IRC Log from 2009-10-13
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00:21:34 <powerjuce> ASS
00:21:45 <powerjuce> didnt we hav a cursebot at onetime?
00:22:18 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce: we did.
00:22:22 <Gizmokid2005> but there was no need to keep it.
00:22:27 <powerjuce> oh ok
00:22:45 <powerjuce> just curious...lol as soon as i entered it i expected it to b kicked
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00:46:30 <powerjuce> hey pa_4040
00:46:33 <powerjuce> how can we help u?
00:47:32 <pa_4040> could you tell me how uninstall vlc portable free software from my computer? thanks
00:48:03 <powerjuce> pa_4040, you can just delete the "VlcPortable" folder
00:48:34 <pa_4040> ok, thats all?
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02:08:47 <qwertymodo> Hey ZachThibeau
02:08:52 <ZachThibeau> sup
02:09:41 <qwertymodo> finally found some time to get VBA-M finished, and I totally forgot the data directory parameter :P
02:10:37 <ZachThibeau> don't worry I did too xD
02:10:50 <ZachThibeau> let me check
02:10:55 <qwertymodo> k thanks
02:11:25 <qwertymodo> I think that'll pretty much finish it :)
02:14:37 <ZachThibeau> iirc it's --configpath
02:15:04 <qwertymodo> let me try it
02:17:42 <qwertymodo> odd
02:18:16 <qwertymodo> it gives me an error saying "the file --configpath K:\thepath\... cannot be opened
02:18:32 <ZachThibeau> :/
02:18:42 <qwertymodo> but then it generates vba.ini in EXEDIR instead of APPDATA like it would normally
02:19:10 <ZachThibeau> qwertymodo: what revision?
02:19:28 <qwertymodo> 893
02:19:41 <ZachThibeau> let me take a look at svn again
02:21:07 <ZachThibeau> Add new command line switch: "--configpath YOURPATHHERE"
02:21:14 <ZachThibeau> thats svn log 893
02:21:40 <ZachThibeau> so it should be visualboyadvance-m.exe --configpath K:
02:21:45 <ZachThibeau> so it should be visualboyadvance-m.exe --configpath K:\dir\
02:27:10 <qwertymodo> ok it's working
02:27:25 <qwertymodo> I was trying to create a windows shortcut and add the parameter into the shortcut
02:27:28 <qwertymodo> it didn't like that
02:27:43 <qwertymodo> but I ran it from the command prompt and it worked just fine
02:33:01 <qwertymodo> arg... the one thing I always forget to back up when I wipe Windows is my NSIS plugins directory...
02:33:12 * qwertymodo off to find all of the plugins I'm missing :(
02:33:14 <ZachThibeau> nsisportable tiem
02:33:32 <Gizmokid2005> qwertymodo: ZachThibeau is right...that's where I got all my plugins from :)
02:33:40 <Gizmokid2005> just copied everything in the plugins folder :D
02:33:43 <qwertymodo> *facepalm
02:33:46 <ZachThibeau> :P
02:33:58 <qwertymodo> I actually have NSISPortable :P
02:34:11 <ZachThibeau> xD
02:34:18 <qwertymodo> I just keep using the non-portable because I use HMNISE
02:34:37 * Chazz only uses NSISPortable so I don't need to add the plugins to the normal version. :P
02:34:53 <Gizmokid2005> qwertymodo: I do too...I used HMNISE when I originally fixed the SBP launcher
02:34:59 <Gizmokid2005> I still usually do it via NP++ though
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02:36:10 <ZachT|ZzZz> night all
02:36:56 <Chazz> night za
02:37:01 <Chazz> * ZachT|ZzZz
02:40:51 * qwertymodo thinks VBA-MP is ready to post :)
02:42:42 * qwertymodo wonders why the PA.c Installer remembers the last directory used, but doesn't update the drive letter...
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02:47:47 <pa_9917> hello. i have the portable menu and one program installed but it's not showing up on the menu. how can i get an icon to be placed in the menu?
02:48:27 <qwertymodo> pa_9917: try clicking on options and refresh
02:48:55 <pa_9917> it didn't work : (
02:49:11 <qwertymodo> did you install the program to the default location?
02:49:32 <pa_9917> what is the default location?
02:49:51 <qwertymodo> for programs to appear in the menu they need to be installed to X:\PortableApps\AppNamePortable
02:50:00 <qwertymodo> where X is the drive where the menu is installed
02:50:11 <pa_9917> i will check.
