IRC Log from 2009-08-21
00:00:01 <Gizmokid2005> me too sar3th, but I have no pizza
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00:17:39 <pa_6383> how do i unistall a program
00:18:28 <OliverK> delete the program's folder
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00:18:55 <pa_6383> what about removing it from the menu?
00:19:26 <Gizmokid2005> pa_6383: just hit Options > Refresh App Icons after you delete the folder and it will disappear
00:20:21 <pa_6383> thanks!
00:20:28 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome pa_6383
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02:38:59 <ZachThibeau> dbdii407: leguin is back :D
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05:41:58 <Chazz> ello ChrisMorgan
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05:44:31 <Chazz> g'bye ChrisMorgan :P
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05:44:44 <ChrisMorgan> hi, bi
05:44:51 * ChrisMorgan works on gVim Portable
05:44:56 <Asleep> lol
05:44:59 <ChrisMorgan> ... a change from Manta :P
05:45:12 <Asleep> nice :P
05:45:25 <ChrisMorgan> I'm glad John didn't publish it as final...
05:45:33 <Asleep> ya! :/
05:45:35 <ChrisMorgan> It's got a (comparatively) lousy launcher.
05:45:40 <Asleep> ooh :/
05:45:49 <ChrisMorgan> And it's not got the OLE-free build
05:45:58 <ChrisMorgan> That is, compared to my more recent rewrite of it.
05:46:04 <ChrisMorgan> I just hadn't got round to another DT :P
05:46:16 <Asleep> oh
05:46:18 <ChrisMorgan> I was planning on waiting for PR if it would come... and it has :D
05:46:25 <Asleep> nice :D
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05:47:19 <Asleep> ChrisMorgan, if we think an app is ready for release, do we just sit and wait for one of the PR team to notice, or do we tell someone?
05:47:33 <Asleep> s/someone/one of the PR peoples
05:47:33 <ChrisMorgan> You ask John about it.
05:47:38 <Asleep> ah, ok
05:47:43 <ChrisMorgan> That's about it.
05:47:55 <Asleep> that sounds easy enough :D
05:47:58 <ChrisMorgan> "After the Release Team reform" :P things may be different
05:48:05 <Asleep> ah :P
05:48:42 <Asleep> well, once i get the usertools PATH thing figured out, Bash Portable /should/ be ready for release
05:48:51 <Asleep> ^_^
05:49:05 <ChrisMorgan> You haven't yet?
05:49:46 <ChrisMorgan> If not and if you like, send me your code, and I'll add it for you.
05:49:52 <Asleep> no, i decided i'd postponed releasing Perl Porable too long and finished that last night, then took a no-coding night today
05:50:09 <ChrisMorgan> no-coding! How did you survive? ;-)
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05:50:48 <Asleep> LOTS of music :P. And, you helping like that would be awsome, but i'd probally better figure it out for future :P
05:51:16 <ChrisMorgan> You might find it useful either way. You decide.
05:52:05 <Asleep> maybe you could do a couple so i can see what your doing, then i could try to get the rest?
05:52:29 <ChrisMorgan> A couple of what? With the environment variable adding it's all or nothing if you do it the most efficient way.
05:52:36 <Asleep> oh
05:52:36 <ChrisMorgan> WIth Locate, that is
05:53:14 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, I posted what I think would be perfect code for it on Wednesday afternoon... very early morning for you or maybe Tuesday night
05:53:46 <Asleep> ya, i have the locate part in, it's the System::Call stuff i don't get
05:54:16 <ChrisMorgan> OK; let's say $R1 is the new PATH.
05:54:22 <Asleep> ok
05:54:32 <ChrisMorgan> System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("PATH", R1).n'
05:54:56 <Asleep> and, that would add R1 to PATH?
05:55:11 <ChrisMorgan> No, that would /set/ PATH to the contents of $R1
05:55:14 <ChrisMorgan> Not add.
05:55:41 <Asleep> ya, thats what i ment
05:55:44 <ChrisMorgan> That R1 bit works like this: r0-r9 refer to $0-$9, R0-R9 refer to $R0-$R9, "string" is a string (thus R1 is the same as "$R1" but less effective)
05:55:48 <ChrisMorgan> yep
05:56:34 <Asleep> so, how do i define what R1 is?
