IRC Log from 2009-10-09

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01:06:08 <alpha1beta> hey guys
01:06:36 <alpha1beta> topic is getting mighty long eh
01:06:49 <Chazz> lol
01:06:53 <ZachThibeau> not long enough :P
01:07:24 <alpha1beta> I had to adjust my window size just to see Chazz's comment and the topic
01:07:29 <Chazz> lol
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01:08:41 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
01:08:46 <Chazz> howdy ChrisMorgan
01:09:43 <alpha1beta> Hey Chris, long time no see
01:10:07 <ChrisMorgan> ARGH! Ruuunnn!
01:10:09 <ChrisMorgan> Hello :-)
01:10:16 <ChrisMorgan> Just finished the last of my trial exams :-)
01:10:50 <alpha1beta> yays!
01:17:09 <alpha1beta> How'd the go?
01:17:49 <ChrisMorgan> All very well except the Specialist Mathematics (hardest maths) ones which just went fine :-)
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01:18:15 <SrgSiler|sleep> srry bout that
01:18:20 <alpha1beta> Math sucks :P
01:18:24 <ChrisMorgan> None of us finished the "spesh" ones. Very few do :-)
01:18:41 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: you tempt fate, saying that... ;-)
01:19:15 <Bensawsome> LOL alpha1beta :P
01:19:21 <Bensawsome> so you were late to math eh?
01:19:24 <Bensawsome> awww so sad ;)
01:20:08 <alpha1beta> ChrisMorgan, I got stuck in math. 75 for college, cause I got a 75 on the test..you need a 76 to take 101. I had no warning about the test, so no calc, pen or paper :/
01:21:00 <ChrisMorgan> My dad scored -5% on the first French test he ever did.
01:21:06 <Bensawsome> LOL
01:21:09 <Bensawsome> NEGATIVE 5 XD
01:21:13 <Chazz> -5%? O_O
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01:21:43 <alpha1beta> How the heck do you manage that
01:21:56 <ChrisMorgan> French dictation, and he'd been in England for the first term of that year. Something like lose 2.5% per mistake.
01:22:19 <ChrisMorgan> It was less than two months later that he first got 100% on a test... quite a difference :P
01:22:21 <Bensawsome> o_0
01:22:23 <Bensawsome> >_>
01:22:25 <Bensawsome> lol
01:22:25 <Bensawsome> ya
01:22:30 <Bensawsome> i would say so :/
01:25:18 <alpha1beta> I got a 12.5 on an engish quiz the other week
01:25:25 <alpha1beta> that's a nice big FML.
01:25:55 <alpha1beta> oh and the teacher doesn't limit your grade to a 60.
01:28:32 <Bensawsome> oh alpha1beta tomorrow is friday AND the beginning of mai week long vacation :3
01:28:54 <alpha1beta> oh I hate you :)
01:30:00 <Bensawsome> lol
01:30:24 <Bensawsome> ooooh sweet achmed the dead terrorist is on :3
01:30:26 <alpha1beta> oh well, I only go 3 days a week :P
01:30:33 <alpha1beta> he's getting a Tv show you know
01:30:36 <Bensawsome> OMG its the jeff dunham show! :D
01:30:38 <Bensawsome> alpha1beta go to ot
01:30:42 <alpha1beta> ok
01:35:34 <ChrisMorgan> Wireless power... unfortunately Sony's not doing it the way I (and various others) imagined it when a 10-year-old... just by magnetic fields and electrical reinduction. Easy physics... boring :D http://www.itworld.com/hardware/79600/sony-prototype-sends-electricity-through-air?source=ITWNLE_nlt_thisweek_2009-10-08
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01:45:19 <alpha1beta> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/10/first-pictures-of-single-window-gimp.html
01:46:47 <ZachThibeau> howdy
01:46:59 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: whats new?
01:47:04 <ZachThibeau> other than the exams :P
01:47:06 <ChrisMorgan> Nothing much.
