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00:01:09 <TmpltnPck> I was wondering, is there a way to add/change the icon for custom portable apps you add to the menu?
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02:33:55 <Kenwong> hello
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02:34:27 <Chazz> good-bye
02:34:31 <kenwong> yo~
02:34:38 <kenwong> i need help
02:35:03 <Chazz> wb
02:35:13 <Chazz> kenwong, how can we help you?
02:35:31 <kenwong> how can I update the softwares
02:35:43 <kenwong> i mean update all of them together
02:36:05 <Chazz> as of right now, only by downloading the individual installers
02:36:23 <kenwong> I have to download it one-by-one?
02:36:30 <Chazz> yup :(
02:37:17 <kenwong> then can I download all the stuff at the same time?
02:37:59 <Chazz> ya
02:38:13 <kenwong> where is the download link?
02:38:59 <Chazz> erm, sorry, i misinterpreted you question
02:40:05 <kenwong> Where can I download all the stuff together?
02:40:18 <Chazz> you cant
02:40:28 <Chazz> you have to download them each indiviually
02:40:35 <Whibo> portableappssuite
02:40:39 <Whibo> full
02:40:45 <Chazz> Whibo, thats not the most recent
02:40:50 <Whibo> idc
02:40:52 <Whibo> :P
02:41:15 <kenwong> Do you mean that NO FULL DOWNLOAD?
02:41:27 <Whibo> NO
02:41:27 <kenwong> just a most popular pack..
02:42:02 <Whibo> .def kenwong
02:42:02 <GizmoBot> Whibo: Sorry, but I don't know about kenwong
02:43:15 <kenwong> Then How can I add new stuff not included in the "PACK"
02:43:18 <Chazz> kenwong, and, the suite isn't the most recent
02:44:07 <kenwong> the suite is not updated at all?
02:44:32 <Chazz> it's updated whenever a enw version of PAP comes out
02:46:16 <kenwong> then how to add new softwares not in the suite
02:46:36 <Chazz> kenwong, go to that programs page on PA.c
02:46:44 <Chazz> and click the big red download button
02:50:44 <kenwong> thz
02:50:50 <kenwong> problem solved..
02:51:27 <Chazz> yay! :)
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03:06:03 <Chazz> hey TimClark :)
03:06:13 <TimClark> Whibo, do not be an ass during support
03:06:28 <TimClark> if you are wrong, or can't be helpful, just be quiett
03:07:00 <TimClark> Chazz was right, you were wrong
03:08:04 <TimClark> kenwong and chazz did not need your interfence
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03:11:01 <TimClark> and don't .def people for no reason, especially visitors during support
03:11:14 <TimClark> it just confuses things more
03:11:52 <TimClark> siging off
03:11:57 <Chazz> bye TimClark
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11:56:13 <pa_8572> Help!
11:57:42 <pa_8572> I am having my students load and use portable apps. One of my students reported the following "I have installed the Portable Apps twice onto my flash drive and both times the Open Office program stops responding when trying to finish the Wizard. Any ideas as to why this would happen?"
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12:34:03 <Bensawsome> pa_8572
12:34:23 <Bensawsome> it could be that the student's us bdrive is slow
12:34:48 <Bensawsome> do all the students have the same one? or are they different?
12:35:05 <Bensawsome> *usb drive
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12:57:32 <pa_8572> They have different usb drives
12:59:33 <Bensawsome> ok
12:59:40 <Bensawsome> and sorry i stopped res[onding
12:59:45 <Bensawsome> *responding
12:59:54 <Bensawsome> the wifi went out in the room i was in :/
12:59:57 <Bensawsome> anyways
13:00:03 <Bensawsome> but ya that is probably their problem
13:00:19 <Bensawsome> their usb drive has slower read/write speed then your other students
13:01:10 <pa_8572> ah, does that mean it is an older one?
13:05:21 <Bensawsome> pa_8572 not neccdesarily
13:05:43 <Bensawsome> some usb drives just have slower read/writes speeds then others
13:05:53 <Bensawsome> its with how the manufacturur makes them
13:08:05 <pa_8572> rats! is there some instructions that I should be giving the students in regards to what type of flash drive to buy?
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13:19:53 <pa_9918> I need alot of help here.
13:20:11 <pa_9918> Ok, so I have pidgin for my flash drive, and for some reason, the files for it are corrupted.
