IRC Log from 2009-10-22

00:01:40 <qwertymodo> i think I'll stick to SVN xxx as the display version since that's how they're referred to at vba-m.com
00:02:46 <ZachThibeau> alrighty then what ever works for you
00:04:18 <qwertymodo> also, if I'm just updating the original app without changing any of the portable stuff does that count as a new dev test or not?
00:06:06 <ZachThibeau> I would say since it's a new version of the app, whats your thought John?
00:07:01 <JohnTHaller> yeah, it's a new dev test
00:07:21 <JohnTHaller> I just posted Google Chrome Portable: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-21_-_google_chrome_portable_3.0.195.27
00:07:52 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: about Pidgin Portable, is there any way that you can split out custom stuff like you did for plugins? or is that not possible?
00:07:58 <Gizmokid2005> maybe some manipulation with the launcher?
00:08:28 <JohnTHaller> It would have to be done for every single plugin since they're all different and all at random DLLs.
00:08:53 <Gizmokid2005> thats what I was wondering JohnTHaller, I'd say don't do it...because that particular DLL can have multiple names...
00:09:00 <Gizmokid2005> and it doesn't make sense to try and support all of theme
00:09:03 <Gizmokid2005> *themn
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00:09:11 <Gizmokid2005> btw - GC's link 404's
00:09:16 <Gizmokid2005> to the actual app
00:09:29 <Gizmokid2005> You forgot an underscore
00:10:35 <JohnTHaller> oops fixed
00:11:26 <Gizmokid2005> The "GoogleChromePortable_3.0.195.27_online.paf.exe" file could not be found or is not available. Please select another file.
00:12:07 <JohnTHaller> WFM
00:12:12 <ZachThibeau> probably take a little bit to load on sf.net
00:12:32 <Gizmokid2005> now it's there :)
00:12:33 <JohnTHaller> oops.. no WFM now
00:12:40 <Gizmokid2005> WFM?
00:12:47 <JohnTHaller> and no WFM again
00:12:51 <JohnTHaller> WFM - Works For Me
00:12:54 <Gizmokid2005> ahh
00:12:55 <Gizmokid2005> right
00:12:57 <JohnTHaller> now WFM again
00:13:00 <Gizmokid2005> WFM now
00:13:05 <Gizmokid2005> probably sf just not playing nice again
00:13:05 <ZachThibeau> ditto
00:14:03 <JohnTHaller> work for you ZachThibeau?
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00:18:58 <GizmoBot> Whibo sets mode +thanks to Chazz
00:21:03 * qwertymodo likes 2xClient :D
00:28:27 <qwertymodo> bye all, wish me luck on my calc II exam...
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00:35:16 <GizmoBot> Whibo sets mode +thanks to Chazz
00:35:28 <Oni-Neoxes> Whoa!
00:35:33 <Oni-Neoxes> Google Chrome portable!?
00:35:40 <Gizmokid2005> Oni-Neoxes: wake up :P
00:35:55 <Oni-Neoxes> Just saw it on my twitter Gizmokid2005 >_.
00:36:01 <Oni-Neoxes> I'm barely on the site :p
00:36:04 <Gizmokid2005> rss ftw
00:36:05 <Gizmokid2005> :D
00:36:39 <Oni-Neoxes> I don't understand RSS :p
00:37:39 <Gizmokid2005> it's easier than twitter :P
00:37:46 <Gizmokid2005> especially if you have a google account
00:37:54 <Oni-Neoxes> I have google :p
00:38:02 <Oni-Neoxes> Google voice and google wave too :p
00:38:58 <Gizmokid2005> see, then use google reader and add RSS :P
00:40:02 <Oni-Neoxes> seems kind of... akward
00:40:36 <Gizmokid2005> nah
00:40:40 <Gizmokid2005> Rss feeds rock :)
00:40:47 <Gizmokid2005> if you use Thunderbird, native support
00:40:49 <Gizmokid2005> or RSSOwl
00:40:56 <Gizmokid2005> even FF has live bookmarks
00:41:00 <Gizmokid2005> so you can just use them.
