IRC Log from 2009-10-06

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01:28:06 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
01:28:41 <TimClark> .
01:28:43 <TimClark> Time to change your hotmail password http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7276
01:31:08 <Chazz> Lovely
01:31:27 <JacobMastel> Yeah I sazs that
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02:22:05 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
02:23:33 <Whibo> ChrisMorgan
02:23:34 <Whibo> hi
02:23:36 <Whibo> :D
02:25:28 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan! :D
02:27:34 <Whibo> HI TIM
02:29:08 <TimClark> Hello Whibo and good bye all, time to go
02:29:14 <ChrisMorgan> bye
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02:29:41 <Chazz> D:
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02:37:29 <jamcomm> hy
02:37:34 <jamcomm> im not banned
02:37:42 <jamcomm> lol
02:37:47 <Chazz> lol
02:37:49 <ChrisMorgan> You may not be banned in here, but don't misbehave or you will be.
02:37:56 <jamcomm> what's the problem?
02:38:04 <Chazz> So, the infamous jamcomm finally visits the IRC.
02:38:18 <jamcomm> one bold dude
02:38:26 <Chazz> lol
02:38:32 <Gizmokid2005> jamcomm: it's your prevailing attitude. You have been dutifully warned, you need to follow the guidelines in here, or you will lose your priveleges here as well.
02:38:33 <jamcomm> annoying
02:38:53 <jamcomm> these names are disposable no?
02:39:01 <Chazz> Semi
02:39:06 <ChrisMorgan> Doesn't matter.
02:39:07 <Gizmokid2005> jamcomm: bold isn't the word. You blatantly disregarded the forum guidelines multiple times...
02:39:20 <jamcomm> so you can blackban names
02:39:23 <Gizmokid2005> jamcomm: they are, but your host is not. it is much easier to revoke your priveleges from this room.
02:39:47 <jamcomm> well how does one know which host?
02:40:03 <Gizmokid2005> jamcomm: if you don't know the workings of IRC, I suggest you use google.
02:40:07 <jamcomm> conjecture
02:40:11 <Gizmokid2005> nope.
02:40:13 <Chazz> jamcomm, http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
02:40:15 <Whibo> conjecture
02:40:16 <Gizmokid2005> a simple command anyone can run
02:40:19 <Whibo> cool
02:40:42 <jamcomm> i understand banning from forums, it's more or less permanent text, but here nah, shows gutlessness really
02:40:50 <Gizmokid2005> not really jamcomm
02:40:52 <Gizmokid2005> palogbot: uri
02:40:52 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-10-06#T02-40-52
02:40:55 <jamcomm> yes really
02:40:56 <Gizmokid2005> these are logged as well
02:41:26 <Gizmokid2005> and the requirement to retain a friendly environment in here is higher than it is in the forum.
02:41:29 <jamcomm> yes i was talking about IP
02:41:50 <jamcomm> chat is good and forums, but why no newsgroup like Mozilla
02:42:01 <Gizmokid2005> why do we need a newgroup jamcomm?
02:42:08 <jamcomm> more variety
02:42:20 <Gizmokid2005> of?
02:42:22 <ChrisMorgan> No need, no point, I'd say
02:42:23 <jamcomm> i hardly ever use the chat actually
02:42:43 <jamcomm> the forums are good, there's no PM feature that's all good
02:43:06 <Gizmokid2005> jamcomm: you are correct, but that isn't introduced in newsgroups either.
02:43:12 <jamcomm> you want to talk to someone you come here but usernames are disposable, eg I can be John T. Haller for example no?
02:43:20 <Gizmokid2005> you could attempt it.
02:43:26 <Gizmokid2005> but there is also nick protection
02:43:27 <Chazz> jamcomm,
02:43:30 <Gizmokid2005> which would disallow that
02:43:36 <Chazz> see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
02:43:38 <Gizmokid2005> plus, we'd know it wasn't him if you didn't identify.
02:43:38 <jamcomm> well i wouldn't i'm just saying a flexible environment is best
02:43:45 <Chazz> and /msg nickserv help
02:43:52 <Gizmokid2005> this is more/less as flexible as it gets
02:44:03 <jamcomm> cool
02:44:12 <jamcomm> so why isn't it done when you make a forum login then
02:44:20 <Gizmokid2005> why isn't what doen?
02:44:23 <Gizmokid2005> *done?
02:44:32 <jamcomm> msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
02:44:52 <Gizmokid2005> jamcomm: IRC and the forums are in absolutely /NO/ way linked or connected.
02:45:01 <Gizmokid2005> IRC is a completely different service, not even hosted by portableapps.
02:45:12 <jamcomm> i know
02:45:17 <Gizmokid2005> and it wouldn't make logical sense anyways.
02:45:34 <Gizmokid2005> why tie up a username in IRC that's used on the forums, when the chances of it being used are very minimal
02:45:37 <jamcomm> yeh, cause say you had a name, it could be banned in both zones
02:45:51 <Gizmokid2005> jamcomm: it could be banned in both zones anyways.
02:45:54 <jamcomm> no need to worry "trolls"
02:46:10 <jamcomm> at least no PM in forums, that's a start
02:46:12 <jamcomm> anyway
02:46:17 <Gizmokid2005> no, there wouldn't be, but all of the ops in here are also active (at least in some way) on the forums.
02:46:19 <jamcomm> i have something to say about this menu
02:46:24 <Gizmokid2005> so there is still a solid connect between the two.
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03:54:50 <gluxon> Gizmokid2005: Why wasn't my last .def appropriate?
03:56:31 <Chazz> better question, did he change it...