01:48:47 <ZachThibeau> cool link alpha1beta I look forward to a single window gimp :B
01:49:56 <Chazz> omg single window gimp? :o
01:50:02 <alpha1beta> I like the old style better, with the window buttons on all windows 2.6 sucks something nasty
01:50:23 <ZachThibeau> meh I don't mind
01:50:26 <ZachThibeau> I like actually
01:50:38 <alpha1beta> its painful
01:50:45 <alpha1beta> especially on my netbook
01:51:02 <ZachThibeau> the closest app I found that was near photoshop like in looks was ArtWeaver but it has it's limitations
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06:08:30 <PatrickPatience> The Legend has arrived.
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06:09:32 <PatrickPatience> I see we restarted him? :-P
06:10:07 <PatrickPatience> Come Tuesday we've done a year of logs.
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07:01:01 <pa_6204> hi
07:01:11 <pa_6204> someone german in here?
07:01:31 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Not currently.
07:01:35 <pa_6204> ok
07:01:40 <pa_6204> so i try in english
07:01:43 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Feel free to try English then :-)
07:01:49 <pa_6204> yeah
07:02:01 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Sorry though, but I've got to go now, hopefully someone else will answer your question.
07:02:17 <ChrisMorgan|Away> If not though, http://portableapps.com/search/node and http://portableapps.com/forums
07:02:18 <pa_6204> i 've got a good idea but maybe it does exist alreADY
07:02:55 <pa_6204> someone else in this channel?
07:03:03 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Just speak
07:03:07 <pa_6204> ok
07:03:09 <ChrisMorgan|Away> You're more likely to get a response that way
07:03:10 <ChrisMorgan|Away> bye
07:04:42 <pa_6204> maybe theres a program to download applications for portable apps? something like you see a summary of all apps and you could choose and than click <download all choosen> or something like tha
07:04:52 <pa_6204> does it already exist?
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07:09:37 <b14ckr1d3r> maybe theres a program to download applications for portable apps? something like you see a summary of all apps and you could choose and than click <download all choosen> or something like that
07:10:40 <b14ckr1d3r> someone know something like that or does it not exist already?
07:20:18 <b14ckr1d3r> maybe theres a program to download applications for portable apps? something like you see a summary of all apps and you could choose and than click <download all choosen> or something like that
07:20:19 <b14ckr1d3r> someone know something like that or does it not exist already?
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11:08:25 <ciscoheat> I have a question, how do you add the black&white splash screen to your app?
11:08:47 <sar3th> hello ciscoheat, which black&white spash screen do you mean?
11:08:52 <sar3th> "Development Test?"
11:09:09 <ciscoheat> Yes
11:09:31 <sar3th> are you creating your own portableapp?
11:09:50 <ciscoheat> Sure, I've packaged it with the portableapps installer.
11:10:03 <sar3th> did you create a launcher for it?
11:10:11 <ciscoheat> Yep
11:10:31 <sar3th> good, normally the spash screen is coded into the launcher
11:10:36 <ciscoheat> Or I don't know really, I ran the installer and got an .paf.exe
11:10:51 <sar3th> that is only the installer
11:10:56 <ciscoheat> Aha
11:11:16 <sar3th> may i know which app are you creating? and does it leave traces to the system?
11:11:31 <ciscoheat> http://portableapps.com/node/20967
11:11:38 <sar3th> thanks :)
11:11:43 <ciscoheat> I cleaned it up pretty good, I think
11:11:56 <ciscoheat> A registry key is the only entry it did
11:12:20 <sar3th> i'm taking a look at it now :)
11:13:32 <sar3th> okay, from what i can see, you created a launcher in autohotkey
11:13:53 <ciscoheat> I did, I like that language a lot better than nsis
11:14:21 <sar3th> do you know how to display a jpg file in autohotkey?
11:14:31 <ciscoheat> Ah, that's how you do it. Of course
11:14:41 <sar3th> yeah :)
11:14:51 <ciscoheat> I don't know actually, do you? If not I'll find out.
