IRC Log from 2009-08-31
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00:17:52 <Chazz> gluxon?
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00:23:54 <gluxon> hey.
00:24:04 <Chazz> fail?
00:25:23 <gluxon> SERGNETSILER!!!!
00:25:30 <gluxon> O.M.G.!!!
00:25:37 <gluxon> What am I banned for this time!!!!
00:25:52 <gluxon> SrgSiler|sAFK
00:26:14 <SrgSiler|sAFK> the message sez it :/
00:26:22 <gluxon> What message?
00:26:50 <Chazz> lol
00:26:50 <SrgSiler|sAFK> dude, its because u failed to identify over 20 times in 2 days
00:26:53 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
00:27:07 <gluxon> ...
00:27:10 <gluxon> ...
00:27:10 <gluxon> ...
00:27:11 <gluxon> ...
00:27:19 <Chazz> -ot tiem
00:27:20 <gluxon> ASDFFGKLJSLG!!@ERSDAFIDOHT!@#$PI$ut-f0(FISJD:LKFJadrt
00:27:24 <gluxon> 654654+
00:27:24 <gluxon> 9543
00:27:25 <gluxon> 54+
00:27:26 <gluxon> 651.35436543
00:27:28 <Chazz> -ot tiem
00:27:33 <SrgSiler|sAFK> gluxon ill ask you to not spam AND to kill your clone plz
00:27:39 <gluxon> what clone?
00:27:44 <SrgSiler|sAFK> gluxon|gone, :/
00:27:49 <gluxon> ...
00:27:52 <gluxon> how'd that happen?
00:27:57 <Chazz> u failed?
00:28:01 <gluxon> shut up....
00:28:02 <SrgSiler|sAFK> kill it with fire or gtfo :P
00:28:16 <gluxon> And besides... failing 20 times in 2 days is not a reason to be banned!
00:28:21 <SrgSiler|sAFK> oh and fyi gluxon safk is semi afk
00:28:29 <SrgSiler|sAFK> and yes it is, its a huge security issue
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00:28:33 <gluxon> ...
00:28:38 <gluxon> It's a PIDGIN ISSUE!!!!
00:28:47 <SrgSiler|sAFK> no its you
00:29:05 <SrgSiler|sAFK> pidgin can auto identify, if you failed to set it up properly then you failed
00:29:15 <SrgSiler|sAFK> and on top of that u can always manually identify and you havent
00:29:41 <Bensawsome> >_>
00:29:43 <Bensawsome> lol
00:29:45 <gluxon> ...
00:29:59 <gluxon> It fails when I've got two servers connecting at the same tim!
00:30:02 <gluxon> And look.
00:30:05 <gluxon> I'll show you what whappens.
00:30:12 <gluxon> connect to me on TeamViewer.
00:30:16 <SrgSiler|sAFK> no
00:30:19 <SrgSiler|sAFK> end of discussion
00:30:22 <gluxon> And I won't shut off your COMP!!!
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00:30:33 <SrgSiler|sAFK> hello TimClark
00:30:42 <gluxon> We did something bad didn't we :(
00:30:47 <TimClark> what is going on with gluxon
00:31:03 <gluxon> I"m pissed cause SergentSiler banned me for failing...
00:31:10 <gluxon> That's not a reason to ban somebody :(
00:31:17 <TimClark> gluxon: take it else where
00:31:23 <TimClark> it has nothing to do with us
00:31:27 <TimClark> period
00:31:27 <SrgSiler|sAFK> when it is a security issue it is, and again, end of discussion gluxon
00:31:46 <TimClark> -ot, pm, anyplace else
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00:59:59 <Gizmokid2005> you know....both you gluxon and you SrgSiler|sAFK, REALLY need to watch where you two get into it. Here is certainly not the place, especially with it being logged.
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01:00:21 <Gizmokid2005> I have half a mind to mute both of you for a while. But I won't. This WILL be your last warning. Cut the crap in here. Period.
01:00:52 <SrgSiler|sAFK> noted, and please note that i tried multiple times to stop it :/
01:01:00 <SrgSiler|sAFK> wont happen again
01:01:32 <Gizmokid2005> SrgSiler|sAFK: yes, you did. But when it comes to it, treat it as spam. Ignore it. Replying just fuels the fire.
01:01:52 <SrgSiler|sAFK> noted
01:02:02 <gluxon> .. our last warning is apparently... also a first...
01:02:29 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: you are both regulars and both know better. I shouldn't even have to warn either of you.
