IRC Log from 2009-09-27
00:15:37 <gluxon> Huh?
00:16:21 <gluxon> Wait...
00:16:27 <gluxon> My launcher didn't use the local java?
00:16:36 <gluxon> :(
00:16:44 <gluxon> ... wait.. yeah it does..
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02:14:08 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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02:33:37 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
02:35:01 <Chazz> 'ello TimClark :)
02:35:43 <TimClark> not in a mood to play with you tonight Chazz
02:35:55 <Chazz> Ok, sorry.
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08:07:15 <Fred_> Hi
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08:12:27 <[Fred]> I have Java Portable and Java Portable Launcher. And I did wante to try out VLC Skin Editor that version out a installer. and I used Java Portable Launcher and did click on VLCSkinEditor.jar and the software did open but it looks funny
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08:49:08 <[Fred]> Any body here
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09:08:03 <rmccue> Nope, no bodies.
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11:10:32 <Jahweh> Some one help me. How to add a software that is not from portableapps.com to the apptableapps platform menu? thanks
11:10:58 <MaienM|Sleep> Jahweh: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
11:15:21 <Jahweh> oh,thank you very much.
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13:12:29 <pa_8479> what is CTCP?
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13:19:49 <digitxp> Hi!
13:19:56 <digitxp> What's a live installer?
13:26:29 <pa_8479> help!
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13:38:36 <MaienM> digitxp: a live installer is an installer that does not include all files needed, but instead downloads them when installing. This is needed to overcome certain licensing issues that do not allow us to redistribute/modify certain files, if I remember correctly.
13:39:04 <MaienM> pa_8479: what do you need help with?
13:51:10 <digitxp> thanks
14:00:24 <pa_8479> I want to move the Portable Apps installation to a different drive. Can I just copy it there or do I need to install again?
14:00:51 <sar3th> you can just copy it pa_8479
14:01:07 <pa_8479> thanks
14:01:34 <pa_8479> what is CTCP?
14:02:34 <sar3th> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-to-client_protocol
14:05:26 <pa_8479> ok thanks, but I don't know my CTCP VERSION. freenode@freenode/bot/connect requested it.
14:05:34 <sar3th> that's okay
14:05:41 <sar3th> you can ignore that message
14:05:48 <pa_8479> thanks, bye
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14:47:59 <iTroll> o_O
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15:49:55 <pa_9750> pa_9750
15:50:05 <sar3th> hello pa_9750
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15:50:16 <pa_9750> how do i use this
15:50:20 <pa_9750> now it works
15:50:44 <sar3th> yes, do you have any question or problems you'd like some help on?
15:50:56 <pa_9750> yes, just a second
15:51:43 <pa_9750> the portable apps page says "Plus, thanks to the PortableApps.com launcher bundled in the Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition, it leaves no personal information behind on the machine you run it on"
15:51:59 <pa_9750> does it leave any browsing history on the computer
15:52:41 <sar3th> no, all data is stored in the folder of the portableapp
15:52:57 <pa_9750> where is the folder of the portable app
15:53:33 <sar3th> that depends on where you install it, for example X:\Firefox Portable
15:53:56 <pa_9750> do you mean the device
15:54:04 <sar3th> yes
15:54:11 <pa_9750> then the history is there
15:54:17 <pa_9750> someone can still get it
15:54:58 <sar3th> yes, but you can delete the folder of Firefox Portable, so the history cannot be read by anyone
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15:55:46 <pa_9750> a file or folder that is deleted is still on a computer or device, deleting just means that the space that the file occupied is not available for use
15:56:03 <pa_9750> *now available
15:56:09 <pa_9750> i meant to say "now"
15:56:28 <MaienM> pa_9750: if you install FireFoxPortable to an usb drive it will not be possible to read its history unless the USB drive is still attached to the computer. What is meant by "will not be left behind" means that once you leave (and take your USB with you) the data will not be on the host computer anymore.
15:56:28 <sar3th> you can overwrite the free space on a disk with tools, so the file is really deleted
15:57:00 <pa_9750> if a person has tools
15:57:07 <pa_9750> i don't know which tools those are
15:58:27 <pa_9750> what are those tools
15:59:44 <sar3th> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_wipe
16:01:42 <pa_9750> ok
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19:19:37 <digitxp> *cricket*
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19:23:14 <Fred_> Hi
19:23:26 <sar3th> hi Fred_
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19:24:32 <[Fred]> I was there before and i needed support but nobody was online
19:24:39 <[Fred]> here
19:26:14 <[Fred]> Is anybody here?
19:26:52 <MaienM> [Fred]: yes, what can we help with?
19:27:15 <[Fred]> Waite. Let me type it in
19:35:43 <[Fred]> I wanted to use VLC Skin Editor ( Edition without the installer) I have installed Java Portable and Java Portable Launcher. But my java softwares looks funny. I did use Java Portable Launcher and I did click on VLCSkinEditor.jar the software did open but it looks funny. And I did try to use some other java software. But they did not work ar all.What is the problem?
19:36:39 <Gizmokid2005> [Fred]: are you trying to launch them using the Java Portable Launcher?
19:36:45 <Gizmokid2005> and what do you mean it "looks funny"?
19:37:29 <[Fred]> waite
19:38:00 <MaienM> Well I'm not really sure, I've never used Java Portable. However, it should work like the normal version so it sounds like the problem is with the VLCSkinEditor.jar program rather than with Java Portable. Have you tried to run VLCSkinEditor.jar with a locally installed version of java, and if you have, did it work normally?