13:20:21 <pa_9918> I try to delete it, but i can't do anything with the files.
13:20:40 <pa_9918> Can someone please have the decency to tell me what I need to do here?
13:21:19 <pa_9918> Is anyone here?
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13:22:24 <Bensawsome> pa_8572 well he/she would probably need to look at the reviews online
13:22:29 <Bensawsome> and pa_...
13:22:30 <Bensawsome> lol
13:22:33 <Bensawsome> they left >_>
13:22:59 <pa_8572> yes, --no loss considering the 'dencency' comment :-)
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13:23:10 <Bensawsome> heh... ya
13:23:17 <pa_4494> I need help.
13:23:18 <Bensawsome> pa_4494 ah you are back
13:23:19 <Bensawsome> lol
13:23:24 <pa_4494> How do I delete corrupted files?
13:23:29 <Bensawsome> hmmm
13:23:37 <Bensawsome> how did they get corrupt?
13:23:37 <pa_8572> Thank you for your help.
13:23:44 <Bensawsome> no problem pa_8572 :)
13:23:48 <pa_4494> I don't know, it's my pidgin client.
13:23:53 <Bensawsome> hmmm
13:23:55 <Bensawsome> lets see
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13:24:13 <Bensawsome> have you tried deleting them on another computer?
13:24:27 <pa_4494> I've tried to use Eraser, but all it did was duplicate my files with pidgin. It's on my flash drive.
13:24:44 <Bensawsome> hmmm
13:24:47 <pa_4494> It's really annoying, and I just got the drive yesterday.
13:24:52 <Bensawsome> ok
13:25:03 <Bensawsome> do you have any info you want on that drive?
13:25:10 <Bensawsome> you could try reformatting it
13:25:22 <pa_4494> Not really, I tried to do that, and it wouldn't let me.
13:25:27 <Bensawsome> hmmm
13:25:33 <Bensawsome> well
13:25:41 <Bensawsome> it could be a few things
13:25:50 <pa_4494> Is there something I can do, just to delete the files that are causing the problem and overide the whole "corrupted" thing?
13:25:51 <Bensawsome> it could be something is screwy with the computer
13:25:57 <Bensawsome> something with the usb port
13:25:59 <pa_4494> I doubt it.
13:25:59 <Bensawsome> or the usb drive
13:26:01 <pa_4494> Maybe.
13:26:02 <Bensawsome> like i said
13:26:09 <Bensawsome> have you tried it on another computer?
13:26:17 <pa_4494> Yes.
13:26:25 <Bensawsome> ok so it does the same thing on both...
13:26:36 <Bensawsome> then probably something is screwed up with the drive
13:26:45 <pa_4494> Is there a program that will delete the files regardless of it being corrupt?
13:26:52 <Bensawsome> well
13:26:58 <Bensawsome> since you cant even reformat it
13:27:05 <Bensawsome> its something with the usb drive
13:27:22 <Bensawsome> and you tried reformatting it on another computer too?
13:27:32 <pa_4494> I can delete files except for the pidgin ones, and pidgin used to be my favorite aim client. I've severely lost confidence in it now.
13:27:50 <Bensawsome> hmmm
13:28:08 <Bensawsome> well it isnt pidgin if you cant even reformat the drive
13:28:08 <Bensawsome> oh
13:28:10 <Bensawsome> duh
13:28:12 <Bensawsome> im stupid
13:28:20 <Bensawsome> have you tried doing a chkdsk on it?
13:28:28 <pa_4494> No
13:28:31 <Bensawsome> ok
13:28:47 <Bensawsome> go Start > Run
13:28:48 <MaienM> pa_4494: does your drive have a "read-only" mode?
13:29:02 <MaienM> like, a physical switch on it
13:29:03 <pa_4494> I don't think so.
13:29:08 <Bensawsome> MaienM he said he could delete all files except for pidgin ones
13:29:20 <pa_4494> ...
13:29:23 <MaienM> oh, I must have overlooked that, sorry then
13:29:24 <Bensawsome> lol
13:29:26 <Bensawsome> ya
13:29:28 <Bensawsome> thanks though
13:29:32 <Bensawsome> but ya
13:29:37 <Bensawsome> go Start > Run
13:29:40 <Bensawsome> type in
13:29:41 <Bensawsome> cmd
13:29:44 <Bensawsome> press enter
13:30:25 <pa_4494> I don't have a run command on the computer I'm using. Is there another way?