05:56:53 <ChrisMorgan> (As for the .n bit at the end, you'll find most launchers have it as .r2 but it's a waste, so I changed it to ignoring the response (n) rather than setting $2 to the content of it (r2))
05:57:00 <ChrisMorgan> StrCpy $R1 xyz
05:57:06 <ChrisMorgan> Just like normal
05:57:08 <Asleep> ah, ok
05:57:48 <ChrisMorgan> So here is an example snippet from gVim Portable:
05:57:49 <ChrisMorgan> ${GetParent} "${PROGRAMDIRECTORY}" $0
05:57:49 <ChrisMorgan> System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("VIM", r0).n'
05:57:49 <ChrisMorgan> System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("VIMRUNTIME", "${PROGRAMDIRECTORY}").n'
05:57:49 <ChrisMorgan> System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("HOME", "${SETTINGSDIRECTORY}").n'
05:58:26 <Asleep> ah, ok
05:58:31 <ChrisMorgan> That gets the parent of ${PROGRAMDIRECTORY} ($EXEDIR\App\vim\vim72 --> $EXEDIR\App\vim) and sets VIM to that, then VIMRUNTIME to ${PROGRAMDIRECTORY}, then HOME to ${SETTINGSDIRECTORY}
05:58:54 <Asleep> oh
06:03:09 <Asleep> ChrisMorgan, is this right:
06:03:12 <Asleep> ReadEnvStr $R1 PATH
06:03:13 <Asleep> ${Locate} "$EXEDIR\App\Bash\usr\local\wbin" "/L=D /G=0" "AddDirectoryToPath"
06:03:13 <Asleep> StrCpy $R1 "$R1, $EXEDIR\App\Bash\usr\local\wbin"
06:03:13 <Asleep> System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("PATH", R1).n
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06:03:44 <ChrisMorgan> Line 3 is wonky
06:04:01 <Asleep> oh :/
06:04:03 <ChrisMorgan> StrCpy $R1 "$R1;$EXEDIR\App\Bash\usr\local\wbin"
06:04:12 <ChrisMorgan> Not ", ", paths are separated just with ;
06:04:26 <ChrisMorgan> And AddDirectoryToPath should have inside it:
06:04:38 <ChrisMorgan> StrCpy $R1 "$R1;$R9"
06:04:41 <ChrisMorgan> Push ""
06:08:41 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, as you said, goodnight :D
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06:08:50 <Asleep> ok, is /this/ right? http://dabomb69.pastebin.com/m4ebdde5c
06:09:03 <Asleep> oh, your leaving? :/
06:09:08 <ChrisMorgan> No, you are :P
06:09:12 <Asleep> oh :P
06:09:29 * Asleep won't be able to sleep till he gets this to work :P
06:10:37 <Asleep> so, ChrisMorgan, is that one right?
06:10:49 <ChrisMorgan> http://dabomb69.pastebin.com/d129a9e56
06:11:24 <ChrisMorgan> I moved adding wbin itself to the path to the start just to be sure it'd get added first (remember the 1KB max string length issue)
06:11:43 <Asleep> oh
06:12:18 <ChrisMorgan> $R9 inside the callback is the full path of the found file.
06:12:49 <Asleep> ah, ok
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06:13:41 <pa_2216> hi
06:13:43 <Asleep> hello pa_2216
06:13:47 <ChrisMorgan> Hello pa_2216! Can we help you?
06:14:08 <pa_2216> i was wondering how u install portable apps on ur usb
06:14:31 <ChrisMorgan> Just download them and run the installer.
06:14:46 <pa_2216> ahh k
06:15:36 <pa_2216> thanks
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06:17:05 <ChrisMorgan> Asleep: line 4 adds wbin to the new path string, line 11 adds each of its subdirectories as it's called by ${Locate}, then line 6 actually sets PATH to that new value.
06:17:36 <Asleep> but, will it only add dir's, or will it add the files within the dirs?
06:17:51 <ChrisMorgan> Files can't be added to PATH - just directories.
06:17:58 <ChrisMorgan> PATH is directories to search for things in.
06:18:20 * Asleep cannot think this morning :/
06:19:56 <ChrisMorgan> Would you expect to be able at that time of morning? Go to sleep.
06:20:24 <ChrisMorgan> It might also be doing some research later (*later*)into variable expansion; I /think/ that you could set the env var "wbin" to "$EXEDIR\App\Bash\usr\local\wbin" and then change the StrCpy in the callback to "$R1;%wbin%\$R7" instead of "$R1;$R9". You might like to try that (after releasing it as it is)
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06:30:56 <pa_0830> how can i add an application in portableapps.com ?
