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00:28:39 <GizmoBot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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00:29:05 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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02:02:06 <rmccue> More like paLAMEbot, amirite?
02:13:59 <ZachThibeau> more like what the heck are you talking about
02:14:10 <ZachThibeau> hey rmccue whats happening
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02:15:26 <rmccue> ZachThibeau: Not much, sup wit chu? :P
02:15:37 <ZachThibeau> coding in c++
02:15:51 <ZachThibeau> coding a cross platformable media player :P
02:15:59 <ZachThibeau> and coding my own forum system in php
02:16:21 <ZachThibeau> and working as a Janitor too for 4 hours a day at a court complex
02:17:57 <rmccue> Fun!
02:18:21 <ZachThibeau> the price I pay for boredom
02:18:28 <ZachThibeau> and too much time on my hands
02:22:36 <ZachThibeau> anyways night all
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02:35:47 <taneth111> hai
02:35:59 <Chazz> hi!
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07:17:54 <pa_6251> anyone htere?
07:18:35 <pa_6251> anyone there? I have a quick question
07:19:10 <pa_6251> rmccue
07:19:18 <pa_6251> you there?
07:19:27 <pa_6251> anyone?
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07:22:51 <rmccue> Mmm?
07:22:53 <rmccue> -_-
07:23:00 <rmccue> My client *just* beeped.
07:35:06 <taneth111> that are lag^lag
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10:26:28 <pa_8607> help me abt nsis
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10:43:36 <shewe> hi
10:45:09 <shewe> is there anyone who know how to create new folder which is going to be read by portableapps.com platform?
10:46:13 <shewe> help!
10:46:14 <GizmoBot> shewe: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
10:46:14 <GizmoBot> shewe: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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11:43:37 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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11:44:01 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 :D
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12:41:09 <Darkbee> anyone home? Just checking out the channel.
12:42:34 <Darkbee> help!
12:42:34 <GizmoBot> Darkbee: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
12:42:48 <Darkbee> Nice.
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12:43:19 <Darkbee> Now,it'd be really nice if you could make me a cup of tea and fetch my pipe and slippers like a good bot.
12:43:39 <MaienM> I'm sorry but it cannot do that ;)
12:43:57 <Darkbee> lame! :)
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12:45:03 <MaienM> the good news is, it probably won't be (trying to) taking over the world anytime soon ;)
12:45:37 <Darkbee> Good point!
12:46:14 <Darkbee> Speaking of which, does anyone know of any portable traffic-light management software?
12:47:18 <Darkbee> Just kidding. Oh well, suppose I'd better do some work.
12:47:25 <Darkbee> bye all
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12:50:01 <Darkbee> Oh, I did have one last question...
12:50:30 <Darkbee> Which is better for portable apps, U2 or U3? Personally, I think the smart money is on Bono.
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12:51:34 <BigJim> hey all
12:51:47 <BigJim> quick question... where is the development beta for P/A suite?
12:52:09 <BigJim> I had it, and then stupidly reinstalled the older version
12:52:12 <BigJim> trying to get it back
12:52:18 <MaienM> BigJim: http://portableapps.com/node/20013
12:52:53 <BigJim> my hero!
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12:53:25 <BigJim> cool beans! thanks all!
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15:12:05 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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18:19:46 <GizmoBot> sar3th sets mode +ohai all
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18:35:58 <JohnTHaller> hola
18:36:12 <Bensawsome> nice JohnTHaller
18:36:19 <Bensawsome> and hey ^_^
18:36:22 <OliverK> hola!
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18:36:32 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
18:36:47 <JohnTHaller> so jamcomm has a one week ban.
18:36:48 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/node/20863#comment-128858
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18:36:55 <OliverK> thankyou :D
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18:36:56 <Bensawsome> ytep we saw :3
18:37:01 <Bensawsome> or some of us did
18:37:45 <JohnTHaller> I'm just tired of the circular reasoning and him being an ass. Heck, he's started posting all his comments in all BOLD just to be an ass. So, I'm done.
18:38:23 <OliverK> and we support you
18:39:03 <Bensawsome> yep
18:39:03 <ZachThibeau> in one of his posts to me I had to seriously sit on my hands to keep from trying to bite off his head
18:39:08 <OliverK> heh :D
18:39:11 <Bensawsome> lol
18:39:37 <Bensawsome> you have a lot of patience though JohnTHaller. I would have banned him permenantly a long time ago >_>
18:39:58 <Gizmokid2005> Hello JohnTHaller, and thanks.
18:40:30 <ZachThibeau> and oh great I think my znc is acting up
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18:42:13 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/node/20878
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18:42:34 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I know. He's entirely too annoying and seems quite troll-like much of the time.
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18:42:51 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I'm going to agree on that. There's been a lot of that going on, even on other forums, etc.
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18:43:33 <Bensawsome> obvious troll is obvious ¬_¬
18:43:44 <Bensawsome> lol sorry had to say it ;)
18:47:44 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... he already created jamcomm v2.0 and posted an annoying comment with it.
