IRC Log from 2009-08-22
00:03:11 <ChrisMorgan> There... I just did something which I just haven't been getting round to for almost a year and a half... booking in for a learner's permit test. Uh oh.
00:03:21 <ChrisMorgan> Don't drive if you visit Melbourne ;-)
00:03:23 <Chazz> :o
00:03:40 <ChrisMorgan> I just hadn't got round to it. And finally I did.
00:04:04 <Chazz> *gasps*
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00:04:13 <ChrisMorgan> Verily.
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00:14:30 <sar3th> i'm going to bed now
00:14:37 <sar3th> 6hrs of sleep remain
00:14:38 <sar3th> bye
00:14:38 <ChrisMorgan> So you should :D
00:14:40 <ChrisMorgan> g'nite :-)
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00:23:41 * Mir just bought Microsoft office 2007 Enterprise Corporate license for 27.93USD
00:23:49 <Mir> MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
00:24:00 <ChrisMorgan> So?
00:24:10 <Mir> thought i would share
00:24:15 <ChrisMorgan> :P
00:24:33 <ChrisMorgan> Incidentally, when measuring money like that the "USD" comes first ;-)
00:24:38 <SergentSiler> Mir, i can get it for free... legally...
00:24:52 <ChrisMorgan> SergentSiler: Enterprise?
00:24:57 * Chazz just legally got Microsoft Office 2007 Ultimate Edition for USD 0.00
00:25:12 <Mir> SergentSiler: you mean your own corp license?
00:25:19 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think DreamSpark has Enterprise
00:25:20 <SergentSiler> ChrisMorgan, i can get the same one as Chazz for the same price :p
00:25:38 <ChrisMorgan> I know. I'm eligible for DreamSpark because I help Dad with WaterSums.
00:25:38 <Mir> Enterprise Corp?
00:25:40 <Chazz> and, Mir, yes, corp licenses :P
00:25:47 <Chazz> ^_^
00:25:50 <Mir> IE unlimited licesne?
00:25:51 <ChrisMorgan> As for you lot...
00:26:01 <SergentSiler> Mir, yes
00:26:06 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, i'm elegable for bizspark
00:26:11 <SergentSiler> ^_^
00:26:12 <Mir> IE i just bought it so i can put it on as many %^*&ing computers as i please
00:26:14 <Chazz> cause i write perl sites :P
00:26:19 * SergentSiler is in bizspark AND dreamspark :3
00:26:37 * Mir is federal employee
00:26:38 <SergentSiler> Mir, we get unlimited licenses
00:26:43 <ChrisMorgan> s/DreamSpark/BizSpark/
00:26:49 * ChrisMorgan was confusing the two
00:27:00 <SergentSiler> bizspark has ultimate
00:27:11 <Chazz> SergentSiler, bizspark has EVERYTHING
00:27:14 <SergentSiler> yep
00:27:20 <SergentSiler> anything that msdn offers :3
00:27:22 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, is watersums over 3yrs old?
00:27:25 * ChrisMorgan SHOULD be eligible for DreamSpark by now... but has Microsoft added secondary schools yet?
00:27:28 <ChrisMorgan> Chazz: no
00:27:30 <ChrisMorgan> Under 1 year
00:27:33 <Chazz> ok, good :D
00:27:38 <Chazz> what does it do?
00:27:39 <ChrisMorgan> SergentSiler: not quite everything.
00:27:43 <ChrisMorgan> Water network analysis.
00:27:47 <Chazz> SergentSiler, not everything
00:27:57 <SergentSiler> ok damn near everything :P
00:28:07 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, is it web based?
00:28:07 <SergentSiler> ive only found one thing i cant get
00:28:12 <SergentSiler> xp embeded
00:28:19 <ChrisMorgan> Chazz: no
00:28:29 <ChrisMorgan> Written mainly in VB.Net
00:28:34 <Chazz> oh :/
00:28:38 <SergentSiler> <3 .net
00:28:39 <Chazz> has to be web based
00:28:41 <ChrisMorgan> http://watersums.com
00:28:47 <ChrisMorgan> Chazz: huh?
