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00:31:41 * NSIS needs help
00:31:52 <NSIS> I need help with NSIS portable
00:32:12 <NSIS> you say it is what you use to create the portable apps installers
00:32:54 <Chazz> it's what we use to compile the launchers
00:33:22 <NSIS> I am trying to create an installer based on zip file, but what character do I use when I don't know what the drive letter will be?
00:35:10 <sar3th> NSIS: so, you want to create your own portableapp, am i right?
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00:35:47 <NSIS> pretty much, yes, but right now im getting used to the apps required to make one
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00:38:03 <sar3th> well, first of all you need the portableapps installer from here: http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_installer
00:38:24 <sar3th> for information on the format your files need to be in, please read http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format
00:38:27 <NSIS> It doesnt like my ap
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00:38:31 <NSIS> *app
00:38:45 <sar3th> then probably your folder structure is wrong
00:39:02 <sar3th> you need a folder called App, one named Data and one called Other
00:39:05 <sar3th> http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format
00:39:08 <NSIS> I'm not a tech expert
00:39:12 <sar3th> everything is explained there
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00:39:29 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
00:39:34 <sar3th> yeah, it's a pretty good explanation which is understandable for non-tech-experts ;)
00:41:16 <NSIS> ok, lets say I am creating the installer out of virtuawin, that I already have
00:41:29 <Whibo> mmmmm
00:41:32 <NSIS> i put the neccessary files in a zip archive
00:41:32 <Whibo> pie
00:41:56 <NSIS> I am using NSIS to create an installer for a friend
00:42:13 <sar3th> you don't need to put the files in a zip
00:42:28 <NSIS> for the easy way in NSIS you do
00:42:32 <sar3th> just put them in the right directory structure and add a launcher and you should be good
00:42:51 <NSIS> dude, I'm 13
00:42:53 <sar3th> ah okay, so you don't want a portableapp, you want an installer, am i right NSIS ?
00:43:16 <NSIS> yes, right now that is what I am looking for
00:43:37 <sar3th> okay
00:43:50 <sar3th> wait a second, i have to check something..
00:44:12 <NSIS> ok
00:46:02
00:46:05 <sar3th> *portable?
00:46:10 <NSIS> yes
00:46:33 <sar3th> then you clicked on "installer based on zip file", right?
00:47:24 <NSIS> yes
00:48:17 <NSIS> under default folder setting, is there a special charcter or phrase I can put when I dont know the drive letter?
00:48:33 <sar3th> depends on where you want to install it
00:48:44 <sar3th> where do you want to install it by default?
00:48:52 <NSIS> my friends portable apps drive
00:49:22 <NSIS> I cannot create a true portable app installer because of the structure
00:49:32 <sar3th> try ?:\PortableApps\VirtuaWinPortable
00:50:01 <sar3th> he has to change the path manually then
00:50:40 <NSIS> it did not work, the default install directory came up excactly as I typed
00:50:53 <NSIS> it did not know to look for a PA flder
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02:32:13 <sar3th> >_>
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02:38:49 <Chazz> sar3th, ?
02:39:48 <Gizmokid2005> Chazz: you and powerjuce's quit/parts
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02:39:57 <Chazz> Gizmokid2005, oh
02:40:12 <Chazz> how many quit/joins did i have?
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02:41:11 <Gizmokid2005> looks like two by you
02:41:17 <Chazz> ok
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05:23:27 <toymachine2009> hey
05:23:56 <Chazz> ello
05:24:32 <toymachine2009> whats new
05:24:58 <toymachine2009> you know i never new you could do so much with a flash drive its pretty cooll i been playing with it all day trying new things..
05:25:14 <toymachine2009> like you can make windows vista run faster with a flash drive
05:27:20 <toymachine2009> anyone no any other sweet tricks u can do with a flash drive?
05:27:47 <Chazz> boot an entire OS with it
05:27:54 <toymachine2009> what OS?
05:28:02 <xangua> gnu/linux distros
05:28:12 <toymachine2009> linux hmmm
05:28:14 <toymachine2009> sounds like fubn
05:28:15 <toymachine2009> fun
05:28:16 <toymachine2009> lets do it
05:28:18 <Chazz> well, just about any not mac or windows os :P
05:28:39 <xangua> jum
05:28:56 <toymachine2009> where can u get portable linux from?
