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00:57:45 <kai_62656> TheWarden?
00:57:54 <powerjuce> hello all
00:57:57 <Chazz> hey powerjuce :D
00:57:58 <kai_62656> hi powerjuce
00:58:15 <powerjuce> hows the room been
00:58:34 <Chazz> quiet.
00:58:41 <kai_62656> mhmm
01:00:31 <powerjuce> i just finished testing smplayer on 4 diff osses
01:00:41 <Chazz> wow
01:02:19 <powerjuce> i just gotta post... :(
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01:38:42 <Seth_Hikaru> Hi.
01:38:59 <sar3th> hello Seth_Hikaru
01:39:11 <Seth_Hikaru> I can't seem to get PortableApps.com Installer to work
01:39:24 <Seth_Hikaru> the one that makes apps portable for you
01:39:25 <Seth_Hikaru> I have a paste bin
01:39:36 <Seth_Hikaru> http://pastebin.com/d5bebcb2d
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01:40:10 <sar3th> did you run the provided exe?
01:40:21 <Seth_Hikaru> what do you mean run?
01:40:32 <Seth_Hikaru> like the app i am trying to make
01:40:38 <Seth_Hikaru> or the installer creator
01:41:27 <sar3th> the installer creater
01:41:39 <Seth_Hikaru> Of course.
01:41:48 <Seth_Hikaru> The error is at the end of that pastebin
01:41:54 <Seth_Hikaru> its the last line
01:42:17 <sar3th> oh okay, sorry, didn't see it
01:42:40 <sar3th> the !endif?
01:42:52 <Seth_Hikaru> i have no idea
01:43:03 <Seth_Hikaru> its says something like operation aborted
01:43:41 <Seth_Hikaru> wait
01:43:47 <Seth_Hikaru> i bet pastebin cut it off
01:44:16 <Seth_Hikaru> oh hehe
01:44:22 <Seth_Hikaru> i pasted the script
01:44:25 <Seth_Hikaru> not the log
01:44:29 <Seth_Hikaru> sorry about that
01:45:48 <Seth_Hikaru> http://pastebin.com/d5959a5
01:45:54 <Seth_Hikaru> sar3th!
01:46:05 <sar3th> yeah, reading
01:46:30 <Seth_Hikaru> its line 479
01:46:34 <Seth_Hikaru> bottom of page
01:47:18 <sar3th> huh, strange
01:47:46 <sar3th> do you have any files in the Other folder?
01:49:40 <Seth_Hikaru> Like?\
01:49:48 <sar3th> just any file
01:49:58 <sar3th> in the folder called "other"
01:50:04 <Seth_Hikaru> Yeah I know
01:50:12 <Seth_Hikaru> nothing i put in there
01:50:22 <Seth_Hikaru> it genreates everything and puts it in there
01:50:26 <Seth_Hikaru> like the source and stuff
01:50:38 <sar3th> that stuff is there?
01:50:49 <Seth_Hikaru> wait what stuff?
01:51:00 <Seth_Hikaru> just the source
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01:51:12 <Seth_Hikaru> and inside the source folder the images
01:51:19 <sar3th> yeah...strange then
01:51:29 <Seth_Hikaru> so why would it be telling me that?
01:51:31 <sar3th> because the line which fails is File /r /x thumbs.db /x PortableApps.comInstaller*.* "..\..\Other\*.*"
01:51:38 <sar3th> i don't know :(
01:51:49 <Seth_Hikaru> Can I comment out the line?
01:52:08 <Seth_Hikaru> cause the line that is exactly like that doesnt fail
01:52:17 <Seth_Hikaru> almost like it*
01:52:18 <sar3th> are you planning to release that app, or is it just for your own usage?
01:52:26 <Seth_Hikaru> maybe release it
01:52:41 <Seth_Hikaru> not sure yet
01:52:43 <sar3th> well, i suggest you comment it out now and see if it works
01:52:48 <Seth_Hikaru> ok
01:52:51 <Seth_Hikaru> hey
01:53:09 <sar3th> and if you want to release it, you post it on the forums and sate the issue again, maybe it's a real bug
01:53:16 <Seth_Hikaru> do i just change the line in the other folder
01:53:33 <Seth_Hikaru> of the program or the creator?
01:54:00 <sar3th> of the program
01:54:04 <Seth_Hikaru> ok
01:56:48 <Seth_Hikaru> sar3th!
01:56:49 <Seth_Hikaru> !else ;PLUGIN INSTALLER
01:56:53 <Seth_Hikaru> hold on
01:57:27 <Seth_Hikaru> http://pastebin.com/d7d534b23
01:57:30 <Seth_Hikaru> look at that
01:57:35 <Seth_Hikaru> something doesnt seem right
01:58:56 <Seth_Hikaru> sar3th!
01:58:59 <Seth_Hikaru> You there?
01:59:18 <sar3th> sure
01:59:50 <Seth_Hikaru> did you read that?
01:59:54 <sar3th> yes
01:59:58 <Seth_Hikaru> look at it*
02:00:05 <Seth_Hikaru> does it look wrong somewhere?
02:00:14 <sar3th> not really
02:00:37 <Seth_Hikaru> dang
02:00:43 <Seth_Hikaru> i just commented out that line
02:00:52 <Seth_Hikaru> it still does the error on the same line
02:01:02 <Seth_Hikaru> same exact error
02:02:13 <Seth_Hikaru> sar3th?
02:02:21 <Seth_Hikaru> You still with me?
02:02:26 <sar3th> yes
02:02:34 <Seth_Hikaru> help please?
02:02:40 <sar3th> which application are you trying to make portable?
02:02:49 <Seth_Hikaru> Game Editor
02:03:16 <sar3th> did you use the plugin installation option?
02:03:31 <Seth_Hikaru> what?
02:03:49 <sar3th> in the portableapps installer, you can add additional components
02:03:58 <sar3th> did you use that?
02:04:13 <Seth_Hikaru> um no
02:04:18 <Seth_Hikaru> i don't know how to
02:04:40 <Seth_Hikaru> do you have to uncheck the interactive feature box?
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02:05:29 <sar3th> interactive feature box?
02:11:47 <Seth_Hikaru> sar3th!
02:11:52 <Seth_Hikaru> Interactive Mode Box
02:13:01 <sar3th> hm..i don't know honestly
02:13:10 <sar3th> hang on a second..
02:13:51 <Seth_Hikaru> ok
02:14:21 <Seth_Hikaru> btw im using version 0.91.7
02:14:30 <Seth_Hikaru> of the creator
02:16:38 <sar3th> okay, i'll take a look, downloading now..
02:18:10 <sar3th> yeah, interactive mode should be enabled
02:18:32 <Seth_Hikaru> so
02:18:39 <Seth_Hikaru> help me here
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02:21:40 <sar3th> sorry, i need some time to gather files to use with the installer
02:22:22 <sar3th> okay, seems to work as expected :/
02:22:41 <Seth_Hikaru> what?
