IRC Log from 2009-10-16
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00:32:11 <pa_2023> help!
00:32:12 <GizmoBot> pa_2023: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
00:33:27 <JohnTHaller> what seems to be the issue?
00:33:44 <pa_2023> what dll files should be on a machine to make a program like blender run on it I am asking because at my work we only have xp but it seems to be a more limited version because the program will not start but it will run fine on my own computer
00:34:12 <JohnTHaller> what happens when you try and start it by running BlenderPortable.exe?
00:34:26 <pa_2023> it also happens with some other common programs like the new warzone 2100 portable
00:34:57 <JohnTHaller> does anything happen at all or just the splash screen and then nothing?
00:35:08 <pa_2023> the icon shows that it is trying to load and then a black command prompt window opens and then nothing actually starts
00:35:26 <JohnTHaller> icon? do you mean the splash screen?
00:36:09 <pa_2023> oh yeah sorry splash screen
00:36:34 <pa_2023> i know it is a missing dll issue because i have had to copy them onto these computers before but i just cant remember which ones are missing
00:36:42 <JohnTHaller> sounds like there may be something missing on the local machine then.
00:37:06 <JohnTHaller> yeah, not sure which version of the C++ library they require. But a fully-updated XP machine normally has them all (only Win 2K should need em).
00:37:58 <pa_2023> yeah no its a stripped down version of windows for my work because i have copied them into the system32 folder before but we just wiped the machines again and i have lost the dll files that i copied and pasted into the machine
00:38:32 <pa_2023> is there a handy dandy list of required dll files that should be on the local machine somewhere maybe
00:38:32 <JohnTHaller> You can try running the blender or warzone EXE directly in that case. it won't start but will show you the error of what is missing, which should help. and when you find out, if you could post in the forums... we can probably come up with a fix.
00:39:09 <pa_2023> yeah i used to get an error with older versions because that was how i found out what was missing but now i cant seem to get an error to come up
00:39:12 <JohnTHaller> Ideally, we try to bundle stuff like the VC++ 7 and up runtimes with the apps. You'lll find em in OpenOffice.org, ClamWin and some of our other apps.
00:39:58 <JohnTHaller> The error won't come up when running WarzonePortable.exe. It will come up if you browse into Warzone2100Portable\App\Warzone 2100 and run warzone2100.exe though./
00:40:00 <pa_2023> okay i will give it a go thanks a ton i will admit i am kinda suprised to find anyone hanging out in irc ready and willing to help
00:40:11 <pa_2023> got ya let me try that
00:40:20 <JohnTHaller> So try running that and let us know what is missing. And we can help from there :-)
00:40:50 <pa_2023> lets see it says openal32.dll missing so i will find that and go from there
00:41:03 <pa_2023> awesome and thank you john :-)
00:41:15 <JohnTHaller> hmm... that's odd. I think I know the fix for that. I'll check and should have a fix in the forum tomorrow.
00:41:29 <pa_2023> its all good man
00:42:03 <JohnTHaller> alright all, I gota sign out for a bit. ZachThibeau you're the support point person :-)
00:42:16 <ZachThibeau> ok
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00:50:09 <pa_2612> so i guess this will go to whoever might see this from before but i am the guy with all of the dll file problems and the ones i was missing were glu32.dll and opengl32.dll just thought i should let whover know because with those on the system now everything runs fine
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01:21:18 <pa_1613> Hello?
01:21:28 <pa_1613> help!
01:21:36 <GizmoBot> pa_1613: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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01:21:55 <pa_1613> Hello using Eraser portable 5.
01:22:09 <pa_1613> 5.8.7 and the erasing settings aren't staying
01:23:13 <pa_1613> I go to change the wiping algorithm, close the window, and its back to the 35 pass for files, and 1 random for wiping freespace
01:23:25 <pa_1613> Is anyone there?
01:24:19 <pa_1613> Fixed it, I reinstalled it,
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01:38:04 <starace7> hi
01:38:57 <starace7> wat is ctcp version?
01:39:32 <starace7> m new to portable apps. was wondering if it is bootable? it doesn't specify this on the website.
01:43:12 <starace7> anyone alive in here?
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02:31:13 <JohnTHaller> alright, I am off to bed all... gnight
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06:01:36 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
06:01:59 <Chazz> howdy ChrisMorgan
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06:57:52 <Horusofoz> YoYo :p
06:58:03 <Chazz> Howdy Horusofoz ^_^
06:58:06 <ChrisMorgan> hey Horusofoz
06:58:23 <Horusofoz> Hey Chazz and ChrisMorgan :)
06:58:49 <Horusofoz> What's the topic?
06:59:04 <Chazz> Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | SF CCA Wins: http://portableapps.com/node/20079
06:59:10 <Chazz> Horusofoz, ^^ :P
06:59:48 <ChrisMorgan> Time to remove SF CCA Wins I think
06:59:59 * Chazz agrees...