01:02:41 <Chazz> gluxon, you have been warned about off-topicness before anyways
01:02:51 <Gizmokid2005> Chazz: please, stay out, or you're next.
01:02:57 <Chazz> ok, sorry
01:03:06 <gluxon> so have you Chazz...
01:03:11 * Chazz goes back to lurking
01:03:29 <Gizmokid2005> I don't like to have to come in to a mess or something like this...but when you guys pull that crap, you leave me no choice.
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07:45:12 <farmer.freenode.net> Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | SF CCA Wins: http://portableapps.com/node/20079
07:45:12 <farmer.freenode.net> Users on #portableapps: palogbot @ChrisMorgan RetLaw excid3 Suiseiseki daBomb|Not-Here StatBot +pabot @Gizmokid2005|AFK Bensawsome Zarggg Whibo dbdii407 TheWarden___ Twinkletoes|W +ZachT|AFK SrgSiler|Sleep tarbo_ Mir
07:45:14 <ChrisMorgan> *zing* ;-) Dunno if anything useful was missed.
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08:24:17 <Horusofoz> Hi all :)
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14:12:07 <farmer.freenode.net> Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | SF CCA Wins: http://portableapps.com/node/20079
14:12:07 <farmer.freenode.net> Users on #portableapps: palogbot abc528 BjornH +MaienM RetLaw excid3 Suiseiseki daBomb|Not-Here StatBot +pabot @Gizmokid2005|AFK Bensawsome Zarggg Whibo dbdii407 TheWarden___ Twinkletoes|W +ZachT|AFK SrgSiler|Sleep tarbo_ Mir
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14:46:59 <ZachThibeau> howdy all
14:47:27 <MaienM> hello ZachThibeau :)
14:48:56 <Gizmokid2005> hello MaienM, ZachThibeau
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14:51:30 <JohnTHaller> hola
14:51:53 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
14:51:55 <Gizmokid2005> brb
14:52:53 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
14:53:29 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
14:54:44 <ZachThibeau> just got off of my first shift of work
14:54:56 <ZachThibeau> I leave for my second shift in about 5 hours
14:57:33 <JohnTHaller> fun fun
14:57:38 <Gizmokid2005> mmk, back
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14:58:07 <KookyMan> Good Morning All :)
14:58:14 <Gizmokid2005> hey KookyMan, it's been a while :)
14:58:34 <KookyMan> Yes it has
14:58:45 <KookyMan> been dealing with a data corruption issue or I'd have been here two weeks ago
14:59:39 <KookyMan> I just wanted to throw out, no tthat John likes deadlines or set dates by any means, if possible though a push to get out of beta by this comming weekend might be a good thing. Schools everywhere are going to be starting, and I'm sure a lot of students use PA.
14:59:41 <Gizmokid2005> ouch :(
15:01:04 <KookyMan> I'm eager for it, I'll admit
15:01:30 <JohnTHaller> It's being worked on
15:01:38 <KookyMan> Havn't touched my key all summer and now I'm getting ready to update.. was hoping that PA would have been done so I could just let the new updater take care of the out of date stuff :)
15:01:48 <KookyMan> Your Great John, please don't take it as complaints at all...
15:01:52 <JohnTHaller> Currently, I can't even release any apps. SF issue.
15:02:38 <KookyMan> Oh.. darn.... *Kicks Sourceforge*
15:02:53 <JohnTHaller> New PNotes and Miranda are awaiting release but won't propogate to mirrors
15:03:06 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: at least the site is up...mine's been down for over 36 hours now :(
15:03:29 <KookyMan> John, dumb question, possibly. If two portable drives are put in, both running PA, and you sillilly start PA on both and each has a different wallpaper, which one trumps? First? or will they stack?
15:04:25 <MaienM> Gizmokid2005: your host having issues AGAIN? :(
15:05:15 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: yep, it's been down since sometime Saturday...no email, their site is down, I found one of the guys on twitter, who seems to be the manager/owner, and I had daBomb|Not-Here @ him on twitter...nothing.
15:05:32 <KookyMan> Gizmokid2005 - This was your uber-cheap host?
15:05:42 <Gizmokid2005> and Bensawsome offered to host for me...but that won't work I don't have a recent backup
15:05:46 <Gizmokid2005> KookyMan: nope, manobanweb.com
15:05:56 <JohnTHaller> NEVER use a cheap host
15:05:56 <Gizmokid2005> it's $7.95/mo, but I paid a year i9n advance...
