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00:21:38 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
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00:45:23 <pa_7575> does this work a school?
00:46:03 <ZachThibeau> are you asking if it runs a school or does the apps work at school?
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01:20:59 <pa_4583> help
01:21:49 <Chazz> with?
01:22:11 <pa_4583> Need to delete account
01:22:52 <ZachThibeau> on portableapps.com?
01:23:13 <pa_4583> forums, yeah
01:23:20 <ZachThibeau> well current site administration isn't available at this time, but generally accounts are just left and forgotten by the owner
01:23:25 <ZachThibeau> of the account
01:23:50 <pa_4583> can i delete it though?
01:24:06 <ZachThibeau> no only an administrator can
01:24:31 <pa_4583> well can i get the admin to?
01:25:12 <ZachThibeau> if he was online sure but he's not online right now
01:25:28 <pa_4583> can i email him?
01:26:45 <pa_4583> hello?
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01:27:05 <Chazz> Goodbye.
01:27:40 <ZachThibeau> sure he can email but chances are of him getting a response are slim :/
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02:21:48 <pa_7575> soz im bak so do you think portable apps will work on a school computer?
02:22:05 <Chazz> ya, they do
02:22:12 <Chazz> Well, normally they do.
02:22:21 <pa_7575> omg ty im very happy
02:22:26 <pa_7575> rofl
02:22:28 <Chazz> lol
02:23:27 <pa_7575> i got lol warcraft doom counter strike and portable apps + more games that r portable
02:24:52 <Chazz> lol
02:25:48 <pa_7575> are you a staff member?
02:25:55 <Chazz> Nope.
02:25:59 <pa_7575> ohh ok
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02:29:13 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
02:29:27 <Chazz> Gizmokid2005, :D
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02:33:56 <pa_7575> nice work on the apps Gizmo
02:39:13 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> thanks pa_7575?
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04:20:40 <Chazz> anyone else seen http://lifehacker.com/5375844/defaultbrowser-sets-a-portable-browser-to-system-default
04:21:00 <ChrisMorgan> Yes.
04:21:01 <ChrisMorgan> Now :P
04:21:05 <Chazz> lol
04:21:28 <Chazz> Might finally be the answer to the age old 'Can I make FFP my default browser?' question! :P
04:21:38 <ChrisMorgan> Heard of DefaultMyFFP?
04:21:49 <Chazz> Nope
04:21:55 <ChrisMorgan> And noticed the "Windows XP only"?
04:22:02 <ChrisMorgan> .g defaultmyffp
04:22:02 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: http://portableapps.com/node/7693
04:22:05 <Chazz> oh, good point =/
04:22:22 <ChrisMorgan> Which makes it fairly useless for the masses
04:26:07 <Chazz> ya :(
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04:35:40 <Bensawsome> ummm wha...? dont the majority of people still use xp?
04:35:49 * Bensawsome aint sure and hasnt checked recently so....
04:36:42 * Chazz thought so
04:36:52 <Bensawsome> lol ChrisMorgan comments?
04:43:41 <ChrisMorgan> My comment: so?
04:43:52 <ChrisMorgan> Many people use Vista and 7. Thus you must support them.
04:43:59 <ChrisMorgan> XP only is useless.
04:45:18 <Bensawsome> yes im not saying many people having started using the most recent windows os's but im pretty sure win7 still isnt more then !% and vista still hasnt taken over the majhority from xp. thats what im wondering
04:45:59 <Bensawsome> *1%
04:46:02 <Bensawsome> lol
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04:48:51 <GizmoBot> gluxon needs a new appropriate def. <-- NO I DO NOT!!!! MY OLD ONE WAS PERFECTLY FINE!!!
04:48:59 <Chazz> lol
04:52:47 <gluxon> Tim's never here anymore...
04:54:27 <Chazz> gluxon, tim's here all the time.
