IRC Log from 2009-09-20

00:00:12 <TimClark> and lol counts , :P
00:00:32 <Chazz> OMG KEWL! Iz soo l33t TimClark! :P
00:01:09 <TimClark> yeah, stuff like that is bad enough in the irc, but in the forum it is really bad
00:01:23 <Chazz> ya
00:01:38 <TimClark> by the way, it's the folks who talk like that that can't reply properly in the first place i'v noticed
00:01:49 <Chazz> Ya, you're right.
00:02:00 <Chazz> And, it's REALLY annoying when they don't do it right.
00:02:02 <TimClark> SergentSiler: http://portableapps.com/node/20783#comment-128139 :D
00:02:07 <Chazz> Then no one can read it.
00:02:29 <SergentSiler> TimClark, :D
00:02:36 <TimClark> :D
00:03:25 <TimClark> SergentSiler: now reply to me with something like, sorry, gotcha
00:03:37 <SergentSiler> lol
00:04:07 <TimClark> then i will reply to you and we will have a subthread
00:04:41 <SergentSiler> done
00:04:45 <SergentSiler> idk if its what u wanted :P
00:04:57 <TimClark> checking
00:05:05 <SergentSiler> i can edit this time tho :D
00:05:31 <TimClark> no, you put it in the wrong spot, :P
00:05:44 <SergentSiler> where did you want it?
00:05:45 <TimClark> it should have been a reply to my reply to your comment
00:05:53 <SergentSiler> oh
00:05:57 <SergentSiler> i added a comment >_>
00:06:06 <TimClark> where it belong, a reply to my reply to your comment
00:06:09 <SergentSiler> lol
00:06:23 <TimClark> you comment makes no sense where it is
00:06:36 <SergentSiler> srry D:
00:06:39 <Chazz> TimClark, can i make a new comment saying This is a comment that doesn
00:06:43 <SergentSiler> can u delete it?
00:06:47 <Chazz> 't have anything to do with the above replies
00:06:48 <TimClark> np, i can work with it
00:07:00 <Chazz> or somethin like that
00:09:03 <TimClark> chazz, no
00:09:08 <Chazz> ok
00:09:18 <TimClark> off topic is a whole differnt thing then threading
00:09:35 <TimClark> if you did that you would be , well, OFF the topic :P
00:09:37 <Chazz> i mean, not an off-topic comment
00:09:52 <TimClark> i understood what you meant
00:09:57 <Chazz> oh, ok...
00:10:17 <TimClark> SergentSiler: http://portableapps.com/node/20783#comment-128141
00:10:38 <SergentSiler> :)
00:10:58 <TimClark> reply that my grammer was bad
00:11:58 <SergentSiler> how should i word it?
00:12:01 <TimClark> or is it my spelling
00:12:19 * SergentSiler isnt sure to begin with
00:12:26 <TimClark> read my reply and point out my errors in grammer or spelling
00:12:39 <TimClark> i'm sure there's one in there
00:12:48 <ve4jhj> both grammar AND spelling, i think
00:13:02 <TimClark> intead
00:13:14 <SergentSiler> someone point it out please xD
00:13:18 <SergentSiler> i cant see it
00:13:41 <TimClark> intead shoould be instead
00:13:49 <ve4jhj> i'm on it
00:14:04 <TimClark> ty ve4jhj , who ever you are :P
00:14:20 <ve4jhj> just a lurker, as it were
00:15:06 <TimClark> make it short ve4jhj , as i will have to critize it, as you should not be pointing out grammer or spelling errors in posts unless important :P
00:15:17 <ve4jhj> true
00:16:01 <ve4jhj> ok, here you go: http://portableapps.com/node/20783#comment-128142
00:17:13 <TimClark> please stand by...
00:17:52 <ve4jhj> you can criticize that the error i pointed out isn't important...