00:29:05 <Chazz> one sec, i'll find whaT IT SAys
00:29:25 <ChrisMorgan> A SaaS-type thing is eligible, but it's not necessary.
00:29:37 <ChrisMorgan> It's just one valid use case.
00:30:14 <Chazz> "To be eligible for Production License rights, Startups must also be developing a "software-plus-services " solution (on any platform) to be delivered over the Internet."
00:30:51 <ChrisMorgan> The software is delivered over the internet
00:31:04 <ChrisMorgan> Whatever it was, Dad did check with them, they were happy he qualified.
00:31:15 <Chazz> ok then, awesome :D
00:31:37 <ChrisMorgan> Still haven't created my account for it yet. No need for it yet.
00:32:13 * Mir wonders if there is a govspark
00:33:50 <Mir> nope
00:34:00 <Mir> its hup
00:34:02 <Mir> hehe
00:34:18 <Mir> damn i cant surf the web
00:34:23 <ChrisMorgan> ElectricSpark
00:34:28 <Mir> i am downloading the office enterprise
00:34:35 <ChrisMorgan> ZapSpark
00:35:51 <Mir> http://www.microsofthup.com/hupus/home.aspx?culture=en-US
00:36:00 <Mir> f*$$^ers
00:36:05 <Mir> they dont have the OS
00:36:10 <ChrisMorgan> Mir: language...
00:36:16 <Mir> the government should sue them some more
00:36:32 <Mir> ChrisMorgan: didnt i censore it
00:36:51 <ChrisMorgan> Did you need to say /anything/ on it though?
00:37:06 <ChrisMorgan> Optimal censoring is *removing* it - not saying it and obscuring it.
01:04:00 <Mir> well i be darned
01:04:07 <Mir> they cant give me free stuff
01:04:16 <Mir> its illegal
01:04:19 <Mir> :(
01:04:26 <ChrisMorgan> :|
01:04:39 <Mir> i cant be in bizspark or dreamspark because i am a federal employee
01:04:41 <Chazz> :|
01:04:48 <ChrisMorgan> :/
01:05:04 <Chazz> Mir, u still workin at that place u gave a virus?
01:05:13 <ChrisMorgan> How generous of them ;-)
01:05:17 <Mir> they also cannot sell their OS to gov employees at a discount
01:05:26 <Mir> Chazz: yes
01:05:34 <Chazz> wow...
01:05:46 <Mir> i wasnt the only one
01:05:57 <ChrisMorgan> Extra generosity!
01:06:04 <Mir> they did get in trouble for turning off my USB
01:06:12 <Mir> :)
01:06:21 <Mir> portable apps for the silent win
01:06:51 <Chazz> wewt!
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01:09:07 <ChrisMorgan> Free Download Manager crashed when I tried to download ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.(*) from 1-245 and queried size :-(
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01:09:15 <Chazz> :O
01:09:32 <ChrisMorgan> Quite so :-(
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01:11:28 <ChrisMorgan> OK, now I'll try it with "wildcard bytes 3" - leading 0s up to 3 digits
01:13:30 <ChrisMorgan> Now it's working :-)
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01:38:22 <Chazz> Res2216firestar, WOW U RESTART FAST
01:39:34 <Res2216firestar> I was just restarting my client
01:39:36 <Res2216firestar> Trying to set up a command alias, but fail:
01:39:38 <Res2216firestar> [20:51:27] >ChanServ< op %channel Res2216firestar
01:39:43 <Chazz> oh
01:43:13 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Res2216firestar: what client? Chatzilla?
01:43:45 <Res2216firestar> Yeah
01:43:53 <Res2216firestar> Figured it out
01:43:54 <Res2216firestar> opme = msg chanserv op $(recip) $(nick)
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01:52:37 <Mir> oh
01:52:48 <Mir> Ultimate is a one licesne program
01:53:22 <Mir> Enterprise is a volume
01:53:54 <Mir> technicly for people who dont have dreamsparkz they would have to pay 700$ for ultimate
01:54:05 <Mir> per computer its installed
01:54:11 <Chazz> ya :/
01:54:35 <Mir> Enterprise allows for 5 computers and up for a minimal per computer fee
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02:03:34 <ChrisMorgan> Yay! I've patched gVim 7.2 to 245 finally :D
02:03:44 <Chazz> Yay!