06:31:31 <ChrisMorgan> .def addingapps
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06:31:46 <ChrisMorgan> .def addingapps
06:31:47 <GizmoBot> addingapps is about adding applications to the PortableApps.com Menu; read http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps for details.
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06:35:01 <pa_0830> i used options -- Add application but it does not show the app in ( as our program extention is just .exe) do i need to change extention to ".paf.exe" ?
06:35:52 <ChrisMorgan> pa_0830: add applications is for installing PortableApps.com Format applications. Do you want that, or other, non-PortableApps.com applications?
06:35:59 <ChrisMorgan> If the latter, refer to
06:36:02 <ChrisMorgan> .def addingapps
06:36:03 <GizmoBot> addingapps is about adding applications to the PortableApps.com Menu; read http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps for details.
06:38:52 <pa_0830> let me be clear again .. we have our own program ( MySQL GUI) which we made portable in the latest release, can you please suggest how it will get listed in portableapps.com and information @ it too how we can add..?
06:39:17 <ChrisMorgan> Read http://portableapps.com/development
06:39:51 <ChrisMorgan> If you want to have it an official app, first of all you'll need to put it into the PortableApps.com Format
06:39:58 <ChrisMorgan> Then it goes in the Beta Testing forum.
06:40:03 <ChrisMorgan> Then it gets forgotten about :P
06:40:08 <ChrisMorgan> Well, hopefully not ;-)
06:40:33 <ChrisMorgan> If it's a good program then it eventually works its way into the PortableApps.com application directory.
06:41:29 <pa_0830> thanks for the information i will go through the links and get back to you
06:41:35 <ChrisMorgan> OK
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07:08:38 * Asleep lold
07:09:01 <ChrisMorgan> Asleep: shall I remove you from here too? ;-)
07:09:15 <ChrisMorgan> I could just mute you... :P
07:09:19 <Asleep> heh :P
07:09:28 <ChrisMorgan> Go to sleep... or I'll kick you citing health concerns
07:09:40 <Asleep> lol, bye :P
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07:12:50 <pa_8840> hello
07:13:08 <ChrisMorgan> Hello pa_8840! Can we help you?
07:13:34 <pa_8840> can you tell me how to rearrange the icons on the launch menu
07:14:14 <ChrisMorgan> Currently this isn't supported; 2.0 Beta 3 can send things to the top of the menu though.
07:14:23 <ChrisMorgan> Look in the Beta forum for that.
07:15:03 <pa_8840> oh ok thank a million bye
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13:31:02 <PatrickPatience1> Are we sure the topic is long enough?
13:31:14 <PatrickPatience1> I can add some stuff about my day yesterday if it's not.
13:33:53 <OliverK> haha
13:33:58 <OliverK> morning
13:34:48 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> PatrickPatience1: no, actually it's not :P
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13:39:13 <OliverK> I could add this newstory
13:39:13 <OliverK> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090821/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_poll
13:39:52 <Gizmokid2005> lol
13:39:55 <Gizmokid2005> is it not a surprise though?
13:40:02 <OliverK> well . . .
13:40:15 <Gizmokid2005> I can't truly say I'm surptise
13:40:18 <Gizmokid2005> *surprised
13:40:21 <OliverK> :D
13:40:37 <OliverK> join #portableapps-bets for more po-lit-ical talk :D
13:41:26 <OliverK> obama rode into office on popularity from the media and the buzz he generated with his tech-no savvy
13:41:45 <OliverK> no that people really know what he's peddling, i'm not suprised there unhappy as well
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13:42:06 <OliverK> but you also have to remember that his stuff can't get signed without the democratic senators
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13:52:17 <WifiWombat3000> my bad
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14:37:25 <SteveLamerton> Hello everyone :)
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14:49:59 <OliverK> howdy SteveLamerton
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14:50:21 <SteveLamerton> Heya OliverK
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17:22:05 <OliverK> and he's back!
17:22:15 <SteveLamerton> Who, me?