05:29:16 <Chazz> .g pen drive linux
05:29:17 <GizmoBot> Chazz: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
05:29:21 <Chazz> toymachine2009, ^^
05:29:26 <toymachine2009> SWEET
05:29:27 <toymachine2009> thanks
05:29:38 <xangua> i remember you could bought to Novel a suse distro in usb ready to us
05:29:39 <xangua> use*
05:29:40 <Chazz> np
05:31:06 <toymachine2009> with that linux tho
05:31:12 <toymachine2009> it says u gotta set ur pc to boot from flash drive
05:31:19 <toymachine2009> is there a way it can dual boot? so its more portable
05:31:53 <Chazz> toymachine2009, what you've gotta do is set the bios so it will try to boot from flash drive first
05:32:03 <Chazz> if you dont, it'll just boot form HDd
05:32:30 <toymachine2009> ohh i was thinking u can plug in ur usb
05:32:46 <toymachine2009> o welll i dont think im goin to do this one
05:34:27 <toymachine2009> ya i understand
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09:22:44 <RaulFR> hello :-)
09:23:18 <sar3th> hi RaulFR
09:27:30 <RaulFR> I am using several portable apps from your project, and it works very well on my USB key. In particular had installed Firefox, in its package portable app 3.5.2. Recently, mi desktop installation of Firefox upgraded to 3.5.3 (which works much better), whereas the portable installation on the key did not seem to want to upgrade. So I started the upgrade with the Firefox menu.
09:27:54 <RaulFR> it looks that everything is working well on the key.. but now I see this : http://portableapps.com/forums/support/firefox_portable/faq#1
09:28:08 * RaulFR quotes
09:28:16 <RaulFR> # Updates: Is it ok to let Firefox update itself? At the moment, no. This is due to Bug 406335 which was introduced sometime within the updates to the 2.0 branch of Firefox itself. The Mozilla Software Updater no longer correctly updates secondary, standalone and portable versions of Firefox, Thunderbird, etc. The bug is discussed in more detail in this forum topic about the issue.
09:28:45 <RaulFR> have I screwed up things ?
09:29:40 <RaulFR> the only noticeable change from the previous behaviour (apart from teh correction of bugs affecting version 3.5.2 which were very annoying) is that the spalsh screen does not appear any longer
09:29:48 <RaulFR> splash*
09:29:54 <RaulFR> the*
09:31:57 <sar3th> RaulFR: yeah, you might have screwed something up
09:32:12 <sar3th> best is to install the current firefox version and then copy your Data-folder to it
09:37:45 <RaulFR> you mean backup the "data-folder" of the portable installation, delete the old portable installation, install the current portable firefox version with the portable installer, and copy the "data-folder" back to the new installation
09:39:56 <sar3th> exactly
09:40:39 <RaulFR> ok :-)
09:40:43 <RaulFR> from what I read there : http://portableapps.com/node/10338 it looks like I should now reinstall a fresh Firefox on my local computer, since, apparently the registry of my local computer has been overwritten by the update process of the portable app...
09:41:02 <sar3th> yeah, that's a good idea, too
09:41:30 <sar3th> since the spashscreen didn't show up, firefox portable's settings weren't handled correctly
09:42:09 <RaulFR> ok, thanks a lot for your help
09:42:31 <RaulFR> have a good day / night !
09:42:33 <sar3th> no problem RaulFR :)
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13:37:41 <JoeYoung> can someone please tell me how to install flash on firefox portable without administrator permissions?
