line.
06:39:21 <ChrisMorgan> "Even though the Win32 limitation for environment variables is 32,767 characters..."
06:39:34 <Chazz> :o
06:39:53 <ChrisMorgan> Yup, checking on that an environment variable can be that long.
06:40:30 <ChrisMorgan> But Command Prompt will only allow 2KB. And NSIS only less than 1KB (add on the SetEnvironmentVariable etc. stuff) by default due to its string length...
06:40:40 <Chazz> oh :/
06:40:58 <Chazz> oh well, none of my stuff gets that big :D
06:41:08 <ChrisMorgan> None of *your* stuff does, but others..?
06:41:29 <ChrisMorgan> Subtract about 50 characters for the System::Call context.
06:41:50 <ChrisMorgan> Making your practical limit with a stock NSIS build 974 characters.
06:41:59 <Chazz> ooh :/
06:42:41 <ChrisMorgan> And the "average" (i.e. mine whittling off stuff no-one'll have) PATH is already going to be 300-400 characters long.
06:43:05 <ChrisMorgan> Giving you about 6-8 directories in the default location.
06:43:47 <Chazz> wow...
06:44:00 <ChrisMorgan> Which wow?
06:44:06 <ChrisMorgan> wowexec32? :P
06:44:11 <Chazz> heh
06:44:12 <ChrisMorgan> More to the point, why wow?
06:44:30 <ChrisMorgan> You are in awe of my logic? ;-)
06:44:59 <ChrisMorgan> Well I'm going to go do something useful. The XAMPP-Killer awaits.
06:45:10 <Chazz> well, have fun
06:45:12 <ChrisMorgan> Hey, I think I'll codename one of my releases "The XAMPP-Killer" :P
06:45:21 <Chazz> lol, nice
06:45:33 <ChrisMorgan> I'll need total XAMPP compatibility for it first (i.e. preset package selection mode which gets everything XAMPP has)
06:45:47 <ChrisMorgan> You should look at the PHP-GTK codenames... some are quite good.
06:45:52 <Chazz> rly?
06:45:55 <Chazz> can one of the other ones be Shiny Penguines?
06:46:03 <ChrisMorgan> Why?
06:46:12 <ChrisMorgan> I'll need Linux support before that happens.
06:46:20 <Chazz> idk, penguines are awsome :P
06:46:28 <Chazz> oh, ya :/
06:46:47 <ChrisMorgan> You'd find them cooler if you could spell them.
06:46:48 <Chazz> Cheese Aardvarks for a win32 release?
06:46:56 <Chazz> s/cheese/cheesy
06:47:00 <ChrisMorgan> :/
06:47:18 * ChrisMorgan likes penguins... they're cool... literally as well :P
06:47:19 <Chazz> and, i can spell them, but the misspelled version looks funner! :P
06:47:22 <Chazz> lol
06:47:25 <ChrisMorgan> No it doesn't.
06:47:35 <Chazz> ok, fine, ;P
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07:02:15 <pa_1648> hello room
07:02:19 <Chazz> Hello pa_1648
07:02:27 <ChrisMorgan> room says hello pa_1648 :-)
07:02:30 <ChrisMorgan> Can we help you?
07:02:46 <pa_1648> anybody know of a workaround to the issue with windows 7 autorun?
07:03:10 <ChrisMorgan> pa_1648: it can't be got around, it's a security feature in it. And a good idea too.
07:03:25 <pa_1648> I realize the security aspect...
07:03:51 <pa_1648> I read John's blog entry about signing code and allowing those to run
07:04:00 <pa_1648> that would be nice
07:04:13 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think that Microsoft liked that post.
07:04:16 <pa_1648> lol
07:04:24 <ChrisMorgan> They didn't implement it anyway.