13:30:33 <Bensawsome> oh
13:30:34 <Bensawsome> ummm
13:30:42 <Bensawsome> do you have administrator on this computer?
13:30:46 <pa_4494> No.
13:30:48 <Bensawsome> administrator rights
13:30:49 <Bensawsome> oooh
13:30:52 <Bensawsome> then no you cant do this
13:30:53 <Bensawsome> well
13:31:05 <Bensawsome> do you have access to any computer which has admin rights?
13:31:09 <pa_4494> Should I just delete files and return the drive?
13:31:11 <Bensawsome> err which you have admin rights on
13:31:28 <pa_4494> My home computer, but thats along ways away.
13:31:33 <Bensawsome> oh :(
13:31:36 <Bensawsome> hmmm
13:31:37 <Bensawsome> well
13:31:45 <Bensawsome> you have a windows key on your computer?
13:31:52 <pa_4494> Yeah.
13:31:54 <Bensawsome> err keyboard
13:31:56 <Bensawsome> cool
13:32:06 <Bensawsome> press that key and R at the same time
13:32:12 <Bensawsome> and it might open the run dialog
13:32:15 <pa_4494> So, should I just return the drive?
13:32:19 <Bensawsome> hmmm
13:32:25 <Bensawsome> might be a good bet :/
13:32:25 <pa_4494> Nope, it did not.
13:32:29 <Bensawsome> but
13:32:30 <Bensawsome> if oyu can
13:32:34 <pa_4494> I can.
13:32:39 <Bensawsome> do chkdsk on the drive first
13:32:42 <pa_4494> So, why can't pidgin files be deleted?
13:32:49 <Bensawsome> really... im not sure
13:32:54 <Bensawsome> it could be any number of reasons
13:33:01 <Bensawsome> bad chip on the drive
13:33:10 <Bensawsome> just something screwed up with the formatting...
13:33:13 <pa_4494> What did MaienM think?
13:33:30 <Bensawsome> he thought you had a write protection switch on it
13:33:37 <Bensawsome> a physical switch on the drive
13:33:43 <Bensawsome> so it can only read from the drive
13:33:49 <Bensawsome> but since you can delete other files
13:33:58 <Bensawsome> that isnt the problem :/
13:34:28 <pa_4494> Again, do you know of a program that I can use to simply remove those files? There has to be one out there.
13:34:33 <Bensawsome> but ya. try chkdsk if you can first, and if that doesnt work or you just wanna then return it
13:34:54 <Bensawsome> pa_4494 if eraser hasnt i dunno of any that can... there arent programs for everything unfortunately
13:35:11 <Bensawsome> shoot
13:35:18 <Bensawsome> i started chkdsk on my C drive XD
13:35:20 <Bensawsome> lol
13:35:25 <Bensawsome> now my computer is lagging :?
13:35:28 <Bensawsome> *;/
13:36:15 <Bensawsome> but ya... chkdsk and returning it are the only options i see here unfortunately...
13:36:25 <pa_4494> What would that do?
13:36:41 <Bensawsome> chkdsk basically scans the drive for errors and attempts to fix them
13:36:48 <Bensawsome> usually its pretty succesful
13:37:01 <Bensawsome> so that would probably be your best bet
13:37:24 <pa_4494> How often will that work?
13:37:35 <Bensawsome> well
13:37:37 <Bensawsome> for me
13:37:46 <Bensawsome> its worked almost every time from what i can remember
13:38:04 <Bensawsome> so ya
13:38:24 <Bensawsome> if you can get to a computer where you have administrator rights, try chkdsk :)
13:38:39 <Bensawsome> to get it to scan your drive
13:38:49 <Bensawsome> you type: chkdsk X
13:38:58 <Bensawsome> where X is the drive letter of your USB Drive
13:40:13 <pa_4494> Do you know of an app that i can use that is like the run command?
13:41:55 <Bensawsome> well
13:42:00 <Bensawsome> basically you have to open up cmd
13:42:21 <pa_4494> Can I use Aim on the portable thingy?
13:42:29 <Bensawsome> like the aim client?
13:42:33 <pa_4494> Yeah.
13:42:36 <Bensawsome> no you cant
13:42:43 <Bensawsome> its not portable
13:42:49 <pa_4494> I don't really trust pidgin anymore if it's going to do that stuff.