02:03:47 <ChrisMorgan> Now to try using a different computer to compile it...
02:04:10 <ChrisMorgan> You can actually just concatenate all the patches and patch will accept them all and run them together.
02:04:26 <Chazz> o
02:04:28 <Chazz> cool
02:04:38 <ChrisMorgan> So `copy * all` will create a file called `all` which will then work if you run it into patch
02:04:45 <Chazz> nice
02:05:47 <Mir> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/fx102464411033.aspx
02:05:54 <Chazz> .title
02:05:56 <pabot> Chazz: No title found
02:05:58 <Mir> that is a compairson of the suites
02:06:02 <Chazz> oh
02:06:03 <Chazz> ya
02:06:06 <Mir> oh dear
02:06:18 <Mir> no outlook with business manager contacts
02:06:25 * Mir sheds a tear
02:06:30 <Chazz> eh
02:07:04 <Mir> oh the only difference between Ultimate and Enterprise
02:07:24 <Mir> also Enterprise comes with Communicator while Ultimate doesnt
02:07:42 <Mir> nice
02:07:45 <Mir> onenote
02:07:54 <Mir> my key for that expired
02:07:56 <Chazz> onenote rocks
02:07:57 <Mir> ^____^
02:08:06 * Mir has a tablet PC
02:08:12 <Mir> the same as Alpha1beta
02:08:21 <Mir> i hate mine though
02:08:22 <Chazz> nicce
02:08:25 <Mir> HAET
02:08:38 <Mir> it fills me with RAGE
02:09:07 <Mir> so much HATE and RAGE
02:09:23 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... I think I'm going to remove pabot again - with no database it lacks a lot of its functionality, which GizmoBot has.
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02:09:34 <Chazz> lol
02:10:04 <ChrisMorgan> Wish we could stabilise this bot situation...
02:10:16 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> ChrisMorgan: that's only going to work until it times out and restarts ChrisMorgan
02:10:51 <ChrisMorgan> What times out? remove doesn't kill it, but does phenny have some extra functionality or something to force it to stay in a channel?
02:10:57 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> no no
02:11:05 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> ChrisMorgan: when the phenny connection on ryan's computer times out with the server
02:11:08 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> the bot will die and get restarted
02:11:11 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and will rejoin the channels
02:11:12 <ChrisMorgan> ah yeah
02:11:16 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> the only way to successfully remove it is ban it
02:11:19 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> or talk to ryan
02:11:20 <ChrisMorgan> Pesky thing...
02:11:34 <ChrisMorgan> How do you suppose I talk to him!?
02:11:38 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> lol
02:11:53 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> that I'm not sure ChrisMorgan, leave him a memoserv
02:11:56 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> send him an email maybe?
02:12:00 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> he's not been on much
02:12:05 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> so I'm not really sure what to tell you
02:12:05 <ChrisMorgan> No.
02:12:10 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> but i'd say as many m ediums as possible
02:12:29 <ChrisMorgan> I should set up a cron job to send him an email about it every hour ;-)
02:12:33 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> LOL
02:12:34 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> there you go
02:12:35 <ChrisMorgan> Easy enough to do :P
02:12:42 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> though it won't matter if he doesn't check it but once a week...
02:12:43 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, i'd say /mode +b *pabot*!*@*
02:12:56 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and he uses gmail so unless you change the subject, it'll just thread them into one line
02:13:10 <ChrisMorgan> Depends.
02:13:20 <ChrisMorgan> They'll get different message IDs.
02:13:25 <ChrisMorgan> It's a bit hit and miss then.