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02:50:30 <PatrickPatience> Weird.
02:50:32 <Chazz> PatrickPatience, :D
02:50:39 <PatrickPatience> I got this one ready for him: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-11_-_task_coach_portable_0.74.3
02:50:50 <PatrickPatience> And shipped it off a couple days after release.
02:50:57 <PatrickPatience> But he postededed it.
02:51:01 <PatrickPatience> I was makin' me comeback.
02:52:47 <PatrickPatience> powerjuce: Hey man.
02:53:03 <powerjuce> hey PatrickPatience watup
02:53:17 <PatrickPatience> PM?
02:53:27 <powerjuce> sure
02:54:11 <pa_9917> i couldn't find that url
02:54:44 <pa_9917> i meant i couldn't find the menu with that url
02:55:21 <qwertymodo> pa_9917: what drive is the menu installed on?
02:55:33 <pa_9917> J:/
02:55:53 <qwertymodo> ok, so do you have a folder J:\PortableApps
02:55:53 <pa_9917> J:\
02:56:20 <pa_9917> yes
02:56:40 <qwertymodo> just for reference, what program did you install?
02:56:54 <pa_9917> note pad++
02:57:43 <pa_9917> in the app folder is 3 other folders. 7zip, default data and localication
02:57:44 <qwertymodo> ok, so you should have folders J:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com and J:\PortableApps\NotePad++Portable
02:59:04 <pa_9917> says: windows could not find J:\PortableApps\NotePad++Portable
02:59:21 <qwertymodo> wait, when you say "the app folder" do you mean J:\PortableApps\App or J:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\App ?
02:59:35 <pa_9917> i found it.
03:00:06 <pa_9917> should i copy and paste the notepad and app folder into the above location?
03:00:18 <qwertymodo> ok, where is it?
03:00:55 <qwertymodo> think of J:\PortableApps kind of like C:\Program Files. All of your apps go there, but each in their own folder
03:01:07 <pa_9917> it was in a folder i made before i installed protable apps. my documents on my flash drive
03:01:45 <qwertymodo> then yes, copy that folder over so that you have J:\PortableApps\Notepad++Portable
03:02:18 <qwertymodo> and then refresh the menu from the menu's options list
03:02:26 <qwertymodo> also, one last thing
03:02:37 <pa_9917> yes?
03:02:41 <qwertymodo> have you used Notepad++Portable at all yet?
03:02:48 <pa_9917> no
03:02:49 <qwertymodo> from the old location?
03:02:56 <qwertymodo> ok, then nevermind, you should be good
03:03:15 <pa_9917> not since i removed it earlier today
03:03:42 <qwertymodo> all of the PortableApps are fine moving from drive to drive, but some of them have issues moving from folder to folder
03:03:47 <pa_9917> i was cleaning out my files and i just delted the whole thing
03:04:08 <qwertymodo> ok, if you haven't used it since a clean install you should be fine
03:04:42 <pa_9917> should i delete it and start a clean install? also is there an add/remove feature?
03:05:09 <qwertymodo> if you haven't used it, moving it is just the same as a clean install
03:05:11 <powerjuce> Chazz, pm?
03:05:20 <qwertymodo> and what exactly do you mean by add/remove?
03:05:36 <qwertymodo> you add a program by installing it, and deleting the folder removes it
03:05:46 <pa_9917> Vista will not allow me to "modify" it.
03:06:45 <qwertymodo> sounds like a lock of some kind. try just reinstalling it to the correct location and then next time you reboot you should be able to delete the old one
03:06:49 <pa_9917> i was refering to a feature like windows has. it's an automatic add and remove feauture
03:07:30 <pa_9917> thank you so much. : ) you have a a great day/night. all of you thank you so much
03:08:14 <qwertymodo> the new version of the menu has that, but it's still in beta. but all it does is run an installer (add) or delete the program's directory (remove). the menu wouldn't be able to help you because it doesn't even see it at all
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03:15:21 <Chazz> powerjuce, sure?
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03:39:34 <PatrickPatience> .title http://portableapps.com/node/21003
03:39:36 <GizmoBot> PatrickPatience: And So I Say My Farewells.... | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
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03:47:05 <Chazz> D:
03:47:14 <Chazz> PatrickPatience, you're leaving us? D:
03:48:54 <PatrickPatience> I'm sorry. :(
03:50:18 <Chazz> We'll miss you PatrickPatience! D:
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04:06:09 <PatrickPatience> Night, guys.
