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01:07:13 <newbie101> Hey all!
01:07:22 <Chazz> hello newbie101
01:07:47 <newbie101> I just downloaded Portable Apps and I was wondering if you can run iTunes on it?
01:08:16 <Chazz> No.
01:08:36 <Whibo> Yes.
01:08:45 <Whibo> just not portable :P
01:09:04 <newbie101> Hmm ok ... so what you're saying is that I can run it, but there's not a portable version of it?
01:09:17 <Whibo> yes
01:09:35 <newbie101> How do you install non-portables on PortableApps?
01:09:39 <Chazz> Well, if you just tried copying it in the way to make it PAP-compatible, it still wouldn't run 100% correctly.
01:09:54 <newbie101> ...could I sync my iPhone with it?
01:11:15 <Chazz> possibly. I don't know for sure.
01:11:43 <Chazz> You would need to be admin on any computer you try it on though, because you would need to install the iPhone drivers.
01:12:07 <Chazz> and, for installing applications to PAP: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
01:15:38 <newbie101> Thanks for your help, guys!
01:16:25 <Chazz> np :)
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01:40:28 <ChrisMorgan> Whibo: please don't offer unhelpful suggestions. No was the correct answer. What you said will be confusing to most people, and it doesn't present a nice front of unity and correct information and all that sort of thing...
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02:12:35 <Whibo> Wut
02:13:01 <Whibo> lol
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03:29:51 <Horusofoz> I come in peace
03:29:58 <Chazz> heya Horusofoz :)
03:30:00 <Horusofoz> Take me to your leader :p
03:30:08 <Horusofoz> Hey Chazz:)
03:30:12 <Chazz> lol
03:30:33 <Horusofoz> What's going on? Anything of note/
03:30:49 <Chazz> nope :P
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03:38:24 <Bensawsome> Horusofoz john aint here right now ;)
03:39:56 <Horusofoz> Bensawsome: ? What have I done now ?
03:40:11 <Bensawsome> <Horusofoz> Take me to your leader :p
03:40:19 <Bensawsome> john aint here right now :P
03:40:25 <Chazz> lol
03:40:46 <Horusofoz> lol
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03:51:53 <Horusofoz> Anyone tried out the new Microsoft Security Essentials?
03:52:16 <Chazz> nope
03:55:53 <Horusofoz> Anyone seen the mockups of the Gimp 2.8? Single window interface?
03:56:25 * Chazz hasn't seen those either :P
03:58:05 * Horusofoz thinks Portableapps.com has turned him into a geek. Problem with that is he doesn't know how to do squat
03:58:25 <Chazz> lol
03:58:43 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: google and trial/error
03:58:43 <Gizmokid2005> :)
04:00:30 <Horusofoz> Maybe. So far the most advanced thing I've learned to do is reinstall Windows/Ubuntu and use Clonezilla and GParted to make backups in case I significantly screw something up
04:02:18 <Gizmokid2005> that's a start
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05:45:28 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
05:45:38 <Chazz> heya ChrisMorgan :)
05:46:51 <ChrisMorgan> heya
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07:41:02 <ChrisMorgan> Spam: http://portableapps.com/node/20896
07:42:10 <Chazz> Yes... yes it is. :(
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07:53:10 <rmccue1> ChrisMorgan: Deleted, and user blocked.
07:53:28 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks
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09:11:29 <Horusofoz> Hey ChrisMorgan. how's work on GanttProject, Data Crow and Sweet Home 3d going?
09:11:45 <ChrisMorgan> Nothing happening with them at the moment; should something be?
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09:20:32 <Horusofoz> They've all received supposedly important updates
09:20:35 <Horusofoz> http://ganttproject.blogspot.com/2009/09/ganttproject-2010-is-released.html
09:20:40 <Horusofoz> http://www.sweethome3d.eu/blog/2009/09/30/sweet_home_3d_2_1.html
09:20:54 <Horusofoz> http://page2rss.com/5ea8f67fb56e4aacf8741c2e068d3906/4591583_4599902
09:21:24 <Horusofoz> Data 3.5.1 isn't so big but the 3.5 one is
10:10:50 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Wha... I subscribed to the GanttProject one...
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10:11:31 <ChrisMorgan> Well datacrow.net is currently down.