15:05:57 <KookyMan> yea, the really really cheap one
15:05:59 <Gizmokid2005> *in
15:06:01 <Gizmokid2005> not really
15:06:05 <MaienM> still them? -_-
15:06:08 <Gizmokid2005> godaddy was cheaper
15:06:09 <KookyMan> it ain't expensive by any means though
15:06:19 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: yeah...I need $30 to move to the host I want, and I don't have it
15:06:24 <MaienM> I thought you'd have switched by now, considering all problems in the past.....
15:06:25 <Gizmokid2005> http://olm.net
15:06:38 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: I know, I want to, but it's hard with no money :(
15:06:46 <MaienM> :(
15:06:50 <MaienM> I feel your pain
15:07:23 <MaienM> ..... and at the same time I'm kinda derailing this channel
15:07:30 <Gizmokid2005> not really :)
15:07:34 <Gizmokid2005> I did
15:08:13 <KookyMan> Gizmokid2005 - I've not been around really since you moved, so whats been going on with it? They not living up to expectations?
15:08:19 <Gizmokid2005> hahah
15:08:27 <Gizmokid2005> KookyMan: I'd love to show you, but my site is down...*eye roll*
15:08:59 <Gizmokid2005> basically their servers got hacked, i told them about it, they dragged their feet, my site was used to phish...paypal reported it to the FBI, I had to deal with the IRS....it wasn't pretty.
15:08:59 <JohnTHaller> And now VirtualDub is waiting in the SF queue, too
15:09:01 <KookyMan> Noones really asking about anything ot so we're not really derailing... Just having a pleasant conversation :)
15:09:20 <Gizmokid2005> and now, it's just down...with no info at all
15:09:28 <KookyMan> how old is your last backup?
15:09:47 <Gizmokid2005> it's been a while
15:09:49 <Gizmokid2005> lemme look
15:10:06 <Gizmokid2005> 6/15
15:10:07 <Gizmokid2005> :(
15:10:11 <Gizmokid2005> so over 2.5 months
15:10:27 <Gizmokid2005> they'll come back online, and say it was just an issue with something that they are working on.
15:10:34 <Gizmokid2005> they always do, but the downtime is irritating
15:12:59 <KookyMan> well, in the past the main site hasn't gone down, has it?
15:13:26 * KookyMan grabs his padded bat and bops Gizmokid2005 over the head... And what has everyone always told you.. Back Up Frequently!
15:13:35 <Gizmokid2005> yes, it has
15:13:38 <Gizmokid2005> just about every time
15:13:47 <Gizmokid2005> I think my site and theirs are on the same server
15:14:13 <Gizmokid2005> that's one thing I liked about them, the site was always snappy, I always had a 10M pipe from them...nothing ever was slow or unresponsive...
15:14:28 <Gizmokid2005> and I know, it's just been sheer unattentiveness to my backup that caused this lapse..
15:17:06 <KookyMan> Its Ok giz.. try this one on for size
15:18:01 <KookyMan> built two new rigs, identical cept for RAM Amount, HDs and OS.. (Same Mobo, Same Proc, Same RAM Type, one is 4G(2x2) other is 8G(2x4)..
15:18:43 <KookyMan> Put twin 1.5Ts in one, downloaded my entire external drive (1T) to one of the 1.5Ts, and had files that were bad here and there by 5-10 bytes
15:20:55 <Gizmokid2005> ouch
15:23:10 <KookyMan> yea
15:23:16 <KookyMan> Luckilly I copied, not moved
15:23:30 <KookyMan> SO deleted all the matching files to find out how bad the corruption was
15:23:35 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, I learned my lesson with that, thankfully it was jsut something small that didn't matter.
15:23:39 <Gizmokid2005> and?
15:23:51 <KookyMan> and probably 10-20,000 files out of 250-300,000 were doa
15:23:58 <Gizmokid2005> wow
15:24:09 <KookyMan> I'm thinking I have a hinky cable
15:24:30 <Gizmokid2005> maybe it's just a bad drive too, did you try the other one?
15:24:36 <KookyMan> after wipign the drives, doing block checking and file system checks on it, I discovered that it doesn't appear to be the drive
15:24:39 <Gizmokid2005> i've had some new drives bad.
15:24:43 <Gizmokid2005> hmmm
15:25:11 <KookyMan> Well, the twins are named Primary and Backup. They are rsync'ed clones... I rsynced from the external this time, no corruption
15:25:38 <Gizmokid2005> weird
15:26:09 <KookyMan> So the data was corrupt on both copies of the drives.
