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02:52:07 <Chazz> happycid3, happy today? :P
02:52:38 <happycid3> v.
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03:14:33 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
03:14:52 <Chazz> howdy TimClark :)
03:15:04 <TimClark> go to sleep
03:15:24 <Chazz> -_-
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03:15:44 <Whibo> :P
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05:08:50 <TheTosh> hey sup
05:13:00 <TheTosh> Once
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06:42:09 <pa_3996> Hi
06:42:16 <TheTosh> hello
06:42:39 <pa_3996> I have a query about adding new apps which are not available in portable apps menu
06:42:47 <TheTosh> oh right
06:42:57 <TheTosh> Tims Your BEst Bet
06:43:09 <TheTosh> to ask
06:43:17 <pa_3996> for e.g., I got a Foxit reader portable which is not available in portable apps, and now how to add it in the
06:43:26 <pa_3996> portable apps application launcher menu ?
06:43:40 <TheTosh> umm. Ask Tim when he comes online
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06:44:30 <pa_3996> anybody corrently online can give a solution ?
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07:19:21 <chenwei> Hi, is GnuCash Portable developed by GnuCash.org?
07:19:44 <chenwei> GnuCash.org and portableapps.com?
07:22:06 <chenwei> Why there is no any link to portableapps.com at Gnucash.org?
07:24:45 <chenwei> help?
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07:26:41 <chenwei> ：（
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11:01:35 <TheTosh> WHERES TIM!?!?!?
11:02:06 <Chazz> rmccue, hi! o/
11:02:15 <rmccue> o/
11:02:40 <Chazz> how goes it rmccue?
11:03:01 <rmccue> It goes good, "Chazz"
11:03:18 <Chazz> Awesome "rmccue"
11:03:22 <rmccue> :P
11:03:32 <Chazz> heh :P
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12:08:12 <SteveLamerton> Hello everyone :)
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12:31:53 <Horusofoz> Spam Alert - http://portableapps.com/user/124959
12:33:35 <SteveLamerton> Thanks Horusofoz
12:36:26 <Horusofoz> Adios and good night :)
12:37:41 <SteveLamerton> Bye :)
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13:12:58 <SteveLamerton> Heya Gizmokid2005
13:13:29 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
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14:28:58 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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14:36:08 <SteveLamerton> Wb Gizmokid2005, heya OliverK
14:36:15 <OliverK> heya SteveLamerton
14:36:16 <Gizmokid2005> thanks SteveLamerton
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15:37:11 <pa_7540> como agrupar icono de menu
15:38:38 <pa_7540> como agrupar iconos de programas son muchos
15:38:59 <pa_7540> como organizar los icon os
15:40:14 <Gizmokid2005> Esta habitación es principalmente las personas que hablan Inglés. Conseguí esta respuesta a través de Google Translate.
15:41:04 <pa_7540> ok
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15:47:02 <pa_2105> hey guys, I'm getting "Windows cannot access the device, path or file" when installing PortableApps. any ideas?
15:47:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2105: are you trying to install it to your flash drive?
15:47:53 <pa_2105> it's just on my desktop - I don't even get to choose the install location
15:48:49 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, so it's actually having problems reading the installer?
15:48:53 <pa_2105> right
15:49:22 <Gizmokid2005> can you delete the file?
15:49:33 <pa_2105> prolly. Should I?
15:51:18 <Gizmokid2005> I would try it
15:51:21 <Gizmokid2005> and download it again
15:51:30 <Gizmokid2005> it sounds like windows just doen't like the file for whatever reason.
15:52:02 <pa_2105> ok, I'll give that a shot, thanks
15:52:09 <Gizmokid2005> no problem pa_2105
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16:27:24 <pa_2105> Hey Gizmokid... deleted, re-downloaded, same issue :(
16:30:09 <Gizmokid2005> try saving it to a different location
16:30:13 <Gizmokid2005> like my docs or something
16:30:33 <OliverK> do the md5's verify?