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18:49:23 <ZachThibeau> how rude :/
18:50:11 <JohnTHaller> I deleted it and disabled the account
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18:51:07 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: for the sake of the logs you should ban this nick Zach_Thibeau until shellium fixes the server
18:51:16 <Gizmokid2005> will do ZachThibeau
18:51:40 <ZachThibeau> thanks
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18:51:49 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: he's persistent, I get the feeling it'll be more than one dup created by him.
18:52:13 <pa_8609> Hello, can anyone kindly tell me, who to contact if I want to add our portable application to portableapps.com
18:52:14 <pa_8609> ?
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18:52:52 <UserNoUser> hi
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18:53:17 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: jamcomm II
18:53:21 <JohnTHaller> pa_8609: what kind of app is it?
18:53:24 <UserNoUser> is anybody there who has experience with JKdefrag
18:53:47 <pa_8609> it is available at http://www.newsoftwares.net/usb-secure/
18:53:57 <pa_8609> Please have a look and let me know
18:56:59 <UserNoUser> lol
18:57:02 <UserNoUser> nobody
18:57:51 <Gizmokid2005> UserNoUser: sorry, ask your question
18:58:53 <JohnTHaller> pa_8609: We only list apps in PortableApps.com Format that work within our platform. I don't think your apps is meant to be used like that.
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19:00:21 <pa_8609> JohnTHaller: well we can modify it accordingly, if you wish we don't autorun the application on USB drive plug-in, we can remove this feature and release a PortableApp compatible version
19:00:26 <JohnTHaller> pa_8609: Also, I see no mention of encryption on the description page, is it just a file hider?
19:00:33 <pa_8609> Let me know if you would help me with regards to that
19:01:12 <pa_8609> Its a hider / locker, though it goes beyond hiding and locking by manipulating with user's data so that it can protect on all Oses
19:01:24 <pa_8609> a refinded version with encryption will be released tomorrow
19:01:42 <pa_8609> and that's the reason I am contacting here, I want it to be included in Portable Apps
19:02:13 <JohnTHaller> We're building in hiding/protecting to the PA.c Platform in the next release after 2.0, so that wouldn't really be a good fit on that end. But an encryption app you can run from the platform would be a good fit.
19:03:30 <JohnTHaller> The info on the format is here: http://portableapps.com/development
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19:03:49 <pa_8609> how are you going to to hide/lock the data, is it going to protect accross all OSes
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19:06:49 <JohnTHaller> same way as the other hider/lockers. there are only a few tricks available. the only reason it's not in the platform yet is because I've been trying to figure out how to include it but be sure the end user knows it's not real security (aka encryption), just security by obscurity.
19:07:42 <JohnTHaller> So, we have to be sure it's presented to the user so they understand that and can decide if it's good enough for their needs.
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19:08:10 <GizmoBot> sar3th sets mode +ohai all
19:08:54 <JohnTHaller> pa_8609: When you're working on the encryption app, if you need help, we have a development forum in addition to those links on the development page. And when you're ready, you can reach us here: http://portableapps.com/about/contact
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19:09:53 <pa_8609> BTW, do you accept Shareware applications?
19:10:06 <pa_8609> or is that restricted to free?
19:10:44 <andreasma> hi
19:10:55 <JohnTHaller> We will shortly. We're doing just open source ourselves at the moment. We're starting with freeware next. Then we'll announce commercial software. Freeware can use our tools (installer, etc) for free. Commercial there will be a small % of sales fee.
19:11:01 <JohnTHaller> hi andreasma
19:11:12 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, hi JohnTHaller
19:11:31 <JohnTHaller> jamcomm now has a permanent ban. He created 4 accounts after his temporary ban.
19:11:33 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, FYI I got a slot for OOoP at the next OOoCon.
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19:11:34 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
19:11:45 <JohnTHaller> andreasma: Good to hear :-)
19:12:03 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
19:12:23 <SteveLamerton> Hey ZachThibeau, JohnTHaller, Gizmokid2005, MaienM, all :)
19:12:54 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
19:13:07 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
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19:13:24 <GizmoBot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
19:13:44 <pa_8609> JohnTHaller: but do you accept Shareware apps? I am not talkinf about the PA right now but other third party software that are submitted?
19:13:52 <pa_8609> should they be free?
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19:14:57 <JohnTHaller> brb... phone...
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19:18:15 <SteveLamerton> I like the way everyone keeps quiet while John is on the phone ;)
19:18:40 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: I know, people are so curteous right?
19:19:19 <SteveLamerton> So it seems Gizmokid2005 :)
19:35:12 <pa_8609> JohnTHaller: there? Please reply to my last question, thanks!
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19:46:27 <JohnTHaller> And I'm back...
19:46:59 <JohnTHaller> pa_8609: We will be accpeting freeware and commercial apps from 3rd parties soon. They'll need to be in PortableApps.com Format.