02:22:47 <Seth_Hikaru> you download game editor?
02:22:59 <Seth_Hikaru> i think i should give you my copy
02:22:59 <sar3th> no, i used the installer to create a portableapp
02:23:04 <sar3th> just a random one
02:23:08 <Seth_Hikaru> wait
02:23:17 <Seth_Hikaru> did you take an installer program?
02:23:25 <Seth_Hikaru> and use that to make a portable app?
02:23:42 <sar3th> yeah, i took http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_installer
02:23:47 <sar3th> .title
02:23:48 <GizmoBot> sar3th: PortableApps.com Installer | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
02:24:35 <sar3th> did you use that Seth_Hikaru ?
02:25:35 <Seth_Hikaru> yes
02:25:48 <sar3th> okay, good
02:26:03 <Seth_Hikaru> so then what?
02:26:05 <sar3th> can you provide me with a link to the application you are trying to make portable?
02:26:15 <Seth_Hikaru> do you want a download?
02:26:20 <sar3th> yes
02:26:27 <Seth_Hikaru> or my copy of the files?
02:26:40 <Seth_Hikaru> mine is modified so it has a help file
02:26:54 <sar3th> ah okay, then your files would be better
02:26:55 <Seth_Hikaru> like help.html
02:26:59 <Seth_Hikaru> ok
02:27:11 <Seth_Hikaru> u have 7zip portable?
02:27:24 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Ok guys, I'm not quite following, but where exactly is the issue?
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02:27:36 <sar3th> the app doesn't compile
02:27:43 <Gizmokid2005> with?
02:27:45 <Gizmokid2005> in NSIS?
02:27:53 <sar3th> yes
02:27:58 <Gizmokid2005> trying to compile the launcher or the installer?
02:28:17 <sar3th> the installer iirc
02:28:49 <Gizmokid2005> using the PortableApps.Com Installer? (The actual app)?
02:29:12 <sar3th> well, the installer ofc
02:29:22 <sar3th> correct me if i'm wrong Seth_Hikaru
02:29:32 <Seth_Hikaru> shoot
02:29:36 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: what's the error it gives? And can you verify what we've said?
02:29:46 <Seth_Hikaru> um i have no idea
02:29:50 <Gizmokid2005> well
02:29:52 <Seth_Hikaru> i can get the error iup
02:29:59 <Gizmokid2005> are you getting an error with the installer or launcher?
02:30:49 <Seth_Hikaru> http://pastebin.com/d5364c675
02:31:09 <Seth_Hikaru> the portableapps.com installer
02:31:13 <Seth_Hikaru> ok
02:31:16 <Seth_Hikaru> that app
02:31:19 <Seth_Hikaru> i installed
02:31:25 <Seth_Hikaru> to make other apps portable
02:31:46 <Seth_Hikaru> im trying to make Game Editor portable
02:32:45 <Seth_Hikaru> but when it created the code for the installer
02:32:49 <Seth_Hikaru> creates
02:33:09 <Seth_Hikaru> it fails to create the installer
02:33:16 <Seth_Hikaru> it creates installers right?
02:33:29 <Gizmokid2005> that's that the PortableApps.Com Installer app does
02:33:41 <Gizmokid2005> give me a moment
02:33:44 <Seth_Hikaru> ok
02:33:51 <Seth_Hikaru> if you need game editor
02:33:57 <Seth_Hikaru> ill give you a link of my files
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02:34:28 <Gizmokid2005> TheWarden_______: connection issues?
02:34:43 <Chazz> 5 of him! O_O
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02:34:54 <Seth_Hikaru> yeah no kidding
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02:35:06 <Chazz> lol
02:35:21 <Seth_Hikaru> so can you continue with my problem please
02:35:33 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: yes, I said give me a moment
02:37:27 <Seth_Hikaru> http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a7b88d7fe4c253fa5bf1f12f1ff3f30ae04e75f6e8ebb871
02:37:36 <Seth_Hikaru> those are my files
02:37:52 <sar3th> 0 items found to display!
02:38:24 <Gizmokid2005> no files Seth_Hikaru
02:40:03 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: did you modify the PortableApps.comInstaller.nsi at all?
02:40:15 <Seth_Hikaru> no
02:40:43 <Gizmokid2005> can you pastebin those lines again?
02:40:56 <Gizmokid2005> it's either been deleted or expired
02:40:56 <Gizmokid2005> or I'd look
02:41:10 <Gizmokid2005> just pastebin your whole installer.nsi
02:41:22 <Seth_Hikaru> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?4dtnjmjzntk
02:41:41 <Gizmokid2005> This file is currently set to private. If this problem persists or you need further assistance, contact support.
02:41:42 <Seth_Hikaru> installer.nsi?
02:41:48 <Seth_Hikaru> damn thing
02:42:02 <sar3th> Seth_Hikaru: you need to set the file to "public", otherwise we cannot access it
02:42:04 <Gizmokid2005> PortableApps.comInstaller.nsi
02:42:05 <Gizmokid2005> that file
02:42:24 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: once you get your whole package uploaded it'll be in there
02:42:25 <Seth_Hikaru> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?4dtnjmjzntk
02:42:27 <Gizmokid2005> that'll be easier
02:43:26 <Seth_Hikaru> http://pastebin.com/d77a18cb9
02:43:34 <Seth_Hikaru> did that new link work?
02:43:40 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
02:43:40 <Gizmokid2005> I got it
02:43:42 <Seth_Hikaru> ok
02:43:53 <Seth_Hikaru> theres my installer.nsi
02:43:58 <sar3th> aah..found the issue i think
02:44:10 <sar3th> you didn't use the right directory structure Seth_Hikaru
02:44:12 <Seth_Hikaru> and the 64 dollar answer is?
02:44:19 <Seth_Hikaru> figures
02:44:30 <Seth_Hikaru> nsis is problamtic as hell for that
02:44:39 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: no, it's your structure
02:44:44 <Seth_Hikaru> inno doesn't care so much
02:44:45 <Gizmokid2005> you need to follow what other apps use.
02:44:50 <Seth_Hikaru> so
02:44:57 <Gizmokid2005> if you don't the installer won't work
02:45:00 <Seth_Hikaru> can you like pastebin what it should be like
02:45:08 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: just look at any other app
02:45:09 <Seth_Hikaru> please
02:45:09 <Gizmokid2005> or
02:45:11 <Gizmokid2005> this link
02:45:22 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format
02:45:29 <Gizmokid2005> sar3th: take it from here, ping me if you need me
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02:46:31 <Seth_Hikaru> sarth
02:46:44 <Seth_Hikaru> sar3th*
02:46:52 <Seth_Hikaru> thanks Gizmokid2005
02:47:04 <Seth_Hikaru> i appreciate the help
02:47:22 <sar3th> Seth_Hikaru: did you read his link?
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03:07:24 <Seth_Hikaru> Fuck!
03:07:35 <Seth_Hikaru> sar3th!
03:07:39 <kai_62656> ...