15:26:12 <Gizmokid2005> .o down manobanweb.com
15:26:15 <KookyMan> I've rechecked about three times.
15:26:24 <pabot> It's down.
15:26:29 <Gizmokid2005> KookyMan: wow...
15:26:39 <Gizmokid2005> at least you didn't lose anything
15:26:55 <Gizmokid2005> I got caught with that on my old flashdrive...I wasn't making nightly backups, and one night it just bit the dust.
15:27:09 <Gizmokid2005> I was barely able to get anything off it from my laptop with ubuntu...windows wouldn't even see it
15:27:13 <Gizmokid2005> and half the time ubuntu would lose it.
15:28:36 <KookyMan> My 2GB key I used to use for school I ketp backups at home and school (Since we got 2GB on the school server it was convienient)
15:29:14 <KookyMan> This year though... I'm switching to a 320GB External drive (Segate FreeAgent|Go)
15:29:45 <KookyMan> Backups will be a little more difficult, but its practically required considering what I'll be doing. Database work and programming.....
15:30:03 <KookyMan> I don't want to be doing that off a Memory Stic
15:30:21 <KookyMan> And Visual Studio won't play nice with programs saved to a network drive
15:31:07 <Gizmokid2005> ahh yeah
15:31:45 <Gizmokid2005> I've got my 160GB 2.5" ext hdd, WD Passport? I had to send my old one in and get it replaced...but I've got a 4GB TC partition setup for my portableapps.
15:31:56 <Gizmokid2005> I've got it formatted FAT32 so I can access it on my mac if need be
15:32:51 <KookyMan> I'm still leery of TC
15:32:59 <KookyMan> but Its looking like I'll have to keep using it
15:33:14 <Gizmokid2005> why?
15:33:37 <KookyMan> Their attitude towards their community/followers went down hill seriously mid-08
15:33:56 <Gizmokid2005> ahh yes
15:33:58 <Gizmokid2005> I remember that
15:34:08 <Gizmokid2005> I think I'm running V5?
15:34:13 <Gizmokid2005> and that's probably as far as it'll go.
15:34:14 <KookyMan> same here
15:34:18 <KookyMan> 5.1
15:34:21 <Gizmokid2005> I don't have any bugs in mine
15:34:27 <KookyMan> I'd love some of the features in 6
15:34:29 <Gizmokid2005> and I only upgraded from 4 for a possible speed increase
15:34:34 <KookyMan> ie: inherent header backups
15:34:44 <Gizmokid2005> ahh
15:35:03 <Gizmokid2005> well, I'm not worried about people actually getting into my files, I just have this partition as a TC in case I lose my HDD somewhere...
15:35:10 <Gizmokid2005> they'll have to break through that encryption first.
15:35:28 <KookyMan> Starting with v6, there are copies of the headers at the beginning and ending of the files. Both the outer and if present inner containers, both encrypted against different salts though
15:37:34 <KookyMan> and they got better with multi-threads too Iirc
15:41:09 <KookyMan> What would make TC much better is if they would just make a frigging "Explorer" app
15:41:20 <Gizmokid2005> haha, yeah. I agree there
15:41:29 <Gizmokid2005> I've thought about making the jump to FreeOTFE
15:41:36 <Gizmokid2005> I know a guy at work who uses it and loves it
15:42:55 <KookyMan> well, I have my file server running F11, so FreeOTFE don't work
15:43:20 <Gizmokid2005> ahh yeah. Well, I don't use it for anything other than my portableapps stuff
15:43:26 <Gizmokid2005> so I don't have much to worry about
15:43:31 <Gizmokid2005> but then again, if it's not broke, don't fix it
15:43:32 <Gizmokid2005> lol
15:46:42 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 u called me?
15:46:49 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: no...
15:46:57 <Bensawsome> >_> ok...
15:47:02 <Gizmokid2005> lol
15:47:10 <Gizmokid2005> I mentioned you maybe
15:47:16 <Gizmokid2005> but I didn't need anything
15:47:19 <Gizmokid2005> just mbw is still down :(
15:47:19 <KookyMan> HI Bensawsome
15:47:26 <Bensawsome> ohai KookyMan ^_^
15:48:33 <KookyMan> How are you Ben?
15:48:58 <Bensawsome> im good you?
15:49:15 <JohnTHaller> Ok, now thew new GnuCash is in the SF queue, too. Hope they get file releases working soon.