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19:53:22 <JohnTHaller> Ah, missed him
19:53:32 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: no, I think he didnt' like your response
19:57:30 <JohnTHaller> So, how many people think I waited too long to ban jamcomm?
19:59:25 * ZachThibeau raises hand
19:59:31 <ZachThibeau> slowly though
19:59:41 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I do as well, as I know a few other regulars
19:59:42 <ZachThibeau> didn't want to at first
20:00:00 <Gizmokid2005> I can think of half a dozen who did, but after you gave him the first warning.
20:00:14 <JohnTHaller> yeah, several folks had mentioned it to me individually
20:00:32 <Gizmokid2005> I would have, but you haven't been around, and I don't have you on MSN so.
20:00:44 <Gizmokid2005> I just hope, for his sake, he doesn't try to make trouble in here.
20:01:12 <JohnTHaller> well, he made 4 more accounts on PA.c after the temp ban
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20:01:19 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, I saw that.
20:03:10 <JohnTHaller> I saved his IP and the 4 acct details as well as his ISP's contact info.
20:03:20 <Gizmokid2005> good for you JohnTHaller :)
20:03:53 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller, I think it is good that you gave him a chance, I think the temp should have been perm initially, not that it made much difference in the end!
20:08:25 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I thought he may show his true colors when temp banned. I'd rather err on the side of too many chances than too few.
20:08:58 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Gizmokid2005, JohnTHaller, and SteveLamerton!
20:09:05 <SteveLamerton> Hello Oni-Neoxes
20:09:09 <JohnTHaller> hi
20:09:10 <Gizmokid2005> hello Oni-Neoxes
20:09:14 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: yeah, I agree there.
20:09:37 <JohnTHaller> Oh, I have releases waiting to go, but I'm waiting for our new code signing certificate. The old one expired 16 hours ago.
20:10:02 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: if it's not one thing its another, right?? lo
20:10:05 <Gizmokid2005> *lol
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21:41:43 <SilentWalker> hello everyone :D
21:41:46 <SilentWalker> its been a while
21:42:41 <SilentWalker> soo...i need some help
21:42:54 <Res2216firestar> ask away :)
21:42:54 <Chazz> with?
21:43:59 <SilentWalker> i have now made portable apps my staple on my home PC...i.e. PFF, PTB, etc although I have some of the original versions installed
21:44:10 <SilentWalker> I have used PFA for file associations but
21:44:45 <SilentWalker> I cannot find a way to associate all protocols that open with FF and/or IE to open with FFP
21:44:59 <SilentWalker> I am running Vista 32bit
21:45:04 <SilentWalker> any help?
21:45:08 <Gizmokid2005> SilentWalker: if you don't care, you can go into Tools > Options
21:45:17 <SilentWalker> I did that
21:45:21 <SilentWalker> it doesnt work
21:45:22 <Gizmokid2005> Then the advanced tab and general
21:45:23 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm
21:45:31 <Gizmokid2005> it might be in the launcher that john has that fixed...
21:45:45 <Gizmokid2005> it still opens with FF right?
21:45:53 <SilentWalker> it worked with TBP with mailto links...but thats as far as it goes
21:45:53 <Gizmokid2005> just not FFP?
21:45:54 <SilentWalker> no
21:46:01 <Gizmokid2005> Hmm
21:46:04 <SilentWalker> it opens either with the local FF or IE
21:46:09 <Gizmokid2005> right
21:46:11 <Gizmokid2005> it still opens FF
21:46:22 <SilentWalker> yea but not FFP
21:46:23 <Gizmokid2005> afaik, there's no way to set it to automatically open FFP
21:46:30 <Gizmokid2005> there may be some reg hacks to do it, but that I'm not sure of.
21:46:38 <SilentWalker> oh wait...i think i see something here
21:46:41 <SilentWalker> give me a sec
21:48:24 <SilentWalker> i think you can do it under control panel -> programs -> default programs -> associate a file type or protocal with a specific program
21:48:33 <SilentWalker> ill give it a try and report to you all
22:01:31 <SilentWalker> well its taking really long since the window reloads everytime after i change 1 association
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22:11:27 <SilentWalker> k so it didnt work......when i reached http|https|ftp protocols.... it only gave the option to choose from installed programs...not create a custiom association
22:11:34 <SilentWalker> and as for the other file associations
22:12:21 <SilentWalker> except MS Access files....whenever I browsed, eg. say to OO.o Writer portable for an association for .doc files
22:12:56 <SilentWalker> and doubled clicked on OO.oWP in the open dialogue box
22:13:25 <SilentWalker> the list of default programs comes up (you know how it is on Vista)...and OO.oWP is not on it
22:13:42 <SilentWalker> OO.oWP = OpenOffice.org Writer Portable
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22:36:39 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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22:44:26 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 :D
22:44:27 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 :D
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