04:55:10 <gluxon> what about now? :P
04:56:41 <Chazz> lol
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04:57:29 <Horusofoz> Wassup! :p
04:58:00 <Bensawsome> yo Horusofoz
04:58:11 <Horusofoz> Hey Bensawsome
04:58:17 <Bensawsome> wazuuuuup
04:58:28 <Horusofoz> :)
04:58:33 <Horusofoz> What's the word
04:59:00 <Chazz> Horusofoz! :D
04:59:21 <Horusofoz> Chazz!! What's crackin :p
04:59:31 <gluxon> Hi.
05:00:08 <Horusofoz> Chazz: Have you finalised plans for mobilising the Penguin army to siege Redmond with?
05:00:12 <Horusofoz> gluxon: Hey
05:00:31 <Chazz> Horusofoz, Aye, they're coming in from Antartica as we speak. >:P
05:01:35 <Horusofoz> Chazz: All this time they thought they were fluffy little flightless birds. Little did they know the reason Penguins don't lift their wings is coz their hiding bazookas :D
05:01:52 <Chazz> lol
05:02:04 <gluxon> ... LOL!
05:02:59 <gluxon> They're plotting reveng against M!cr@so#t
05:03:38 <Bensawsome> OH Horusofoz you know what the word is? THE BIRD. B-b-b-b-b-bird is the word....
05:04:27 <ChrisMorgan> c-c-c-c-cold, Bensawsome?
05:04:31 <Horusofoz> I hope that aint some pseudo/net way of flipping the bird there young Ben :p
05:04:35 <Bensawsome> lol ChrisMorgan
05:04:48 <ChrisMorgan> You guys should know better than to mention classified information where a Microsoft representative might read it.
05:04:51 <Horusofoz> hey ChrisMorgan
05:04:52 <Bensawsome> Horusofoz... are oyu telling me you never heard surfin bird?!
05:05:07 <Horusofoz> nu nut?
05:05:24 <Bensawsome> O_O
05:05:28 <Horusofoz> :D
05:05:31 <Bensawsome> ok you have to now. this has been the basis of many a funneh jokes
05:05:33 <Bensawsome> one sec
05:06:10 <gluxon> Where's the M!cr@so#t representive? I have to knock some sense into him...
05:06:22 <gluxon> :P
05:07:07 <Bensawsome> gluxon ill help :3
05:07:18 <gluxon> :P lol.
05:07:20 * Bensawsome gets his old imac
05:07:28 <Bensawsome> The ultimate insult :3
05:08:25 <Horusofoz> ChrisMorgan: 'Tis the honorable thing to do. Give your enemy a word minutes before the first shots are fired. We're not Mongols (No offence to any Mongolians in the room. This is reference only to the Mongols of The Golden Horde period who would attack without word and with speed not know at the time. Sort of a medival precursor to the blitzkrieg tactic emplyed by the Germans in WW2)
05:08:54 <Bensawsome> here ya go Horusofoz it wins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow&fmt=18
05:09:03 <Horusofoz> oops that was a bit longer then I realised as I was thinking it
05:09:13 <Horusofoz> Bensawsome: Checking now
05:09:16 <Bensawsome> k
05:09:17 <Bensawsome> lol
05:09:33 <gluxon> ...
05:10:00 <Horusofoz> Bensawsome: lol - Think I heard this years back. My folks put in on a bday. It's tolerable but won't find it on my Songbird :D
05:12:34 <gluxon> Bensawsome: Find Gives You Hell on Playlist.com :D
05:13:07 <Horusofoz> Putting the warmongering aside (DIE M$ DIE!), what's the latest on PA news?
05:15:28 <Horusofoz> A lot going on I see :(
05:16:06 <Horusofoz> If anyone's interested - http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2009/10/adobe-education-store-offers-cheap-apps-for-students/
05:16:29 <gluxon> Me haz no money :D
05:16:51 <gluxon> I'm going to play Mario or something.
05:16:57 <gluxon> bye
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05:24:17 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... price has gone down since CS3 which was RRP $699
05:25:51 <ChrisMorgan> And it's available for another $200 less... http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?sourceid=Mozilla-search&q=adobe+master+suite+cs4
05:26:05 <ChrisMorgan> http://www.ota.com.au/products/details.jsp?productID=75313
05:26:14 <ChrisMorgan> $401.34
05:27:28 <ChrisMorgan> Plus $20 freight fee
05:30:59 <Horusofoz> Cool :) I g2g - Take care all and keep an eye out for the mighty penguin ;)
05:32:00 <ChrisMorgan> Do they have daylight savings in your part of the world Horusofoz or are you further out of phase from me now?