07:04:32 <pa_1648> true
07:04:57 <pa_1648> I may have to put U3 back on my cruzer just to make it possible to auto launch *ugh*
07:05:21 <pa_1648> liking 7 though otherwise
07:05:24 <ChrisMorgan> That doesn't work on Windows 7 does it?
07:05:34 <pa_1648> I think it's supposed to?
07:05:42 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, CD things can still autorun'
07:05:48 <pa_1648> since it looks like a CD from the hardware level
07:05:54 <ChrisMorgan> I thought that 7 disabled CD auto-autorun as well
07:05:58 <Chazz> nope
07:05:58 <pa_1648> yes, CD is still supposed to work
07:06:07 <Chazz> ya, it does, just tried it
07:06:09 <ChrisMorgan> Yuck. That is a *real* security risk.
07:06:13 <pa_1648> lol
07:07:10 <pa_1648> anyhoo, just thought I'd check and see if anyone had any other ideas, I guess I will go back to U3 at least to get something to launch
07:07:16 <pa_1648> later
07:07:20 <ChrisMorgan> bye
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07:07:40 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, isn't there some way to replace U3 w/ PAP on u3 enabled drives?
07:07:52 <ChrisMorgan> Not really
07:08:03 <ChrisMorgan> Other than doing it the same way as you would on an ordinary drive.
07:08:10 <ChrisMorgan> Which is, well, I'll tell you.
07:08:12 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know.
07:08:22 <Chazz> o
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08:38:19 <Chazz> hey ChrisMorgan should i UPX the files for Perl Portable (Soon to be released)
08:38:39 <ChrisMorgan> Chazz: if it works, yes.
08:38:52 <Chazz> ok
08:39:05 <Chazz> i wasn'y sure if i shld since it's a compiler and all
08:40:05 <Chazz> *wasn't
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08:53:38 <prapper> Morning all :-)
08:54:07 <Chazz> morning prapper
08:54:28 <prapper> I think the forums are being spammed again :-( As we speak...
08:55:04 <prapper> http://portableapps.com/node/20462
08:55:24 <prapper> http://portableapps.com/node/20463
08:55:30 <prapper> http://portableapps.com/node/20464
08:56:08 <prapper> Oops, am I spamming the chatroom? lol
08:56:18 <Chazz> lol
08:56:27 <prapper> Sorry about that!
08:56:32 <Chazz> prapper, your fine
08:56:48 <prapper> ok, thanks :-)
08:57:28 <Chazz> Well, if we ever need to get cheep, fake drugs... i guess we know where to go! :P
08:57:38 <prapper> :-)
08:58:12 <prapper> I'll never understand it
09:04:09 <Chazz> anyone know of a program that does what trucrypt does. but works normally on Win7?
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09:42:05 <ZachThibeau> more spam >_< http://portableapps.com/forums/support/u3apps
09:42:22 <ZachThibeau> someone let John or a mod know when they come online
09:42:43 <ZachThibeau> I have to go now for work
09:42:54 <Chazz> k
09:44:36 <ZachThibeau> so long far well avidesein au revoir
09:44:49 <ZachThibeau> see ya in 4 hours or so :P
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10:29:33 <Chazz> Hello SpeedMaster
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11:52:23 <pa_2063> i have a question about miranda
11:52:52 <pa_2063> why miranda is started write protected, if i use the portablaapssluncher?
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12:02:33 <Guest35159> why miranda is started write protected, if i use the portableappsluncher?
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12:54:36 <RAYMAN> How to replace Standart Portable App logo?
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12:58:04 <Chazz> RAYMAN, u mean on the menu?
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13:00:55 <RAYMAN> then program is started, screen show a "program name" and "portable app" picture. I want to replace this. (sorry for my English)
13:01:14 <Chazz> ah
13:01:48 <Chazz> you've got to recompile the launcher with either a different splash screen or with the code modified to not use a splash screen
13:03:49 <RAYMAN> How to recopile laucher? what program is needed?
13:04:11 <Chazz> NSIS
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13:06:28 <Guest35159> can somebody help me?