11:14:54 <sar3th> we just have a little splash screen in the apps
11:15:09 <sar3th> well, i didn't use autohotkey much, i'm looking at the documentation now
11:15:50 <ciscoheat> Seems like there is a SplashImage function
11:16:03 <ciscoheat> I'm amazed by this language, it has everything
11:16:45 <sar3th> http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/commands/Progress.htm
11:17:06 <ciscoheat> In what folder should I put the image, and how long should it appear?
11:17:30 <sar3th> put it in other/source and name it after your app, in this case AnySQLMaestroPortable.jpg
11:17:56 <sar3th> show it for 1500 miliseconds = 1.5 seconds
11:18:00 <ciscoheat> Perfect
11:18:17 <ciscoheat> Do I need to make a new release for this little change? :/ I'm sure no-one but you downloaded it.
11:18:59 <sar3th> well, you don't actually need to, but i'd do it, since the splash screen has to be tested as well ;)
11:19:32 <ciscoheat> Ok :)
11:19:49 <ciscoheat> Just one more question
11:20:24 <ciscoheat> I have the icon for the app, I'm putting it in Other/Icon right now
11:20:32 <ciscoheat> But I don't know...
11:20:51 <ciscoheat> It's not Help, it's not Source, but still a whole folder for one file
11:21:01 <sar3th> normally, the icon should be placed in App\AppInfo\appicon.ico
11:21:01 <ciscoheat> Do you have a standard location for program icons?
11:21:21 <ciscoheat> Ah
11:21:34 <ciscoheat> I thought it was for the portableapps icon
11:21:42 <sar3th> yeah, that oo
11:21:45 <sar3th> *too
11:21:55 <ciscoheat> But it's ok that I use the programs icon?
11:21:56 <sar3th> but it's relevant for the launcher and the installer as well :)
11:22:26 <sar3th> that depends on your application's license
11:22:40 <ciscoheat> It's freeware
11:22:54 <ciscoheat> Closed source though
11:23:03 <sar3th> then i don't know, normally the author forbids you to redistribute modified versions
11:23:40 <ciscoheat> So maybe it's best to keep it in Other/Icon
11:24:04 <sar3th> yes, might be
11:25:31 <ciscoheat> I'll do that. Thanks very much for your excellent help
11:27:00 <sar3th> you're welcome :)
11:27:12 <ciscoheat> Next version will be released soon. How'd you like the actual program btw?
11:28:32 <sar3th> it looks very useful, maybe i'll use it for my db-related work :)
11:30:32 <ciscoheat> great to hear
11:30:48 <ciscoheat> Well, I better make this work. See ya, thanks again
11:30:59 <sar3th> goodbye
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16:35:36 <OliverK> this is stupid
16:35:42 <OliverK> i'm running firefox, no extension
16:35:57 <OliverK> its balooned to 66,000 K of memory!
16:38:20 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK: no, that's normal...if firefox uses less than 100,000k of memory for me I'd be worried.
16:38:35 <OliverK> heh
16:38:41 <OliverK> okay . . . .
16:38:49 <OliverK> my computer is just really slow
16:38:50 <Gizmokid2005> but i run a lot of extensions
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16:47:02 <OliverK> i think it has to do with the faronics crapping up the computer, wether the it guy will admit it or not
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17:47:40 <sar3th> hey andreasma
17:47:56 <andreasma> hi sar3th, hi all
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17:59:38 <turbanoff> hi
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18:00:12 <sar3th> hi turbanoff, how can we help you?
18:00:18 <turbanoff> is, the problem with firefox
18:01:01 <turbanoff> need close button latter tab, ff portaqble 3.5.3
18:01:47 <turbanoff> I found a solution for conventional ff
18:02:06 <turbanoff> but it is why it does not work in portable
18:02:11 <sar3th> can you give me the link to that solution please?
18:03:56 <turbanoff> http://userstyles.org/styles/12101
18:04:52 <turbanoff> code must be added to the profile / chrome / userChrome.css
18:11:06 <sar3th> please wait a minute turbanoff, i'm trying to find a solution for you :)
18:11:27 <turbanoff> cool! thx:)
18:19:04 <sar3th> turbanoff, i just tried the solution there, it works with ffp
18:19:15 <sar3th> get stylish first, then install go to http://userstyles.org/styles/12101 again
18:19:39 <sar3th> after that, open about:config and set browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab to false
18:20:40 <turbanoff> sec...