03:07:40 <Seth_Hikaru> I need help again.
03:07:50 <sar3th> plase don't swear Seth_Hikaru
03:07:51 <Seth_Hikaru> I hate this stupid peice of crap
03:07:53 <sar3th> i'm here
03:08:15 <Seth_Hikaru> I can't tell you how many times I've tried to make a portable app the old way and failed.
03:08:26 <Seth_Hikaru> I still can't do it the easy way.
03:08:35 <Seth_Hikaru> I get the same exact error
03:08:48 <sar3th> yeah, you need to modify your file strucure a bit
03:08:53 <sar3th> and, you need a launcher
03:09:30 <Seth_Hikaru> http://pastebin.com/df988e82
03:09:49 <Seth_Hikaru> I'll upload the re arranged file structure
03:10:11 <sar3th> okay
03:11:54 <Seth_Hikaru> Get 7zip portable ready
03:11:57 <Seth_Hikaru> or 7zip
03:12:04 <Seth_Hikaru> your choice
03:13:02 <sar3th> yes, i'm ready
03:14:25 <Seth_Hikaru> http://pastebin.com/df988e82
03:14:34 <Gizmokid2005> wrong link Seth_Hikaru
03:15:07 <Seth_Hikaru> wtf
03:15:13 <Seth_Hikaru> i must have hit shift c
03:15:53 <Seth_Hikaru> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tmgcmln0yoj
03:17:28 <sar3th> okay Seth_Hikaru, found your error
03:18:02 <Seth_Hikaru> and the $64,000 dollar answer is?
03:18:05 <sar3th> you normally have a image folder in the "Other" folder
03:18:12 <Seth_Hikaru> and?
03:18:22 <Seth_Hikaru> I don't?
03:18:36 <sar3th> yeah
03:18:42 <Seth_Hikaru> anything else?
03:18:51 <sar3th> nope
03:19:01 <sar3th> if you move the folder App\Game Editor\Docs to Other\Docs, it works
03:19:06 <sar3th> for example
03:19:10 <Seth_Hikaru> no
03:19:25 <Seth_Hikaru> i have to go through and edit the main help.html file
03:19:30 <Seth_Hikaru> so it redirects
03:19:32 <Seth_Hikaru> well
03:19:56 <Seth_Hikaru> i guess i could get notepad++ to auto change all the source file locations
03:20:01 <sar3th> yep, you will need to do that
03:20:04 <sar3th> that is a good idea
03:20:05 <Seth_Hikaru> but im too lazy to do that
03:20:17 <Seth_Hikaru> i was doing it manually with notepad
03:20:25 <Seth_Hikaru> ah what the heck ill do it
03:20:36 <Gizmokid2005> what is the
03:20:36 <Seth_Hikaru> ok
03:20:43 <Gizmokid2005> the \docs folder for
03:20:50 <Seth_Hikaru> porn
03:21:00 * Seth_Hikaru is being sarcastic
03:21:11 <Seth_Hikaru> That was honestly a really dumb question
03:21:18 <Seth_Hikaru> not to be mean
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03:21:29 <Seth_Hikaru> OHAI
03:21:33 <Seth_Hikaru> !*
03:21:39 <kai_62656> hello pa_1770 how can we help you?
03:21:49 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: you need to quit with the remarks like that
03:21:54 <Seth_Hikaru> ok
03:21:56 <Seth_Hikaru> im sorry
03:22:01 * Seth_Hikaru hangs head
03:22:22 <Seth_Hikaru> so sar3th
03:22:24 <pa_1770> please list all storage mediums that can run portable apps software - help
03:22:42 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1770: basically any storage meduim you can plug into a computer
03:23:05 <pa_1770> has anyone run any apps from a cd or dvd?
03:23:08 <kai_62656> basically anything you can store in it
03:23:10 <kai_62656> hmm
03:23:16 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1770: yes you can
03:23:21 <Gizmokid2005> but they are read only
03:23:21 <kai_62656> some can run from a cd but you can change settings
03:23:22 <pa_1770> rreally?
03:23:24 <Gizmokid2005> and won't save any changes
03:23:33 <kai_62656> *cant
03:23:51 <pa_1770> what about data?
03:24:06 <pa_1770> by read only. explain
03:24:27 <Seth_Hikaru> floppy disk, cd, flash drive, internal hard drive, raid, scsi drive, internal harddrive, solid states drive, memory card, ide hard drive, dvd, blueray disc, external hard drive
03:24:37 <pa_1770> wow!
03:24:43 <pa_1770> thnx
03:24:44 <Seth_Hikaru> i cant think of any more
03:24:46 <Seth_Hikaru> cd-rw
03:24:47 <Gizmokid2005> not too mention sd cards, etc etc
03:24:51 <Gizmokid2005> compact flash
03:24:56 <Gizmokid2005> ipods
03:25:01 <Bensawsome> anything that can store data
03:25:03 <Seth_Hikaru> that falls under the catagory of memory cards
03:25:12 <Seth_Hikaru> ipod falls under removable hard drive
03:25:19 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: most people don't know that
03:25:23 <Seth_Hikaru> well
03:25:36 <Seth_Hikaru> if they didnt know that
03:25:50 <Seth_Hikaru> then they probably wouldnt be in this chat room
03:26:15 <sar3th> Seth_Hikaru: people come here to ask for help and get answers
03:26:20 <pa_1770> so running from a cd or dvd is fine
03:26:24 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: actually, no, it's not true
03:26:26 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1770: yep.
03:26:26 <pa_1770> i sure did
03:26:42 <Gizmokid2005> there are instructions for running them from a cd/dvd on the site
03:26:49 <Gizmokid2005> on how to get the settings setup before burning the disc, etc
03:27:34 <pa_1770> where at i looked and didnt see those mentioned so i came here
03:27:38 <Seth_Hikaru> floppy disk, cd, flash drive, internal hard drive, raid, scsi drive, internal harddrive, solid states drive, memory card, ide hard drive, dvd, blueray disc, external hard drive, cd-rw, dvd-rw, ipod, compact flash, transflash, micro sd, mini sd, all other types of flash cards
03:27:46 <Seth_Hikaru> there more updates
03:28:25 <pa_1770> im downlaoding the setup file to dvd and will try running from there
03:28:28 <Seth_Hikaru> zif drive, zip disk,
03:28:39 <Seth_Hikaru> those 100mb fat ones
03:28:46 <Seth_Hikaru> i think you can still buy those
03:29:24 <Bensawsome> pa_1770 dont downmload it directly to the dvd
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03:29:29 <Seth_Hikaru> yeah
03:29:32 <kai_62656> yes
03:29:33 <Seth_Hikaru> install it to the dvd
03:29:33 <Bensawsome> download the installer to your hard drive
03:29:38 <Bensawsome> then install to your dvd
03:29:44 <Bensawsome> then you need to burn the dvd
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03:29:53 <Bensawsome> errr
03:29:54 <Bensawsome> \
03:29:54 <Seth_Hikaru> pa_1770
03:30:03 <pa_1770> still here
03:30:05 <Seth_Hikaru> why would you want to use a dvd anyway?