00:22:08 <ve4jhj> nice reply, Tim
00:22:36 <ve4jhj> i like how you specified "normal user"
00:23:22 <TimClark> ve4jhj: http://portableapps.com/node/20783#comment-128143
00:23:56 <TimClark> refresh, i added more
00:26:26 <ve4jhj> Clarifying is always good...who is this aimed at, anyhow? All forum members, new members, some mix thereof?
00:26:44 <TimClark> replies to SergentSiler 's comment should end now, getting too long to use as a good example
00:26:57 <TimClark> some mix thereof
00:26:57 <SergentSiler> lol
00:27:06 <ve4jhj> that's what i figured
00:27:17 <TimClark> but new members will never see it unless it gets stickied
00:27:34 <TimClark> but new members can be pointed to it as an example
00:27:43 <TimClark> and old members as a reminder
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00:32:49 <TimClark> SergentSiler: you misunderstood my gotcha as, "Ha, I got you" as oppsed to my gotcha as in understood, i have edited you to make it clear
00:33:13 <SergentSiler> oh XD
00:33:26 * SergentSiler 's brain isnt working at 100%
00:33:59 <TimClark> to me gotcha has always ment, understood, i can see easily how others can see it differently
00:34:24 <TimClark> you did what you thought i wanted you to do, so thanks for trying
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00:37:36 <SergentSiler> lol
00:37:39 <SergentSiler> srry :P
00:37:48 * SergentSiler hasnt been to bright lately D::
00:39:58 <TimClark> no need to be sorry SergentSiler , none at all, again, you did what you thought i wanted you to do, thanks
00:40:38 <SergentSiler> np
00:42:16 <TimClark> do you think my use of "edit" is good ?
00:43:39 <ve4jhj> which time?
00:45:02 <TimClark> all of them, i noted clearly that i had edited the Topic/comment/reply since i first saved it, so the chages stood out
00:45:49 <TimClark> the mod "edit" was intended to be a specail case, as if any mod had done it, not me [who is a normal user for purposes of the topic ]
00:46:11 <ve4jhj> i think they all fit - as a mod you edited as a mod would, and the other edits fit as well
00:46:26 <ve4jhj> particularly since you noted they were edits
00:46:52 <TimClark> and folks should always do that
00:47:14 <ve4jhj> my thoughts exactly
00:47:26 <TimClark> it saves trouble when you replied or commented on something that was not there when you made your reply
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00:50:38 <TimClark> so for example poster one said such and such is the case, somewhere else someone quotes him, but he is not aware that later the poster has edited it to say Not the case, he should have said [edit: sorry, I meant to say NOT the case]
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00:51:50 <ve4jhj> gotcha
00:52:05 <TimClark> :P
00:52:27 <ve4jhj> are you wanting something in there about proper quoting, as well? ie., cite vs. quotation marks, etc?
00:52:45 <TimClark> no, not just yet
00:52:49 <ve4jhj> kk
00:53:41 <TimClark> sometimes i use "kjjjjlljjlj" and sometimes i use <cite>ljljjjljjio</cite> depending on how i want it to be seen
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00:54:36 <TimClark> and i don't think it's fair to really lock folks into learning too much at once
00:54:41 <ve4jhj> quoting should almost be a seperate topic on it's own, or rather, in a topic on proper netiquette in the forums
00:55:27 <TimClark> the funny thing is in our fourm <cite> and <em> look excatly the same :O
00:55:51 <TimClark> they both look italic
00:56:22 <TimClark> when i mod edit i use <em> cause that's how i was taught
00:56:38 <ve4jhj> the only difference, then, is that you can "quote" someone's username using cite rather than with em
00:56:59 <TimClark> to make clear I always use the opening and closing [ ]
00:57:26 <ve4jhj> I've noticed that most of the mods, if not all, do the same
00:57:37 <TimClark> again, we don't want to hit folks with too much at once
00:57:57 <TimClark> ve4jhj: yes, that way it is consistant, you know it's a mod edit
00:58:05 <ve4jhj> different topic, different time
00:58:27 <TimClark> Now lets talk about language and manners :P
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00:58:33 <TimClark> joke, joke, joke
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06:29:19 <Horusofoz> Hi guys :)
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13:17:53 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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16:33:41 <gabriel_> hello
16:33:49 <gabriel_> anyone can help me?