07:00:01 <Horusofoz> How about any hints on the freeware support that's creeping along?
07:00:17 <ChrisMorgan> Ah ha, you'll have to read the logs for that, from last time John was in here.
07:00:24 <ChrisMorgan> Day before yesterday I think it was
07:00:34 <Chazz> I think that's correct/
07:02:23 <Horusofoz> Never looked at the logs - Trying now
07:07:20 <Horusofoz> Can't find it :(
07:08:18 <ChrisMorgan> palogbot: uri
07:08:18 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-10-16#T07-08-18
07:08:45 <Horusofoz> wait just realised I started at the top reading last years news :D :D:D
07:08:47 <ChrisMorgan> http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/?t=2009-10-14#T02-00-27
07:14:32 <Horusofoz> Fairly vague.
07:30:57 <Bensawsome> nooooo nevah for freeware
07:31:05 <Bensawsome> open source is bettah :D
07:31:23 <Bensawsome> not open source stuff is evil =_=
07:31:25 <Bensawsome> lol
07:32:11 <Chazz> lol
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07:37:48 <Horusofoz> Anyone having issues with sound in the Warzone Rev2 release?
07:39:23 <Horusofoz> I get no sound at all :( Downgrading to prerelease to see if issue recurs
07:42:06 <Horusofoz> Ok issue isolated to final release :(
07:45:34 <Horusofoz> nitey nite guys
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07:55:16 <pa_BOB> HELLO
07:55:47 <pa_BOB> could you please tell me , How can i organize applications withing program groups in the menu ?
07:56:32 <pa_BOB> help!
07:56:33 <GizmoBot> pa_BOB: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
07:57:28 <pa_BOB> How can i organize applications within program groups in the menu of portableapps , to avoide scroll up and down ???
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12:00:36 <pa_9241> hello, according to Secunia PSI OpenOffice Portable version 3.1.9398.500 is flawed, flaw rated "Highly Critical" (http://secunia.com/advisories/35036/). Please update. TIA. Leffort
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13:15:07 <pa_4384> hallo leute hi people
13:15:37 <pa_4384> i have a question. how can i a a .bat or .cmd file to lunch menue?
13:20:04 <sar3th> did you try http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps ?
13:20:33 <OliverK> sar3th: won't work :p
13:20:39 <OliverK> pa_4384: here's what you need http://portableapps.com/node/20498
13:45:02 <pa_4384> thx
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14:04:14 <pa_4384> it just opens the folder but not start the app
14:04:40 <McNinja> no, you can use it to start the bat file if you would like
14:04:55 <McNinja> just instead of the folder put the filename of the bat file in
14:07:23 <pa_4384> hmm
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14:09:16 <OliverK> ta-dah
14:15:52 <pa_4384> work but only with two folder?? not with only one
14:26:13 <OliverK> ?
14:26:27 <OliverK> sjould work with anything, and if you do it correctly, multiple folders
14:28:51 <pa_4384> I have found out how it works :-)))
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14:44:06 <skykid2> help
14:44:21 <OliverK> okay
14:44:26 <OliverK> what do you need?
14:45:39 <skykid2> the problem i have is i got an error message the other day saying my address book master was curroped and I for gotten to write the whole error messege down
14:46:22 <skykid2> it said something about it would make a copy of it and make a new one and now when i go to that pirticaular address book it is empty
14:46:38 <OliverK> hmm . . . .
14:46:44 <OliverK> thunderbird?
14:46:54 <OliverK> i'm not really familiar with that application.
14:46:55 <skykid2> yes thunder bird portable
14:47:17 <OliverK> You're more then welcome to hang out here, and possibly somepne who knows more can help
14:47:31 <OliverK> or you can post something in the forums
14:48:50 <skykid2> ok thank you i am sure it has to be backed up some where or somesomething
14:49:04 <OliverK> yeah
14:49:23 <OliverK> if you poke around in thunderbirdportable\data you may find something that can help you
14:49:43 <OliverK> just copy that directory to another location so you have a backup in case something else gets messed up
14:51:54 <skykid2> good idea thank you
14:52:22 <OliverK> no problem, sorry I can't help you any more then that
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15:14:11 <Simeon1> hi all
15:14:17 <OliverK> howdy
15:14:29 <Simeon1> have to get my name back :)
15:14:52 <OliverK> okay
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15:15:41 <Simeon> ok done :)
15:16:37 <Simeon> anything going on or is it just a boring weekend with a couple nerds that are here instead of being out at parties ;)?
15:17:07 <OliverK> why would I go to a party?
15:17:10 <OliverK> :D
15:17:12 <OliverK> holy shit, its a sunny day today!