02:13:34 <ChrisMorgan> Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
02:14:01 <ChrisMorgan> "Reminder message #793: fix or remove pabot"... "Reminder message #794: fix or remove pabot"... ;-)
02:14:14 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> there you go :)
02:14:18 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> as long as you change the subject
02:14:24 <ChrisMorgan> :P
02:14:24 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> it's guaranteed to be a new line
02:14:56 <Chazz> lol
02:15:45 <ChrisMorgan> What would *really* be nasty (except it'd drop off after a few seconds as things started rejecting them) would be sending an email per second :O
02:16:13 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, thats a good idea :P
02:16:24 <ChrisMorgan> No. I'd get my account suspended within minutes.
02:16:31 <Chazz> oh, ya
02:16:39 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> yeah, most certainly a suspension would happen
02:16:46 <ChrisMorgan> Yep.
02:16:54 <ChrisMorgan> Whereas once an hour... unlikely.
02:17:07 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I would almost say impossible
02:17:11 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> but I'm sure it's not
02:17:34 <ChrisMorgan> "unlikely" is safer. I would be shocked if I were banned for such a thing
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02:51:51 <pa_0971> I need a answar to my question
02:52:58 <pa_0971> that is if I send my copy of OFFICE 2007 with the serial key can portable apps could make my office 2007 portable
02:53:04 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> pa_0971: nope.
02:53:09 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> that is not possible
02:53:19 <pa_0971> reason why not
02:53:50 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> not only is it illegal to do, due to licensing restrictions about the application only being able to be run on one computer....but any microsoft product, office, internet exporer, etc, is too tied into the operating system to make it portable.
02:55:21 <pa_0971> ah well that answars the one problem but how about the yahoo, msn, and skype can they be portable caz me and my friends use them alot as well
02:55:34 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> pa_0971: no, no, and no.
02:55:42 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> you can use Pidgin Portable or Miranda portable for yahoo and MSN
02:55:53 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and there is some type of plugin for skype for pidgin
02:56:00 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and I believe if you search the forums you'll find a launcher for skype.
02:56:13 <pa_0971> do they work the same and are they available in ur website
02:56:30 <Chazz> Gizmokid2005|AFK, didn't JTH make a skype launcher?
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02:56:43 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Chazz: I'm not sure who made it, I just know there is one out there
02:57:01 <Chazz> ya, i think JTH made it as a proof of concept thing
02:57:14 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> pa_0971: msn and yahoo work the same in basic concepts such as chatting and file transfers, pidgin nor miranda support all of the features that MSN and yahoo do, but the basics will work
02:57:21 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and yes they are available, just look on the applications page
02:57:39 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> For the Skype launcher, it will work the same, but you have to read the forum post to get details on how it works.
02:57:55 <pa_0971> ok so for some time I am tied with my desktop computer. cant just work with usb flash drive
02:58:07 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> correct.
03:00:02 <pa_0971> all right pretty much that was all but still portable apps rules have a great weekend all.
03:00:27 <Chazz> thnx, you too pa_0971 :0
03:00:30 <Chazz> * :)
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05:15:54 * ChrisMorgan installs Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition...
05:16:09 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, ?
05:16:17 <ChrisMorgan> So I can compile gVim.
05:16:25 <Chazz> oh, cool
05:16:26 <ChrisMorgan> s/Visual/Microsoft &/
05:16:53 <ChrisMorgan> s/Microsoft/&®/
05:17:01 <ChrisMorgan> s/C++/&®/
05:17:05 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
05:20:11 <ChrisMorgan> 6. SQL SERVER BENCHMARK TESTING. You must obtain Microsoft’s prior written approval to disclose to a third party the results of any benchmark test of the SQL Server software that accompanies this software.
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05:26:10 <Chazz> huh?
05:26:23 <ChrisMorgan> That's what it says.
05:26:33 <Chazz> oh
05:26:36 <Chazz> weird
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05:44:28 <Chazz> WOO!
05:44:51 <ChrisMorgan> WOO?
05:44:56 * Chazz high 5s ChrisMorgan
05:45:04 <Chazz> yes Chris, Woo!
05:45:11 * ChrisMorgan has installed MSVC++2008EE :D
05:45:20 <Chazz> nice! :D
05:46:42 <ChrisMorgan> Don't see /quite/ what you're getting so excited about...