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18:23:27 <turbanoff> it does not give the fact that I need. This option does not close ff after closing the last tab
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18:24:26 <sar3th> oh, you want ff to close after the last tab? then you need to set browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab to true
18:25:51 <turbanoff> I want BUTTON) [X] on the last tab
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18:27:04 <pa_5800> Can anyone what file or folder name that mozilla stores the internet history in?
18:27:26 <pa_5800> history.dat?
18:27:27 <turbanoff> portable don
18:27:33 <turbanoff> 't store
18:27:38 <Chazz> it does.
18:28:51 <pa_5800> Chazz do you know the file?
18:28:59 <Chazz> No clue.
18:29:18 <pa_5800> googly!! thanks
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19:20:01 <Replop> hi
19:20:20 <Bensawsome> hello Replop. need help with filezilla portable?
19:21:57 <Replop> I have an Update question, indeed . when we have the latest portable version of an app, to have a more recent version, if one exist in the main , non-portable project ... is there a way to do it, for the end-user, except waiting the latest version to be Portable, too ?
19:22:16 <Replop> and yes, it was related to FilezillaPortable
19:23:25 <Bensawsome> hmmm. you mean like filezilla was updated and the poratble version isnt up to date yet?
19:23:58 <Replop> Indeed.
19:24:13 <Bensawsome> I wouldnt reccomend it.
19:24:28 <Replop> when i installed the portable version, it told me "there is a more recent version ! Update !" and it downloaded and installed the non-portable 3.2.8
19:24:34 <Bensawsome> sometimes therrte are changes in the launc cher for the portable version which are only for that specific app version
19:24:37 <Bensawsome> oh
19:24:44 <Bensawsome> that probably screwed it up
19:24:54 <Bensawsome> *never* use the biult in updater for the apps
19:25:08 <Bensawsome> that includes firefox filezilla and any other apps with biult in updater
19:25:26 <Bensawsome> although firefox is working on making it so you can do that
19:25:41 <Bensawsome> so did it screw it up Replop?
19:25:46 <Bensawsome> like the settings and such?
19:25:47 <Replop> hum. it seems I had an old non-portable FZ version , on the main hard drive. it installed it over this one, not over the portable one.
19:26:02 <Replop> so it doesn't seem to have screwed up anything
19:26:07 <Bensawsome> oh. good. that way it didnt mess it up :)
19:26:30 <Bensawsome> if it ever gets messed up, just download the most recent portable version and install over the messed up one
19:26:40 <Bensawsome> if that doesnt work unforuntately you need to delete the settings
19:26:55 <Bensawsome> which are located at X:\PortableApps\AppNamePortable\Data
19:27:10 <Bensawsome> where X is the usb drive letter
19:27:13 <Replop> and loose data :/ ( ok, for FTP things, that's only adresses and logins.... )
19:27:18 <Bensawsome> just delete the Data folder and it resets it
19:27:27 <Bensawsome> well thats the only way to really fix it :/
19:27:35 <Bensawsome> if reinstalling doesnt work tyhat is
19:28:03 <Replop> btw ; is Pidgin cool, now ? i tried Pidgin ( portable and not portable ) years ago, but it crashed quite often . It seem the actual Linux version works well ( saw it on Ubuntu ) .
19:28:41 <Bensawsome> well usually now it only crashes if oyu have plugins for it installed
19:28:54 <Replop> that's good.
19:29:51 <Bensawsome> it defintely has gotten better
19:30:08 <Bensawsome> anyway i need to go. if you need more help im sure someone else would be glad to do that
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19:30:29 <Replop> Good evening
19:30:33 <Replop> hum. too late.
19:31:05 <sar3th> Replop: from what i know, pidgin is stabel enough for normal usage :)
19:32:08 <Replop> Great :)
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