16:31:05 <pa_2105> how would I check that Oliver?
16:31:48 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/winmd5sum_portable
16:31:55 <OliverK> download\install somewhere
16:32:14 <OliverK> then run the program and drag'ndrop your download onto the window
16:32:27 <OliverK> which file are you downloading?
16:32:40 <pa_2105> the full suite
16:32:46 <OliverK> k
16:33:05 <pa_2105> trying to save it to my thumb drive instead
16:33:09 <pa_2105> see if that works
16:33:35 <OliverK> k
16:34:01 <OliverK> you'll see a little "slot" of srots, you can paste 4871c85e115ee14f525550331a111ae9 into that and then click compare
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17:04:24 <OliverK> .whois rmccue
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17:20:34 <OliverK> Release: Geany Portable Dev Test 3: http://tinyurl.com/celppl
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17:29:55 <B3ns4ws0m3> ?
17:29:57 <B3ns4ws0m3> oh TimClark i cant access my bnc
17:30:06 <B3ns4ws0m3> thats why there are 2 of me and i cant shut it down from here
17:30:11 <OliverK> howdy TimClark :D
17:30:11 <TimClark> shall i kick the other Bensawsome ?
17:30:21 <B3ns4ws0m3> TimClark he will just join back so i wouldnt bnother :/
17:30:24 <OliverK> B3ns4ws0m3: what's your BNC?
17:30:28 * OliverK bans!
17:30:32 <B3ns4ws0m3> OliverK i host it myself :P
17:30:41 <OliverK> what do you use, please :D
17:30:45 <B3ns4ws0m3> oh znc
17:30:51 <B3ns4ws0m3> lets go to ot
17:31:06 <OliverK> fair enough
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17:37:15 <pa_2193> Hi I just want to know how may I change the applications in my PortableApps Luncher?
17:37:23 <OliverK> the name?
17:37:40 <pa_2193> No I want to add links to files
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17:38:03 <pa_2193> Like I have a portable game that's not from Portable Apps
17:38:26 <OliverK> just install it to portableapps\game and restart the menu
17:38:28 <pa_2193> I want to add a link to the game Run.exe file
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17:39:59 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I have Firefox 3.5.2 portable and the past few times I have used it I get a message that says 3.5.3 is available. Do I go to Help>Check for Update and then click on Update Firefox the same way as you do with the version that you install on the hard drive or do you need to uninstall the portable version and install the new portable version.
17:40:17 <B3ns4ws0m3> no
17:40:24 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: just install the new version from our site
17:40:26 <Gizmokid2005> over the old version
17:40:29 <B3ns4ws0m3> all you have to do is download the version from our site
17:40:35 <B3ns4ws0m3> err ya what Gizmokid2005 said
17:40:52 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: it will preserve all your data. Just download our installer and install.
17:41:14 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> How soon is the new portable version available after Mozilla releases the update
17:41:42 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: usually the same day
17:41:47 <Gizmokid2005> not ALWAYS, but usually
17:42:21 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> If it is not the same day how many days after they release it is the new portable version available
17:42:49 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: usually its same day, though once in a while it might be up to two or three days
17:43:11 <pa_2193> Ok what I want to do Is to add a copy of the "run.exe" file in the portable platform how do I do it? cus I can't just drag and drop
17:45:02 <OliverK> ?
17:45:13 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I just install it to the same directory I have 3.5.2 on the flash drive and it will get rid of 3.5.2 and change it to 3.5.3 and all the add-ons I got from addons.mozilla.org will still be able to be used
17:45:30 <B3ns4ws0m3> yes SthrnDixieCwgrl
17:45:34 <OliverK> pa_2193: no, copy the game folder to the Portableapps folder and restart the menu
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17:48:09 <OliverK> pa_2193: if it has a directory structure, like
17:48:12 <OliverK> gamefolder
17:48:16 <OliverK> -----game.exe
17:48:19 <OliverK> it will work fine
17:48:56 <pa_2193> doesn't seem to work :\
17:49:23 <B3ns4ws0m3> pa_2193 is the game already portable? if it isn't it might not work
17:50:15 <pa_2193> Well I never had to instal it... You can trade the whore folder to anybody and just run the "run.exe" file and the game opens
17:50:53 <pa_2193> I call this portable...