05:47:37 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, i;m very happy tonight, cause i'm pretty sure that Bash Portable will be able to go PR once I talk to JTH
05:47:45 <ChrisMorgan> Good :-)\
05:47:51 <Chazz> ya :D
05:50:13 * Chazz has even got the image for the splash screen ready! :P
05:52:45 * ChrisMorgan is compiling gVim (+GUI -OLE)... if this works then he'll sort out Python, Perl, Tcl and XPM.
05:53:08 <Chazz> yay!
05:55:38 <ChrisMorgan> Perfect :D
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06:01:42 <ChrisMorgan> Hello, pa_6801! Can we help you?
06:02:11 <pa_6801> hi, the computer at my work probably has a keylogger, i just want to look at my mail from there without my bosses knowing my password does portableapps help with that? does the keyloggers work when it is running?
06:02:27 <ChrisMorgan> It won't change that.
06:02:42 <ChrisMorgan> You could save the password when at home, and then not need to enter it at work.
06:03:07 <ChrisMorgan> But if they really want to find out what it is, they're likely to be able to by packet inspection (lower-level network interception)
06:03:23 <pa_6801> save it at the firefox in portable apps?
06:03:43 <ChrisMorgan> Firefox or Thunderbird, you can save passwords.
06:04:01 <ChrisMorgan> Remember with that though that if you lose it someone else will have access to your passwords.
06:04:45 <pa_6801> do you know some other way to dissable the key logger or something?
06:05:15 <ChrisMorgan> Depends on the keylogger.
06:05:27 <ChrisMorgan> If I were you though I'd leave it alone even if I worked out a way of disabling it.
06:05:53 <ChrisMorgan> YES! My new gVim build with -OLE is not asking to register itself :D Success! Now I think I'm going to leave out Python, Perl, Ruby, Tcl and XPM, to make it smaller.
06:06:16 <ChrisMorgan> Now seeing as it compiled itself to the src directory I've got to work out how to separate it...
06:06:19 <pa_6801> would pendrive linux work? or does the keylogger stays on?
06:06:42 <ChrisMorgan> If it's a software keylogger, running any application in Windows won't confuse it.
06:06:55 <ChrisMorgan> a linux virtual machine will still be running inside Windows.
06:09:41 <pa_6801> ok, thanks then, maybe i just wont be able to view my mail at work
06:09:54 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry about that.
06:10:04 <ChrisMorgan> But we really can't do anything about it other than saving passwords.
06:10:12 <Suiseiseki> I thought there was a Firefox extention that stores passes
06:10:22 <Suiseiseki> LastPass I believe
06:10:40 <ChrisMorgan> Firefox itself can do it.
06:10:48 <Suiseiseki> yeah but it said to be secure
06:10:57 <Suiseiseki> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8542
06:11:03 <Res2216firestar> lastpass would password protect the passwords
06:11:42 <Res2216firestar> So it is better for usb devices, in case you lose them
06:12:00 <ChrisMorgan> Firefox itself can do that too.
06:12:02 <ChrisMorgan> Master Password.
06:12:48 <Suiseiseki> Lasspass can be taken to any other browser
06:12:54 <Suiseiseki> nvm
06:13:07 <ChrisMorgan> Any other browser? Sounds like it'd be less secure.
06:13:33 <Res2216firestar> If you have the lastpass for that browser
06:13:44 <Res2216firestar> It is cloud based
06:14:02 <Res2216firestar> So you log in to the server to sync your passwords
06:14:38 <ChrisMorgan> ah
06:15:42 <ChrisMorgan> pa_6801: if you have any other questions I'll ask someone else to answer them... I'm off for about three-quarters of an hour.
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06:15:51 <Res2216firestar> https://lastpass.com/safety.php explains it better than I can
06:16:16 <Suiseiseki> Res2216firestar: You can import FF passwords to the lastpass right?
06:16:22 <Res2216firestar> Yes
06:16:31 <Suiseiseki> I have the extendsion install. btu never used it
06:16:35 <Suiseiseki> *installed
06:16:54 <Res2216firestar> It automatically imports them when you configure the addon, iirc
06:19:21 <pa_6801> I will look into them, thanks all
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08:09:44 <Kaze> Can some1 help me?