13:42:59 <Bensawsome> no
13:43:01 <Bensawsome> i can tell you
13:43:01 <pa_4494> I was able to install ccleaner on it.
13:43:06 <Bensawsome> pidgin didnt do this
13:43:16 <Bensawsome> do you eject your usb drive correctly?
13:43:19 <pa_4494> Well, pidgin decided not to run.
13:43:26 <pa_4494> probably not.
13:43:33 <Bensawsome> then thats why its corrupt
13:43:38 <Bensawsome> you just pull it out?
13:43:45 <pa_4494> Yeah.
13:43:48 <Bensawsome> ok
13:43:49 <Bensawsome> then ya
13:43:57 <Bensawsome> pidgin prbly didnt finish exiting
13:43:59 <pa_4494> that never happened to me before though.
13:44:00 <Bensawsome> you pulled it out
13:44:03 <Bensawsome> which corrupted it
13:44:10 <Bensawsome> well it doesnt always happen
13:44:33 <Bensawsome> but ya... make sure you safely eject first
13:44:34 <Bensawsome> oh
13:44:35 <Bensawsome> lol
13:44:37 <Bensawsome> to do that
13:44:51 <Bensawsome> there is a little icon with an arrow in your system tray
13:44:55 <Bensawsome> left click that
13:45:06 <Bensawsome> and it will list atleast one thing
13:45:09 <Bensawsome> find your usb driove
13:45:12 <Bensawsome> and click it
13:45:23 <Bensawsome> if it says "cannot eject" or something like that
13:45:44 <Bensawsome> make sure all programs and files that are on the usb drive are compltely closed
13:45:48 <Bensawsome> then try again
13:45:50 <Bensawsome> ok?
13:47:14 <Bensawsome> i have to go for a bit now... sorry pa_4494
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14:02:16 <Bensawsome> ok back >_>
14:02:19 <Bensawsome> OHAI sar3th :3
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16:14:07 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
16:14:13 <sar3th> hi SteveLamerton
16:14:30 <Gizmokid2005> hello st
16:14:34 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton*
16:14:41 <SteveLamerton> Hi sar3th, Gizmokid2005 :)
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18:07:18 <Sparksman> hello guys! anybody here with some knowledge about amsn portable?
18:10:13 <Gizmokid2005> Sparksman: probably not, you can ask, but you'll most likely have to post your question in the forums.
18:17:03 <Sparksman> mhm, I see... well, in short, I installed and configurated amsn portable on my home machine (Vista SP2, german, admin rights), works fine so far! plugging in the usb stick at my office pc (XP Prof. SP3, german, admin rights), amsn portable starts w/o any fault, all settings and behavior normal. however, when I plug the usb stick to my home pc again and start amsn portable, it starts like fresh installed. all settings gone, default
18:19:22 <Sparksman> oh, I've forgotten, the drive letter of the usb stick is different at home (Z:, manually set with win drive managment) and in the office (D:, set by win automatically). don't know if this is important too or not...
18:19:48 <Gizmokid2005> the launcher should automatically take care of that...that's the point of what we do.
18:19:50 <Gizmokid2005> that's odd...
18:20:04 <Gizmokid2005> when you run it at work, it shuts down properly right
18:20:08 <Gizmokid2005> and without errors?
18:20:16 <Gizmokid2005> and you safely remove your drive in windows right?
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18:25:00 <Sparksman> yeah, closing amsn with menu "close", closing w/o any error, and removing the usb stick with the windows usb remove tool (RM click on icon, selecting "remove the usb stick", no errors. the same at home too. and yeah, I've a whole bunch of PA tools installed on my usb stick so far, all of them working fine. so I'm a liitle bit worried why this new PA tool doesn't work like expected...
18:25:19 <Gizmokid2005> Sparksman: ok...
18:25:37 <Gizmokid2005> when you get back from work, and plug it in on your home computer, is there anything in your \Data\ folder?
18:25:51 <Gizmokid2005> in AMSNPortable\Data\
18:27:07 <Sparksman> yes. folder "settings", containing folder "amsn" and "aMSNPortableSettings.ini". folder "amsn" contains a lot of more folders aso.
18:27:13 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm
18:27:14 <Gizmokid2005> ok
18:27:28 <Gizmokid2005> give me a moment Sparksman
18:28:22 <Sparksman> yoh, no prob man. maybe we should freeze the discusion by now and I'm looking tomorrow how's the amsn behavior at the office pc...