10:11:58 <ChrisMorgan> .def ganttproject
10:11:58 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: Sorry, but I don't know about ganttproject
10:14:12 <Horusofoz> Are you sure about data crow?
10:14:47 <ChrisMorgan> I have no idea about Data Crow. Its website is unavailable :-(
10:15:22 <Horusofoz> Must be your location as its accessible here
10:15:53 <ChrisMorgan> It's all timing out here. DNS OK, server not.
10:16:03 <ChrisMorgan> Just trying a tracert
10:16:41 <ChrisMorgan> In 14 steps it gets to te4-1.mpd01.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com and then collapses.
10:17:28 <ChrisMorgan> Local*2, optusnet*2, IP with no name, cogentco*9, timeouts
10:17:40 <ChrisMorgan> What's your tracert looking like?
10:17:52 <Horusofoz> Not sure what you mean but works in both chrome and firefox here
10:18:09 <ChrisMorgan> In Command Prompt, "tracert datacrow.net"
10:20:25 <Horusofoz> Completed step 17
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10:23:53 <Horusofoz> ChrisMorgan: I get a trace complete
10:24:06 <ChrisMorgan> Does it go through te4-1.mpd01.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com?
10:24:19 <ChrisMorgan> I expect it's a problem with some cogentco.com server.
10:24:37 <Horusofoz> does
10:24:43 <ChrisMorgan> What's the next one?
10:24:51 <ChrisMorgan> I'll see if I can ping it.
10:24:54 <ChrisMorgan> I probably can't.
10:25:17 <Horusofoz> nedlook_internet.demarc.cogneto.com
10:25:46 <ChrisMorgan> Can't even get a DNS record for it from here.
10:26:35 <ChrisMorgan> Hey, wait... _ in domain name? Not allowed
10:26:40 <ChrisMorgan> Sure that was it?
10:27:29 <Horusofoz> nedlook_internet.demarc.cogentco.com
10:27:52 <ChrisMorgan> Possibly something to do with it... weird..
10:27:54 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway.
10:27:59 <ChrisMorgan> I can't get it at the moment :D
10:28:27 <ChrisMorgan> For the moment I'll just see if I can get it from SF (think that was it)
10:28:41 <ChrisMorgan> Ah, yep, http://sourceforge.net/projects/datacrow/files/
10:29:36 <ChrisMorgan> Specifically, http://sourceforge.net/projects/datacrow/files/Production%20versions/3.5.1/datacrow_3_5_1_zipped.zip/download
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14:11:40 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
14:12:26 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
14:12:47 <SteveLamerton> Hi Gizmokid2005
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15:30:34 <Victor__> Hello there...
15:30:52 <sar3th> hi Victor__
15:31:26 <Victor__> Hi....I need to ask for some assistance using app compactor...
15:32:29 <Victor__> I have Autocad instaled in my computer, but need to know if I can compact this application...is this possible?...
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15:51:12 <Victor__> hello again...does anybody knows is it possible to compact Autodesk Autocad?..
15:51:12 <sar3th> hey Victor__, are you trying to compact autocad which you installed to your system?
15:51:39 <sar3th> i think it might be possible, but it's better not to since it might result in unexpected errors
15:51:54 <Victor__> ...sar3th.....yes...indeed....
15:53:04 <sar3th> if you want to try it , be aware that it might break it!
15:53:35 <Victor__> well...I need to try....what would be the worst case?...that it doesn't work as portable app?...
15:53:57 <sar3th> that it won't work as portable app is almost certain
15:54:34 <Victor__> what do you mean when you say it might break it?...
15:55:24 <sar3th> it might produce unexpected behaviour and many errors
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15:58:14 <Victor__> please correct me if I'm wrong....
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15:58:47 <Victor__> when I start app compactor it asks for an application to compress...
15:59:08 <Victor__> then I select the Autocad directory...
15:59:19 <Victor__> and hit go....
15:59:29 <Victor__> already did that...
16:00:14 <Victor__> but I don't see where the "compacted app" is...
16:00:35 <Victor__> I did not got any error msg...
16:01:06 <Victor__> already executed the application and run fine...no problem at all...
16:04:02 <sar3th> then it was compresses properly
16:04:22 <sar3th> if i recall correctly, it just compacts the directory given, no backup or anything
16:04:38 <Victor__> correct....