03:30:08 <Bensawsome> change the apps settings to ur liking before you burn the dvd
03:30:17 <Seth_Hikaru> buy a flash drive there insanely cheap
03:30:21 <Bensawsome> cause you cant change anything on the app after
03:30:37 <Bensawsome> some are even cheaper then a pack of dvds these days XD
03:30:56 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: stop, Bensawsome you too
03:30:57 <pa_1770> yea im seeing if it can be done i have a small flash drive and am looking at alternatives
03:31:07 <Gizmokid2005> there could be many reasons to use a DVD instead of a USB drive
03:31:11 <Gizmokid2005> such as disabled USB ports
03:31:12 <Seth_Hikaru> 4 gigs cost what 1 gig use to cost 3 years ago
03:31:12 <Gizmokid2005> etc
03:31:19 <Seth_Hikaru> Gizmokid2005:
03:31:22 <pa_1770> yea its 4 gigs
03:31:32 <Seth_Hikaru> I have never in my life seen a disabled usb port
03:31:34 <pa_1770> besides its portable right?
03:31:39 <Seth_Hikaru> yeah
03:31:43 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: schools and a lot of jobs, libraries too
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03:32:06 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark
03:32:08 <pa_1770> i could distribute easier over a network with it on dvd or cd
03:32:22 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1770: true, or you could host it from a central shared directory
03:32:29 <pa_1770> yep
03:32:40 <Seth_Hikaru> Gizmokid2005: Have you personally been to a school or librarry that has disabled usb ports
03:32:45 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: yes.
03:32:52 <Gizmokid2005> a few actually
03:32:58 <TimClark> Seth_Hikaru: and Bensawsome , i think you should let Gizmokid2005 finish up with pa_1770
03:32:59 <Seth_Hikaru> job, school, library?
03:33:01 <pa_1770> some older comps dont have them
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03:33:12 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: all three, though the job wasn't mine.
03:33:17 <Seth_Hikaru> hmm
03:33:19 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1770: does that answer your question though?
03:33:28 <Seth_Hikaru> Then those admins have serious problems.
03:33:33 <Seth_Hikaru> yes though
03:33:42 <pa_1770> i think he said i couldnt configure the apps the way i wanted if i ran from dvd
03:33:49 <Seth_Hikaru> no
03:33:51 <Seth_Hikaru> but
03:33:56 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1770: right
03:34:02 <Seth_Hikaru> configure the files on your computer first
03:34:04 <TimClark> Seth_Hikaru: let Gizmokid2005 finish up please
03:34:10 <Gizmokid2005> you can install them to the hard drive, configure them. then move the files to the DVD and burn them.
03:34:16 <Gizmokid2005> then your configurations are set. :)
03:34:38 <pa_1770> ok so if i run it my main computer first?
03:34:52 <pa_1770> then copy all files to the dvd?
03:34:55 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1770: yep
03:34:59 <Gizmokid2005> after you configure it the way you want
03:35:00 <Gizmokid2005> exactly
03:35:13 <pa_1770> then uninstall fromthe main computer?
03:35:24 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1770: after you burn them, yep
03:35:30 <Gizmokid2005> just delete the folder and it's all gone :)
03:35:38 <Gizmokid2005> there's no uninstallers for our apps.
03:36:51 <pa_1770> ok well its 90 presnet finished it will be in a folder after i open I should configure settings then close out everything and burn folder to the dvd?
03:37:02 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1770: you got it :D
03:37:11 <pa_1770> ok wish me luck!!
03:37:19 <Gizmokid2005> Luck! :)
03:37:19 <pa_1770> thanks again
03:37:30 <Gizmokid2005> anytime pa_1770, take care
03:40:34 <Seth_Hikaru> YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
03:40:40 <Seth_Hikaru> MY FIRST PORTABLE APP!
03:41:07 <TimClark> don't yell Seth_Hikaru
03:41:19 <Seth_Hikaru> Ok fine ruin my fun.
03:41:21 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: calm down
03:41:29 <Gizmokid2005> There are far better ways to "ruin your fun"
03:41:30 <TimClark> we know you are excited, but you need to stay cool
03:41:31 <Seth_Hikaru> To late for that.
03:41:35 <Gizmokid2005> keep it to a dull-roar.
03:41:42 <Seth_Hikaru> *yay*
03:41:50 <Seth_Hikaru> hows that
03:41:52 <Gizmokid2005> much better
03:41:53 <Gizmokid2005> thank you
03:42:09 <Seth_Hikaru> so now im assuming the next step is testing right?
03:42:32 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: yes.
03:43:02 <Seth_Hikaru> failure
03:43:09 <Seth_Hikaru> i get a windows error
03:43:22 <Gizmokid2005> now the fun part Seth_Hikaru, debugging! :)
03:43:41 <Seth_Hikaru> yes
03:44:39 <Seth_Hikaru> The instruction at "0x004d47c6" referenced memory at "0x00000034". The memory could not be "read".
03:44:53 <Seth_Hikaru> i cant debug on this computer
03:45:05 <Gizmokid2005> yep, good ol' windows errors Seth_Hikaru. No real /easy/ way to deal with them
03:45:16 <Seth_Hikaru> well curiousity
03:45:32 <Seth_Hikaru> i just copied the main executable to the main folder
03:45:38 <Seth_Hikaru> i think thats the problem
03:45:48 <Seth_Hikaru> cause it cant find the required files
03:45:48 <Gizmokid2005> sounds like a launcher issue Seth_Hikaru
03:45:59 <Seth_Hikaru> im going to agree with that
03:46:06 <Seth_Hikaru> how do you make the launcher?
03:46:21 <Gizmokid2005> You've got to remember, you need to conform to all the standards on the development page
03:46:37 <Seth_Hikaru> yes
03:46:38 <Gizmokid2005> if you haven't started a launcher, you need to do that first.
03:46:38 <Seth_Hikaru> i did
03:46:42 <Seth_Hikaru> how?
03:46:55 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
03:48:54 <Seth_Hikaru> yeah
03:48:56 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: that's the most important part of a portable app, the launcher.
03:49:03 <Seth_Hikaru> thats where i cant figure out
03:49:16 <Seth_Hikaru> i have absolutely no idea how to do it
03:49:20 <Gizmokid2005> we can't help you that much here, all the information you'd need, is in that link.
03:49:23 <Seth_Hikaru> it doesn't use registry
03:49:28 <Gizmokid2005> you've got to get the main grasp of things.