08:10:38 <Kaze> GizmoBot: Can you help me?
08:11:12 <Kaze> hello?
08:18:19 <Kaze> Just fck it. Its no help to get here.
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10:00:41 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... should I recompile gVim *again* after modifying the makefile so that :version will display "Compiled by Chris Morgan@PortableApps.com" instead of "Compiled by user@DUONEX"?
10:03:13 <ChrisMorgan> I s'pose I really should, to include IME and CSCOPE as well...
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11:01:58 <pa_6275> Hi!
11:02:07 <ChrisMorgan> Hello, pa_6275! Can we help you?
11:03:11 <pa_6275> I think there is a bug in the latest Thunderbird portable (2.0.0.23) - German language version
11:03:46 <ChrisMorgan> What's the issue with it?
11:04:05 <pa_6275> The enigmail and lightning extensions are in English language since I updated TB-port from 2.0.0.22
11:04:27 <pa_6275> when I went back to 2.0.0.22 they are in german again.
11:06:13 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm. I think that's more likely to be a Thunderbird issue than a Thunderbird Portable issue.
11:31:28 <pa_6275> ok, thanks! I'll stick to 2.0.0.22 for now.
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13:19:41 <solanus> Hey, guys
13:21:24 <solanus> I just tried to put up a post to describe ways to use existing PA dev solutions to enhance the PAP, but I got the auto-spam flag blocking my post. WTF?
13:22:22 <solanus> It's definitely not a spam post; it does have a lot of links in it, but all except one of them link back to posts on this site.
13:22:42 <solanus> Should I try again?
13:26:54 <solanus> Bueller?
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13:39:42 <Bensawsome> solanus: if a post contains too many links it will be marked as spam :/
13:42:13 <solanus> Ah. I've re-posted, and went through the exercise of reporting a spam filter error.
13:43:18 <solanus> I was trying to collect in a single post all the things I use to make the current PAP make like the future PAP.
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13:43:56 <solanus> Such as PortableFonts, PortableFileAssociator, PortableAppsUpdater, etc.
13:47:11 <solanus> Whatever. If it doesn't clear, I'll repost without the links and make people look the stuff up themselves.
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13:48:14 <solanus> Dater ludes
13:48:39 <solanus> oh, BTW, thanks benawsome
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16:49:30 <Mir> 攻殻機動隊
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17:10:07 <Gizmokid2005> really Mir?
17:10:09 <Gizmokid2005> char testing?
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17:45:08 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
17:45:08 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
17:45:30 <TimClark> Hello All
17:45:30 <GizmoBot> TimClark: On Aug 21, 2009 @ 22:05 GMT <Gizmokid2005> tell TimClark I'm REALLY beginning to believe that jammcomm should just be fucking shot....http://portableapps.com/node/20489#comment-126140
17:46:02 <TimClark> I have 2 questions if anyone is awake
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17:48:14 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 Songbird Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19953 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
17:48:20 <Mir> hey TimClark
17:48:22 <ZachThibeau> sure TimClark
17:48:34 <Mir> sup
17:48:35 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark
17:48:41 <Suiseiseki> it's the GIMP thing again
17:48:49 <Mir> GAP?
17:48:50 <TimClark> first, i just saw a .etll from Gizmokid2005 , did anyone else see it ?
17:49:10 <Mir> yup
17:49:36 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: that should be changed so that the tells ar not seen in public :/
17:49:59 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: that's MaienM's bag...he could probably do it faster and more reliably than I can.
17:51:19 <TimClark> second question, is anyone else having trouble posting in the fourms
17:51:41 <TimClark> My last post was hit by the spam filter and is awaiting review
17:51:57 <Mir> :O
17:52:03 <Mir> thats news to me
17:52:18 <Mir> havent been to the forum since yesterday around 3PM PST
17:52:35 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: yes, who was it that was just here with that issue...sancas?? I don't remember exactly
17:52:44 <Gizmokid2005> but I've noticed quite a few people having issues with the spam filter catching them.