15:49:31 <Gizmokid2005> awesome JohnTHaller :)
15:49:39 <Gizmokid2005> I'm still waiting on SBP for 1.3
15:52:15 <KookyMan> John - your gonna make people think you've gone work silly if these all pop online at the same time :)
15:53:46 <JohnTHaller> Well, I did do em all this morning
16:03:24 <Gizmokid2005> so, how've you been JohnTHaller?
16:06:29 <JohnTHaller> 0120 (according to my cat)
16:06:47 <Gizmokid2005> well I suppose that's better than 0119
16:06:48 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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16:40:33 <Gizmokid2005> hello andreasma
16:40:47 <andreasma> hi Gizmokid2005
16:53:45 <KookyMan> You know, if I didn't know 2.0 was comming, soon, with the updater built in, I'd make a suggestion to actually put a download link right in the news announcement for updates. I've always had a grumble with having to click so many times to just download an app.. Click the news, then click the app page, then click the download link.
17:07:31 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: It's coming. Did you see the preview screenshots yet?
17:07:59 <KookyMan> I don't think so
17:08:04 <KookyMan> I saw the b1 thread
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18:08:02 <JohnTHaller> back... lemme show ya
18:09:16 <JohnTHaller> Here's the updater: http://portableapps.com/temp/PortableApps.comUpdaterPreview2.png
18:09:26 <JohnTHaller> It can also be used to add new apps: http://portableapps.com/temp/PortableApps.comUpdaterAddPreview3.png
18:10:30 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: PM?
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18:38:49 <MaienM> that looks pretty good JohnTHaller :)
18:49:24 <KookyMan> Why not add a column for version #
18:49:59 <KookyMan> on both
18:50:15 <Gizmokid2005> KookyMan: the version number is in the App name in the updater
18:50:26 <Gizmokid2005> KookyMan: and on new apps, why would it matter?
18:50:30 <Gizmokid2005> you get to see one app...so
18:50:35 <KookyMan> Firefox 3.0 vs Firefox 3.5
18:50:54 <Gizmokid2005> that's probably one place he'd make an exception, and probably in the app name again
18:51:13 <KookyMan> I'm a fan of splitting data into respective places, not clumping it
18:51:29 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, JohnTHaller had some reason for it though, space maybe?
18:51:31 <Gizmokid2005> i don't recall offhand
18:52:33 <KookyMan> On the updater what about a Installed Ver / New Ver.
18:53:02 <KookyMan> And I'm just tossing out ideas
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18:53:34 <Gizmokid2005> true
18:53:35 <Gizmokid2005> back in a few
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18:56:22 <JohnTHaller> When adding a new app, the version honestly doesn't matter.
18:56:46 <JohnTHaller> And the local version isn't that important.
18:56:56 <JohnTHaller> It's about available space. And not overloading the info.
19:19:01 <Gizmokid2005> back
19:33:40 <KookyMan> re
19:37:06 <KookyMan> ooh heres something deliciously grusome.... a woman was fired for sending an email in all caps in NZ.
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19:37:32 <Gizmokid2005> KookyMan: hahaha, if only it was always that easy
19:37:38 <Gizmokid2005> hello Christopher_, how can we help you?
19:37:42 <Christopher_> how can you get the Startportableapps to start as soon as you put in the flash drive?
19:38:51 <Christopher_> ?
19:39:16 <Gizmokid2005> Christopher_: you can't.
19:39:29 <Christopher_> dang
19:39:38 <Christopher_> alright then thanks
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20:07:45 <markomlm> ping JohnTHaller
20:07:59 <markomlm> hello @all
20:09:22 <MaienM> hello markomlm
20:09:38 <markomlm> Hello MaienM
20:10:41 <MaienM> whats up?
20:11:19 <kai_62656> hi markomlm
20:11:48 <markomlm> kai_62656 hi
20:12:25 <markomlm> MaienM: Get prepared for OpenOffice.org Portable 3.1 ;-)
20:12:51 <MaienM> :D
20:13:45 <kai_62656> :-D
20:14:04 <Gizmokid2005> FINALLY!!! http://twitter.com/search?q=%23ManobanWeb
20:14:09 <Gizmokid2005> hello markomlm!
20:14:56 <markomlm> Hi Gizmokid2005
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20:21:05 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello all. just relaxing from first day of school.
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20:42:53 <KookyMan> you know, I don't know how MW stays in business with this kind of downtime
20:44:28 <Gizmokid2005> MBW? Yeah, I know.