00:41:25 <ZachThibeau> sorry John was afk but yeah it worked for me
00:48:07 <Oni-Neoxes> Gizmokid2005, do you use a RSS addon for Firefox?
00:48:12 <Gizmokid2005> NOpe.
00:48:22 <ZachThibeau> firefox has built in rss :P
00:48:26 <Gizmokid2005> I used to use T-bird, and when V3 is final, I'll probably go back to it, but right now I'm using RSSOwl
00:48:29 <ZachThibeau> not like a dedi but it works
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01:14:46 <JohnTHaller> anybody in here having misgivings about adding in freeware to our lists? Seems Steviosiak is annoyed: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-20_-_2x_client_portable_7.3.727#comment-130585
01:16:33 <Bensawsome> JohnTHaller as long as it's clearly marked whether it is freeware or trialware i have no objections myself
01:16:41 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I think you're going to run into that no matter what. Some people just think they know it all, some people are just thick.
01:16:53 <Gizmokid2005> I think, as long as the apps are ALL freeware, and NO trialware, it's perfectly fine
01:17:02 <Gizmokid2005> it keeps with the adage of PortableApps.com
01:17:06 <Bensawsome> btw JohnTHaller it's just the 2x server that is a trial; thing. and they didnt even make that portable
01:17:16 <Bensawsome> the client is free :3
01:17:22 <Bensawsome> and it actually looks pretty nice
01:17:32 <Bensawsome> i been trying it on windows and i like it :D
01:18:04 <JohnTHaller> even the server is free for a 3-connection license. 30day trial is for more connections.
01:18:05
01:18:28 <JohnTHaller> Free Software (capital F) means open source. Freeware is no cost (as in money) software.
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01:19:49 <xangua> agg so much confusing
01:19:59 <xangua> i preffer just say software libre
01:20:19 <xangua> well much !ot , shut up xangua !!! :)
01:20:30 <JohnTHaller> That's why we use the term Open Source in English.
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01:21:53 <Gizmokid2005> anyway, great to see the releases John. I'm off for now. See ya
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01:25:13 <OliverK> howdy all
01:26:34 <JohnTHaller> hola
01:26:44 <OliverK> my bad on the ctcp, sorry
01:26:50 <OliverK> how ya doing?
01:27:04 <JohnTHaller> bad OliverK. sit in the corner
01:27:10 <OliverK> :p
01:29:32 <OliverK> not to pester, did you get my email?
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02:09:52 <Spaceghost> hi
02:10:30 <Spaceghost> congrats for the portage of google chrome
02:11:44 <Spaceghost> I ever use portable apps, and I ever am in freenode, but is the first time that I entry in that channel
02:11:53 <Spaceghost> sorry for my english, is bad
02:13:52 <Spaceghost> now I can test and use google chrome
02:13:52 <Spaceghost> thanks
02:24:22 <Spaceghost> uhmm
02:24:30 <Spaceghost> chrome don't run
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03:07:21 <Bensawsome> what does it say/do Spaceghost?
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03:21:25 <pa_3794> hi
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03:30:14 <Spaceghost> Bensawsome, I download google chrome and don't work
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08:57:36 <Horusofoz> Spam - http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-21_-_google_chrome_portable_3.0.195.27#comment-130673
08:58:08 <Horusofoz> Looks like relevant post but has only copied and pasted a previous comment in the thread then added the spam link
08:59:52 <Horusofoz> Ciao
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09:08:16 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
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11:08:38 <mivmann> Hi, I seem to have some trouble installing the Google chrome app - The installation aborts.
11:08:48 <ChrisMorgan> What's the error message that you get?
11:09:24 <ChrisMorgan> Have you got an fully working (no dropouts etc.) internet connection while you're installing it? Google Chrome Portable is an online installer (it downloads Chrome from Google's server)
11:10:21 <mivmann> It an error when extracting the app - it will start the installation again to get the exact error message
11:10:41 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... so it's downloaded it OK but can't extract it.