15:17:20 <OliverK> i just looked out my window
15:17:26 * OliverK debated that comment
15:19:37 <OliverK> hey, I go the vbox additions to install in virtual box\ubuntu!
15:19:38 <OliverK> :D
15:20:14 <Simeon> whats that with vbox?
15:20:43 <OliverK> i installed ubuntu into virtual box
15:20:48 <Simeon> ah
15:20:56 <OliverK> and then I installed the vbox additions
15:21:06 * OliverK needs to figure out how to add the netowrk place, but . . . .
15:21:09 <Simeon> what do they add
15:21:12 <Simeon> ?
15:21:27 <OliverK> add a network folder in ubuntu
15:21:32 * OliverK linux noob
15:21:35 <Simeon> so you can exchange files?
15:21:37 <OliverK> yup
15:21:50 * OliverK wants to install packet tracer to dah ubunutus
15:21:57 <OliverK> maybe get it into bt4 if I can :D
15:22:01 <Simeon> cool. i had virtualbox once for putting win xp inside my linux box :)
15:22:10 <Simeon> bt4?
15:22:16 <OliverK> backtrack 4
15:22:31 <OliverK> its based on ubuntu instead of slax like the last couple releases
15:22:56 <OliverK> cisco release a networking emulator, and you'r supposed to be able to install it into ubuntu
15:23:08 <OliverK> of course, that was 7.x so I don't know if it works anymore
15:23:16 <Simeon> ah
15:23:16 <OliverK> maybe itll be nice like with the addons
15:23:35 <Simeon> John has had a pretty active week hasnt he?
15:23:52 <Simeon> i was really amazed!
15:26:46 <OliverK> yeah
15:26:49 * OliverK is pretty happy
15:27:39 <Mir> :)
15:28:16 <Mir> OliverK: a packet trace?
15:28:22 <Mir> tracer?
15:28:28 <OliverK> tracer*
15:28:31 <OliverK> yeah
15:28:35 <OliverK> why?
15:29:25 <Mir> i need one because when i did a speed test and ping test my upload failed for what i pay for (.15Mbps) and i am loosing packets
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15:29:40 <Mir> my internets failed
15:30:09 <Mir> and i sighned a 2 year contrat with em =_=
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15:31:32 <OliverK> cisco packet tracer
15:31:36 <OliverK> the name IS NOT apt
15:31:37 <OliverK> :D
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15:33:03 <Mir> not apt?
15:33:12 <skykid2> is there in any one in here that knows about thunderbird address book problems
15:33:14 <Mir> i cant apt
15:33:30 <OliverK> not apt
15:33:31 <OliverK> not fitting
15:33:34 <Mir> OliverK: can we discuss in ot due to support being needed?
15:33:40 <OliverK> jah
15:33:47 <OliverK> can anybody help him though?
15:34:00 <Mir> skykid2: someone will be around to help you please be patient
15:34:10 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> skykid2: what kind of address book issues?
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15:35:32 <skykid2> here is the Problem -
15:35:34 <skykid2> skykid2: the problem i have is i got an error message the other day saying my address book master was curroped and I for gotten to write the whole error messege down
15:35:34 <skykid2> skykid2: it said something about it would make a copy of it and make a new one and now when i go to that pirticaular address book it is empty
15:36:05 <skykid2> where is that copy stored
15:36:18 <skykid2> and how do i prevent this from happinging again
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15:36:53 <Gizmokid2005> skykid2: unfortunately, there's not a lot of help we can give you with it, that's actually a Thunderbird issue, and you'll need to talk with the thunderbird team about it
15:37:15 <Gizmokid2005> skykid2: look here: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/support/
15:38:06 <skykid2> thank you so much
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15:38:23 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome skykid2
15:39:36 * OliverK wishes gluxon would post version 4 so that he could review it and give it tah seal :D
15:40:05 <Simeon> there should be a backup copy of your addressbook inside the ThunderbirdPortable/App folder.
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16:03:54 <pa_4704> help!
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16:04:46 <Simeon> how can I help you?
16:05:03 <pa_4704> how do i find out which version i have of portable apps?
16:05:16 <Simeon> a specific Application or the menu?
16:05:24 <pa_4704> the menu
16:05:55 <Simeon> wait a sec
16:06:28 <pa_4704> and should i care? i was just hoping to update to the latest version (if there was one)
16:06:44 <Simeon> there is a about button
16:07:31 <Simeon> or you go to help-update and let it check.
16:07:41 <Simeon> it connects to the net and shows you if there is an update
16:07:42 <pa_4704> i dont see it, but i searched through the files on the flash drive, it looks like i have version 1
16:08:04 <pa_4704> oh really? the help does have an update, i didnt see it
16:08:16 <Simeon> then just download the latest version from here: http://portableapps.com/download
16:08:29 <Simeon> maybe its not in your version if you really have version 1.
