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00:06:11 <Guest48237> Bensawsome
00:06:59 <Guest48237> GizmoBot: hello?
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02:27:40 <Chazz> powerjuce, it's been /forever/ since you've been in here! :P
02:28:21 <powerjuce> lol
02:28:33 <powerjuce> i gotta keep going on an off line for a while now
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02:38:16 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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05:36:31 <pa_3794> hi
05:36:35 <Chazz> Hello pa_3794
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07:46:06 <pa_6460> How can I put a password on my portableapps drive
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12:32:19 <SLAX_user> Does the platform support Linux OS??
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14:49:24 <KimFin> Hi, I'm having some problems with installing portable apps.
14:50:26 <KimFin> Every app seems to fail at writing the *.exe file.
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14:51:24 <KimFin> I've tried changing the directory and using other apps but to no avail.
14:53:10 <KimFin> Any ideas what might be causing this?
14:54:02 <sar3th> KimFin: are you installing it directly to your flashdrive?
14:55:36 <KimFin> Yeah. But I've tried installing it to my harddrive also and it doesn't work.
14:55:53 <sar3th> that is very strange
14:56:12 <sar3th> do you have any security software installed? for example antivirus products?
14:56:29 <KimFin> AVG.
14:58:00 <sar3th> is it possible that the creation of .exe files is restricted on your computer?
15:03:56 <KimFin> Umm. It could be. Sounds weird though.
15:05:07 <sar3th> yeah, normally people who have problems with writing of exes through the installer use norton
15:05:17 <sar3th> are you on your home computer?
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15:07:17 <Simeon> Hi All
15:07:48 <KimFin> sar3th, yeah, just figured out what was causing the errors.
15:07:57 <sar3th> what was it KimFin ?
15:08:05 <KimFin> I recently updated my firewall and didn't reboot my computer afterwards.
15:08:11 <sar3th> ah okay
15:08:17 <KimFin> So I just rebooted and it works now.
15:08:20 <KimFin> Thanks though. :)
15:08:21 <sar3th> good :)
15:08:28 <sar3th> no problem, you're welcome!
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16:24:56 <OliverK> release: Geany Portable .18 Dev Test Version 2: http://tinyurl.com/rbx2kj Updates some cosmetics, paths. Adds support for the PA.com Plaform to switch langauge.
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17:19:09 <domecc> hi, when I compile the portable installer, it just include App directory, but not Data. What should I do?
17:20:53 <domecc> I need include the file "settings.ini" in Data directory.
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17:21:20 <domecc> help
17:22:59 <domecc> anybody?
17:32:28 <OliverK> that should be handled by the launcher, not the installer
17:33:00 <OliverK> place settings.ini in App\DefaultData, and then have the launcher (at first run) copy it to data\settings
17:42:54 <domecc> Thanks!
17:44:37 <OliverK> no problem
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19:12:09 <GizmoBot> gluxon left :D ... but came back ... :(
19:12:33 <gluxon> ?
19:12:39 <gluxon> I left like... yesterday.
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19:45:36 <gluxon> Hey, does anybody know how John put the NSIS message box prompts in the Installer?
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19:52:25 <domecc> help: http://portableapps.com/node/20773#comment-128062
19:52:57 <domecc> IfFileExists $EXEDIR\Data\settings\Settings.ini "" CopyFiles /SILENT $EXEDIR\App\DefaultData\*.* $EXEDIR\Data\ But, the launcher copy the settings.ini each time. How can I make it only the first time? I've read the NSIS help about IfFileExists, but couldn't find what is wrong.
19:53:48 <domecc> Sorry! I'll wring again.
19:53:56 <domecc> IfFileExists $EXEDIR\Data\settings\Settings.ini ""
19:54:04 <domecc> CopyFiles /SILENT $EXEDIR\App\DefaultData\*.* $EXEDIR\Data\
19:54:13 <domecc> But, the launcher copy the settings.ini each time. How can I make it only the first time? I've read the NSIS help about IfFileExists, but couldn't find what is wrong.
19:55:03 <gluxon> domecc: Please wait... I need to read what you just posted.
19:55:39 <gluxon> Ah...
19:55:47 <gluxon> I see your problem.
19:56:01 <gluxon> Do this...
19:57:12 <gluxon> IfFileExists "$EXEDIR\Data\settings\AppNamePortableSettings.ini" "" ContinueElseWhereCauseASettingsFileAlreadyExists
19:58:00 <gluxon> WriteINIStr "$EXEDIR\Data\settings\AppNamePortableSettings.ini" "AppNamePortableSettings" "LastDrive" "$LastDrive"
19:58:05 <gluxon> Something like that.
19:58:15 <gluxon> I used LastDrive which should be in your script.
19:58:27 <gluxon> but you can just write anything in the INI.
19:58:43 <gluxon> Such as FirstRun=False/True or something else.
20:00:34 <gluxon> ...