17:22:31 <OliverK> yeah you
17:22:42 <SteveLamerton> Hard to deny really isn't it ;)
17:23:36 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: not if you /part
17:23:37 <Gizmokid2005> ;)
17:23:48 <SteveLamerton> Heya Gizmokid2005
17:23:53 <Gizmokid2005> hi SteveLamerton :)
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17:31:06 <pa_7756> hello
17:31:31 <pa_7756> can someone tell me in which folder do I have to install the programms
17:31:50 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7756: typically you'd install the platform to the root of your flash drive
17:32:02 <Gizmokid2005> then when you install apps after that, they'll automatically find the proper location to install to
17:32:43 <pa_7756> for instance
17:33:04 <pa_7756> i installed the portable menu programm to the root
17:33:27 <pa_7756> nw I would like to install firefox but firefox asks wich folder to installa?
17:34:02 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7756: if you download the firefox portable installer from our site, and have the platform running, it will automatically choose the correct location
17:34:20 <pa_7756> oke thanks
17:34:22 <Gizmokid2005> which would be X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\ (where X: is the current drive letter of your drive)
17:34:25 <pa_7756> I will try then
17:37:02 <pa_7756> it worked
17:37:13 <pa_7756> thank you very very much!
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17:38:47 <OliverK> Gizmokid2005: you don't *have* to have the menu running
17:38:54 <Gizmokid2005> I know OliverK :)
17:39:45 <OliverK> okay
17:47:55 <SteveLamerton> I have joined the dark side ;) Toucan now uses Visual Studio rather than GCC!
17:48:37 <Gizmokid2005> oh no SteveLamerton!!!
17:48:38 <Gizmokid2005> lol
17:50:03 <SteveLamerton> I gave in to the better debugger, faster compiles and that fact that my exes are now almost half the size after upx
17:51:14 <OliverK> wow
17:51:16 <OliverK> welcome
17:51:21 <OliverK> and here's a cookie :D
17:51:33 <SteveLamerton> Ooohhh a cookie :D
17:53:45 <Gizmokid2005> yay SteveLamerton :)
17:54:10 * sar3th was rejected by the dark side D: D: D:
17:54:32 * sar3th cannot debug with vs
17:54:37 <sar3th> but i can compile though :D
17:59:04 <ZachThibeau> ohai SteveLamerton and congrats I use Visual Studio too for my wxwidgets project :3
17:59:22 <ZachThibeau> I may as well since I have a 3 year subscription to msdn :P
17:59:51 * OliverK gets visual studio 2008 thru the school :D
17:59:56 <SteveLamerton> Thanks ZachThibeau, I will have to update the how to compile toucan doc now though!
18:00:06 <ZachThibeau> lol true
18:00:27 <ZachThibeau> I suggest keeping the mingw instructions though so users stuck with mingw can still compile it :P
18:00:57 <SteveLamerton> Yes, I will, it should work nicely in both :)
18:01:21 <ZachThibeau> it does for me with MusicPlay3000 :)
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18:02:44 <SteveLamerton> 843KB versus 1.28MB after UPX, I might need to add in an extra dll though, not sure
18:02:50 <ZachThibeau> and SteveLamerton mind moving this thread to the request forum http://portableapps.com/node/20505
18:03:16 <ZachThibeau> and SteveLamerton maybe not ;) I got my wxwidgets that is statically compiled working properly in Visual Studio :)
18:03:17 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, that reminds me. I need to get to work on UltraVNC :(
18:03:21 <ZachThibeau> and mine is mingw compiled
18:03:32 <gluxon> ...
18:03:40 <gluxon> Do you recompile all your apps?
18:03:58 <ZachThibeau> gluxon: only the ones we make ourselves
18:04:13 <sar3th> ZachThibeau: that's nothing :P i managed static linking w/ qt and MSVC :D
18:04:23 <ZachThibeau> eww qt
18:04:23 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau, I am statically compiled to wxWidgets, not to the C++ runtime though (not sure if I need to be though)
18:04:36 <ZachThibeau> hmm
18:04:40 <andreasma> hi
18:04:45 <sar3th> hi andreasma
18:04:45 <ZachThibeau> afaik there maybe a way to statically compile it
18:04:52 <andreasma> hi sar3th
18:05:01 <sar3th> ZachThibeau: if you find out, tell me :D
18:05:42 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I need to recompile wxwidgets to do it though ;)
18:05:45 <ZachThibeau> I mean I compile vba-m in visual studio 2008 and no problems with the runtime on a fresh vm
18:05:49 <ZachThibeau> of windows xp
18:06:10 <SteveLamerton> Maybe not then, would you mind testing this toucan build for me (I dont have a clean vm handy)
18:06:18 <ZachThibeau> sure
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18:06:31 <SteveLamerton> Cheers, I'll send you an email ;)
18:07:06 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello all
18:07:22 <SteveLamerton> Heya Oni-Neoxes
18:07:38 <OliverK> howdy Oni-Neoxes i
18:08:30 * ZachThibeau waits for link from SteveLamerton
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18:09:16 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau has an email ;)
18:09:22 <ZachThibeau> lol ok
18:09:37 <sar3th> wow, my app also des run on a clean xpvm
18:10:06 <ZachThibeau> uhmm SteveLamerton what address? I have a new one
18:10:24 <SteveLamerton> Really, the gmail one, I'll upload it somewhere then!