19:40:05 <[Fred]> Yes I did and it looks likes this MENU_FILE MENU_EDIT MENU_HELP besides the screen name on VLC Skin Editor
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19:42:51 <[Fred]> Yes and did and it did
19:43:03 <[Fred]> Yes I did and it did do that
19:43:08 <Gizmokid2005> it looked the same in both the local version and the portable version?
19:44:28 <[Fred]> dont know I was at public library and I did not look
19:45:02 <Gizmokid2005> [Fred]: that would be helpful, if you can check, because it sounds like it's an issue with the app itself
19:47:42 <[Fred]> Alright. I can look tomorrow after work
19:48:24 <[Fred]> So what do you think can be the issue
19:48:55 <Gizmokid2005> [Fred]: well, if it does it the same with a local installed version of Java, it's an issue with the VLCSkinEditor
19:49:03 <Gizmokid2005> if not, then we'd have to dig into it more.
19:49:11 <Gizmokid2005> but the behavior should be identical
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19:52:11 <[Fred]> I did try to use a java software called Mercury Mesenger to try out http://mercury.im/ could not find the jar file
19:53:01 <[Fred]> I am gonna go now. See you next time
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20:20:42 <jackjustin> hi guys, have not been around for a while, i have a question about the portable java
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20:25:59 <jackjustin> anyone around who knows about the portable java?
20:30:18 <jackjustin> anyone around at all?
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20:31:14 <MaienM> jackjustin: yeah, I'm here
20:31:25 <MaienM> I'm afraid I don't know much about portable java though
20:31:33 <MaienM> but ask away, I might be able to answer
20:32:01 <jackjustin> hi MaienM, this might be easy, is it true that it will not work with firefox portable yet
20:32:26 <MaienM> if I remember correctly, thats true
20:32:36 <jackjustin> rats
20:33:12 <jackjustin> if i read it correctly it will only work with apps designed for it, is that true
20:33:14 <MaienM> nope, it doesn't work with ffp yet
20:33:26 <MaienM> from the java portable page: "Note that Firefox currently requires a local JVM, but we're working on it."
20:33:44 <MaienM> yep, the launcher needs to detect the presence of java portable and use it
20:33:55 <jackjustin> that is the app must be able to look for java portable instead of the local
20:34:02 <MaienM> yep
20:34:22 <MaienM> in theory all our official apps using java should work with the portable version
20:34:27 <jackjustin> so at the moment are there any apps that do that
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20:36:28 <MaienM> I'm not entirely sure which of our apps use java....
20:36:58 <Gizmokid2005> jackjustin: the main app I know of that uses Java Portable is OpenOffice.org
20:37:06 <Gizmokid2005> Eclipse portable (which hasn't been released)
20:37:13 <Gizmokid2005> and RSSOwl Portable (which also hasn't been released)
20:37:25 <jackjustin> short list :P
20:37:33 <Gizmokid2005> there may be another one here or there in the beta testing, but OpenOffice.org Portable is the only official one I know of
20:37:37 <Gizmokid2005> jackjustin: yeah, for now
20:37:52 <jackjustin> thanks for the info
20:38:19 <Gizmokid2005> np jackjustin
20:38:23 <jackjustin> i see you have a new bot, does he do what the old one did
20:40:40 <jackjustin> he did not greet me when i came in
20:42:01 <MaienM> he is capable of doing that too, but the greetings (defines) of the old one haven't been transfered to the new one
20:42:31 <jackjustin> MaienM it was def! or something like that i think
20:42:37 <MaienM> .def
20:42:37 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
20:42:55 <MaienM> that has to be done in #gizmokid2005 though
20:43:15 <jackjustin> thanks
20:44:06 <jackjustin> guess it would have worked better if i typed it right :P
20:44:23 <MaienM> :P
20:46:15 <Chazz> .def
20:46:16 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 :D
20:46:19 <Chazz> :P
20:46:37 <jackjustin> if i remember there is an other portableapps channel
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20:50:13 <jackjustin> do i remember right, is there another portableapps channel that is used sometimes
20:50:31 <Gizmokid2005> jackjustin: yes #portableapps-dev and #portableapps-ot
20:50:44 <Gizmokid2005> -ot is meant for off-topic conversations that don't relate to #portableapps
20:50:54 <jackjustin> #portableapps-ot that was it
20:50:57 <Gizmokid2005> :)
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21:00:03 <jackjustin> so i see things have changed alot at portableapps.com
21:10:54 <digitxp> I know
21:10:56 <digitxp> 1 year
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21:26:12 <jackjustin> bye MaienM|Sleep thanks for your help
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21:40:33 <digitxp> dbdii407:you there?
21:40:46 <dbdii407> No
21:41:47 <digitxp> okay, just wanted to make sure
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22:19:29 <GizmoBot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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22:20:59 <gluxon> ...
22:21:04 <gluxon> hope he comes back :(
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22:59:36 <digitxp> hi
22:59:48 <sar3th> hi digitxp
23:07:07 <digitxp> hey
23:07:16 <digitxp> turns out it wasn't opera's fault
23:07:20 <digitxp> that it crashed
23:07:25 <digitxp> probably Window Manager
23:07:33 <digitxp> or a kernel patch
23:07:45 <digitxp> I wanna make t his: http://whitehatblackbox.com/2009/03/how-to-make-a-moleskine-hipster-pda-case/
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23:49:36 <pa_8402> how to make portable using format .91
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