20:00:42 <gluxon> I hate it when people don't say anything :D :P
20:00:55 <gluxon> .... GizmoBot should have a function to ping everybody.
20:00:59 <gluxon> :)
20:01:02 <gluxon> That'd be greate.
20:01:26 <domecc> sorry, come back.
20:01:36 <gluxon> :)
20:02:10 <gluxon> PortableApps.com seems to help with NSIS more than the actual NSIS web site... lol :P
20:02:42 <domecc> I just want: if setting file not exist in the first run time, copy the default setting.
20:03:13 <domecc> But do not copy if setting file exit.
20:04:58 <Gizmokid2005> domecc: it's because you didn't give the launcher anything to go to if the file DOES exist
20:04:59 <domecc> I'm a beginner....
20:05:04 <Gizmokid2005> you have to give it an instruction to go to
20:05:09 <Gizmokid2005> like gluxon said here
20:05:19 <Gizmokid2005> [15:57:11] <gluxon> IfFileExists "$EXEDIR\Data\settings\AppNamePortableSettings.ini" "" ContinueElseWhereCauseASettingsFileAlreadyExists
20:05:50 <gluxon> And the "" tells it to just execute the next line.
20:06:01 <gluxon> Unless the next line ends the current label.
20:06:11 <gluxon> And this way is better.
20:06:20 <gluxon> It'll be a bit smaller.
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20:07:10 <domecc> I'see
20:07:15 <gluxon> In short, this way creates a settings file if none exists, you way, copies a settings file (if it worked in the first place).
20:07:22 <gluxon> domecc: Already.
20:07:24 <gluxon> ...
20:07:26 <gluxon> *Alright.
20:07:29 <domecc> Thanks very much.
20:07:45 <pa_1537> Is it possible to install it also on a local drive?
20:07:54 <gluxon> pa_1537: Yes.
20:08:04 <gluxon> You can install PortableApps.com on a local C: drive.
20:08:22 <gluxon> Only... you can't install it in the root without administrative privs.
20:08:34 <pa_1537> I tried with Codysafe but it cannot install in a folder, lets say c:\usbkey\...
20:08:36 <gluxon> Windows doesn't allow any files (only folders) in it's root.
20:08:41 <gluxon> ...
20:08:59 <pa_1537> Installing it in the root is a bad idea...
20:09:23 <gluxon> Okay... You shouldn't be comming to PortableApps.com help on CodySafe, a program that stole PortableApps.com Platform source but I'll help anyway.
20:09:37 <gluxon> Try installing it to your desktop.
20:09:48 <gluxon> Then drag the extracted files, anywhere you want.
20:09:58 <gluxon> BTW, what errors do you get?
20:10:27 <pa_1537> Lets reprase it then, can I install PortableAppss in C:\USBkey so it keeps my system clean and I can enjoy the speed of thes nice portable apps instead of bloatware from bad programmers?
20:10:44 <gluxon> Yes.
20:11:03 <gluxon> ... actually, I"m not 100% sure, since i've really never tried it before.
20:11:21 <pa_1537> Then I will try it over the weekend if possible and see how it goes. Right now it is 10 PM and I want to stop working...
20:11:37 <gluxon> But if you do that for the PortableApps.com Platoform, but I don't know about CodySfe.
20:11:41 <gluxon> *CodySafe
20:11:46 <gluxon> Okay.
20:12:14 <pa_1537> CodySafe does not like it !
20:12:34 <pa_1537> The appmanager cannot be found because it uses an absolute folder path.
20:13:07 <pa_1537> So I was hoping that maybe PortableApps does not have this limitation.
20:13:48 <gluxon> Nope.
20:13:52 <gluxon> It doesn't.
20:13:59 <gluxon> That's why it's a lot better than CodySafe.
20:14:00 <gluxon> :)
20:14:22 <gluxon> I see no reason to get CodySafe anyway... the only advantage is Aero-Like Transparency.
20:14:38 <pa_1537> Great, thanks. And I believe you about that because CodySafe is slick on the surface but under the hood it is not as flexible as you would expect.
20:14:53 <gluxon> Exactly.
20:15:15 <pa_1537> If it works I will ping something back in Forums or here. Bye for now.
20:15:19 <gluxon> I found the PortableApps.com Platform to be very clean and no bugs.
20:15:22 <gluxon> Okay.
20:15:24 <gluxon> Thanks.
20:15:27 <gluxon> Bye.
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20:15:48 <gluxon> domecc: Did you solve your problem?
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20:25:56 <pa_2685> Just wanted to let you know that it installs fine on a local drive in a sub folder, so it is not required to be put into the root of the C drive.
20:26:31 <pa_2685> I am going to convert my files and USB to PortableApps.com !
20:26:52 <pa_2685> Anybody had experience how to do this fast?
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20:30:18 <pa_2685> Is there someway to convert Codysafe USB drive to PortableApps without having to setup all these programs again?
20:31:29 <pa_2685> CTCP?
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20:32:53 <gluxon> sorry.