20:44:35 <Gizmokid2005> I think it's just this "kid" running it
20:44:41 <Gizmokid2005> with some friends...at least that's what it seems like...
20:45:12 <Gizmokid2005> and it seems to always be hardware failures...which makes me wonder...
20:45:31 <KookyMan> seems like they havn't come up with a fix for redundancy
20:45:46 <Gizmokid2005> that's for sure.
20:45:52 <Gizmokid2005> which is why I'm trying to switch hosts...
20:45:56 <Gizmokid2005> but I need money to do that :(
20:46:33 <Gizmokid2005> I should get my 3 month check from my other job next month, and hopefully I'll have enough money out of that after I get signed up for my MFR and prereq's to get new hosting.
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20:47:04 <KookyMan> mfr
20:47:05 <KookyMan> ??
20:47:50 <Gizmokid2005> Medical First Responder
20:48:12 <KookyMan> ok
20:49:41 <KookyMan> My thing is, what kind of hardware failure would take a site offline like this, and result in no data loss?
20:49:51 <Gizmokid2005> mobo?
20:49:52 <Gizmokid2005> ram?
20:49:54 <Gizmokid2005> CPU?
20:49:55 <Gizmokid2005> PSU?
20:49:59 <Gizmokid2005> ol
20:50:02 <Gizmokid2005> *lol
20:50:03 <KookyMan> if a box died, you pull the drives, drop them into another machine and get it back online with a little reconfig
20:50:04 <Gizmokid2005> shall I keep going?
20:50:16 <KookyMan> Unless the entire business is run from one box
20:50:33 <Gizmokid2005> I think they only have 2 or 3 boxes, but I can't say for sure
20:50:47 <Gizmokid2005> there aren't many sites on the box though, which is what I like...not the 600 that GoDaddy has...
20:51:12 <markomlm> bye
20:51:16 <markomlm> :-)
20:51:25 <Gizmokid2005> see ya markomlm
20:51:32 <markomlm> :-)
20:51:38 <KookyMan> they'd need to have a number, or it wouldn't be profitable
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20:51:57 <Gizmokid2005> KookyMan: meh, more/less
20:52:04 <Gizmokid2005> not unless they know someone and/or get a deal on what they are using...
20:52:25 <KookyMan> that colo sounding any more appealing? :)
20:52:26 <Gizmokid2005> they only use paypal
20:52:29 <Gizmokid2005> nope
20:52:31 <Gizmokid2005> not in the least
20:52:37 <Gizmokid2005> because I can't afford that
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21:43:28 <miff> where do you download the beta?
21:44:06 <Gizmokid2005> miff: in the forums
21:44:10 <Gizmokid2005> search for it
21:44:17 <miff> ok thanks
21:44:24 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome
21:44:28 <Gizmokid2005> hang on and I'll give you a link
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21:44:35 <Gizmokid2005> or not
21:44:42 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/node/20013
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21:47:08 <KookyMan> Was B3 a single fix beta or? I see theres an update of whats fixed in B2, but not in B3, cept for the updater missing
21:48:03 <JohnTHaller> "4th App Icon - Beta 3 fixes a bug with the 4 item in the app list not working"
21:49:00 <KookyMan> Oh, I see it, it just blended so well with the other stuff :)
21:49:21 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, it was just a quick fix for that one issue.
21:50:11 <KookyMan> Since B3 is over a month old I'll assume theres no major bugs in it... I'm doing a fresh install of PA to my new drive for school..
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21:52:38 <JohnTHaller> I can't recall if the refresh after app install sort issue is still there or not. Other than that, there are a couple lang switching bugs because the translations aren';t quite done
21:52:45 <JohnTHaller> but if you're using it in English, no
21:53:25 <KookyMan> English it is
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22:08:39 <Miff> ok that worked thanks gizmo
22:08:48 <Miff> second question
22:09:45 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome Miff
22:09:46 <Gizmokid2005> ask away
22:10:20 <Miff> is there an app to design themes yet
22:10:28 <Gizmokid2005> no
22:10:41 <Miff> hehe ok i found something beta 4
22:11:02 <Miff> but wasnt sure if it would work or not
22:11:58 <Miff> oh wow
22:12:03 <Miff> it does work
22:12:12 <Gizmokid2005> Miff: yes, of course it does
22:12:24 <Gizmokid2005> The platform wouldn't have a beta link if it didn't work.