11:11:37 <mivmann> The error message is: ERROR: (chrome.7z > App)
11:12:42 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think that I know enough to make a full judgement; it's probably best if you post a new thread in http://portableapps.com/forums/support/other_apps
11:13:08 <mivmann> allright - thanks
11:13:37 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't looked at how Chrome Portable handles the download mechanism, whether it checks the checksum. It may be a faulty download, I don't know
11:14:59 <mivmann> I will try downloading it again to ensure its not a faulty download
11:15:06 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks :-)
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14:30:29 <JohnTHaller> hola
14:30:45 <JohnTHaller> Posted SpyDLLRemover this morning: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-22_-_spydllremover_portable_2.5
14:30:55 <JohnTHaller> And just posted our debut of Skype Portable: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-22_-_skype_portable_4.1
14:34:22 <Bensawsome> :D
14:34:32 <Bensawsome> Skype :)
14:35:00 <Bensawsome> So how has ur day been JohnTHaller
14:35:22 <Bensawsome> Other then all the awesome releases
14:35:41 <JohnTHaller> More to come still, too.
14:36:35 <Bensawsome> Sweeeeeeet
14:39:16 <Bensawsome> Well I better be off to web dev class
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15:33:39 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is currently working on a super cool media player called musicplay3000 aka mp3k
15:33:50 <ZachThibeau> howdy y'all
15:36:20 <sar3th> hey ZachThibeau
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15:55:30 <pa_9142> HAVING DIFFICULTY DOWNLOADING THE PORTABLE APPS INSTALLER?
15:56:06 <ZachThibeau> please turn off your caps
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15:57:11 <ZachThibeau> chances are that you are using a mirror chosen by sourceforge.net, my suggestions pa_9142 is to try another mirror and redownload again
15:57:32 <pa_9142> OK
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16:00:52 <JohnTHaller> Finally posted the freeware announcement: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-22_-_portableapps.com_debuts_freeware_portable_apps
16:01:33 <sar3th> nice :)
16:02:39 <WifiWombat> cool
16:03:45 <JohnTHaller> lemme know any thoughts on it please. i tried to explain it all to folks who may freak out.
16:04:08 <JohnTHaller> but I must eat something... haven't had breakfast yet and it's noon
16:04:32 <WifiWombat> :O
16:04:35 <WifiWombat> eat!
16:05:17 <sar3th> i really like the article JohnTHaller :) the explanation is very detailed :)
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16:09:51 <pa_7841> Good Morning. I just had a quick question. I know there is a way to run PortableApps packaged software in U3. Is there a way to run U3 apps in PortableApps?
16:10:09 <Mir> not that i recall
16:10:15 <WifiWombat> no
16:10:30 <WifiWombat> they can coexist on the same stick, but the u3 menu will not run non-u3 software
16:10:36 <WifiWombat> and visa versa
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16:12:10 <pa_7841> Ok. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure as there are some apps that are packaged for U3 that have not made their way to PortableApps...well, not yet anyways.
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16:32:13 <Mir> o hai thar OliverK
16:32:21 <OliverK> howdy Mir
16:32:22 <Mir> didnt see you there
16:32:24 <OliverK> :D
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16:32:44 <Mir> hopefully not from me ;>.>
16:34:07 <OliverK> nope
16:34:16 <Mir> whew -_-
16:41:39 <sar3th> portable chrome 3.0 on lifehacker: http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/TNalldjBp5Y/chrome-portable-30-lets-you-take-googles-browser-anywhere
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17:14:23 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
17:14:38 <SteveLamerton> Hello ZachThibeau
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17:15:11 <SteveLamerton> Anyone know when John will be back?
17:15:28 <OliverK> after lunch I gather
17:15:45 <SteveLamerton> Ok :)
17:15:49 <SteveLamerton> .seen markomlm
17:15:50 <GizmoBot> SteveLamerton: I last saw markomlm at 2009-10-16 21:25:42 UTC on #portableapps
17:16:08 <SteveLamerton> And hello OliverK
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17:19:22 <JohnTHaller> hi SteveLamerton
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17:20:33 <SteveLamerton> Hello JohnTHaller, just wondering if you or Marko were planning on going to FOSDEM ( http://www.fosdem.org/2010/ ) next year?
17:22:10 <JohnTHaller> don't know at the moment. I don't have the cash to go to Belgium right now.