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05:08:10 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
05:09:07 <Chazz> howdy ChrisMorgan :)
05:09:15 <ChrisMorgan> howdee Chazz
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06:06:47 <Chazz> rmccue, o/
06:07:53 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/InkscapePortable_0.47pre4.paf.exe :-)
06:08:40 <Chazz> :o
06:13:41 <rmccue> \o
06:14:54 <ChrisMorgan> Chazz: :o? Why?
06:15:09 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, i :o
06:15:18 <Chazz> *i:o'd at the awesomeness
06:15:30 <ChrisMorgan> I built it last night, compressed it at school, built the installer and uploaded it just now
06:15:38 <Chazz> Ah, nice
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06:24:17 <ChrisMorgan> RELEASE: Inkscape Portable 0.47pre4 - http://portableapps.com/node/19503
06:30:08 <ChrisMorgan> 15507 downloads of all versions... including one so far of this.
06:31:28 <Chazz> O_O
06:32:26 <ChrisMorgan> Actually make that 15,508. Another one of pre2 just came through...
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09:33:10 <Horusofoz> Hey all :)
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09:33:32 <ChrisMorgan|Away> ... guiltily :P
09:33:50 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Oh come on, I got Inkscape Portable 0.47pre4 out just then :-)
09:33:52 <ChrisMorgan|Away> away
09:34:15 <Horusofoz> Does anyone know of any OSS audio book managers for Windows?
09:36:29 <Horusofoz> Come on guys. There's a lot of brains in this room. Doesn't anyone know of any audio book managers at all?
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10:01:21 <Horusofoz> :(
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10:21:40 <Horusofoz> nite
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10:35:21 <ChrisMorgan> A wise man once said (well, I just made it up, that qualifies doesn't it?), the brains must be paying attention before they will "know" anything...
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15:30:19 <GizmoBot> OliverK has a most witty .def
15:30:19 <GizmoBot> OliverK has a most witty .def
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16:09:09 <andreasma> hi
16:09:16 <OliverK> hey
16:10:04 <andreasma> howdy OliverK
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16:53:28 <Gizmokid2005> Updated: Songbird Portable 1.4 Beta 3 PR1: http://portableapps.com/node/20886
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17:37:22 <DoctorDude> Hi
17:39:09 <DoctorDude> What does this mean Flash Drive Note: Most modern flash drives use wear leveling to spread write operations out over a device. This interferes with EraserDrop's (and other secure deletion utilities) ability to wipe single files. Wiping an entire drive or erasing a file and then wiping free space should still work securely, though it will put additional wear on your drive. Does it mean if I use Anti recovery software that
17:39:53 <Gizmokid2005> DoctorDude: you got cut off.
17:40:15 <DoctorDude> what?
17:40:22 <OliverK> to much typing
17:40:26 <Gizmokid2005> Does it mean if I use Anti recovery software that <-- is where you ended.
17:40:28 <OliverK> repast the last half
17:41:14 <DoctorDude> that my USB flash drive would soon or later stop working well
17:41:44 <Gizmokid2005> DoctorDude: it's a problem with every USB flash drive
17:41:57 <Gizmokid2005> it's just saying, the more often you do a full wipe like that, the more use/wear you are putting on the drive
17:42:02 <Gizmokid2005> which means it won't last as long in terms of time.
17:43:39 <DoctorDude> Is it the same thing about other softwares
17:46:35 <Gizmokid2005> DoctorDude: yes.
17:46:47 <Gizmokid2005> I managed to kill my flash drive twice because I ran so many apps from it ALL the time.
17:46:55 <Gizmokid2005> so I had to switch to an actual external hard drive.
17:49:15 <DoctorDude> And just use one software or 2 times is it any way to recover the last the from my USB flash drive
17:49:38 <DoctorDude> no it sounds strange
17:49:44 <DoctorDude> I mean
17:50:53 <DoctorDude> I just use one software or 2 at the time. But is it any way to recover the last time to save my USB flash drive
17:51:23 <Gizmokid2005> DoctorDude: I still don't understand...my best advice is to backup frequently.
17:52:30 <DoctorDude> So by using PortableApps Platform I am killing my USB flash drive.
17:52:53 <Gizmokid2005> DoctorDude: no.
17:53:03 <Gizmokid2005> I mean, technically yes, but even saving a document to it is killing it.