16:34:10 <gabriel_> ?
16:34:14 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello
16:34:21 <Oni-Neoxes> What do you need help with today gabriel_
16:34:22 <gabriel_> hello
16:34:42 <gabriel_> my grandefather buy a external HD
16:35:15 <gabriel_> in his system (XP) he can't explore the external HD
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16:36:06 <gabriel_> but there appears "if you install a USB 2.0 that system can be more fast"
16:36:25 <gabriel_> i try to find Q&A here, but that mirc chat come first
16:37:43 <Oni-Neoxes> Whats the operating System?
16:37:59 <gabriel_> Windows XP
16:38:20 <Oni-Neoxes> ok.
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16:55:08 <gabriel_> no one will help me?
16:55:42 <Chazz> gabriel_, sounds like a driver problem
16:56:15 <gabriel_> hm, here works, can be
16:56:23 <gabriel_> where i can correct that?
16:56:47
16:56:57 <xangua> upps wrong channel.....again............
16:57:34 <gabriel_> ?
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16:57:55 <Chazz> gabriel_, try and find the correct drivers for it
16:58:00 <Chazz> then install them...
16:58:11 <gabriel_> yes, but only usb drivers?
16:58:39 <Chazz> the HDD might need special drivers or something...
16:59:04 <Chazz> u /should/ be albe to use USB 1.0, and not need to update to 2.0 though...
17:01:59 <gabriel_> i think same
17:02:02 <gabriel_> thx for the help
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17:29:24 <GizmoBot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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17:33:28 <pa_6938> applications.ini:DownloadURL=Sumatra_PDF_Portable_0.9.4.paf.exe
17:33:31 <pa_6938> applications.ini:DownloadURL=SudokuPortable_1.1.7.3.paf.exe
17:33:35 <pa_6938> -rwxrwxrwx 1 0 566K 2009-07-14 19:22 SudokuPortable_1.1.7.3_English.paf.exe
17:33:37 <pa_6938> -rwxrwxrwx 1 0 1.6M 2009-07-28 18:00 SumatraPDFPortable_0.9.4.paf.exe
17:34:24 <pa_6938> the filename in applications.ini doesn't match actual downloadurl
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17:34:48 <pa_6938> http://update.portableapps.com/platform/applications.ini
17:35:40 <pa_6938> http://portableapps.com/apps/office/sumatra_pdf_portable
17:35:59 <pa_6938> http://portableapps.com/apps/games/sudoku_portable
17:36:40 <pa_6938> That is all i had to say, thanks , goodbye
17:36:46 <Chazz> umm...
17:36:53 <Chazz> pa_6938, for what reason did you say that?
17:37:01 <pa_6938> I think its a bug
17:37:11 <Chazz> Ok then...
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18:48:13 <pa_8202> how can i make my own portable apps easy? ive tried thininstall but dont like it. the apps seem glitchy.
18:52:37 <pa_8202> ?
18:53:50 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8202: not only is thinstall glitchy, it's illegal
18:54:03 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8202: look here
18:54:06 <Gizmokid2005> .def field_guide
18:54:06 <GizmoBot> field_guide is here: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
18:54:11 <Gizmokid2005> that'll help you get started.
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19:42:03 <Chazz> Hello pa_9200
19:42:25 <pa_9200> Hello chass
19:43:13 <pa_9200> Came in here to find help w/ getting a portable Firebird problem.
19:44:29 <Oni-Neoxes> Firefox or Thunderbird?
19:45:06 <pa_9200> Sorry can't key straight, Thunderbird.