17:23:25 <SteveLamerton> No problem, I will ask Marko when I next see him, I potentially have the option to go with a few people from the computer society here (this is very early stage planning mind you) and wondered if it might be worth trying to grab a stand or do a 'lightning talk' for PortableApps
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17:25:52 <MaienM> hmm, Belgium is pretty close :)
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17:26:29 <JohnTHaller> we'll see... we have a prospective hardware partner in brussels, actually
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17:27:37 <SteveLamerton> Have to apply by the end of november for a stand and the end of december for a talk, just thought I would throw it out there :)
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17:29:26 <SteveLamerton> MaienM, where are you?
17:29:36 <JohnTHaller> ah, yeah, I won't have the cash by then, sadly
17:29:43 <MaienM> SteveLamerton: the Netherlands
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17:30:25 <SteveLamerton> MaienM, closer than me then ;)
17:30:51 <MaienM> where are you SteveLamerton?
17:31:49 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller, no worries, I'm talking with the computer society at the moment, especially about funding so I should have some more info soon, I guess the main question is would you mind if I were to talk or a few of us europeans did a stand?
17:31:52 <SteveLamerton> MaienM, the UK
17:33:03 <MaienM> yeah then you definitely are a bit farther away than I am. I could (theoretically) go there by train ;)
17:33:20 <SteveLamerton> MaienM, that is probably how I would get there too ;)
17:33:36 <JohnTHaller> I think that'd be cool
17:33:47 <MaienM> it would take a bit more time though :P
17:35:10 <SteveLamerton> Excellent, I'll see what I can get sorted then!
17:36:05 <JohnTHaller> Ok. I may be able to pull together some drives to give away by then.
17:36:41 <SteveLamerton> Ok that would be great, I cant promise anything, but it looks fairly hopeful at the moment
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17:38:56 <SteveLamerton> MaienM, do you know any one else from Europe?
17:39:31 <SteveLamerton> On PortableApps that is ;)
17:39:31 <MaienM> you mean people related to pa.c?
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17:39:39 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is currently working on a super cool media player called musicplay3000 aka mp3k
17:39:47 <MaienM> not irl, no
17:39:55 <SteveLamerton> Yeah
17:40:03 <sar3th> irl?
17:40:10 <MaienM> in real life
17:40:20 <sar3th> ah
17:40:27 * Chazz points to sar3th :P
17:40:55 <SteveLamerton> I know Simeon is pretty busy these days and I think all the other devs are US / AUS
17:40:56 <MaienM> thats why I said "not in real life" Chazz ;)
17:41:07 <Chazz> ooh ;P
17:41:32 * sar3th is a bot and only exists on irc ;)
17:41:51 * Chazz wonders where to find teh codez :P
17:42:05 <MaienM> what, you too? :O
17:43:14 <SteveLamerton> Basically if there aren't many people who are interested in going then I will do a talk, if there are a few then we could do a stand
17:43:32 <Gizmokid2005> anyone here keep up with Thunderbird3 and/or plan on using it?
17:43:59 <MaienM> well I'd like to go, but I don't know whether I will be able to/whether my parents will let me
17:44:04 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005, I use it at the moment
17:44:04 <MaienM> Gizmokid2005: I use it ;)
17:44:08 <SteveLamerton> MaienM, understood :)
17:44:34 <Gizmokid2005> Ok well, for both of you, it was my understanding that lightning or some sort of calendar was to be included...yet in the recent B4 posted by john, it's not there...
17:44:45 <Gizmokid2005> have I missed something, or does it seem that has fallen through so far?
17:45:00 <sar3th> SteveLamerton: i'd love to come, i just have to coordinate it with university and i need to look if i can get the required money
17:45:18 <ZachThibeau> I would go but I also have money issues
17:45:27 <MaienM> Gizmokid2005: doesn't seem like anything like that is in it ;)
17:45:33 <ZachThibeau> $9/h part time job working monday to friday just doesn't cut it
17:46:11 <Gizmokid2005> that's what i thought MaienM. That was supposed to be one of the big things with thunderbird, calendar support native...:(
17:47:18 <MaienM> well maybe they are instead planning on expanding the lightning plugin, maybe including it?