17:53:11 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: have they been reporting it here, is that how you have noted it
17:53:20 <TimClark> I have not read the recent logs
17:53:36 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: yep
17:54:04 <TimClark> As any indication been given as to how long it takes for the posts to be released
17:54:45 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: nope.
17:54:51 <Gizmokid2005> most people will edit their post until it works
17:54:54 <Gizmokid2005> the ones I've heard from at least
17:54:58 <Gizmokid2005> usually by just taking out some linkds
17:55:00 <Gizmokid2005> *links
17:55:06 <Gizmokid2005> that seems to trigger the filter.
17:57:18 <Mir> good
17:57:33 <Mir> because there are so many spammers posing useless links
17:57:37 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: i don't think I had a link ???
17:57:55 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: hmnmm, that's odd
17:58:00 <Gizmokid2005> out of the normal reports that I see about it
17:58:50 <TimClark> Just did a back, back, back, back to the form, no links :/
17:59:11 <Gizmokid2005> :(
17:59:19 <Gizmokid2005> ping john about it
18:00:00 <Gizmokid2005> I shall return in another moment. I have some fixing to do with KVirc.
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18:04:07 <xgpt> hello everyone
18:04:19 <xgpt> help!
18:04:27 <xgpt> I would like to learn a programming language
18:04:30 <TimClark> hello xgpt , what's up
18:04:46 <xgpt> but I cannot install any software on my machine, I'm running on a portable USB stick right now and borrowed windows XP machines
18:04:54 <xgpt> I think python has the most resources
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18:05:11 <xgpt> is there a portable version of python?>
18:05:12 <xgpt> ?
18:05:14 <GizmoBot> ...
18:05:21 <TimClark> xgpt: slow down please
18:05:36 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: can you see xgpt request ?
18:05:45 <Gizmokid2005> no, let me check the logs
18:06:01 <TimClark> [13:18] <xgpt> I would like to learn a programming language
18:06:03 <TimClark> [13:18] <xgpt> but I cannot install any software on my machine, I'm running on a portable USB stick right now and borrowed windows XP machines
18:06:11 <Gizmokid2005> xgpt: hang on a moment please
18:06:21 <xgpt> Gizmokid2005: thanks
18:06:39 <Gizmokid2005> xgpt: there is nothing official, but you can searcha nd check these: http://portableapps.com/search/node/python+portable
18:06:48 <Gizmokid2005> they might have issues with something, but they should work.
18:06:51 <Gizmokid2005> nothing is official though.
18:06:59 <Gizmokid2005> the only language we have "official" is NSIS.
18:07:15 <Gizmokid2005> there is an NSIS portable, but we don't have any actua languages portable
18:07:51 <sar3th> xgpt: python is a interpreted language, you will always need an interpreter to run your scripts
18:08:11 <sar3th> xgpt: nsis however does not require any interpreter, since it creates binaries
18:08:45 <Gizmokid2005> xgpt: what sar3th said as well :)
18:09:59 <xgpt> I understand I need an interpreter
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18:13:28 <TimClark> xgpt: is there more you need ?