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04:56:18 <Chazz> wb Bensawsome
04:56:45 <Bensawsome> *sigh* im upgrading znc in hope that that will fix my problem. i doubt it though cause statbot cant connect either :(
04:57:09 <Chazz> weird =/
04:57:26 <Chazz> how many connections u got to FN right now?
04:57:32 <Bensawsome> i think its my router so when i go back im gonna reset it to factory defaults. luckily i dont have that much configged on it. just a few ports and a dynamic dns
04:57:47 <Bensawsome> 1
04:58:08 <Chazz> weird...
04:58:24 <Bensawsome> anyweays this aint the palce to talk about mai problems XD ot or something time
04:59:07 <Chazz> lol, ya
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09:13:02 <GizmoBot> Whibo sets mode +thanks to Chazz
09:13:03 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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12:21:57 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
12:21:57 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
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13:56:14 <Nerd42> Hey
13:56:20 <Nerd42> anybody awake here?
13:57:43 <Nerd42> h'lo ?
14:01:50 <MaienM|Sleep> hello Nerd42
14:01:57 <MaienM|Sleep> can we help you with anything?
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15:06:29 <Nerd42> hey i was thinking - somebody really needs to make a Second Life Portable
15:06:35 <Nerd42> They have an open source client now
15:07:10 <Nerd42> sometimes i've got access to computers that could run second life but no administrator privileges to install
15:07:38 <Gizmokid2005> .g site:portableapps.com SecondLIfe Portable
15:07:38 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: http://portableapps.com/node/15340
15:08:09 <Nerd42> yeah i've seen the threads :)
15:08:19 <Gizmokid2005> k :)
15:08:29 <Gizmokid2005> I know they are out there, it'll happen when someone picks it up
15:12:28 <Bensawsome> hmmm Nerd42 i found this with a quick google: http://www.travelinlibrarian.info/2007/01/second-life-portable.html
15:12:36 <Bensawsome> I havent tried it myself but....
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16:19:49 <pa_4657> I was just wondering is itunes portable
16:20:44 <pa_4657> or is there something else that can play my movies
16:21:20 <pa_4657> Help!
16:21:34 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4657: no, itunes cannot be made portable
16:21:52 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4657: http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video will give you what you want.
16:22:00 <pa_4657> ok thanks
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16:41:07 <pa_2849> Help!
16:42:34 <kai_62656> can we help you pa_2849
16:42:37 <kai_62656> ?
16:42:55 <pa_2849> I can't find where to post/report a possible glitch in the dowload links
16:43:05 <kai_62656> hmm
16:43:12 <kai_62656> where is the glitch?
16:43:41 <pa_2849> When I click on the download for 7zipportable, it goes to Sourceforge, but shows the portable apps shell download, not 7zip
16:43:47 <pa_2849> did it with Peazip too
16:44:08 <kai_62656> hmm
16:44:21 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2849: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/7-Zip%20Portable/7-Zip%20Portable%204.65%20Rev%202/7-ZipPortable_4.65_Rev_2.paf.exe?use_mirror=voxel
16:44:26 <Gizmokid2005> use that for 7-zip
16:44:54 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2849: and this for PeaZip: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/PeaZip%20Portable/PeaZip%20Portable%202.7/PeaZipPortable_2.7.paf.exe?use_mirror=voxel
16:45:01 <pa_2849> duh, I see what's going on now...
16:45:02 <Gizmokid2005> it's probably just a sourceforge mirror issue atm.
16:45:25 <pa_2849> it's going to the main portable apps page, rather than the individual download pages
16:45:38 <pa_2849> I see the individual downloads further down the screen
16:45:53 <pa_2849> I was just thrown when I didn't see what I was expecting
16:46:02 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2849: if you click on the actual apps' page and clikc the download link, it should go right to that application's download
16:46:12 <pa_2849> It doesn't
16:46:23 <pa_2849> It goes to the 'rollup
16:46:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2849: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/7-zip_portable
16:46:31 <Gizmokid2005> if you go there
16:46:40 <Gizmokid2005> and click the download button, it should open the download.
16:47:36 <pa_2849> Yes, sourceforge is just not IDing it as such - just a bit of confusion.
16:47:52 <Gizmokid2005> probably a rogue mirror atm
16:48:21 <pa_2849> It's Sourceforge, not y'all
16:48:30 <Gizmokid2005> yep
16:48:38 <pa_2849> thanks for the help!
16:48:42 <pa_2849> bye
16:48:45 <Gizmokid2005> np pa_2849
16:48:47 <Gizmokid2005> see ya
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19:11:48 <andreasma> hello sar3th
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19:39:44 <GizmoBot> gluxon needs a new appropriate def.
19:40:01 <gluxon> Gizmokid2005: 3rd time... how is my def not appropriate!
19:41:06 <gluxon> Gizmokid2005! Why are you NEVER HERE!!!
19:41:06 <jnw222> lol
19:41:07 <gluxon> :P
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20:43:56 <andreasma> bye
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22:12:51 <powerjuce|away> im back!!, i just completly switched to ubuntu, and now i am finally fully set p
22:12:56 <powerjuce|away> up*
22:15:45 <Chazz> wb powerjuce|away! :D
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22:34:53 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: going to fix Songbird Portable download link?
22:35:32 <ChrisMorgan> Quietly amusing really :P
22:36:21 <ZachThibeau> he got a vps he's moving the site too :P
22:38:35 <ChrisMorgan> I'll take that as good news... is it good news that it's not there? ;-)
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22:39:44 <ZachThibeau> I think it's good news that it's getting there :P
22:59:45 <Gizmokid2005> Thanks ChrisMorgan|Away
22:59:48 <Gizmokid2005> The link has been fixed.
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