18:10:38 <ZachThibeau> yeah it's zachary.thibeau@gmail.com now :P
18:10:50 <ZachThibeau> yes everyone I did type that out :P
18:11:34 <SteveLamerton> Grab it here then : http://drop.io/toucantest ;) And I'll update my contact!
18:12:07 <sar3th> D: @ VT/x
18:12:31 <ZachThibeau> I don't have VT/x :(
18:12:39 <ZachThibeau> so it's emulated hardware for me
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18:13:00 <SteveLamerton> Nor me :(
18:13:08 <sar3th> D:
18:13:10 <gluxon> Hello pa_7320, need help with anything?
18:13:17 <pa_7320> is it possible to load google sync on using portableapps?
18:13:40 <gluxon> It's a web app right?
18:13:46 <pa_7320> no, its an .exe
18:14:00 <gluxon> link?
18:14:15 <pa_7320> http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=98563
18:14:17 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7320: it's doubtful, most Google stuff isn't licensed in a way that allows us to make it portable
18:14:31 <pa_7320> uber lameness on the licensing
18:14:41 <Gizmokid2005> while I agree completely, there's nothing we can do about it :(
18:14:53 <gluxon> ... yeah there is...
18:15:01 <gluxon> Somebody makes a launcher...
18:15:14 <sar3th> gluxon: it won't change the license though
18:15:24 <gluxon> ... but it'll be portable.
18:15:44 <pa_7320> what is a launcher?
18:15:53 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: true, but that doesn't make it official or anythign :(
18:15:55 <gluxon> The app that makes our program portable.
18:16:01 <gluxon> Such as FirefoxPortable.exe
18:16:04 <pa_7320> disclaimer: i'm a newb
18:16:06 <gluxon> Or EclipsePortable.exe :P :D
18:16:16 <gluxon> And why not just use Sunbird Portable?
18:16:26 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: read what it does...
18:16:55 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: that syncs between an outlook calendar, which typically contain exchange event
18:16:55 <Gizmokid2005> s
18:17:05 <pa_7320> cuz i'm trying to get outlook 2003 data from exchange to push into a google calendar
18:17:05 <Gizmokid2005> which cannot be used in sunbird...no exchange compatibility
18:17:08 <gluxon> oh.
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18:18:13 <pa_7320> at the end of the day, i'm just trying to get exchange calendar info into google calendar so i can see it in my iphone :S
18:18:58 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7320: do you know what version of exchange you're using?
18:19:18 <pa_7320> 5.5 i think. its not current, that i know for sure
18:19:42 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7320: ahh, same boat I'm in....Since OS3 supports exchange calendars and stuff, but it has to be UTD exchang to work :(
18:19:47 <Gizmokid2005> *exchange
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18:24:59 <pa_7320> the real problem is that iphone only allows one exchange account
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18:25:51 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm. I never ran into that issue, then again I never tried to set it up on my ipod touch as we have Exchange 4? maybe 5 at work and it's not compatible
18:27:04 <pa_7320> google 'sync' uses the iphone activesync account so you cannot add a second one
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19:36:41 <gluxon> Gizmokid2005: Sorry if I'm being really really really annoying but... It's been a really long time since I started my phenny bot and I forgot how to identify him to NickServ...
19:36:55 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: just set the password in the config file
19:37:06 <gluxon> but that isn't implanted yet...
19:37:08 <Gizmokid2005> or do a /msg <botname> .msg nickserv identify <password>
19:37:09 <Gizmokid2005> yes it is
19:37:16 <Gizmokid2005> the SERVER password isn't
19:37:17 <Gizmokid2005> to ID it is
19:37:34 <gluxon> oh is see, a new version came out.