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06:29:53 <Chazz> howdy rmccue :D
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12:05:24 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> lolz
12:05:30 <sar3th> hi Wes_Tech_Nerd
12:05:38 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> read that last link on the topic
12:05:39 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> hey sar3th
12:05:58 * Wes_Tech_Nerd prefers moutain dew :-p
12:06:04 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> mountain*
12:06:23 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> hows everyone doing?
12:07:36 * Wes_Tech_Nerd changes daves nick to not here ;)
12:09:50 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> tribalwars now had pop up ads the stays on the page :/
12:09:57 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i cant block those
12:17:53 <MaienM|Sleep> adblockplus?
12:23:46 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> idk
12:23:54 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i dont think any of them can block it
12:25:24 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> darn
12:25:34 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> my custom error page is not working in cpanel
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12:28:37 <joe____> hi... my blender crashes when i use the play key
12:28:44 <joe____> what do i do
12:28:51 <joe____> to fix it
12:30:00 <joe____> is any one here ?>?
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12:38:42 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> lol
12:38:48 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> he couldn't wait
12:39:06 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i didn't even know a blender had a play key xD
12:39:07 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> lol
12:39:22 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> although iwonder y its crashing
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12:54:39 <Horusofoz> Help!
12:54:53 <Horusofoz> Does anyone know how to recover files deleted by Toucan?
12:56:29 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> errm
12:56:42 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> undelete plus
12:56:58 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> http://undeleteplus.com/
12:57:41 <Horusofoz> payware?
12:59:10 <Horusofoz> would recuva suffice?
13:02:45 <Horusofoz> well recuva aint cutting it. I accidentally deleted the files with toucan minutes ago and it can't find them :(
13:03:10 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> free
13:03:31 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i have good luck with that program
13:03:38 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> its saved my arse already xD
13:04:03 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> it recovers about 25 dif sets of pics of my baby brother
13:04:12 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> because i forgot to back them up
13:04:18 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> recovered*
13:04:38 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> try it
13:04:46 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> u can set filters and everything
13:04:59 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> oh wait
13:05:02 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> its not frre anymore
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13:05:12 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> u want my free d/l?
13:05:47 <Horusofoz> I've downloaded the trial and testinf with it now
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13:07:21 <Horusofoz> No luck :( Toucan must be thorough however it deletes stuff
13:08:23 <Horusofoz> Neither recuva nor Undelete Plus can spot anything
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13:13:24 <sar3th> r-studio
13:13:31 <sar3th> payware
13:13:32 <sar3th> expensive
13:24:59 <Bensawsome> well if 2 different programs cant recover I doubt you are gonna have much luck with others unless you send it to one of those proffesional data recovery places
13:25:10 <Bensawsome> which cost thousands i think btw
13:25:11 <Bensawsome> lol
13:25:57 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i hate that undelete went payware :/
13:26:12 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> it was freeware last time i checked which was 2 months ago
13:26:43 <Bensawsome> lol dude... everything goes payware... and also i highly doubt it was just 2 months ago
13:26:49 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> oh and its 1 year liscense
13:26:57 <Bensawsome> i lost some files about 6 years ago and i had to buy this software for 30 bucks to get it back
13:27:04 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> huhm
13:27:09 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> brb
13:27:10 <Bensawsome> and im sure it was LONG before that
13:27:50 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> 6 years ago
13:27:54 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> not that long
13:28:02 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i d/l my copy 3 years ago
13:28:09 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> though it might have switched just after thta
13:28:32 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i probally just d/led and old copy last time
13:28:41 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> but the first time i know i went to the website
13:28:54 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> cause i remeber plus cost money
13:29:05 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> but they got rid of the free version and made plus free
13:30:18 <Bensawsome> either way data recovery is hard to do man... there were prbly commercial ones LOOOOONG before now
13:31:41 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i didnt think its that hard
13:31:49 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i mean the files really dont get deleted
13:31:58 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> till it gets over writen
13:32:08 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> written
13:32:23 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> hey ben what mail providor u got?