13:07:35 <Mir> we are sleeping
13:07:44 <Mir> be patient
13:07:56 <Mir> irc works slowly
13:07:56 <Guest35159> ok ;)
13:08:00 <Chazz> Mir, go back to lurking :P
13:08:07 <Mir> nein
13:08:15 * Mir go back to bed
13:08:23 <Chazz> lol
13:09:03 <Chazz> Guest35159, what seems to be the problem?
13:09:49 <Whibo> Salut Guest35159
13:10:18 <Guest35159> why i smiranbda started write protected, if i use the porableappsluncher?
13:10:29 <Guest35159> how can i disable that?
13:10:53 <Whibo> Change ton nom Guest35159
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13:11:08 <Whibo> :P
13:11:11 <Whibo> good
13:11:15 <Chazz> Guest35159, in explorer, right click the folder, click properties, and make sure Read-Only is not checked
13:11:26 <Chazz> Whibo, engrish pl0x, kthnxbai
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13:12:04 <Whibo> Chazz Chazz Chazz
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13:12:06 <Whibo> :P
13:12:22 <Kloama> no that did not work
13:12:30 <Kloama> i already tryed that
13:13:03 <Kloama> but it works if i use the miranda.exe in the app folder
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13:26:02 <Kloama> whowas whibo
13:28:02 <Whibo> a guy
13:28:06 <Whibo> :P
13:28:08 <Whibo> .def
13:28:09 <pabot> Whibo: Database error occurred
13:28:16 <Whibo> NOOO
13:28:23 <Chazz> Whibo, pabot's db is messed up
13:28:28 <Whibo> ok
13:28:29 <Whibo> :P
13:28:51 <Whibo> when ya need pabot, he isn't functionnal
13:28:54 <Whibo> :(
13:29:28 <Chazz> yup :/
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13:29:41 <Chazz> too bad we cant just kill him so gizmobot will pop in
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13:41:25 <ZeroA4> Is a post in the forum the only way to report a bug ?
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15:17:35 <Chazz> GizmoBot, ^_^
15:17:54 <Gizmokid2005> I need an SQLITE gui editor...that works
15:17:57 <Gizmokid2005> and I can't find one..
15:18:49 <Gizmokid2005> and I'm pretty sure the tool we use at work doesn't support SQLITE
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15:31:29 <cpp_dev-geo> Is anyone else having trouble getting to portableapps.com? I can get to other sights.... Just not portableapps.com
15:31:44 <Gizmokid2005> cpp_dev-geo: nope, it's working here
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15:31:50 <Gizmokid2005> I've been on it all morning and just tested again
15:31:50 <Chazz> .o down portableapps.com
15:31:56 <GizmoBot> It's up.
15:32:07 <Chazz> cpp_dev-geo, it's up
15:33:13 <cpp_dev-geo> Interesting... I'm not getting there... but can get to google, youtube, msn and pretty much anywhere else I try... :( Something 'local' I guess.
15:33:53 <Gizmokid2005> cpp_dev-geo: probably
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15:54:00 <JohnTHaller> hola
15:56:01 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
15:57:00 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: do you know of/use any sqlite gui editors?
15:57:44 <JohnTHaller> sqlitebrowser
15:58:03 <Gizmokid2005> SQLite Browser 1.3?
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16:01:13 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
16:03:44 <JohnTHaller> hi
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16:09:45 <Chazz> howdy JohnTHaller
16:11:58 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I guess I'm going to have to get rid of the directory moving ability of songbird
16:12:44 <JohnTHaller> It's not really necessary
16:13:40 <Gizmokid2005> it is with this new issue :( the albumart is also stored in the sqlite database, in the main database in the resource_properties table in the obj field where property_id=16, BUT, the storage location is the same location as that of the profile
16:13:58 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not sure of a good way to get a substr to work with that if the folder location changes from the standard X:
16:14:02 <Gizmokid2005> *X:\PortableApps\
16:15:03 <Gizmokid2005> I suppose I could try do to a len() on it.