03:49:31 <Seth_Hikaru> my program
03:49:49 <Seth_Hikaru> this is a school computer
03:49:54 <Seth_Hikaru> no registry changes allowed
03:50:00 <Seth_Hikaru> so i would know
03:50:12 <Gizmokid2005> not really
03:50:16 <Seth_Hikaru> it wouldn't let me have installed the program in the first place
03:50:20 <Seth_Hikaru> yes
03:50:23 <Gizmokid2005> because some apps will not create them if it can't, but it will if the access is there
03:50:33 <Seth_Hikaru> no access
03:50:36 <Gizmokid2005> you have to test all cases, admin rights, non-admin rights
03:50:45 <Seth_Hikaru> very little rights here
03:50:47 <Gizmokid2005> and you have to create a launcher that will take care of all that
03:50:50 <Gizmokid2005> my point is
03:50:54 <Seth_Hikaru> i know my school computer top to bottom
03:50:55 <Gizmokid2005> you need to test for those people who WILL have full rights.
03:51:02 <Gizmokid2005> not just your particular scenario.
03:51:05 <Seth_Hikaru> that doesn't matter
03:51:15 <Seth_Hikaru> my app wouldn't have been able to run
03:51:16 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: it does if you are trying to make an official app.
03:51:34 <Seth_Hikaru> cause it would have denied registry access and then closed the program
03:51:43 <Seth_Hikaru> its uses an .ini file
03:51:53 <TimClark> it happened once that john had to do a rev cause the app was fine with no rights, ran great, but left things behind when admin
03:52:01 <TimClark> it's rare, but it happens
03:52:05 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: unless you wrote the app, you don't know for sure
03:52:14 <Gizmokid2005> if you haven't tested it outside your scenario, you don't know for sure.
03:52:15 <Gizmokid2005> period.
03:53:16 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: if you are doing this just for yourself, then it doesn't /really/ matter
03:53:34 <Gizmokid2005> but if you ever want to have the ability to make the app official, you have to follow the procedures and make sure every scenario is covered
03:54:03 <TimClark> Otherwise you wind up with Dev Test #87 :/
03:54:16 <Gizmokid2005> and still an app that doesn't pass :)
03:54:36 <Gizmokid2005> Seth_Hikaru: for ideas on what you need to do, follow that link, and check other launchers, etc.
03:54:42 <powerjuce|away> gnight all
03:54:44 <Gizmokid2005> there's nothing that we can do to help you with that
03:54:49 <TimClark> when alot of things could have been handeled by the creator in the first stages with good testing, and then folks get annoyed and lose interest
03:54:49 <Gizmokid2005> night powerjuce|away
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03:55:01 <Gizmokid2005> exactly as TimClark said Seth_Hikaru
03:55:10 <Gizmokid2005> on that note, it's time for me to head off also, it's late.
03:55:14 <Gizmokid2005> take it easy everyone
03:55:16 <TimClark> me too
03:55:18 <TimClark> bye
03:55:23 <Chazz> night Gizmokid2005
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03:56:37 <pa_1770> help
03:56:51 <sar3th> hey pa_1770, what's wrong?
03:56:56 <Chazz> pa_1770, how can we help you
03:56:57 <Chazz> ?
03:56:58 <pa_1770> files are copied and the istalletion runs fine
03:57:36 <pa_1770> now how od i transfer do dvd
03:58:23 <Chazz> pa_1770, right-click on the folder, hit copy, then in explorer, go to the dvd, right-click, and hit paste
03:59:26 <pa_1770> there are three folders and a text doc
04:00:22 <pa_1770> one labled documents one labled portable apps
04:00:37 <pa_1770> the others a shortcut or something
04:01:40 <pa_1770> so what do you think
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04:04:47 <pa_1770> i encounters a problem when copying the documents folder
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07:26:36 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau, you devil (using it with its real meaning, false accuser/slanderer)! Drupal /does/ support uploading any file you care, at any size limit you feel like, in its core, and the Image module family allows image filtering, scaling, etc. John has made a choice (and in my opinion, a good choice) not to allow it at PortableApps.com. For starters, bandwidth, and secondly, it can't be secure
07:26:38 <ChrisMorgan> or neat
07:27:08 <ChrisMorgan> Do not say Drupal can't do something until you check... much better than WordPress ;-)
07:28:04 <ChrisMorgan> Well, I finally got round to checking out what the OpenSonic/Smart Pacman launchers were... it was even as I suspected. Secret Maryo Chronicles, no modifications other than the name, version and executable details defines
07:29:15 <ChrisMorgan> And the splash screen issue... he had called it "Smart Pacman Portable.jpg" instead of SmartPacmanPortable.jpg... *sigh*
07:29:32 * ChrisMorgan wonders whether it wouldn't be a good idea to always check the launcher before running an application...
07:30:32 <ChrisMorgan> I became highly suspicious of something of the sort when he posted the code... Travis's copyright, and very complex code to do with screen resolutions, on someone that didn't appear to understand any NSIS code.
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13:11:59 <sar3th> hey SteveLamerton
13:12:19 <SteveLamerton> Hey sar3th, all
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14:58:35 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau, you about?
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15:45:33 <ZachThibeau> sorry SteveLamerton I'm now about :P
15:45:45 <SteveLamerton> Ah ha! He is alive ;)
15:46:01 <ZachThibeau> my znc doesn't change my nick for me anymore :(
15:46:10 <ZachThibeau> anyways how can I help you
15:46:43 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh that explains it, anyway just wondered if you would be interested of seeing a screenshot of some new Toucan stuff that I am working on?
15:47:01 <ZachThibeau> sure :D
15:47:13 <SteveLamerton> You can grab it here: http://drop.io/toucan3
15:47:45 <ZachThibeau> nice
15:47:52 <ZachThibeau> looking very nice :D
15:48:46 <SteveLamerton> Embedded Lua in Toucan :D
15:49:17 <ZachThibeau> I need to reset my compiler up since I installed my new motherboard :)
15:49:19 <MaienM> lua huh? nice choice ;)
15:51:25 <SteveLamerton> I thought so, it only adds about 150kB of overhead by my reckoning, plus another 150kB for the styled text control in the pic
15:52:56 <SteveLamerton> It is just the sort of thing that Lua is designed for :)
15:53:48 <ZachThibeau> I need to get started on some more ideas for mp3k
15:54:54 <SteveLamerton> MaienM, you use lua yourself?
15:55:12 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau, how is it going?
15:55:37 <ZachThibeau> well my original ideas and source code went down with my dead laptop
15:55:47 <SteveLamerton> Ouch :(
15:55:50 <ZachThibeau> yeah
15:55:51 <MaienM> haven't used it in a while, but I know its well suited to be integrated into something like you did ;)
15:56:28 <ZachThibeau> but either way Steve I got the experience down in my pocket now :) and I can get the same functionality in less than 30 minutes again :)
15:56:48 <ZachThibeau> Form Designers FTW :P
15:56:52 <SteveLamerton> :D
15:56:57 <ZachThibeau> saves me that much time
15:57:53 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I create new forms for Toucan in a designer and then copy the useful bits of code across, far easier
15:58:27 <ZachThibeau> last time I coded on mp3k though I had very basic playlist support
15:58:37 <ZachThibeau> it showed the file and that was it xD
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16:28:07 <SteveLamerton> Heya OliverK
16:28:24 <OliverK> heya SteveLamerton
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17:31:49 <Staton> Can I get some help determing if a "portable" software is actually, truly portable?