13:33:05 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> u use hotmail or gmail?
13:35:01 <Bensawsome> dude it prbly is hard because it needs to read the files and figure out what is what. and i use gmail for the majority of things
13:35:08 <Bensawsome> cause it wins
13:35:25 <sar3th> oh yeah it does
13:35:58 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> sweet
13:36:08 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> send a test email to admin@weshelp.co.cc
13:36:23 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> perty plz with waffles on top :)
13:38:59 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> O.o
13:39:25 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> u guys tried thunderbird 3 beta 4
13:40:11 <Bensawsome> lol Wes_Tech_Nerd you shouldnt of put ur email in a logged channel XD
13:40:19 <Bensawsome> but ya i will
13:41:36 <Bensawsome> ok sent Wes_Tech_Nerd
13:41:41 <Bensawsome> off to class now
13:42:41 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> lol i forgot about that
13:42:45 * Wes_Tech_Nerd changes
13:43:02 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> ill send u back my address in case u need it
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14:09:02 <sora021> hello
14:09:16 <sora021> any mods or programmers here ?
14:09:28 <sora021> or someone to asks to
14:09:42 <sora021> help!
14:11:09 <sora021> im new to portableapps.com and i want to have some other applications to add to my copy , is there a way to do it ?
14:11:32 <sora021> help!
14:13:14 <sora021> Gizmokid2010
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14:35:16 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> lolz
14:35:28 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> i need to check this every nowandthen
14:36:32 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> nice
14:36:39 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> cpanel is down now
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14:37:28 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> im on
14:37:32 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> dns is down though
14:41:38 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> im gone guys
14:41:40 <Wes_Tech_Nerd> l8r
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17:07:56 <OliverK> k . . .
17:10:55 <OliverK> low battery
17:11:00 <Chazz> D:
17:11:02 <OliverK> and I gotta move downstaors
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17:35:49 <CP> hellow
17:36:02 <OliverK> hello
17:36:10 <OliverK> anything we can help you with?
17:36:18 <CP> Yes please
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17:36:26 <CP> I am looking for MS Office
17:36:30 <CP> portbale of course :)
17:36:31 <OliverK> what do you need?
17:36:43 <OliverK> nope, not going to happen
17:36:59 <CP> Due to some technical issues ?
17:37:00 <OliverK> ms office is to tightly connected to the system and is hampered by a restrictive EULA
17:37:12 <OliverK> and some techinical issues
17:37:26 <CP> EULA is not an issue, just spoke with MSFT
17:37:40 <OliverK> you could use openoffice, which does have the ability to (mostly) open .docx
17:37:43 <CP> but you say that technical isssues can not be solved , right ?
17:37:50 <OliverK> i highly doubt it
17:38:09 <CP> Just got an answer from MS BD group
17:38:37 <CP> OpenOffice can not be used, my customers are looking for native MS applications
17:39:06 <CP> I tried XenoCode and Thinapp .. tech issues so far
17:39:12 <CP> they are trying to fix it these days
17:39:21 <CP> I thought that you guys might have something working
17:39:33 <Gizmokid2005> CP it is a licensing issue.
17:39:36 <Gizmokid2005> Trust me.
17:39:45 <Gizmokid2005> unless you are using it for your own personal use, you could maybe pass it off.
17:39:45 <Gizmokid2005> but
17:39:55 <CP> I have issue with that , since my customers are using corporate license
17:39:59 <Gizmokid2005> the EULA states SPECIFICALLY it's for use on only ONE computer (depending on the license)
17:40:06 <Gizmokid2005> then you could do it for yourself, WE cannot.
17:40:19 <CP> corp license counted per seat .. not per installation
17:40:27 <CP> Check with MS
17:40:33 <OliverK> we don't need to
17:40:37 <Gizmokid2005> CP: corporate license maybe, yes.