17:53:08 <Gizmokid2005> it's the same thing with using a computer
17:53:22 <Gizmokid2005> except most computer hardware has a life in hours not use cycles.
17:54:19 <MaienM> DoctorDude: basically by using your drive in ANY way, you are slowly wearing it down and at some point it will break
17:54:33 <MaienM> its just the way flash drives work
17:55:34 <DoctorDude> So basiclly any portable drive?
17:57:22 <MaienM> any portable flash drive, yes
17:57:43 <MaienM> its different for portable hard drives though
17:58:41 <DoctorDude> That really sucks. No really I finally found something awesome. This is really bad design drives
17:59:38 <MaienM> now don't get freaked out, with normal use a flash drive will last for a couple of years
18:00:58 <Gizmokid2005> DoctorDude: like MaienM said, typically a flash drive will last for a few hundred thousand read/write cycles.
18:01:00 <DoctorDude> I use my flash drive almost every day
18:01:06 <Gizmokid2005> and they are getting better month.
18:01:37 <Gizmokid2005> but unless you use firefox and thunderbird and pidgin and other apps 24/7, you will get at least a few years out of your drive.
18:06:16 <DoctorDude> like 4 years?
18:07:00 <OliverK> perhaps. It depends on the drive, the size, how much of the drive you use, how long\often, and how hard
18:10:57 <DoctorDude> Why not make a long lasting USB Flash that can work to maybe 10 years. I use my Flash Drive almost all the time because It is like Windows in the pocket
18:11:12 <DoctorDude> USB flash Drive
18:13:28 <DoctorDude> I was kinda suprised
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18:17:02 <DoctorDude> I am gonna leave now
18:17:12 <DoctorDude> But thanks for your help
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18:21:30 <OliverK> buy a 128 gb drive and use 1 gb of it
18:21:33 <OliverK> ta-dah!
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19:33:47 <JohnTHaller> hola
19:37:22 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
19:38:16 <ZachThibeau> did you see Patrick's blog post yet?
19:38:42 <JohnTHaller> I did. Already chatted with him.
19:39:00 <ZachThibeau> ohh ok
19:39:22 <ZachThibeau> I'm going to miss him on the forums
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19:55:36 <Bensawsome> pat is leaving? D:
19:55:48 <JohnTHaller> yeah, i know
19:55:58 <Bensawsome> that sucks :(
20:16:34 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: AssaultCube 1.0.4: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-13_-_assaultcube_portable_1.0.4
20:18:41 <ZachThibeau> I had a rather cool idea that we could try in the future and that idea is an audio/video confrence :D
20:41:29 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
20:58:20 <andreasma> hi
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21:16:41 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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21:53:59 <ptmb> Hi gluxon
21:54:01 <gluxon> ptmb, join #FCoFix, rcmaehl's going crazy.
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22:10:33 <ZachThibeau> howdy powerjuce
22:10:43 <powerjuce> ello there ZachThibeau
22:10:43 <powerjuce> hi all
22:10:43 <powerjuce> how are u?
22:10:54 <ZachThibeau> tired but doing fine :)
22:15:31 <Chazz> howdy powerjuce :)
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22:15:41 <powerjuce> hey Chazz
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23:40:58 <JohnTHaller> anything exciting happening tonight?
23:41:07 <Chazz> Nope. :P
23:41:32 * Chazz thinks he might go back to coding BP
23:42:35 <Bensawsome> i went to olive gardens :3
23:42:36 <Bensawsome> lol
23:43:25 <Bensawsome> well off to bring my bnc up again -_-
23:43:27 <Chazz> lol, nice Bensawsome
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23:45:37 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: haha, exciting?? lol. not really, playing some games, keeping an eye on SBP 1.4B3 for any issues, contemplating going to Tbird3B4 full-time, installing halo on Win7...
23:45:44 <Gizmokid2005> :D
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23:48:42 <Chazz> :o
23:48:51 <Chazz> JohnTHaller, you added 3 new apps today! :o
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23:53:47 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
23:54:02 <Chazz> wb Gizmokid2005
23:54:23 <Gizmokid2005> ty, apparently Halo decided i MUST reboot...right that seconds.
23:54:25 <Gizmokid2005> *second.
23:54:33 <Chazz> oh
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23:58:05 <JohnTHaller> Chazz: yes, I did indeeed. gonna release more new stuff this week
23:58:17 <Chazz> Ah, awesome JohnTHaller :)