17:32:02 <sar3th> sure Staton
17:33:05 <Staton> Was browsing the internet and found a "portable Hamachi"
17:33:37 <OliverK> use regshot
17:33:39 <Staton> Since I already have the normal Hamachi installed, I can't tell if this portable version leaves traces or not.
17:35:39 <Staton> Would regshot tell me if a program created registry keys, tried to, or accessed registry keys?
17:36:10 <sar3th> it tells you if the program created registry keys
17:36:40 <sar3th> however, i strongly doubt that hamachi can be portable, as it uses a driver for a virtual network adapter
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17:37:44 <Staton> Supposedly, the portable Hamachi has the driver with it...
17:38:15 <Staton> which resides on your flash drive as well
17:41:53 <Staton> I'll see if regshot will help, but it may not since I already possess Hamachi registry entries.
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18:02:47 <Brax> Help Please
18:03:23 <Gizmokid2005> ask away Brax
18:03:34 <Brax> When running Mozilla Firefox from my fash drive it is running very slowly. I installed portable apps on another flash drive
18:03:53 <Brax> it game the option for slower drives and I chose that it it was running much faster
18:04:29 <Brax> do you know how I can find that setting and change it after I have been using firefox
18:05:17 <Gizmokid2005> Brax: FirefoxPortable is optimized to run from flash drivers
18:05:20 <Gizmokid2005> *drives
18:05:31 <Gizmokid2005> the only way to really speed it up is get a faster drive really
18:05:49 <Gizmokid2005> there are other variables such as the USB port/sdrivers on the computer, but the slowness is typically caused by a slow flash drive
18:05:56 <kai_62656> Gizmokid2005: there was an option on the first run to disable session store for slower flash drives
18:06:01 <Brax> I think my drive is fast enough, its the problem with my work comuutre
18:06:14 <Gizmokid2005> Brax: if that's the case, no, there's nothing you can do :(
18:06:35 <Brax> is it possible to find that option to disable seesion store
18:06:44 <kai_62656> hmm
18:06:47 <Brax> after the initial run?
18:06:56 <kai_62656> let me check one min
18:09:23 <kai_62656> hmm, maybe its just the first run because I dont see it
18:10:22 <Brax> do you know if I removed mozilla and redownloaded it would it treat it like a first run?
18:10:29 <kai_62656> hmm
18:10:40 <kai_62656> I dont know
18:10:49 <Gizmokid2005> Brax: no
18:10:50 <Brax> ok - thanks
18:10:53 <Gizmokid2005> if you leave your data folder
18:10:54 <Gizmokid2005> it will not
18:11:45 <Brax> I thought when I clicked the choice is mentioned a setting that I could go to later to change it but I wasn't paying enough attention to remember what it said
18:12:12 <kai_62656> oh
18:12:21 <sar3th> hang on a second
18:12:43 <kai_62656> Brax: you could reinstall it but that would remove all your bookmarks, settings aka
18:12:50 <sar3th> erm
18:12:51 <kai_62656> which I dont think you want to do...
18:12:57 <sar3th> EnableSessionStore=true
18:13:06 <kai_62656> oh!
18:13:08 <sar3th> isn't that the option we are looking for?
18:13:15 <kai_62656> the custom ini?
18:13:21 <Brax> probably
18:13:25 <sar3th> FirefoxPortableSettings.ini
18:13:30 <kai_62656> yea
18:13:30 <sar3th> in Data\settings
18:13:45 <sar3th> you can try changing the setting to 'false'
18:13:48 <sar3th> that might help
18:14:00 <sar3th> don't forget to backup your copy of FFP before trying that!
18:14:00 <Brax> let me see if I can find it - it might take me a minute
18:14:05 <sar3th> sure, no problem
18:14:53 <kai_62656> sar3th: does firefox need the ini to br moved to the main folder or no? I remember some of the old ones had to be moved
18:14:58 <kai_62656> *be
18:15:14 <sar3th> dunno, will test it now, hang on
18:15:40 <OliverK> yes
18:15:48 <kai_62656> oh wait, this isnt the Other/Source ini...
18:15:51 <OliverK> why wouldn't it?
18:15:52 <kai_62656> its in the Data\settings
18:16:07 <OliverK> don't move that then
18:16:34 <sar3th> yeah, it seems to work when changing Data\settings\FirefoxPortableSettings.ini
18:16:34 <kai_62656> yeah its FirefoxPortableSettings.ini the one in the src folder is FirefoxPortable.ini
18:16:54 <kai_62656> oops my keyboard... grrrr
18:17:04 <sar3th> not sure though
18:18:01 <kai_62656> Brax: it should be in PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\Data\settings
18:18:19 <Brax> please excuse my ignorance
18:18:27 <kai_62656> yes?
18:18:31 <Brax> will that look like a text file
18:18:35 <kai_62656> yes it would
18:19:32 <Brax> do I need to type something in there to change the setting
18:19:44 <kai_62656> it the file in a folder called settings?
18:19:50 <kai_62656> *is it
18:20:05 <Brax> yes
18:20:08 <kai_62656> ok
18:20:11 <kai_62656> just...
18:20:23 <kai_62656> change this
18:20:26 <kai_62656> EnableSessionStore=true
18:20:28 <kai_62656> to this
18:20:29 <kai_62656> EnableSessionStore=false
18:20:48 <Brax> I don't see anything that says enablesessionstore=true
18:21:29 <kai_62656> how many lines are there?
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18:24:03 <OliverK> oop?
18:24:31 <kai_62656> heh
18:28:39 <sar3th> wtf ?
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18:33:42 <brax> sorry I left, it wasn't on purpose
18:40:43 <sar3th> brax: you said there is no line EnableSessionStore=true in your FirefoxPortableSettings.ini
18:41:59 <brax> correct
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18:42:40 <sar3th> can you poste the contents of the file here: http://portableapps.pastebin.com
18:42:49 <sar3th> *post, not poste
18:43:40 <OliverK> brax: add the line
18:44:10 <brax> posted it
18:44:35 <brax> oliverk - thanks
18:44:57 <sar3th> huh strange
18:44:59 <brax> then do I need to restart the browser
18:45:20 <sar3th> well, you need to close it before changing the file
18:45:37 <sar3th> that means, close firefox, look at the ini again and then open firefox
18:45:47 <brax> ok - thanks so much for all the help
18:45:53 <brax> I'll close it all and try
18:46:09 <brax> then I'll let you know if it works
18:46:13 <brax> thanks again
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22:16:35 <toymachine2009> hey
22:16:47 <Chazz> hello toymachine2009
22:16:53 <toymachine2009> quick question
22:17:01 <toymachine2009> im new to this portable apps and its pretty cool
22:17:36 <toymachine2009> I see the option to install new apps
22:17:46 <toymachine2009> but i dont see the option to uninstall an app
22:17:55 <xangua> just delete the app folder
22:18:05 <toymachine2009> o and the button will be gone from the menu as well?