17:40:37 <Gizmokid2005> but
17:40:38 <CP> checked by at leest a few times
17:40:43 <Gizmokid2005> we can't take a random license and portablize it.
17:40:49 <Gizmokid2005> YOU would have to do it ONLY for your organization.
17:40:54 <Gizmokid2005> WE as a group cannot do it.
17:41:09 <Gizmokid2005> Not too mention, Office is too integrated into Window to portablize it.
17:41:11 <Gizmokid2005> it would never work.
17:41:16 <Gizmokid2005> with some MAJOR work.
17:41:22 <CP> Do you have an engine that I can use and do it by myself?
17:41:30 <Gizmokid2005> CP: look at the field guide
17:41:36 <Gizmokid2005> .def field_guide
17:41:36 <GizmoBot> field_guide is here: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
17:42:21 <CP> Will do that Thanks
17:42:55 <Gizmokid2005> CP: be warned, though.
17:42:56 <CP> XenoCode and VMWare ThinApp claim that they can do that ...
17:43:01 <Gizmokid2005> you are MODIFYING Office when you do that
17:43:07 <Gizmokid2005> and you cannot redistribute a MODIFIED package of Office.
17:43:09 <CP> but nothing works meantime
17:43:11 <Gizmokid2005> that, is against EULA.
17:43:35 <CP> I am planning to give the engine to my customers
17:43:45 <CP> they all have corporate licenses
17:43:59 <CP> Customer's IT group will do the tricks ..
17:44:04 <Gizmokid2005> CP: it doesn't matter, it's still MODIFIED.
17:44:30 <CP> Again, from my last MS conversation they do not have any issues with that
17:44:41 <CP> Also MS is my strategic partner
17:44:54 <Gizmokid2005> CP: then you talked to the wrong department. MODIFYING anything that has to do with MS is against EULA. Always has been, and always will be.
17:45:06 <Gizmokid2005> that particular person/dept you spoke with, may not have issue, but it's still against the EULA
17:45:08 <sar3th> even for corporate users
17:45:10 <CP> Maybe you are right and I have to check it again :)
17:45:18 <sar3th> that would be good CP
17:45:19 <Gizmokid2005> which is why, PortableApps.com will NOT EVER portablize any Office product
17:45:26 <Gizmokid2005> unless it's true OSS certified.
17:45:51 <CP> This is interesting info indeed
17:47:11 <CP> Thanks .. I will keep digging :(
17:47:30 <sar3th> portabilizing is a very extensive piece of work, and we don't do it just for fun, especially not for non-oss products
17:47:36 <sar3th> sure CP, good luck
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17:48:10 <Gizmokid2005> no problem CP, enjoy.
17:48:12 <CP> Belive me I keen to get it not fun for as well :)
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19:29:17 <sar3th> hey andreasma
19:29:35 <andreasma> hi sar3th,
19:29:38 <andreasma> hi all
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20:29:43 <gluxon> KAI!
20:29:50 <kai_62656|away> ?
20:29:50 <gluxon> You just need one more vouch in shellium!
20:29:54 <kai_62656|away> Yea
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20:55:19 <sar3th> hello TimClark
20:55:21 <Chazz> Howdy TimClark :)
20:55:40 <TimClark> MS is goint to release 3 important/Critial patches for Win7 this Patch Tuesday, 10 days before it is even released :/
20:55:54 <Chazz> wow :o
20:56:20 <TimClark> so even you guys who have the advanced copies of Win7 don't forget to check for updates
20:56:20 <Oni-Neoxes> well
20:56:26 <Oni-Neoxes> yea :p
20:56:34 <TimClark> and hello sar3th and chazz
20:56:38 <sar3th> do you have information on these updates TimClark? what will they fix?
20:57:10 <TimClark> sar3th: they never tell in advance of the release what they actually will be
20:57:19 <sar3th> oh okay
20:57:28 <TimClark> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms09-oct.mspx
20:57:37 <TimClark> just general information
20:57:43 <sar3th> thanks
20:59:04 <TimClark> And anyone who buys/installs it on the 22nd remember to check for updates right away
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