17:51:15 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> Where do I get the .dll files for RealPlayer Media Player QuickTime Shockwave Flash Player Adobe Reader it keeps giving me a message saying it cannot find them depending on what site I go to
17:51:17 <B3ns4ws0m3> well as long as you can run it anywhere it should work. by work do you mean it isnt showing up in the menu?
17:51:34 <pa_2193> Yes thats what I mean
17:52:18 <B3ns4ws0m3> oh ok
17:52:42 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I will find my answer somewhere else
17:53:12 <B3ns4ws0m3> ok so is the exe file in X:\PortableApps\GameNamePortable\game.exe ?
17:53:12 <B3ns4ws0m3> where X is the drive letter of your usb drive?
17:53:16 <pa_2193> Is their just a hidden file or a "super hidden file" I can modify and just add a link to the "run.exe." file?
17:53:26 <B3ns4ws0m3> SthrnDixieCwgrl some work in portable firefox and some don't
17:53:29 <pa_2193> humm hold on...
17:53:39 <B3ns4ws0m3> pa_2193 no there isnt unforunately
17:53:46 <B3ns4ws0m3> i know adobe flash player works
17:53:50 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> Where do I get the .dll files and what folder do I put them in
17:54:03 <B3ns4ws0m3> SthrnDixieCwgrl in fact in the forums there is a installer for the flash player. one second ill find it
17:54:38 <pa_2193> okk so the file is : x:\PortableApps\Risk\run.cmd
17:54:42 <B3ns4ws0m3> ooooh
17:54:44 <B3ns4ws0m3> ok
17:54:47 <pa_2193> I want to see the Run.cmd in my menu
17:54:50 <B3ns4ws0m3> cmd files wont show up in the menu
17:55:00 <B3ns4ws0m3> the menu only detects exe files
17:55:02 <pa_2193> okk I need to make a .exe file then
17:55:17 <pa_2193> okk thank you ill make it work then :-p
17:55:24 <B3ns4ws0m3> no prob :)
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17:55:37 <B3ns4ws0m3> ok now ill find that thing for you SthrnDixieCwgrl
17:55:38 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I have Firefox 3.5.3 installed to the internal hard drive on one laptop but not on the other. Can I copy the dll files in that plugin folder and paste them the a folder that is in the Firefox directory on the flash drive
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17:56:21 <B3ns4ws0m3> yes you can
17:56:30 <B3ns4ws0m3> ill find out where the dll's and such are
17:57:07 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/node/15501
17:57:19 <B3ns4ws0m3> thank you OliverK :) SthrnDixieCwgrl look at that link
17:58:06 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> B3ns4ws0m3 if you know where on the hard drive they are save to and I can copy them the the directory on the flash drive that would make it some much easier
17:59:06 <B3ns4ws0m3> SthrnDixieCwgrl im not sure. all i know is that the link which OliverK is a small installer for the flash player. i really do not know where real player quicktime etc are.
17:59:20 <OliverK> i don't either
17:59:28 <B3ns4ws0m3> plus im on my mac right now so i cant really look :/
17:59:44 <B3ns4ws0m3> they arent all in one directory
17:59:58 <B3ns4ws0m3> they are all their own plugins and im pretty sure are in separate directories
18:00:21 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> When I open the Firefox folder on the flash drive there is a Data App and Other folders. What folder do the plugins go in
18:01:29 <OliverK> data\plugins
18:02:03 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I see that now. I cannot read
18:02:30 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> Does it matter if I get the x86 or the x64 version of the plugins
18:02:58 <B3ns4ws0m3> you should probably get the x86 version as thats what most computers are these days
18:03:59 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I have 2 laptops both running Windows Home Premium SP2 and one is x86 and one is x64.