22:12:32 <Miff> thought you said there wasnt one
22:12:32 <KookyMan> Beta 4?
22:12:35 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller ensures it works before he puts it out
22:12:45 <Gizmokid2005> an actual app to design themes...no
22:12:54 <Miff> yes wait ill go get the link and be right back
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22:13:23 <Gizmokid2005> there must be some theme creator out ther
22:13:24 <Gizmokid2005> e
22:13:25 <Gizmokid2005> in beta
22:13:30 <Gizmokid2005> because the platform is B3
22:13:47 <KookyMan> I have to wonder, how hard would it be to create a portable version of VirtualBox... I think the only part you wouldn't be able to portablize is networking, and thats because of the drivers required.
22:13:59 <Gizmokid2005> you can't portablize it, because of the drivers
22:14:03 <Gizmokid2005> that's why there isn't one
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22:14:53 <KookyMan> Is it just the networking or is there other parts?
22:14:54 <Miff> http://portableapps.com/node/14569
22:15:06 <Gizmokid2005> other parts also
22:15:16 <Gizmokid2005> Miff: that was for the old platform, not for 2.0
22:15:22 <Miff> ohhhhhhhhh
22:15:26 <Miff> too bad
22:15:38 <Gizmokid2005> yes, you have to check the dates on some of that stuff
22:15:43 <Miff> hehe
22:15:47 <Miff> yup
22:16:04 <Miff> hope whoever did that last one will develop one for this new version
22:16:30 <Miff> im spreading it around indonesia now
22:16:34 <Miff> hhehe
22:16:37 <Gizmokid2005> :)
22:16:39 <Gizmokid2005> enjoy Miff
22:16:48 <Miff> tanks
22:17:32 <Miff> really love portable apps i tried mojo but didnt like the way it took over everything
22:18:17 <Miff> nice iff you wanna run photoshop with plugins but too slow for a flashdisk better to just keep the install on the flashdisk and install it
22:18:53 <Miff> im working as a missionary and teacher in indonesia and these guys over here hadnt ever heard of portable apps
22:19:54 <Miff> thanks guys
22:20:12 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome Miff
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23:06:12 <gluxon> Hey, can somebody help me with recompiling the PortableApps.com Menu?
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23:16:20 <JohnTHaller> gluxon: You need a legit copy of Delphi 2003 Studio (Turbo Delphi and other free ones will not work). And you need to compile and add in the PNG component (source is included in the 1.5 source code on SF).
23:16:43 <JohnTHaller> What are you compiling for anyway?
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23:31:21 <Chazz> hey JohnTHaller you around?
23:31:46 <JohnTHaller> sup
23:34:39 <Chazz> JohnTHaller, could you check out Bash Portable please? I'm quite sure it's ready for RC
23:35:48 <ZachThibeau> I checked it and it looks good
23:36:05 <ZachThibeau> I just haven't gotten to posting it on the release team page
23:36:16 <Chazz> yay, thanks for testing ZachThibeau :D
23:36:17 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I'll take a look at it this week.
23:36:26 <Chazz> thanks JohnTHaller :)
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23:37:05 <ZachThibeau> I've been trying to check other dev test just I haven't posted them on the release board, I may do so later tonight
23:38:49 <ZachThibeau> afaik though I'm one of the current release team members that's the most active :(
23:39:55 <JohnTHaller> it *IS* appreciated ZachThibeau, thank you
23:40:29 <ZachThibeau> well now I have free time I get bored fast so I figured I should do my job
23:44:12 <JohnTHaller> I've been doing my job today: http://portableapps.com/
23:44:52 <Gizmokid2005> I've noticed JohnTHaller :) Lots of updates :) If I wasn't so busy with work today I'd download and install
23:44:53 <ZachThibeau> lol my daytime job is janitorial work at a court house
23:44:59 <Gizmokid2005> and work on testing...but alas, I can't :(
23:45:04 <Chazz> Wow, good job JohnTHaller
23:45:23 <ZachThibeau> usually for 4 hours a day though last week I've been doing double shifts
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23:47:02 <ChrisMorgan> Hey JohnTHaller :-)
23:47:10 <JohnTHaller> hi chris
23:47:13 <ChrisMorgan> How's the PortableApps.com Launcher going?
23:47:17 <ChrisMorgan> Any chance of a preview?
23:47:27 <JohnTHaller> This week... honestly this time.
23:47:32 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
23:47:39 <Chazz> hey ChrisMorgan
23:47:41 <ChrisMorgan> How's your ankle?