16:16:26 <Gizmokid2005> but that still doesn't fully take care of it.
16:18:49 <JohnTHaller> If it's too much coding (and too much to maintain) it's not needed. Almost no-one is gonna be moving their music folder around on their portable drive.
16:21:07 <Gizmokid2005> alright. I'll work it in to replace the drive letter, as that's a requirement...but outside of that I'll leave it then.
16:21:25 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: do you have a main db that I can look at
16:21:26 <Gizmokid2005> ?
16:21:48 <JohnTHaller> um huh?
16:22:04 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: do you have a main@library.songbirdnest.com.db file that I can checkout?
16:22:23 <JohnTHaller> Nope. I just created that one quick to make a screenshot. I haven't switched to Songbird yet
16:22:29 <Gizmokid2005> alrighty
16:23:04 <Gizmokid2005> I just want to see if there is going to be any difference in the property ID that is being used...though I guess it doesn't matter, anywhere in the database that a drive letter is stored it needs to be changed, regardless of the property_id
16:27:14 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 thats a file for songbird i assume?
16:27:18 <Bensawsome> i can give ya mine...
16:27:21 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yeah it is
16:27:26 <Bensawsome> k
16:27:28 * Bensawsome uploads
16:27:28 <Gizmokid2005> in your \profile\db\ folder
16:27:30 <Gizmokid2005> thanks Bensawsome
16:27:32 <Gizmokid2005> or you can email it
16:27:33 <Bensawsome> wait
16:27:38 <Bensawsome> you want the portable one?
16:27:44 <Bensawsome> or normal. or does it matter
16:27:44 <Gizmokid2005> doesn't matter actually, as long as its 1.2
16:27:49 <Bensawsome> ok
16:27:51 <Bensawsome> hmmm
16:28:06 <Gizmokid2005> unless its huge like mine (40MB ish) then just UL and I'll grab it
16:28:14 <Bensawsome> lol
16:28:15 <Bensawsome> ok
16:28:16 <Bensawsome> :P
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16:29:24 <Bensawsome> what data does that one contain Gizmokid2005? just the list of songs?
16:29:39 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: all kinds of stuff, but anything in the db folder contains media information
16:29:45 <Bensawsome> ah ok
16:30:01 <Gizmokid2005> the passwords/cache/etc are stored in the .sqlite files like Firefox in the root of the profile folder
16:30:04 * Bensawsome doiuble checks that it's 1.2
16:30:09 <Bensawsome> aaah ok cool
16:30:29 <Bensawsome> i mean im sure you wont do anything with em but if u get haxored or something D:
16:30:36 <Bensawsome> like stupid mbw =_+
16:31:14 <Bensawsome> ok cool i haz 1.2 :#
16:31:27 <Gizmokid2005> lol
16:31:32 <Bensawsome> ummm ill just email it then. 8 megabutes isnt much :/
16:31:36 <Gizmokid2005> I just want to check something then it's going buhbye
16:31:36 <Gizmokid2005> k
16:32:12 <Bensawsome> lol ok
16:36:03 <Bensawsome> it be uploading >_>
16:36:08 <Gizmokid2005> k
16:36:09 <Bensawsome> to mai mail that is
16:37:11 <Bensawsome> lol sending
16:37:15 <Bensawsome> could take a few though :/
16:38:33 <Gizmokid2005> alright
16:38:39 <Bensawsome> cool it got sent Gizmokid2005 :3
16:38:52 <Gizmokid2005> k, it's dling
16:39:09 <Bensawsome> ^_^
16:39:20 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Dia Portable 0.97: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-08-19_-_dia_portable_0.97
16:40:03 <Gizmokid2005> wtg JohnTHaller
16:40:11 <Gizmokid2005> Pidgin 2.6.1 is now avail for dl! :D
16:40:50 <JohnTHaller> sure they're not gonna pull it in 5 minutes?