18:04:11 <B3ns4ws0m3> oh
18:04:20 <B3ns4ws0m3> well... you can't have both...
18:04:40 <B3ns4ws0m3> i mean both versions of the plugins :/
18:06:15 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I mainly use Firefox portable with x64. Is there 64-bit versions of Flash/RealPlayer/Media Player/Adobe Reader/QuickTime/Shockwave for Firefox
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18:06:53 <B3ns4ws0m3> im really not sure as all my computers are x86... i would hope there are. But i'm really not sure :/
18:07:24 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I know there is not a 64-bit version of iTunes
18:10:20 <B3ns4ws0m3> hmmm
18:11:06 <B3ns4ws0m3> SthrnDixieCwgrl we are talking about it trying to figure it out
18:11:47 <B3ns4ws0m3> ok SthrnDixieCwgrl well usually x86 programs work on x64 machines. so your best bet would be to use the x86 versions of the plugins
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18:22:45 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> but 64-bit stuff will not work with Windows x96
18:22:48 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> x86
18:23:06 <Chazz> correct.
18:25:33 <B3ns4ws0m3> but most x86 apps will work on x64. now i must go for a bit. im sure other people here will help
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18:26:43 <Neoman> Hi everyone
18:26:52 <kai_62656> hi Neoman
18:26:55 <Chazz> Hi Neoman
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18:28:04 <Neoman> is there a portable safari?
18:28:12 <kai_62656> not officialy
18:28:14 <OliverK> npe
18:28:15 <Chazz> No.
18:29:41 <Neoman> kai_62656: any unofficial releases?
18:30:10 <kai_62656> Neoman: I dont know
18:30:19 <Chazz> Neoman, nope.
18:30:21 <Neoman> ok
18:32:21 <Neoman> i'm trying to updated FFP and the installation tells me "error opening file for writing"
18:33:43 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> Safari 4.0.3 Multilingual Portable - http://www.downarchive.com/software/portable/36330-portable-safari-403-multilingual.html
18:34:12 <kai_62656> SthrnDixieCwgrl: not in PA format I think
18:34:33 <Chazz> And not /legal/ either.
18:34:50 <OliverK> s/legal/illegal/
18:35:00 <OliverK> i can do rexexp to! :p
18:35:04 <OliverK> well, sorta :(
18:35:07 <Chazz> OliverK, no, it IS illegal, it's not not legal. :P
18:35:22 <OliverK> no, I mean the regexp is sorta :p
18:35:25 <Chazz> lol
18:35:32 <OliverK> crap, s is sort
18:35:38 <OliverK> so, r/legal/illegal/
18:35:39 <OliverK> :D
18:35:45 <Chazz> lol, nice
18:36:56 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> Safari 4.0.3 Multilingual Portable - http://www.downarchive.com/software/portable/36330-portable-safari-403-multilingual.html
18:37:14 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> unzip the rar file and install the paf file wherever you want
18:37:23 <B3ns4ws0m3> ya thats illegal dude....
18:37:32 <Chazz> SthrnDixieCwgrl, thats illegal.
18:37:53 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: that is an illegal link
18:37:59 <Gizmokid2005> you cannot make apps like that.
18:38:14 <Gizmokid2005> it's against the license
18:38:22 <Gizmokid2005> and illegal to redistribute.
18:39:08 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> I use it
18:39:21 <OliverK> that's fine for you
18:39:26 <OliverK> but we won't support it
18:39:27 <kai_62656> ...Not for me
18:39:27 <B3ns4ws0m3> lol and you are doing something illegal then ;)
18:39:33 <Chazz> Thats very nice SthrnDixieCwgrl, it's still illegal.
