IRC Log from 2009-10-02
00:06:14 <Bensawsome> "i think i will buy it?"
00:06:22 <Chazz> lol
00:06:30 <Bensawsome> lol if i bought that expensive a software on a whim i'd be in the ditch now :/
00:07:13 <Chazz> lol, ya ;/
00:07:17 <Chazz> * :/
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02:40:43 <pratchett.freenode.net> Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | SF CCA Wins: http://portableapps.com/node/20079
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03:11:51 <orwell.freenode.net> Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | SF CCA Wins: http://portableapps.com/node/20079
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06:03:40 <vittal> hi anybudy there
06:04:12 <ChrisMorgan> vittal: please ask your question
06:05:12 <vittal> right ok i got iptv intsalled so to view iptv channels on computer i did download VLC player but i cant able to play the channels in VLC player so can u plz help me
06:06:22 <ChrisMorgan> Have you got it working with VLC Player, not the portable version?
06:06:51 <ChrisMorgan> I'd suggest you look at http://google.com/search?q=vlc+iptv
06:07:28 <ChrisMorgan> http://avenard.com/iptv/VLC.html seems OK
06:07:42 <ChrisMorgan> I don't use IPTV at all though
06:07:53 <vittal> nope cos i did download version 1.0.2 in dat also its not playin so i did try with version 1.0.1 thinkin dat it may play in dat but it didnt work either so how can i get channels on my computer to view
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06:10:57 <vittal> so can u help me to get iptv channels on my computer plz
06:11:09 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know how to do it.
06:11:14 <ChrisMorgan> If those can't help, I can't help
06:11:57 <vittal> thx mate
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08:56:11 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
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08:56:11 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
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11:47:31 <Kangarooo> hello. what is recomended format of usb to put portable apps? Fat or Fat32 ? or maybe some other is faster?
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11:48:01 <ChrisMorgan> Generally FAT32 is optimal.
11:48:47 <ChrisMorgan> For some purposes NTFS is needed (e.g. large encrypted sections, >2GB), but generally performance is a smidgeon less with NTFS than with FAT32.
11:51:53 <Kangarooo> maybe its my imagination but i put on portalbe apps and get used to them on 128mb FAT and now put on 2gb flash and it was Fat32. and firefox at least 1st time was slower. i did some testing with installing copying and delting on both FAT and FAT32 on 2gb (formated both times) and it look like FAT32 is faster but firefox was somehow the same or slower in first time.
11:52:14 <ChrisMorgan> USB disks are not all alike.
11:52:27 <ChrisMorgan> There can be enormous speed differences.
11:52:38 <ChrisMorgan> Even orders of magnitude sometimes
11:53:39 <Kangarooo> so best way will be to format usb to NTFS? ok i can do that in linux as i recall. not in windows.. maybe then this info could be put in website so others know how to improve speed of portable apps?
11:53:58 <ChrisMorgan> NTFS will generally be a bit slower.
11:54:25 <ChrisMorgan> Generally you're fine just to leave it as it comes.
11:55:32 <ChrisMorgan> BTW, if you really do want to switch to NTFS from an existing FAT or FAT32 partition, go to the command line and take a look at CONVERT.
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11:58:47 <ChrisMorgan> But if you do, you'll want to disable the security stuff (read convert's output)
12:00:07 <Kangarooo> here is google search results for fat fat32 ntfs usb faster http://alturl.com/7csq
12:00:58 <Kangarooo> is it possible to make portable apps secure all ? when i plug in it asks for password? in case i loose it noone can see it?
12:01:16 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look at TrueCrypt and FreeOTFE.
12:01:33 <ChrisMorgan> TrueCrypt is better
12:02:30 <ChrisMorgan> However, will you have administrative privileges whenever you need to use your secured section?
12:04:08 <ChrisMorgan> If you don't, there's http://sourceforge.net/projects/tcexplorer/ for TrueCrypt (not sure if it works with the latest version still, you'd want to try it), and FreeOTFE Explorer for FreeOTFE.
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12:07:48 <Kangarooo> "If we go back and look at the SiSoft Sandra test, the best scores were achieved using ExFat, then FAT32 came in second and NTFS in last." from http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/information/usb-flash-drive-comparison-part-2-fat32-vs-ntfs-vs-exfat/
12:07:59 <ChrisMorgan> yeah
12:08:05 <ChrisMorgan> goodnight, I'm off now.
12:08:26 <ChrisMorgan> If you want a secure chunk greater than 2GB though, you'll need to use NTFS.
12:08:51 <ChrisMorgan> 2GB is the maximum file size supported by FAT32.
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12:09:28 <Kangarooo> ok thx ill try true crypt. do i need to a.) install it first on clean usb and then portable apps? b.) or can i also after installing Portableapps and then true crypt?
12:10:36 <Kangarooo> i have 2gb so ill use fat32 and put truecrypt
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13:31:39 <OliverK> hey, is dia java based?
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21:26:33 <Chazz> Wee! Netsplit!
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22:02:07 <GizmoBot> digitxp is a blue dolphin that likes cheese.
22:02:12 <digitxp> hi
22:02:18 <Chazz> lol
22:02:50 <digitxp> I think that a personal NB is missing from PApps...
22:03:03 <Chazz> nb?
22:03:13 <digitxp> note book
22:03:18 <Chazz> ooh
22:03:24 <digitxp> like Tiddlywiki
22:03:28 <digitxp> only wysiwyg
22:03:41 <Chazz> oh
22:03:51 <digitxp> I like Luminotes a lot, but it's missing some really cool features like sync.
22:04:29 <digitxp> Speaking of, who's up for Luminotes Portable?
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22:05:37 <digitxp> Making Luminotes Portable is easy. You just need to bring the included USB version batch file up to spec. And copy over the files.
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22:06:04 <Chazz> digitxp, tell -dev perhaps?
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22:34:03 <GizmoBot> Whibo is Chazz's fan
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23:52:14 <GizmoBot> kai_62656 is...
23:52:43 <Chazz> kai_62656, hai!
23:52:58 <kai_62656> hai daBomb69
23:58:20 <gluxon> KAI!!!
23:58:26 <kai_62656> ???
23:59:18 <kai_62656> gluxon: what?