19:37:38 <Gizmokid2005> no
19:37:46 <Gizmokid2005> just enter it like this
19:38:00 <Gizmokid2005> nick = 'Bot'
19:38:01 <Gizmokid2005> password = 'pass'
19:38:01 <Gizmokid2005> host = 'irc.server.net'
19:38:06 <gluxon> k.
19:38:09 <gluxon> thanks.
19:38:09 <Gizmokid2005> in the config
19:38:11 <Gizmokid2005> and it will work fine
19:38:12 <Gizmokid2005> np
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19:46:11 <andreasma> bye
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19:55:15 <hsnopi> hello, anyone home?
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19:55:40 <Gizmokid2005> hsnopi: what can we do for you?
19:56:14 <hsnopi> hey I was considering the differences betweent his and U3. I need UltaEdit for my consulting. Does an app have to be specifically written to run on portableapp?
19:56:19 <hsnopi> his=this
19:58:53 <Gizmokid2005> hsnopi: U3 is an out of date, not as friendly platform as PortableApps.com
19:59:00 <Gizmokid2005> but they are the same concept
19:59:22 <hsnopi> ok, i have never used either one.
19:59:36 <Gizmokid2005> the appd doesn't HAVE to be made in to any specific format to work with our platform, it just means it won't conform to our standards of being truly portable, or in our backup mechanisms
20:00:23 <Gizmokid2005> I know Notepad++ has a lot of the same features as ultraedit if you want to try that
20:00:34 <hsnopi> the reason i ask is as follows. I need UE. They have released a "portable" version. However, I already own UE and don't see the need to buy it twice if I can avoid it. Can I install UE on PA and not have to repurchase it>?
20:00:37 <Gizmokid2005> you can also post an app request in the Request Apps forum
20:01:02 <Gizmokid2005> You can hsnopi, it just won't conform to our standards in backups and true portability
20:01:08 <hsnopi> ok.
20:01:12 <Gizmokid2005> you could try and see if you can make their standard version portable, by whatever mechanism they use
20:01:17 <Gizmokid2005> but we can't do it, as it's not FOSS
20:01:28 <Gizmokid2005> you could also talk to them about getting the portable version
20:01:28 <hsnopi> i will give it a shot and see what happens. thanks
20:01:32 <Gizmokid2005> but unfortunately we can't do it :(
20:01:34 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome
20:01:45 <hsnopi> no worries. i appreciat e the help have a good weekend
20:01:53 <Gizmokid2005> you also hsnopi
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20:02:43 <sar3th> :D
20:02:46 <sar3th> i win
20:02:56 <sar3th> my apps run without any runtime stuff
20:03:39 <Gizmokid2005> :P
20:03:59 <sar3th> wrong Gizmokid2005, :D not :P
20:04:08 <Gizmokid2005> :P @ "I win"
20:04:09 <Gizmokid2005> :P
20:05:09 <sar3th> lolo? /me does not get it, but nevermind
20:05:17 <Gizmokid2005> lol
20:05:17 <Gizmokid2005> :P
20:05:39 <sar3th> anyway, it rules :D
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22:17:35 <Chazz> .seen johnthaller
22:17:35 <pabot> Sorry, I haven't seen johnthaller around.
22:17:43 <Chazz> gewd :/
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22:19:05 <Gizmokid2005> Chazz: yesterday
22:19:32 <Chazz> Gizmokid2005, ya, i wanted to see if i'd missed him today
22:19:47 <Chazz> luckily, i havent :D
22:20:03 <Gizmokid2005> nope
22:20:03 <Gizmokid2005> not yet
22:20:15 <Gizmokid2005> gah, I need to start working on UltraVNC again
22:20:16 <Gizmokid2005> registry entries be damned
22:20:17 <Gizmokid2005> lol
22:20:20 <sar3th> ultravnc ftw :D
22:20:21 <Chazz> oh, cool! a VNC client!
22:20:23 <Gizmokid2005> (that's what jth said)
22:20:52 <Chazz> lol, ya :P
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22:39:19 <spgSCOTT> hello...
22:39:40 <Chazz> hello spgSCOTT
22:40:03 <spgSCOTT> ok so it does work, got a little question for the devs...
22:40:11 <Gizmokid2005> hey spgSCOTT :)
22:40:12 <Gizmokid2005> ask away
22:40:25 <spgSCOTT> are any of the apps built on delphi?