22:18:13 <xangua> yes
22:18:17 <toymachine2009> o sweet
22:18:26 <Chazz> ya
22:18:53 <toymachine2009> okay and have u ever used DemocraKey
22:19:31 <Chazz> nope
22:19:51 <toymachine2009> hmm cause it seems they dont make their program stand alone
22:19:59 <toymachine2009> like when u download it.. it has its own portable apps thing
22:20:10 <toymachine2009> i guess if i can take the folder out and put it in mine that could work?
22:20:58 <toymachine2009> I was reading about it here
22:20:58 <toymachine2009> http://lifehacker.com/photogallery/LH-Top-10|-USB-Thumb-Drive-Tricks/1776205
22:22:52 <gluxon> toymachine2009: Um... what does it do?
22:23:08 <gluxon> Ah..
22:23:15 <gluxon> okay.... um...
22:23:33 <toymachine2009> runs portable applications and stores your data on your USB drive without leaving a trace on the host PC. Extra privacy tools include Torpark for anonymous browsing.
22:23:37 <gluxon> I have a solution for both your question, your previous one, and the current one.
22:23:51 <Chazz> sounds more like JAM than anything else...
22:24:03 <toymachine2009> i like the fact it has anonymous browsing
22:24:15 <toymachine2009> and i was wondering if i can get that on mine
22:24:29 <gluxon> toymachine2009: Why don't you just configure firefox with proxy?
22:24:48 <Chazz> toymachine2009, try downloading it and adding it...
22:24:53 <gluxon> Okay..
22:24:57 <toymachine2009> i guess but how cool would it be to be portable..
22:25:04 <gluxon> You must be running the current 1.5.2 menu.
22:25:07 <toymachine2009> just pop it in any computer and ur hidden on the web
22:25:19 <gluxon> There is a beta (testing release) of the Platform.
22:25:21 <gluxon> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/PortableApps.com%20Platform%20Test/PortableApps.com%20Platform%202.0%20Beta%203/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_2.0_Beta_3.exe/download
22:25:28 <gluxon> Click on the link above to install.
22:25:33 <Chazz> gluxon, platform isnt the problem
22:25:40 <gluxon> It does not have many bugs..
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22:26:00 <gluxon> Chazz: Yeah, but it has a uninstall feature which he probably would enjoy.
22:26:04 <toymachine2009> here is my problem with that link u just gave me
22:26:06 <gluxon> So he doesn't have to do it manually.
22:26:08 <gluxon> ?
22:26:20 <toymachine2009> idk how to say it but it downloads the whole thing again
22:26:25 <toymachine2009> the whole portableapps
22:26:29 <gluxon> oh.
22:26:35 <toymachine2009> so i would have two portable apps on my flash drive
22:26:35 <gluxon> Just install right over the current copy.
22:26:39 <gluxon> no you will not.
22:26:40 <toymachine2009> i just want the APP itself
22:26:49 <gluxon> This is just an upgrade.
22:26:51 <Chazz> gluxon, he doesn't /want/ PAP
22:26:55 <gluxon> ?
22:27:00 <toymachine2009> i just want the app
22:27:01 <Chazz> gluxon, -ot
22:27:04 <toymachine2009> on my current
22:27:13 <gluxon> ...
22:27:18 <gluxon> You don't want a new better menu? :D
22:27:25 <toymachine2009> its the same
22:27:28 <toymachine2009> from what i saw?
22:27:34 <gluxon> .. no it isn't.
22:27:56 <gluxon> This will supports uninstalling directly from the menu, automatic start up of apps, favorites... and more.
22:27:57 <toymachine2009> okay so if i get this upgraded one then.. how do i transfer all my programs i have on this old one to it?
22:28:03 <gluxon> Just install.
22:28:07 <toymachine2009> each one?
22:28:08 <gluxon> it'll take less than 5 secs.
22:28:19 <gluxon> Install it right over the previous.
22:28:20 <toymachine2009> okay i guess
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22:28:41 <gluxon> The installer made by the founder of PortableApps.com is designed to know what files to update delete and keep.
22:28:52 <gluxon> So it is just a simple upgrade.
22:28:57 <toymachine2009> alright im giving it a shot
22:29:00 <gluxon> thanks.
22:29:15 <gluxon> I'll dl that app you linked so I can figure out how to install it first.
22:30:02 <toymachine2009> okay well my new copy is installing right now
22:30:03 <gluxon> ... it's 65 MB.
22:30:11 <gluxon> toymachine2009: Thanks.
22:30:11 <toymachine2009> so?
22:30:18 <gluxon> Tell me when it's finished.
22:30:21 <toymachine2009> okay
22:30:30 <gluxon> ... it should be only about 5 minutes.
22:30:36 <gluxon> ... sorry.. 5 seconds.
22:30:38 <toymachine2009> it was less
22:30:39 <toymachine2009> its done
22:30:41 <gluxon> k.
22:30:45 <gluxon> Now launch it.
22:30:52 <gluxon> You'll notice a lot of improvements.
22:30:57 <gluxon> And better porformance.
22:30:57 <toymachine2009> it has themes
22:31:00 <gluxon> I know :D
22:31:04 <gluxon> And a loading bar.
22:31:16 <Chazz> gluxon, 1.5 had a bar
22:31:17 <toymachine2009> it didnt come with that app tho lol
22:31:26 <gluxon> 1.5 did not.
22:31:35 <gluxon> You're refering to 1.6, which was bumped to 2.0
22:31:43 <Chazz> gluxon, ya, i think so.
22:31:53 <toymachine2009> wher can i see wht version i have now?
22:32:00 <gluxon> toymachine2009: ...
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22:32:05 <Chazz> toymachine2009, help > about
22:32:16 <toymachine2009> there is no about
22:32:18 <toymachine2009> there is update.
22:32:27 <gluxon> ?
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22:32:48 <toymachine2009> i wanna be able to see what version i got
22:32:51 <gluxon> On the menu.. it says "Help" click on that... then "About PortableApps.com Platform"
22:32:58 <gluxon> It'll say what version.
22:33:03 <toymachine2009> go tit
22:33:07 <toymachine2009> it
22:33:23 <toymachine2009> ok cool i got 2.0 beta 3
22:33:32 <toymachine2009> now back to trying to get that app lol
22:33:37 <gluxon> Okay.
22:33:39 <gluxon> um...
22:33:41 <gluxon> I just dled it.
22:33:45 <gluxon> But I don't know where :D
22:33:53 <toymachine2009> click open containing folder
22:34:18 <toymachine2009> hey you guys know the trick how to speed up windows with a flash drive right?
22:34:18 <gluxon> Yeah... I cleared the dl list :D
22:34:19 <gluxon> :(
22:34:30 <toymachine2009> windows vista
22:34:38 <gluxon> toymachine2009: No, I do not :( how?