18:13:36 <xgpt> *sigh* not really
18:13:47 <TimClark> ok, good luck
18:13:48 <xgpt> it's just that I feel like a little guppy jumping into an ocean of technical confusion
18:13:52 <xgpt> YAY
18:14:09 <sar3th> xgpt: yeah, i know that feeling
18:14:38 <sar3th> a good way is to read some python tutorials, and look whether we have a portable python using Gizmokid2005's link
18:15:03 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: et al, this was the post that got flagged, i can't see why
18:15:04 <xgpt> I think there is a more mature versio
18:15:05 <TimClark> http://test345.pastebin.com/m55046f5 this was in repley to http://portableapps.com/node/19143#comment-126164
18:15:07 <xgpt> *version
18:15:12 <xgpt> it's not portableapps.com compatible
18:15:21 <xgpt> but it's a portable version of python
18:15:44 <sar3th> xgpt: that's possible, you can of course use it at your own risk ;)
18:16:11 <Gizmokid2005> not sure TimClark
18:16:54 <TimClark> I hope the spam filter is not going to be too strick, it will annoy folks if they have to wait for their replies to be posted
18:17:16 <sar3th> nice reply TimClark by the way
18:17:22 <TimClark> You know how folks "want to be the first to reply" in our forums
18:17:25 <TimClark> ty sar3th
18:17:35 <TimClark> I "try" to make good replies
18:18:55 <TimClark> If john is manually reviewing the posts, which i guess he is , this could be a problem on weekends or while he is away :/
18:19:19 <Gizmokid2005> yup
18:19:46 <Gizmokid2005> hopefully he either gets it straightened out, or allows other mods/admins to approve the spam "queue"
18:20:56 <xgpt> well
18:21:02 <xgpt> I wrote my first hello world! program in python
18:21:03 <xgpt> yay
18:21:19 <Gizmokid2005> good start xgpt
18:21:21 <sar3th> nice xgpt
18:21:34 <sar3th> python is a very powerful language, which is very flexible
18:21:48 <xgpt> it's what everyone seems to be saying
18:21:51 <sar3th> you can do lots of things you can't do in other languages
18:21:59 <xgpt> but it's simple
18:22:00 <xgpt> right?
18:22:03 <sar3th> yeah
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18:46:19 <pa_3268> Hi
18:47:03 <TimClark> hello pa_3268
18:47:56 <TimClark> It is fairly quiet in here right now, but if you have a question please as it pa_3268
18:48:06 <TimClark> ask it*
18:48:24 <pa_3268> I have found out that Portable_App_Creator_0_97_2_beta does not Seem to work on windows 7 pofessional it gets a script error
18:49:20 <TimClark> being that it is beta, and we are talking Win 7 , I am not surpised :/
18:49:33 <sar3th> pa_3268: which windows 7 professional are you refering to? Beta 1? RC1? RTM?
18:49:48 <TimClark> Have you posted a comment in the forums pa_3268 ?
18:49:53 <pa_3268> Full
18:49:59 <pa_3268> no
18:50:14 <TimClark> pa_3268: that might be best
18:51:03 <sar3th> pa_3268: do you use x86 or x64 windows 7?
18:52:29 <pa_3268> I just wanted you to know that it does not work on Win 7 and I did get it to work on my other os Win xp
18:52:40 <pa_3268> so thanks
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18:52:44 <pa_3268> Byw
18:52:47 <pa_3268> bye
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19:04:24 <sar3th> not ben D:
19:06:17 <TimClark> Ok guys, i'm trying to do 3 things at once and can't rely on webcrap to let me know when folks have spoken, so i will go now as i am too busy to keep checking
19:06:55 <TimClark> Hopefully the spam filter thing will not be too much of a problem, if it is we may need to let john know
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19:08:10 <sar3th> okay TimClark, i'll be around for any pas ;)
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20:22:28 <pa_8345> hi guys
20:22:36 <pa_8345> anybody here?
20:22:50 <pa_8345> exit
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20:23:08 <Gizmokid2005> or you can not even wait 30 seconds for a response...
20:23:14 <SergentSiler> lol
20:23:26 <Chazz> lol
20:23:29 <Chazz> fail
20:23:58 <Chazz> this shows us the amount of people who /read/ the topic :/
20:24:02 <SergentSiler> lol
20:25:42 <Chazz> help!
20:25:47 <Chazz> ...
20:25:54 <Chazz> that sure did alot :P
20:25:55 <SergentSiler> lol
20:26:02 <SergentSiler> Chazz, i think it was disabled
20:26:03 <Chazz> btw, SergentSiler, pabot isn
20:26:06 <Chazz> t in here
20:26:16 <SergentSiler> i lold
20:26:25 <SergentSiler> yeah wtf o_O
20:26:42 <Chazz> CM likes to kick him out to use GizmoBot's working .def button :P
20:26:52 <SergentSiler> lol
20:27:10 <Chazz> well, it's a remove, but u get the point :P
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20:37:20 <sar3th> ohai Bensawsome
20:43:35 <Bensawsome> ohaiiii sar3th
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