19:47:36 <pa_9200> Was also having a recent problem w/ Mines-Perfect Portable
19:52:33 <pa_9200> version?, of thunderbird?, 2.0.0.19
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20:03:14 <pa_9200> Chazz, sorry bout the misspell before, would this be a correct forum for help w/ a problem w/ Thunderbird Portable?
20:03:50 <Chazz> pa_9200, this would be the place to ask for help
20:04:04 <pa_9200> help!
20:04:15 <Chazz> whats theproblem?
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20:05:21 <pa_9200> When I run thunderbird it won't retain my mail account info, and I have to set up a new account every time
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20:07:28 <Chazz> pa_9200, is TBP shut down cleanly?
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20:09:51 <pa_9200> Not positve about cleanly or not, but I ried reinstalling and it made no difference
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20:25:57 <pa_9200> Chazz did you see my last?
20:26:05 <Chazz> oh, sorry, ya
20:26:15 <Chazz> and, how do you end TBP?
20:27:08 <pa_9200> Usually the close button
20:27:36 <Chazz> ok, good
20:29:07 <Chazz> pa_9200, unfortunatly, I don't have a clue why it's not working. :(
20:29:08 <Chazz> Sorry.
20:30:04 <pa_9200> Hmm, me either unfortunatly, but thanks for trying.
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21:02:58 <pa_8274> HEllo
21:03:19 <pa_8274> Quick question, anyone knows the keyboard shortcut to bring portable apps menu?
21:03:42 <Chazz> WinKey+Alt+Space
21:03:47 <Chazz> pa_8274, ^
21:04:25 <pa_8274> uhm
21:04:26 <pa_8274> not working
21:04:27 <pa_8274> :(
21:04:42 <pa_8274> brings current window menu
21:04:47 <pa_8274> like alt+space
21:05:18 <pa_8274> I remember one time I bring it with one of the F keys but not sure wich
21:05:42 <Bensawsome> what versiojn of the menu do you have pa_8274?
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21:06:15 <pa_9864> opst alt+f4
21:06:17 <pa_9864> lol
21:06:27 <Bensawsome> what versiojn of the menu do you have pa_9864
21:06:52 <pa_9864> ups
21:06:55 <pa_9864> where I can see that
21:07:03 <Bensawsome> umm
21:07:06 <Bensawsome> shoot o ne sec lol
21:07:15 <Chazz> pa_9864, help>about
21:07:52 <pa_9864> 1.5.2
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21:11:20 <pa_9864> 1.5.2
21:11:23 <pa_9864> that one?
21:14:50 <Gizmokid2005> pa_9864: that should still be WIN+P
21:15:00 <Gizmokid2005> it's either going to be WIN+P or ALT+WIN+SPC
21:16:54 <pa_9864> kewwwl
21:16:59 <pa_9864> win+p did it
21:17:01 <pa_9864> :D
21:17:09 <pa_9864> thanks a lot ! I love this thingie
21:17:26 <pa_9864> makes me feel every pc I sit on is my pc
21:18:25 <sar3th> :D
21:19:42 <pa_9864> well have a great day :D bye bye!
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23:07:03 * warzone needs help
23:07:30 <sar3th> hi warzone, ask you question please :)
23:07:35 <warzone> do cheat codes work with the portable version of warzone 2100?
23:07:51 <sar3th> uh, i don't know about that
23:08:18 <warzone> does the portable version have patch 1.01?
23:09:42 <xangua> read the topic
23:10:17 <Chazz> xangua, theres nothing about warzone in the topic...
23:12:57 <warzone> the topic does not say
23:13:08 <warzone> that is why I came here
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23:18:18 <GizmoBot> OliverK thinks he needs a new .def
23:18:23 <Bensawsome> warzone anything that comes with the program in a normal version will work in the portable one
23:18:38 <Bensawsome> and whatever version is out is the version we have
23:18:41 <Bensawsome> e4rr
23:18:42 <Bensawsome> i mean
23:18:51 <Bensawsome> whatever is on our site is what we have
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