18:29:14 <Gizmokid2005> it works fine when you go from home to work, but not back, right?
18:29:20 <Gizmokid2005> or do you use a different version at home first?
18:29:22 <Sparksman> yes
18:29:44 <Gizmokid2005> yes?
18:29:49 <Sparksman> no! it always the same version I'm starting
18:29:53 <Gizmokid2005> Ok
18:30:00 <Gizmokid2005> but it works from home to work, but not work to home...
18:30:01 <Gizmokid2005> odd
18:30:14 <Sparksman> hehe, don't tell me...
18:32:51 <Gizmokid2005> Sparksman: Make a post in the forums, and what you should do, is copy the aMSNPortableSettings.ini file contents at home after you close it, and then at work after you close it, or at home after you've been at work before you open it...and then put both of those in that too
18:32:57 <Gizmokid2005> that should help us figure out what's going on.
18:36:12 <Sparksman> ok, will do! well, the only reason I moved to amsn portable was, I know amsn from ubuntu very well, and I was annoyed using separate M$ messenger at home and office, and therefore separated logs and chat logs too... so yeah... but I'll post the sitch. hopefully there's a solution soon. thx for time. cu! bye Sparksman
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19:06:43 <pa_1424> Help
19:06:54 <Gizmokid2005> what can we do for you pa_1424?
19:07:34 <pa_1424> Well i really like what you are doing with making this apps protable but how are you doing it?
19:07:46 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1424: what do you mean, how are we doing it?
19:08:08 <pa_1424> How do you make these apps portable?
19:08:27 <Gizmokid2005> we create NSIS launchers for them to handle any settings/files/registry entries, etc that the app needs
19:08:32 <Gizmokid2005> and clean them all up on close.
19:09:33 <pa_1424> Really? I have been looking for some kind of program to do that...i have a few apps i would like to make protable
19:10:20 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1424: look here http://portableapps.com/node/14868
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19:10:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1424: and here http://portableapps.com/development
19:11:28 <pa_1424> These steps will show me how to make them like the ones on the site?
19:11:52 <pa_1424> i am a computer tech and i would like alot of virus scanners and stuff like that so i dont have to install them
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19:13:22 <Gizmokid2005> they'll give you an idea of how to do it
19:13:25 <Gizmokid2005> and should answer most of your questions
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19:28:41 <dinger> hi there
19:29:18 <dinger> is there a possibility to remove the videos from the right panel.
19:29:27 <Bensawsome> no not right now
19:29:32 <Bensawsome> it will be in the future though
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22:55:38 <pa_1265> hey
22:56:45 <sar3th> hi pa_1265, how can we help you?
22:57:07 <pa_1265> I just bought a Sandisk Cruzer Micro and it wants me to Enable U3, will this conflict with Portable Apps?
22:59:04 <Whibo> no
22:59:22 <Whibo> it will only not autorun portableapps
22:59:39 <Whibo> you'll always be able to sart it yourself
23:00:01 <pa_1265> ok, cool thanks for the help :D
23:00:17 <Whibo> i personnaly got rid of the u3 software cause it sucked impo vs portableapps
23:00:19 <Whibo> :P
23:01:11 <pa_1265> yeah, that is my opinion too, but i really need a portable version of SKYPE and i don't see it as a portable app anymore
23:02:17 <Whibo> but you could always run it manually?
23:02:31 <pa_1265> maybe?
23:02:35 <pa_1265> not sure
23:02:40 <Whibo> try...
23:02:43 <Whibo> :D
23:02:47 <pa_1265> of course :D
23:03:14 <pa_1265> is it easy to REMOVE U3 later?
23:03:21 <sar3th> yes
23:03:25 <Whibo> yes
23:03:26 <pa_1265> great
23:03:33 <sar3th> it comes with its own uninstaller
23:03:34 <pa_1265> you guys are great
23:03:38 <pa_1265> cool
23:03:41 <Whibo> :o
23:03:44 <Whibo> :D
23:03:53 <pa_1265> hey, if anyone has a REAL ANALYSIS question let me know!
23:03:55 <pa_1265> haha :D
23:04:01 <Whibo> :P
23:04:19 <pa_1265> see ya
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23:06:31 <Whibo> :o
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