20:33:01 <gluxon> I was someplace else.
20:33:36 <gluxon> Um.. I said you can't put it in the root of the C: drive (You can for flash drives).
20:33:44 <gluxon> And no.
20:33:57 <gluxon> CodySafe and PortableApps.com are really not compatible with each other.
20:34:07 <gluxon> Unless they both contain a PortableApps folder.
20:34:28 <gluxon> Well, only actual PortableApps can be used together on both Platforms.
20:35:14 <pa_2685> There is a folder from Codysafe called \PortableApps that I assume will need to be put in \PortableApps\PortableApps.com\App if I am not mistaken.
20:35:28 <pa_2685> Is that assumption correct?
20:35:30 <gluxon> No.
20:35:51 <gluxon> Just merge the 2 PortableApps folders.
20:36:05 <gluxon> A.K.A. copy everything from the old PortableApps folder to the other.
20:36:15 <gluxon> BRB
20:37:04 <pa_2685> So I should leave the \App in tact and create under \PortableApps.com the extra folder \PortableApps ?
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20:37:33 <dbdii407> We use X:\PortableApps
20:37:46 <dbdii407> We don't use X:\PortableApps.com\PortableApps
20:38:23 <pa_2685> Then it must be a system created sub. I get it.
20:38:49 <pa_2685> It seems like a very quick transition that will not hurt at all.
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20:43:18 <Nichi> Is there a portable IDE? (integrated development environment)
20:43:21 <pa_2685> gluxon
20:43:32 <gluxon> yes?
20:43:34 <gluxon> I just got back.
20:43:39 <gluxon> Nichi: YES!!
20:43:54 <gluxon> You just named the app that I work on.
20:44:00 <dbdii407> Woo?
20:44:03 <pa_2685> I have finished the complete conversion to PortableApps between now and the last message and it works already. :-)
20:44:52 <pa_2685> 133 applications are directly accessible
20:44:54 <Nichi> ?
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20:45:05 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/node/20219
20:45:12 <Nichi> What
20:45:17 <dbdii407> .title
20:45:18 <gluxon> Um.. the link I just posted.
20:45:18 <GizmoBot> dbdii407: Eclipse Portable 3.5 Development Test 2 | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
20:45:36 <gluxon> Eclipse Portable (Fully Functional) --> http://portableapps.com/node/20219
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20:45:53 <Nichi> <gluxon> You just named the app that I work on.<--- I did?
20:45:57 <gluxon> yeah.
20:46:02 <gluxon> I work on Eclipse Portable.
20:46:11 <gluxon> And you just asked for it out of random luck :P
20:46:23 <Nichi> Ok
20:46:24 <dbdii407> Can you say that one more time? :P
20:46:28 <gluxon> ?
20:46:43 <gluxon> dbdii407: What?
20:46:46 <Nichi> What's Eclipse Portable? An IDE?
20:47:10 <Nichi> Is Eclipse an IDE I take it
20:47:32 <pa_2685> If you don't know about Eclipse then it is better to do some reading about it before trying...
20:47:32 <dbdii407> Nichi: Click the link
20:47:35 <dbdii407> Read it. ;)
20:47:42 <dbdii407> If it's what you want, get it.
20:47:55 <pa_2685> Finished.
20:48:24 <Nichi> Nichi: Click the link <--- This IRC, not a web browser
20:48:50 <ZachThibeau> usually when you click a link in irc it will bring up your default browser and open it for you
20:49:09 <Nichi> hmm
20:49:32 <Nichi> Which I had a default
20:49:36 <Nichi> wish*
20:49:41 <dbdii407> :|
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20:49:48 <Nichi> ;p
20:49:52 <dbdii407> Start > Internet is your default browser
20:50:00 <Nichi> Hmm
20:50:39 <Nichi> Must have deketed it
20:50:44 <Nichi> deleted*
20:51:27 * Nichi opens up browser and types link
20:51:35 <xangua> jum.........................
20:52:13 <Nichi> Oh ya... does it compile C++?
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20:54:10 <gluxon> Nichi: Yes... which MinGW.
20:54:14 <gluxon> *with (which)
20:54:34 <gluxon> And I have to go, Eclipse is the most famous IDE which supports like, every Programming Language.
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20:54:45 <Nichi> cool
20:55:07 <Nichi> Does it work on 2000?
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20:55:25 <Nichi> (win2k)
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20:57:04 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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21:45:13 <domecc> Thanks everyone! I've solved the probloem: http://portableapps.com/node/20773#comment-128071
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23:53:03 <Chazz> with?
23:53:17 <Dub_> is there an asx codec for VirtuaDub Portable?
23:53:36 * Chazz doesn't know.
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23:54:16 <Dub_> does anyone else know?
23:55:55 <Dub_> oh, well, thanks for trying
23:55:58 <Dub_> bye
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23:58:43 <GizmoBot> gluxon left :D ... but came back ... :(
23:59:19 <gluxon> I left a long time ago you crazy bot!