13:38:05 <JoeYoung> i can't respond much cause I'm at school, and teachers be found here :/
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13:58:45 <Bensawsome> JoeYoung you should be able to install it without admin priveledges
13:58:53 <Bensawsome> although
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13:59:19 <Bensawsome> some schools disallow the executing of exe files except for a select list approved by the admins
13:59:22 <JoeYoung> yeah, but i didn't know the process
13:59:27 <Bensawsome> ya
13:59:28 <Bensawsome> basically
13:59:32 <JoeYoung> don't worry, i found the proper directory
13:59:38 <JoeYoung> and got it installed
13:59:38 <Bensawsome> download thee installer off our website
13:59:41 <Bensawsome> then install it :D
13:59:42 <Bensawsome> oh ok
13:59:42 <Bensawsome> lol
13:59:54 <JoeYoung> oh shite
13:59:57 <JoeYoung> i gotta go
14:00:00 <JoeYoung> thanks
14:00:05 <Bensawsome> lol ok no prob
14:00:07 <Bensawsome> cya :)
14:00:12 <Bensawsome> good luck
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14:00:58 <pa_3648> Hello! I need some help :) How do I make a program icon visible in the PortableApps menu when the program is installed several directories into the PortableApps dir: "\PortableApps\Folder1\Folder1\program.exe"
14:01:24 <Bensawsome> hmmm
14:01:26 <Bensawsome> well
14:01:34 <Bensawsome> basically you cant :(
14:01:42 <pa_3648> :(
14:01:48 <pa_3648> it's evernote portable version
14:02:03 <Bensawsome> the menu only detects exes in the \PortableApps\APPNAMEPORTABLE\
14:02:27 <pa_3648> by default, it creates 2 sub-directories and installs the actual app into the 2nd subdir
14:02:32 <Bensawsome> o_0
14:02:34 <Bensawsome> wait
14:02:38 <pa_3648> yeah
14:02:40 <Bensawsome> is this from Portableapps.com
14:02:47 <pa_3648> no, it's from evernote.com
14:02:50 <Bensawsome> oh
14:02:52 <Bensawsome> ummm
14:02:53 <Bensawsome> hmmm
14:03:05 <Bensawsome> lemme check it out
14:03:09 <pa_3648> thanks :)
14:03:52 <pa_3648> it asks you, first, to install the regular Windows version onto the hard drive and then - to install the portable version FROM the Win version
14:03:56 <pa_3648> if it makes any sense
14:04:19 <Bensawsome> shoot i gtg
14:04:23 <Bensawsome> im sory :(
14:04:25 <powerjuce> wats up?
14:04:25 <pa_3648> and i can't prevent it from creating subdirectories during installation
14:04:50 <pa_3648> well, i'll play around with the directories and see what happens.
14:05:13 <pa_3648> it's helpful to know that the app should be installed in the \portableapps directory
14:05:14 <powerjuce> hey pa_3648 do u have a link to the download
14:05:16 <pa_3648> thanks a lot!
14:05:19 <pa_3648> hm
14:05:20 <pa_3648> sec
14:05:24 <powerjuce> i can help u out with that
14:05:56 <pa_3648> http://www.evernote.com/about/download/get.php?file=EvernoteWin
14:06:01 <pa_3648> that's for the windows version
14:06:18 <pa_3648> supposedly, the portable version must be installed from the menu of the windows version
14:06:57 <pa_3648> instructions here: http://www.evernote.com/about/support/getting_started.php#a-flash
14:08:23 <powerjuce> pa_3648: http://alpha1beta.googlecode.com/files/EvernotePortable2.2rc2.paf.exe
14:08:27 <powerjuce> try that download
14:10:18 <powerjuce> pa_3648: ok you kno how evernote uses 2 folders if u use the Program files folder that will work with the menu
14:11:14 <pa_3648> Cool
14:11:17 <pa_3648> thanks a lot!!!
14:11:45 <powerjuce> np
14:11:46 <pa_3648> got to run
14:11:51 <pa_3648> thanks a lot for all your help :)
14:12:01 <powerjuce> lol it was mostly Bensawsome
14:12:20 <pa_3648> thanks to you both
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15:22:20 <adriantc> hello!
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15:29:50 <Bensawsome> adriantc do you need something?
15:34:45 <adriantc> yes...
15:35:18 <adriantc> I have a small software with a specific task
15:35:38 <adriantc> and some users recommanded that I make my software portable
15:36:02 <adriantc> it is portable (as in self contained - doesn't store files on the host computer)
15:36:38 <adriantc> what do I have to do to make it good for portableapps
15:38:05 <adriantc> ( my kind of software is very very suitable for USB stick storage )
15:39:37 <Bensawsome> ooh
15:39:37 <Bensawsome> ok
15:39:40 <Bensawsome> hmmm
15:39:40 <Bensawsome> well
15:39:49 <Bensawsome> shoot im not a dev :3
15:40:04 <Bensawsome> so lemme direct you to a link if you want to package it in the portableapps.com format
15:40:07 <Bensawsome> but basically
15:40:56 <Bensawsome> if you want it to show up in the portableapps.com menu then just put it in the X:\PortableApps\AppnamePortable\appnameportalbe.exe (where X is the drive letter of the user's usb drive)
15:41:28 <Bensawsome> adriantc: here is a link so you can see whats required to package it in the portableapps.com format: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
15:43:23 <adriantc> ok... thanks for the info
15:43:43 <adriantc> can my software get to portableapps.com website
15:43:57 <adriantc> if I do it compliant with the standard?