16:05:04 <Gizmokid2005> sar3th: yep
16:05:13 <Gizmokid2005> it will uncompact if you run it back through and use that option as well
16:06:46 <Victor__> the application directory is there...lots of files...but I just cant see how is this compacted...or what do I need to install in the thumb drive..
16:07:18 <Gizmokid2005> Victor__: it doesn't put things in a zip
16:07:24 <Gizmokid2005> it just compacts the actual files themselves
16:07:31 <Gizmokid2005> nothing gets moved, renamed, etc.
16:07:52 <sar3th> Victor__: compacting the app does /not/ make it portable
16:10:12 <Victor__> what do I need to do to make it portable?...
16:10:28 <Victor__> I mean...if that is possible?...
16:10:42 <MaienM> Victor__: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
16:11:01 <MaienM> that pretty much explains the process of making an app portable
16:11:03 <Victor__> ah-ha....thank you....
16:11:30 <Victor__> need to read it....thank you again...
16:14:08 <Victor__> Thanks for your assistance Sar3th...
16:14:15 <sar3th> no problem Victor__
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18:01:20 <Bensawsome> ok we _really_ need to put on the app compactors page that it does not make programs portable :/
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18:01:39 <alpha1beta> sup guys
18:02:13 <kai_62656> suo
18:02:15 <kai_62656> sup
18:02:39 <alpha1beta> I actually came here tobeg and grovel for help
18:03:44 <Bensawsome> yo alpha1beta :D
18:03:52 <alpha1beta> I'm writing an installer, a single zip file, the installer.nsi is in the same older..i got the shortcuts and stuff down, but what is the code to just include all the files from the directory
18:03:54 <Bensawsome> you finally decided to join us again :3
18:03:56 <alpha1beta> yo ben
18:04:13 <Bensawsome> hmmm darnit i wish i knew more ncis
18:04:14 <Bensawsome> err
18:04:17 <Bensawsome> LOL nsis
18:04:34 <alpha1beta> hehe, best. typo. ever.
18:04:39 <Bensawsome> mhmm :3
18:06:02 <alpha1beta> I have the 7zip portable.nsi that I'm using to look for the code I need, can't find it, anyone
18:06:06 <alpha1beta> ?
18:07:57 <alpha1beta> can I do it with !include \
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18:12:13 <GizmoBot> OliverK thinks he needs a new .def
18:13:02 <alpha1beta> Hey OliverK
18:13:26 <OliverK> 'ello
18:31:44 <andreasma> hi
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20:43:39 <andreasma> bye
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21:45:19 <gluxon> Anybody know how to reset a file's last activity details?
21:45:48 <Chazz> nope.
21:46:04 <gluxon> ... :(
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21:55:12 <pa_1241> any idea how I can add applications to the portable apps menu ?
21:55:44 <pa_1241> I have installed the bare menu app
21:55:46 <gluxon> Just install them.
21:55:55 <pa_1241> to which directory ?
21:56:02 <gluxon> The default one.
21:56:09 <pa_1241> to get them to appea in the menu ?
21:56:18 <Chazz> pa_1241, http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
21:56:19 <gluxon> If you have installed the menu, it will automatically have the right folder entered for youj.
21:56:25 <pa_1241> hmm
21:56:26 <gluxon> *you
21:56:48 <gluxon> Just download our PortableApps from the Applications section of our site and install :)
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21:57:09 <Chazz> pa_1241, see the link I posted.
21:57:48 <pa_1241> thanks Chazz
21:58:00 <Chazz> np
21:58:07 <pa_1241> glxon Chazz understood what I was talking about...
21:58:23 <pa_1241> thanks for your help as well gluxon
21:58:37 <gluxon> ?
21:58:47 <Chazz> hmm?
21:58:48 <gluxon> Oh..
21:59:00 <gluxon> You weren't asking for adding PAF apps?
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21:59:11 <Chazz> or, adding apps in general
22:00:50 <pa_1241> correct
22:00:57 <pa_1241> its done woohoo :)
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22:56:19 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
22:56:19 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
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23:28:48 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
23:29:20 <Chazz> Hi ChrisMorgan :D
23:31:17 <ZachThibeau> hi ChrisMorgan
23:31:29 <ChrisMorgan> Hi ChrisMorgan, hi ZachThibeau
23:31:36 <ZachThibeau> xD
23:31:51 <ZachThibeau> tab completion issues ChrisMorgan?