16:08:38 <pa_4704> will the latest version overwright my current version
16:08:43 <Simeon> i dont have an older version atm to check.
16:08:50 <pa_4704> what version do u have?
16:08:57 <Simeon> it will but all your settings will remain intact.
16:09:04 <Simeon> I have 1.5.2
16:09:16 <pa_4704> allright, im gonna go to that download site, and update now, thanks!
16:09:26 <pa_4704> hopefully all my files will remain too
16:09:27 <Simeon> glad I could help.
16:09:32 <pa_4704> ??
16:09:33 <Simeon> yes
16:09:38 <pa_4704> excellent, thats what i like to hear
16:09:47 <pa_4704> thanks
16:09:56 <Simeon> if you want to be 1000% sure do a backup before you upgrade with the built in backup tool.
16:10:08 <Simeon> but that shouldnt be necessary
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16:28:56 <pa_4571> well im installing the new version as i type right now
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16:30:14 <Simeon> are you the same who was here some time ago?
16:30:19 <pa_4571> yup
16:30:22 <Simeon> ok
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16:30:33 <Simeon> Tasty :)
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16:31:22 <fish3578> anyways, its installing right now
16:31:38 <fish3578> bout 3/4 done, i installed the full version
16:31:53 <Simeon> full meaning the whole suite?
16:32:11 <Simeon> and not just the menu/Platform?
16:32:30 <Simeon> some of the Apps there are outdated so you might want to check for updates.
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16:33:07 <fish3578> yes
16:33:12 <fish3578> whole suite
16:33:26 <Simeon> did you have a lot of Apps before you installed it?
16:33:35 <fish3578> no, i only had the light version i believe
16:33:44 <Simeon> ok
16:33:51 <fish3578> i have 8 gig
16:33:54 <fish3578> flash drive
16:34:00 <fish3578> should not be a problem
16:34:13 <Simeon> light is like whole but with Abiword instead of OPen office.
16:34:23 <fish3578> ahh, i see
16:34:50 <fish3578> hey, here is a general question not about port.apps....is everyone updating to windows 7?
16:34:59 <Simeon> Because some Apps are outdated, I always recommend to install only the platform and then add the apps you want/need because in the end it saves you time cause now you have to go and update most of the Apps.
16:35:18 <Simeon> I am on linux so I cant help you with windows 7 :)
16:35:29 <Oliver|NCAM> fish3578: nope, I am not updating to windows 7
16:35:38 <Oliver|NCAM> i have installed it on a vm, but that's on my other computer
16:35:44 <Oliver|NCAM> i'm "portable" right now :D
16:37:08 <fish3578> ahh linux....i tried ubuntu once, and it would not install for me....i gave up, but its always been what i wanted to do
16:37:38 <Simeon> I still have windows but only for developing portable Apps :)
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16:40:36 <fish3578> thanks guys, i'll remember this chat, excellent!
16:40:41 <fish3578> later
16:40:45 <Simeon> ok
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17:28:37 <Simeon> hi WastePuree
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18:47:29 <andreasma> hi
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20:13:09 <JohnTHaller> hola
20:14:00 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
20:14:57 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
20:15:39 <ZachThibeau> 9 more hours of work done for today :D time for more work on programming related stuff now
20:19:07 <JohnTHaller> make something now!
20:21:49 <ZachThibeau> I've been working actually on a small project that incorperates basic winamp like features and some ideas borrowed from foobar2000 (read audio files from file archives etc)
20:22:13 <JohnTHaller> ah
20:22:21 <Gizmokid2005> how goes it JohnTHaller?
20:22:22 <JohnTHaller> we're doing xmplay as one of our freeware apps
20:22:53 <ZachThibeau> well my app is something I'm coding from scratch :P
20:23:04 <ZachThibeau> and in wxwidgets too :)
20:26:45 <ZachThibeau> oops I didn't eat breakfast or lunch, brb getting some supper :)
20:33:42 <ZachThibeau> back :)
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20:40:46 <ZachThibeau> howdy markomlm
20:40:58 <Gizmokid2005> brb
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20:41:22 <markomlm> Howdy ZachThibeau, @all
20:42:00 <markomlm> JohnTHaller:You've got mail ;-)
20:45:48 <JohnTHaller> hi markomlm
20:46:09 <markomlm> Hi JohnTHaller
20:46:26 <markomlm> Sorry again for the delay :-(
20:48:39 <JohnTHaller> it's ok
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20:52:47 <JohnTHaller> markomlm: the script doesn't work as given. I set it up with the pa_root set and it's complaining the wget had no URL passed
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21:25:39 <markomlm> bye
21:25:42 <markomlm> :-)
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21:59:56 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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