15:44:05 <Bensawsome> hmm
15:44:06 <Bensawsome> well
15:44:13 <Bensawsome> it requires alot of testing and such
15:44:31 <Bensawsome> so when you go through the steps on that link i gave you post it in the beta testing forums
15:44:39 <Bensawsome> so people will test it and everything :)
15:45:56 <adriantc> OK... Thnaks a lot for your help!
15:46:10 <adriantc> Have a nice day (here is evening)
15:46:29 <Bensawsome> no problem ^_^
15:46:37 <Bensawsome> here it is still the morning lol
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16:33:05 <Seth_Hikaru> Hi.
16:33:09 <Seth_Hikaru> Anyone here?
16:33:14 <Seth_Hikaru> That can help me that is.
16:34:38 <Seth_Hikaru> Hello?
16:34:49 <Seth_Hikaru> I need some help on how to make a launcher.
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18:21:43 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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19:48:21 <Seth_hikaru> Hey I need some help on how to make a launcher.
19:48:29 <Seth_hikaru> Is anyone here available?
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19:54:14 <Seth_hikaru> hey Gizmokid2005|AFK
19:54:17 <Seth_hikaru> You there?
19:54:25 <Seth_hikaru> SergentSiler!
19:54:26 <SergentSiler> ohai Seth_hikaru
19:54:28 <Seth_hikaru> You there?
19:54:29 <Seth_hikaru> Hai.
19:54:29 <SergentSiler> lolz
19:54:37 <Seth_hikaru> I madez my first portable app.
19:54:40 <SergentSiler> :o
19:54:51 <Seth_hikaru> I just can't figure out how to make a launcher for it
19:55:00 <SergentSiler> omg btw Seth_hikaru i has a question
19:55:03 <SergentSiler> pm
19:55:06 <Seth_hikaru> Ok
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20:22:25 <Kaze_> Hi
20:22:33 <Kaze_> Can someone help me?
20:22:37 <Chazz> hello Kaze_
20:22:41 <Chazz> how can we help you?
20:23:02 <Kaze_> I wondered how do I create an paf f
20:23:17 <Kaze_> I wondered how do I create an paf.exe file?
20:23:49 <Chazz> Kaze_, http://portableapps.com/node/14868
20:24:05 <Kaze_> thnx Chazz
20:24:10 <Chazz> np
20:28:50 <gluxon> Kaze_: Just wondering... what app are you trying to Portablelize?
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20:31:45 <Kaze_> Snes9x
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20:33:24 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 :D
20:33:24 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 :D
20:33:38 <Kaze_> why do you ask?
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20:59:21 <aka-hoernertee> hi
20:59:52 <Chazz> hi aka-hoernertee
20:59:54 <aka-hoernertee> can someone tell me where i can download skins for pa
21:00:16 <gluxon> aka-heornertee: http://ptc.kain-planet.de/
21:00:27 <aka-hoernertee> danke
21:00:37 <Chazz> aka-hoernertee, what gluxon said, but also search on the forums, and i think on deviantart theres some
21:00:45 <gluxon> Chazz: There is?
21:00:58 <aka-hoernertee> thx
21:01:01 <Chazz> gluxon, ya
21:01:52 <gluxon> Holy crap!!!! There's like... A LOT!!! --> http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&q=PortableApps
21:02:18 <Chazz> gluxon, we know.
21:02:21 <gluxon> .. some of them were copied from NeoRame and Mr. Elchabeau...
21:02:53 <Chazz> gluxon, -ot time
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21:14:57 <Kaze> Help
21:15:09 <Chazz> with?
21:15:25 <Kaze> i need help with knowing how to upload the installer file
21:16:14 <Chazz> .g file hosting service
21:16:14 <GizmoBot> Chazz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_hosting_service
21:16:39 <Kaze> i mean here on the portable apps site
21:17:56 <Kaze> hello?