22:34:47 <Chazz> toymachine2009, what app was it you wanted?
22:35:05 <gluxon> Chazz: Scroll up.
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22:35:26 <toymachine2009> democraKey
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22:35:31 <gluxon> BTW, toymachine2009: This is the release notes to your new version of the menu. --> http://portableapps.com/node/20013
22:36:04 <Chazz> toymachine2009, have you seen http://www.democrakey.com/
22:36:05 <Chazz> ?
22:36:27 <toymachine2009> yea
22:36:29 <toymachine2009> it says to ipod
22:36:41 <toymachine2009> or it downloads a whole another portableapp thingy
22:36:55 <toymachine2009> i want the app alone so i can install it
22:36:57 <gluxon> ...
22:37:05 <gluxon> toymachine2009: I think your confused her.
22:37:07 <gluxon> *here.
22:37:14 <gluxon> It's not another PortableApps thingy.
22:37:16 <gluxon> It's an installer.
22:37:19 <Chazz> gluxon, it is
22:37:20 <toymachine2009> yea
22:37:22 <gluxon> For the stand alone app.
22:37:26 <toymachine2009> yea!
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22:37:30 <toymachine2009> i want just the app
22:37:32 <toymachine2009> not another installer
22:37:34 <gluxon> Exactly.
22:37:35 <gluxon> ..
22:37:44 <gluxon> toymachine2009: The installer updates and patches files.
22:37:48 <gluxon> This is a new install.
22:37:51 <gluxon> of the app.
22:37:55 <gluxon> So open up the installer.
22:38:10 <toymachine2009> no it installs
22:38:14 <toymachine2009> the whole thing again!
22:38:16 <gluxon> ...
22:38:18 <toymachine2009> last time i tried to download it
22:38:20 <gluxon> wait..
22:38:22 <gluxon> Let me see.
22:38:26 <toymachine2009> it installed the whole portable app thingy again
22:38:40 <gluxon> .... okay.. trust me here and please just install it.
22:38:44 <gluxon> :)
22:38:51 <toymachine2009> okay
22:38:53 <gluxon> You'll see what I mean when it's finished.
22:38:54 <toymachine2009> link me to what ur seeing?
22:39:25 <gluxon> ?
22:39:33 <toymachine2009> u gotta a link?
22:39:35 <toymachine2009> to the download
22:39:50 <gluxon> wait...
22:40:14 <gluxon> Ahh... I see.
22:40:15 <gluxon> Okay...
22:40:22 <gluxon> Here's how you do an install for this thing.
22:40:32 <toymachine2009> okay.
22:40:42 <gluxon> download the file here --> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/democrakey/democrakey/V2.0/DemocraKey.exe?use_mirror=voxel
22:40:59 <toymachine2009> the .exe?
22:41:17 <gluxon> Yes... it's an exe.
22:41:21 <gluxon> But it's not an installer..
22:41:29 <gluxon> though when you open it it might look like an installer.
22:41:31 <gluxon> It's not.
22:41:34 <gluxon> Just an extracter...
22:41:43 <toymachine2009> hmm let me see
22:41:52 <toymachine2009> did u do it urself?
22:42:23 <gluxon> Yeah.
22:42:25 <gluxon> I just did it.
22:42:29 <toymachine2009> and it worked?
22:42:35 <gluxon> Yeah.
22:42:43 <toymachine2009> okay well its downloading now
22:42:45 <toymachine2009> its big 65mb?
22:42:47 <toymachine2009> for an app?
22:42:48 <gluxon> You were right... it was a whole nother install.
22:42:50 <gluxon> Yeah..
22:42:57 <toymachine2009> seee
22:42:57 <gluxon> I was surprised too.
22:43:05 <gluxon> That's why my dl took so long.
22:43:10 <toymachine2009> SEEEE
22:43:11 <gluxon> Plus the time to took to find it.
22:43:12 <toymachine2009> like i said
22:43:20 <toymachine2009> so how can i just get the app?
22:43:21 <toymachine2009> itself
22:43:24 <toymachine2009> not a 65mb file
22:43:37 <gluxon> You have to extract the package to the desktop.
22:43:44 <gluxon> Then I'll show you how I did it from there :D
22:43:52 <toymachine2009> okay well its 15% done for me lol
22:43:56 <gluxon> :D
22:43:58 <gluxon> brb...
22:44:01 <gluxon> sorry.
22:44:02 <toymachine2009> okay
22:44:05 <toymachine2009> no worries
22:44:06 <gluxon> I have to go for like 5 minds.
22:44:19 <toymachine2009> okay
22:44:36 <toymachine2009> these flash drives are crazy.. can do so much i just found out!
22:47:45 <toymachine2009> brb
22:48:01 <gluxon> I'm sorry.
22:48:54 <gluxon> toymachine2009: You don't know the half of it :)
22:49:11 <gluxon> I'll leave these directions for you when you get back.
22:50:22 <gluxon> And the app itself is not 65 MB... it's with all those extra files in the installer/extractor.
22:51:26 <gluxon> Okay... after you extract to the desktop (C:\Users\USERNAME\Desktop or C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Desktop" a folder callded "DemocraKey" should have been created.
22:51:29 <gluxon> Delete it.
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22:52:14 <gluxon> Then also delete "Autorun.inf", "Documents", and "StartPortableApps.exe"
22:52:25 <gluxon> All those files are unneeded extras.
22:52:46 <gluxon> Crack open the PortableApps folder that was created on the Desktop.
22:53:23 <gluxon> And copy the folder "DemocraPark" to your own personal PortableApps folder on your flash drive ([X]:\PortableApps"
22:53:34 <gluxon> Refresh your brand new menu and you're all set.
22:53:50 <gluxon> You can delete the PortableApps folder on the Desktop after that :)
22:55:02 <gluxon> whoops... sorry, the folder in the Desktop\PortableApps is DemocraPark... no DemocraKey :( sorry.
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23:31:42 <toymachine2009> gwyt
23:31:43 <toymachine2009> hey
23:31:45 <toymachine2009> gluxon
23:32:35 <toymachine2009> u still alive gluxon
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23:36:20 <gluxon> bye.
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23:47:23 * PAP needs help
23:47:27 <PAP> hello
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23:47:43 <sar3th> hi PAP
23:47:43 <Chazz> Hello PAP
23:47:53 <toymachine2009> hi pap
23:48:04 <PAP> what are the differences between version 1.5.2 of the portable apps platform
23:48:11 <PAP> and the current version?
23:48:22 <Chazz> 1.5.2 IS the currant version
23:48:36 <toymachine2009> i think maybe he means the beta 2.0?
23:48:45 <PAP> are you sure? the main page of the site says 2 beta
23:48:54 <toymachine2009> ya thats a beta...
23:48:59 <Chazz> PAP, ya, thats the beta.
23:49:22 <PAP> are there any important differences?
23:49:47 <Chazz> PAP, it's all on the page about it.
23:49:54 <Chazz> http://portableapps.com/node/20013
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