22:40:37 <Gizmokid2005> spgSCOTT: only the platform
22:40:39 <Chazz> the menu is
22:41:16 <spgSCOTT> Ok...are you aware of the 'new' delphi issues (the menu is clean BTW)
22:41:58 <Gizmokid2005> spgSCOTT: the person you'd want to check with is John T. Haller
22:42:05 <Gizmokid2005> he's the only one that works on the platform
22:42:54 <spgSCOTT> Ok, well I did post a thread about it in the Gen Forum, but I wasn't sure if anyone saw it etc.
22:43:11 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, john most likely will
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22:45:44 <spgSCOTT> Well, since it is 'old' and the detection is new, and the menu doesn't alert, I imagine that John was lucky with it...
22:45:56 <Gizmokid2005> probably
22:47:24 <spgSCOTT> Are there any others that are delphi? - I know there is a launcher for a delphi program that was updated (cleaned) so didn't bother posting there...
22:47:42 <Gizmokid2005> I don't think so
22:47:45 <Gizmokid2005> the apps themselves, maybe
22:47:49 <Gizmokid2005> but all the launchers and installers are NSIS
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22:49:12 <spgSCOTT> Yeah, I know the launchers are nsis but was referring to the program one was for, but if everything is clean then I'm good :)
22:49:12 <spgSCOTT> Thanks
22:49:21 <Gizmokid2005> yeah I'd imagine they are good
22:49:26 <Gizmokid2005> can't say for sure, but most likely
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22:55:06 <Gizmokid2005> well, hopefully I get an answer from them soon: http://forum.ultravnc.info/viewtopic.php?p=61520#61520
22:55:27 <Gizmokid2005> I found an old version of it, but the launcher doesn't touch anything in the registry, and the current version doesn't seem to have any portable switch that I can find.
22:56:05 <spgSCOTT> Huh???
22:56:16 <Gizmokid2005> spgSCOTT: to make UltraVNC Viewer portable
22:56:58 <sar3th> spgSCOTT: the virus you mentioned only affects delphi versions <=7
22:57:07 <spgSCOTT> Oh, yeah, I thought you were referring to me about the other thing hehe
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22:58:25 <spgSCOTT> @sar3th: Yes I am aware, but there are many 'FPs' being reported at the mo, and wanted to let those here know just incase ;)
22:58:54 <sar3th> okay, just checking
22:59:07 <sar3th> and by the way, you can leave out the @ in front of the name, spgSCOTT ;)
22:59:17 <spgSCOTT> you wouldn't realise how many 'new' programs are infected
22:59:20 <spgSCOTT> ok :)
22:59:58 <sar3th> yeah, qip was one of them :/
23:00:09 <spgSCOTT> qip?
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23:00:43 <sar3th> yeah
23:00:46 <sar3th> a messenger
23:00:57 <sar3th> only supports icq protocol
23:01:08 <spgSCOTT> ok...
23:01:15 <spgSCOTT> they fixed it yet?
23:02:11 <sar3th> yes
23:02:20 <sar3th> build 8095 is virus-free
23:02:27 <sar3th> avira detects the delphi-virus :)
23:02:31 <spgSCOTT> Nice :)
23:03:35 <spgSCOTT> The one thing I didn't like was many companies claimed they patched their software for a false positive - lying to the user :-(
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23:07:05 <sar3th> yeah
23:11:49 <spgSCOTT> One example: http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=3745
23:11:59 <spgSCOTT> it's really wrong...
23:14:20 <spgSCOTT> anyway, thanks for teh help guys :) i'm off...
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23:19:44 <Chazz> morning ChrisMorgan
23:20:02 <ChrisMorgan> Afternoon/evening Chazz :D
23:20:07 <ChrisMorgan> Which would you call it?
23:20:24 <Chazz> afternoon
23:20:30 <sar3th> "night"
23:20:35 <Chazz> lol
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23:21:07 <sar3th> 01:34 is night definetely
23:21:20 <ChrisMorgan> sar3th: you're in a /slightly/ different time zone.
23:21:23 <Chazz> sar3th, early morning :P
23:21:30 <ChrisMorgan> Goodnight sar3th, you should be asleep :D
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23:21:47 <Chazz> lol
23:23:23 <ChrisMorgan> Now, let me see... what must I do today... compile gVim with "+ole " removed... publish the new version of Data Crow Portable...
23:25:29 <Chazz> test out Bash Portable v3... :P
23:25:43 <ChrisMorgan> s/v/DT/ ?
23:26:14 <Chazz> i like v, it looks cooler :P
23:26:23 <Chazz> but ya, DT 3 :P
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