21:18:12 <Chazz> so, you mean, like, posting about it?
21:19:56 <Kaze> i mean like putting it on the Applications site
21:20:57 <Kaze> Chazz:
21:21:09 <Chazz> Kaze, first, post about it in the betas
21:21:40 <Kaze> how
21:24:02 <Kaze> Chazz, how?
21:24:27 <Chazz> Kaze, do you have an account for the PA.c forums?
21:24:54 <Kaze> i think so
21:25:08 <Chazz> then login
21:25:36 <Kaze> done
21:26:04 <Kaze> Chazz, and so?
21:26:19 <Chazz> one sec
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21:26:39 <Kaze> ok
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21:29:10 <Chazz> Kaze,
21:29:13 <Chazz> go here: http://portableapps.com/forums/development/beta_testing
21:29:16 <Chazz> and click the
21:29:20 <Chazz> Post New Forum Topic
21:29:21 <Chazz> link
21:30:13 <Kaze> Chazz and so?
21:30:25 <Chazz> then type the post.
21:31:09 <Kaze> done
21:31:34 <Kaze> Chazz, but how does this publish it?
21:32:23 <Chazz> it makes a post about it in the Beta forums, for all who look at the forums to see.
21:32:42 <Chazz> It won't become an official app till after the Release Team checks it out though.
21:33:22 <Kaze> oh thnx then. Chazz, Can you test it?
21:33:31 <Kaze> http://portableapps.com/node/20769
21:33:41 * Chazz isn't on the RT, but will check it out
21:33:57 * Kaze is relivied
21:34:03 <Chazz> Kaze, try giving us some more detail
21:34:13 <Kaze> oh will d0o
21:34:14 <Chazz> as in, whats the app, whats it used for, etc
21:34:19 <Chazz> awesome :)
21:34:55 <MaienM> Kaze: try to use this format: http://portableapps.com/node/11965
21:35:17 <Chazz> oh, good for saying that MaienM, I forgot.
21:35:30 <Kaze> MaienM, thnx.
21:36:17 <MaienM> also, you misplaced it into the development forum while it should be in the beta testing forum ;)
21:36:49 <Chazz> and, umm... you didn't upload it
21:39:34 <Kaze> oops
21:39:52 <Kaze> But theres a link there. Chazz MaienM
21:40:53 <Chazz> Link, yes. File, no. :P
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21:41:25 <Kaze> There you are, Chazz try it
21:42:16 <Kaze> all fixed
21:42:21 <MaienM> the download links says "loading files"
21:42:24 <MaienM> and stays that way
21:42:29 <Kaze> it does?
21:42:36 <Kaze> not with me
21:42:37 * Chazz still sees no files
21:43:13 * Kaze wonders if they have slow internet
21:43:29 <Chazz> Kaze, I have high speed. :P
21:44:22 <Kaze> Chazz and MaienM. Try now
21:44:43 <MaienM> same thing
21:44:51 <MaienM> and my internet isn't slow ;)
21:45:10 <Kaze> MaienM update the page
21:45:20 <Chazz> MaienM, it's workin now
21:45:22 <MaienM> yeah I just noticed :P
21:45:25 <MaienM> works
21:45:29 <Kaze> when i click there the browser ask if i wanna save the file
21:45:39 <Kaze> give it a try
21:45:41 <MaienM> I just refreshed the mediafire page I already had open, lazy me
21:45:51 <Chazz> lol
21:47:27 <Kaze> lol x 2
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21:50:29 <Chazz> night MaienM
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21:51:00 <Chazz> Kaze, i'll test it out in a few minutes when I boot back into windows
21:54:13 <Kaze> Chazz: ok
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21:58:03 <Chazz> hey powerjuce :)
22:00:59 <powerjuce> wassup Chazz
22:01:40 <Chazz> not much, just finished helpin Kaze get a beta post setup, you?
22:02:08 <powerjuce> doing some phys hw
22:02:16 <Chazz> ah, cool
22:09:00 <Kaze> Chazz: have you tried it yet?
22:09:13 <Chazz> Kaze sorry, not yet
22:09:24 <Chazz> have some stuff i've gotta work on in Ubuntu still
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23:15:47 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
23:16:22 <Chazz> wb Gizmokid2005
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