18:39:36 <kai_62656> yes
18:39:37 <Gizmokid2005> SthrnDixieCwgrl: it's not legal to redistribute.
18:39:39 <OliverK> we won't support you for using something illegal
18:39:48 <OliverK> therefore, please quit talking about it
18:39:58 <SthrnDixieCwgrl> then I am doing something illegal by using a portable version of Firefox
18:40:03 <kai_62656> no
18:40:05 <Chazz> No.
18:40:10 <kai_62656> the license is diffrent
18:40:18 <OliverK> no, becuase PortableApps.com has permission from Mozilla to redistrubute it
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18:40:20 <B3ns4ws0m3> no. firefox is legal to distribute because we got explicit permission from them
18:40:30 <TimClark> guys, stop steeping on each other
18:40:31 <OliverK> AND the license is different
18:40:34 <kai_62656> yea
18:41:13 <TimClark> so, what else is happening that is portableapps related
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18:46:37 <Neoman> http://img147.imageshack.us/i/20090925214122.png/
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18:47:28 <sar3th> Neoman: 256 characters path issue (windows' fault)#
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18:48:06 <Neoman> and .. how can i fix this?
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18:48:25 <sar3th> install to a different path
18:48:35 * Neoman trying
18:48:50 <sar3th> "F:\papps\Firefox Portable" for example
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18:51:26 <Neoman> only safari and miranda now
18:51:55 <Neoman> i tried now and still doesn't want to continue
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18:54:47 <sar3th> try restarting the installer
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18:55:10 <andreasma> hi
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18:57:03 <ZachThibeau> qwertymodo:
18:57:06 <ZachThibeau> hi
18:57:24 <sar3th> hi andreasma
18:57:47 <andreasma> hi ZachThibeau sar3th
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19:12:34 <OliverK> laters guys
19:12:37 <OliverK> time to go home
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22:07:29 <pa_1290> how do you instal new apps
22:08:06 <Chazz> download and run the installer
22:08:17 <pa_1290> and than
22:08:41 <ptmb> Hello pa_1290! Installing new apps is very simple, go to the site and download the installers, then run them and install them on any place you want, as the apps run from a single folder, if you then want to unninstall them you just need to delete that folder
22:08:43 <Chazz> do what the installer says
22:10:30 <pa_1290> but he dos'nt stand into the menu
22:10:41
22:10:51 <Chazz> pa_1290, refresh the menu
22:11:29 <pa_1290> stil not
22:12:00 <ptmb> if you want the app to appear on the menu, install them to "[your menu path]/PortableApps/[Appname]"
22:12:13 <ptmb> when it is done installing, open the menu
22:12:39 <ptmb> go to the sidebar button "Tools" or "Settings", I'm not sure
22:12:50 <ptmb> and then press "Refresh Apps Icons"
22:13:01 <ptmb> the new apps should appear on the menu immediatly
22:13:16 <pa_1290> oke I should loke
22:14:15 <ptmb> sorry pa_1290, I didn't understood what you meant
22:15:04 <pa_1290> he don't do it
22:15:24
22:15:36 <ptmb> oh... can you tell me the path to your menu executable please?
22:16:00
22:16:08 <pa_1290> D:\PortableApps
22:16:52 <ptmb> pa_1290, what folders are in that directory?
22:17:21 <pa_1290> the software what are ready been instald
22:17:54 <ptmb> ok, did you install the apps you want in that place?
22:18:27 <pa_1290> yes
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22:18:55 <ptmb> so your apps are in D:\PortableApps\[Appname]\ ?
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22:18:56 <pa_1290> can you yust only apps from this site
22:19:29 <pa_1290> ?
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22:19:37 <ptmb> pa_1290, although it isn't reccomended to install portable apps from other sites, due to the chances of not being trully portable, you can install them if you want
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22:20:09 <ptmb> just make sure there is only 1 executable on the app folder when installed so not multiple executables (some useless) appear on the menu
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