IRC Log from 2009-09-23

00:00:05 <gluxon> Hello kai.
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00:03:26 <Chazz> Good-bye kai.
00:03:27 <Chazz> :P
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00:09:54 <gluxon> wb kai.
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00:30:44 <gluxon> kai_62656:
00:30:45 <gluxon> ?
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00:33:32 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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04:00:18 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
04:00:19 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
04:02:49 <Chazz> Evening TimClark
04:03:09 <TimClark> go to bed dabomb
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04:19:26 <Bensawsome> hey TimClark ^_^
04:19:50 <TimClark> why to you play Bensawsome
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05:53:12 <Mir> dood
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12:04:01 <Horusofoz> Hi Guys
12:04:13 <Horusofoz> Seeking non-portable xp support if anyones up for it?
12:04:26 <sar3th> xp support?
12:04:27 <sar3th> always
12:06:29 <Horusofoz> Ok I'm trying to dit permissions for a limited user account I created so the user cannot change the pasword. Any ideas?
12:06:51 <sar3th> xp home or xp pro?
12:06:57 <Horusofoz> xp pro
12:07:15 <sar3th> okay
12:07:18 <sar3th> start->run
12:07:25 <sar3th> compmgmt.msc
12:07:36 <sar3th> that will open the computer management
12:07:58 <sar3th> there you click on local users and groups (dunno the expression in english, i am on a german windows)
12:08:00 <sar3th> then on users
12:08:11 <Horusofoz> Exact same words :)
12:08:19 <sar3th> there you click the user you want to change and right click and select properties
12:08:34 <sar3th> then there's an option like "user may not change his password"
12:08:48 <Horusofoz> Thanks heaps sar3th :)
12:08:51 <sar3th> tick it and that shoulf be it :)
12:09:32 <sar3th> np Horusofoz
12:10:23 <Horusofoz> back in a bit. Going to test the new accoun. Thanks again :)
12:10:28 <sar3th> =)
12:10:31 <sar3th> see ya
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12:19:55 <Horusofoz> Hey sar3th. Up for a little more support?
12:20:27 <sar3th> sure
12:21:05 <Horusofoz> Cool. I'll give a brief of hat I've done so as to put into context what I'm trying to do.
12:22:01 <sar3th> sure
12:22:01 <Horusofoz> I've created a limited user account for when my friends or family want to use my pc. I'm trying to let it do all the basics like use the internet, download, burn cds etc.
12:23:46 <Horusofoz> Current issue is the limited user account cannot use InfraRecorder. Not sure of the specific permission involved but guessing it is specific to the cd drive. Do you know how I can enable the limited user to access the cd drive?
12:24:06 <sar3th> uh, difficult
12:24:16 <sar3th> some programs come with a solution for that, for example nero
12:24:34 <sar3th> i don't think that it's possible with infra recorder though :/
12:24:52 <sar3th> hang on, i'm checking..
12:25:40 <Horusofoz> Would it fix it if I upgraded the user group to power user? On the oter hand would that make it so they could install software?
12:25:58 <sar3th> yeah, it could fix it
12:26:07 <sar3th> normally power users cannot install software iirc
12:26:38 <sar3th> hang on
12:26:45 <sar3th> http://infrarecorder.org/faq/#using1
12:28:25 <sar3th> http://www.nero.com/redir.php?id=4554
12:28:36 <sar3th> Horusofoz: try installing that (=nero burn rights)
12:29:52 <Horusofoz> How much does it modify the system? I have a couple Neros but haven't installed as its so bloated and modifies the system as I understand it.
12:30:21 <sar3th> it's only the burn rights tool, so there shoudl be no bloat in it
12:30:29 <sar3th> if you wait ~5 minutes, i can test it for you
12:30:38 <sar3th> just need to boot my vm :)
12:32:22 <Horusofoz> I can wait and thanks :)
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12:32:43 <sar3th> okay, installed it Horusofoz, no bloat :)
12:32:48 <sar3th> hi rmccue! :D
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12:34:13 <Horusofoz> sar3th: Can you tell how much it modifies the system?
12:35:13 <sar3th> installs a .cpl and that seems to be it
12:35:32 <Horusofoz> what is a .cpl
12:36:00 <sar3th> a new icon in the control panel
12:36:17 <Horusofoz> Ok I'm giving it a try.
12:37:00 <sar3th> if you want, i can regshot it though i don't think that'll help much
12:37:15 <Horusofoz> couldn't hurt :)
12:37:45 <sar3th> k
12:39:52 <sar3th> should i remove unnecessary entries?
12:40:11 <sar3th> that is windows keys which are not modified by the installer but by windows
12:40:49 <Horusofoz> a dump is fine
12:41:17 <Horusofoz> Can I ask what is the version number you downloaded?
12:41:38 <sar3th> http://www.nero.com/redir.php?id=4554
12:41:44 <sar3th> that is for v6 iirc
12:41:46 <sar3th> http://sar3th.pastebin.com/m6a80bad8
12:42:17 <sar3th> nero burn rights version 1.0.0.12
12:43:55 <Horusofoz> Cool. I have to reboot to test the results. Ciao
12:44:09 <sar3th> bye
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12:55:36 <rmccue|afk> Hey, did you hear about that actress that got killed recently? Reese someone...
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13:43:38 <Mike> Hi
13:43:47 <sar3th> hi Mike
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13:46:19 <[Mike]> I did install Java Portable. And I was to believe it would work. But it does not
13:46:24 <[Mike]> How come
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13:47:46 <sar3th> you need java portable and the java portable launcher for it to work
13:47:52 <sar3th> java portable: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
13:47:59 <sar3th> java portable launcher: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable_launcher
13:48:19 <[Mike]> But I have installed it om me USB flash drive then what
13:48:24 <[Mike]> on
13:48:25 <[Mike]> my
13:48:31 <sar3th> both files?
13:48:44 <sar3th> java portable and java portable launcher?
13:51:14 <[Mike]> I did stop using java Portable. Because it did not work it was aasking for the real java. And yes I have now installed java portable and java portable launcher Because I believe it will still not work. So what is the point then. I just installed it when I find out how to make it work right
13:51:44 <sar3th> normally you install both and then you run the launcher
13:52:19 <[Mike]> Why?
13:52:42 <[Mike]> Why do I need the launcher
13:52:56 <[Mike]> Why not just using the java
13:53:03 <sar3th> because you need to tell your java applications to actually use the portable java
13:53:06 <[Mike]> That is just what I reaaly wante
13:53:21 <sar3th> portable java is not leaving anything on your system
13:53:29 <sar3th> how can any program then detect it?
13:53:34 <sar3th> the answer is, it cannot
13:53:39 <sar3th> thus, we have the launcher
13:54:47 <[Mike]> So is it just the easy just add the java apps main icon?
13:55:19 <[Mike]> that not the
13:55:46 <sar3th> just run the launcher and select your .jar file
13:56:35 <[Mike]> Where can I find it
13:57:00 <sar3th> normally in the folder of the application you are trying to launch
13:57:53 <[Mike]> So I just use the launcher and not touching the java portable
13:58:03 <sar3th> yes
13:58:39 <[Mike]> I am gonna try
13:59:07 <[Mike]> And see if it work
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14:00:07 <[Mike]> Is it legel to use youtube downloaders to download videos for personal use?
14:01:08 <[Mike]> I am gonna go now. But have a nice day
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20:14:38 <GizmoBot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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