16:40:54 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 only for linux
16:40:57 <Bensawsome> but
16:41:03 <Bensawsome> IT SUPPORTS GOOGLE VIDEO AND VOICE
16:41:06 <Bensawsome> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
16:41:13 <Bensawsome> ok bbiab
16:41:29 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: LOL with the way the release frenzy went yesterday who knows
16:41:36 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: no, it's now windows finally
16:41:38 <Gizmokid2005> that's what I was saying
16:41:41 <Gizmokid2005> linux was yesterday
16:41:47 <Gizmokid2005> they finally build windows today
16:44:02 <Gizmokid2005> and thanks Bensawsome, I got what I needed.
16:45:07 <JohnTHaller> back in a few... Pidgin time...
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16:56:51 <Bensawsome> oh
16:56:53 <Bensawsome> really?!
16:56:55 <Bensawsome> WEWT
16:57:09 <Bensawsome> WEWTAGE
16:57:24 <Gizmokid2005> Yup
16:57:25 <Bensawsome> darn they dont have it for osx yet >_>
16:57:31 <Gizmokid2005> that's why John went buhbye
16:57:39 <Gizmokid2005> look at the changelog
16:57:45 <Gizmokid2005> there's epic rawfulz in there
16:58:11 <Gizmokid2005> 2.5.9-2.6.1 were all released yesterday according to it
16:58:12 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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17:08:47 <Bensawsome> lol
17:08:49 <Bensawsome> wow
17:08:51 <Bensawsome> fail
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17:09:55 <JohnTHaller> back
17:10:03 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Pidgin Portable 2.6.1: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-08-19_-_pidgin_portable_2.6.1
17:10:36 <Chazz> woo!
17:11:24 <Whibo> :o
17:13:12 <Bensawsome> wow fast JohnTHaller
17:13:27 <Bensawsome> nice one :3
17:22:01 <Gizmokid2005> YAY thanks JohnTHaller
17:31:54 <Gizmokid2005> updated :)
17:31:56 <Gizmokid2005> new icons again I see
17:32:05 <Bensawsome> :3
17:32:15 <Bensawsome> wow
17:32:21 <Bensawsome> al;l my old plugins work too :D
17:32:26 <Gizmokid2005> same
17:32:34 <Gizmokid2005> though I don't see how GV is supposed to work.
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20:14:17 <SergentSiler> i lold x3
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21:01:52 <LOGAN> good day
21:02:09 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello LOGAN
21:03:04 <LOGAN> anyone ever heard of vvcap? it makes a screenshot and puts it online and puts url in clipboard to paste. and its open source on sourceforge
21:06:55 <LOGAN> i guess everyone's asleep
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22:56:54 <profwashu> Hi, does anyone know how to add custom folders to the platform its self? as in how do I code them in? I am lazy, but I know HTML.
22:57:31 <Gizmokid2005> profwashu: there is no way right not
22:57:33 <Gizmokid2005> 8now
22:57:36 <Gizmokid2005> *now
22:57:38 <Gizmokid2005> with our menu
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22:59:03 <profwashu> Ok, thats something that you should make possible. I am an MCP. I would like to have all of my software set up my type (office updates, service pacts, images; ect) it would make my tech work a whole lot better.
22:59:25 <Gizmokid2005> it's set to be released in the future, but at the time not possible
23:00:19 <profwashu> ALSO, as a future add on, you should support protable Virt PC, AS it is, how you can make this better, is really minior, as it is, Ilove it
23:00:35 <profwashu> GOOD WORK! thanks for your help!
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23:49:51 <pa_6819> how can i create my own start exe
23:50:09 <pa_6819> like the one that starts the actual app?
23:50:20 <Chazz> write and compile a launcher for it
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