23:47:43 <JohnTHaller> Just been sidelined by a cold and my achilles tendon
23:47:49 <ChrisMorgan> ya
23:48:05 <JohnTHaller> Kidney doc gave me permission to take advil, so doing better. need to keep resting and icing it.
23:48:21 <ChrisMorgan> I still don't understand why Java Portable is 14MB.
23:48:23 <ChrisMorgan> Good :-)
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23:48:41 <ChrisMorgan> Hello pa_5511! Can we help you?
23:49:19 <ChrisMorgan> gVim Portable is ready to go. I even made a nice screenshot of it (Aero, dunno if you'll want to redo it) with the gVim Portable source code open (seemed fitting). Do you want me to make the description text for it?
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23:49:45 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, Wow! Awesome! :D
23:49:57 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: it being a downloader is nothing to do with it. It shouldn't be more than 200KB at the upper limit.
23:50:27 <gluxon> ?
23:50:30 <gluxon> oh.
23:50:33 <ChrisMorgan> Or wait... "This is an online installer that downloads part of the application during installation." Does Java Portable include part of the application?
23:50:49 <gluxon> ... crack it open with 7-Zip.
23:51:01 <ChrisMorgan> I tried that.
23:51:07 <gluxon> ?
23:51:10 <ChrisMorgan> It was saying it was one of the NSIS DLLs that was big.
23:51:11 <gluxon> What happened?
23:51:15 <ChrisMorgan> John reckoned not.
23:51:20 <ChrisMorgan> Misreporting, he reckoned.
23:51:22 <gluxon> Let me check..
23:51:44 <ChrisMorgan> Can't remember which it was
23:51:54 <ChrisMorgan> I still think it should be tiny :-)
23:52:02 <gluxon> John, still avalible?
23:52:08 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: do you want me to make up the description text for gVim Portable?
23:52:33 <gluxon> I was eating dinner when you said the delphi thing...
23:52:34 <ChrisMorgan> I really must get together my proposal for unified code for SVN-handling programs.
23:52:52 <ChrisMorgan> And while I'm doing it I think I'll look into the Qt issue, it should be able to be handled the same way.
23:54:19 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: reg entries?
23:54:26 <ChrisMorgan> yes
23:54:34 <Gizmokid2005> ahh
23:54:40 <Gizmokid2005> weird...must be the way it's built/compiled
23:54:51 <ChrisMorgan> Essentially what I'm thinking of for SVN is just a fairly simple locking system. So each launcher creates a lock
23:54:56 <ChrisMorgan> "lock" file
23:55:18 <ChrisMorgan> And deletes it when it's done, and then the last one cleans it back up from the unified backup location.
23:55:29 <ChrisMorgan> But we'll also need to decide on a common SVN files location.
23:55:29 <JohnTHaller> ok back. yes Java Portable includes some files but not others
23:55:37 <ChrisMorgan> OK, thanks, I'm happy now :-)
23:55:50 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. PortableApps\CommonFiles\SVNData?
23:55:54 <JohnTHaller> Nice to hear about gVim. Is this the test version that's out now?
23:55:59 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
23:56:05 <ChrisMorgan> Custom build as noted.
23:56:07 <JohnTHaller> all good and happy?
23:56:11 <ChrisMorgan> Yup.
23:56:22 <JohnTHaller> And you're in for supporting it at least 6 months, right
23:56:45 <ChrisMorgan> I uploaded my image to portableapps.chrismorgan.info/pix/ something but I can't remember exactly what now :-( I'll dig it up a bit later today.
23:56:46 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
23:56:50 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, end of my free period now.
23:56:54 <JohnTHaller> Oh, screenshots now are Vista/Win7 with Frost and color turned all the way down. Done over a white background (like a new file in Notepad++)
23:56:57 <ChrisMorgan> I can be back in 50 minutes if you'd like
23:57:03 <ChrisMorgan> Yup, I did that.
23:57:13 <JohnTHaller> Ok, cool. We can prob push it out tomorrow :-)
23:57:22 <ChrisMorgan> Actually I had the default colour. But I did it over a white background.
23:58:35 <ChrisMorgan> Think http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/pix/gvim_portable_screenshot.png is it
23:58:45 <ChrisMorgan> yup
23:58:47 <ChrisMorgan> bye now
23:59:03 <Chazz> bye ChrisMorgan
23:59:04 <gluxon> wow... that looks pretty cool.
23:59:06 <gluxon> bye.
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