23:31:55 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, do you normally talk to yourself? :P
23:32:06 <ChrisMorgan> :/
23:32:30 <ChrisMorgan> Hi ChrisMorgan.
23:32:35 <ChrisMorgan> How are you today ChrisMorgan?
23:32:40 <ChrisMorgan> Dead.
23:32:45 <ZachThibeau> :(
23:32:48 <ZachThibeau> tired?
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23:33:02 <Chazz> lol
23:33:06 <ZachThibeau> O_o
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23:33:09 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
23:33:09 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
23:33:23 <ChrisMorgan> See, GizmoBot reckons there are two of me ;-)
23:33:31 <ChrisMorgan> Nah, I'm fine :-)
23:33:44 <SergentSiler> lol
23:33:51 <Chazz> lol, awesaome ChrisMorgan :D
23:34:24 <ChrisMorgan> I just saw GEdit, Chazz :-)
23:34:31 <Chazz> Awesome! :D
23:34:41 <ChrisMorgan> [3] times two
23:34:59 <ChrisMorgan> = 6? :/
23:35:06 <SergentSiler> lol
23:35:07 <Chazz> yup. :P
23:35:18 <SergentSiler> as long as basic math still exists yes :P
23:35:23 <SergentSiler> .calc 3 * 2
23:35:24 <GizmoBot> 3 * 2 = 6
23:35:29 <Chazz> lol
23:35:29 <SergentSiler> :P
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23:39:24 <PortableApperrr> hello can i get some help from anyone
23:39:36 <ChrisMorgan> PortableApperrr: please ask your question :-)
23:40:23 <PortableApperrr> how can i access the files and folders in a portable app
23:40:37 <ChrisMorgan> Could you explain what you mean more?
23:40:46 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not sure what you mean.
23:42:58 <PortableApperrr> the AppData (like the exe and the dlls)
23:43:43 <PortableApperrr> ...
23:47:22 <PortableApperrr> hello?
23:47:33 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry
23:47:45 <ChrisMorgan> The application is stored in App, and the data is stored in Data.
23:49:50 <PortableApperrr> but i dont see it?
23:49:59 <ChrisMorgan> Where are you looking?
23:50:07 <ChrisMorgan> It's all inside the directory you installed the application to
23:51:18 <PortableApperrr> ok i installed it in the desktop
23:51:22 <PortableApperrr> but its just an exe
23:51:31 <PortableApperrr> thats all there is theres no folder
23:51:34 <ChrisMorgan> It's not a good idea to put them on the desktop really
23:51:59 <PortableApperrr> oh
23:52:01 <ChrisMorgan> Put it somewhere else... are you intending to use them on a USB disk at all?
23:52:11 <PortableApperrr> no just on the computer
23:52:18 <PortableApperrr> ok here ill make it easy
23:52:25 <PortableApperrr> to say what happened
23:52:32 <ChrisMorgan> The main reason why is because if you install multiple ones to the desktop they'll interfere with one another.
23:52:39 <ChrisMorgan> Each needs to go in a separate folder.
23:52:50 <PortableApperrr> no theres just that one portable one
23:52:59 <PortableApperrr> it was from another site in one EXE just everything
23:53:00 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. C:\PortableApps\BPBiblePortable
23:53:03 <PortableApperrr> no folder or anything
23:53:12 <ChrisMorgan> Oh; we can't support things from any other places.
23:53:16 <ChrisMorgan> What was it?
23:53:40 <PortableApperrr> it was from a spanish
23:53:48 <ChrisMorgan> What was the program?
23:53:54 <PortableApperrr> Adobe Premiere CS3
23:54:03 <ChrisMorgan> That's thoroughly illegal.
23:54:14 <PortableApperrr> oh wow
23:54:23 <PortableApperrr> o_0 i should delete now
23:54:25 <ChrisMorgan> Don't use it - as well as being illegal, several of the things for those are completely broken and can cause damage to the computer
23:54:30 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
23:54:39 <PortableApperrr> ok
23:54:53 <PortableApperrr> i deleted it right now
23:55:04 <PortableApperrr> thanks for warning i didnt know
23:55:24 <ChrisMorgan> That's OK. It's commercial software - http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/ - US$799
23:56:19 <PortableApperrr> Alright i think i will buy it
23:56:23 <PortableApperrr> Thanks for your help
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