17:47:33 <Gizmokid2005> that's what the original talk was, including it by default, making not a plugin.
17:47:45 <SteveLamerton> sar3th, likewise, that is why I cannot say I will make it!
17:47:58 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau, maybe another year :)
17:48:02 <Gizmokid2005> but it's not there yet...because I was going to switch, but there was no calendar, so I'm back to 2.0.0.22
17:48:35 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: I pay a student loan, that takes nearly half my pay and then I pay rent :P
17:48:46 <MaienM> Gizmokid2005: I mean, ship the plugin with it by default
17:48:56 <MaienM> I don't really use the callendar function anyway :P
17:49:04 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: yeah, but i heard they were actually going to integrate it.
17:49:05 <MaienM> I fail at planning stuff :P
17:49:17 <Gizmokid2005> I do, a lot, for my google calendar. I like that plugin better than standalone Sunbird.
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18:10:45 <bigjim> hello
18:10:49 <bigjim> quick question'
18:11:02 <bigjim> I just downloaded skypeportable and pidgin portable
18:11:06 <bigjim> and the .exe isn't working
18:11:45 <sar3th> hey bigjim, we'll take a look at it, just wait a bit in here
18:11:55 <bigjim> np
18:11:58 <bigjim> thanks for looking at it
18:12:09 <Gizmokid2005> bigjim: which exe?
18:12:47 <bigjim> pidginportable_2.6.3.paf.exe
18:13:16 <Gizmokid2005> what error do you get?
18:13:19 <bigjim> none
18:13:21 <bigjim> err
18:13:22 <bigjim> no
18:13:26 <bigjim> I get a win32 error
18:13:31 <Gizmokid2005> what does it say?
18:13:45 <bigjim> xxx is not a valid win32 application
18:14:02 <Gizmokid2005> try downloading the file again
18:14:06 <Gizmokid2005> delete the one you have and redownload it.
18:14:11 <bigjim> ok
18:14:16 <bigjim> I did that already
18:14:22 <bigjim> but I'll do it agAIN
18:14:23 <sar3th> i'm checking skype portable atm
18:14:24 <bigjim> woops
18:14:27 <bigjim> stupid caps
18:14:40 <Gizmokid2005> I know pidgin portable works as I downloaded it yesterday
18:15:08 <bigjim> yea, but it's not working now
18:15:14 <bigjim> hmmm
18:15:14 <bigjim> odd
18:15:26 <bigjim> I just tried to open again, and it just does nothing
18:16:14 <bigjim> nope neither one
18:16:16 <bigjim> really odd
18:16:28 <JohnTHaller> how big is the file?
18:16:29 <Gizmokid2005> any errors?
18:16:55 <JohnTHaller> just downloaded copies from 2 mirrors here, both work as expected
18:17:03 <bigjim> oh
18:17:05 <bigjim> that's not right
18:17:11 <bigjim> it says 684 bytes
18:17:16 <bigjim> that's pidginportable 2.6.3
18:17:53 <Gizmokid2005> yeah bigjim, the download isn't complete
18:17:57 <Gizmokid2005> that's a bad download :(
18:17:58 <JohnTHaller> yeah, you right clicked. don't right click.
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18:18:09 <bigjim> yea... ok
18:18:09 <GizmoBot> kai_62656 is...
18:18:30 <bigjim> I think it might be a bad link on that site... changed mirror's and it looks right now
18:18:31 <JohnTHaller> It's a redirect page, not the actual EXE file. So you've been downloading the redirect page.
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18:18:47 <bigjim> oh that's fabulou
18:18:48 <bigjim> s
18:18:57 <bigjim> ok
18:19:19 <JohnTHaller> SF does redirect pages to show ads. That's how they are able to make the money to host the files.
18:19:57 <bigjim> hey... the skype page does not redirect to sourceforge
18:20:11 <JohnTHaller> it's a direct download on our server
18:20:20 <JohnTHaller> since it's got bits in it that aren't open source
18:20:34 <kai_62656> .news
18:20:52 <bigjim> ok, that's definatly not downloading
18:20:55 <bigjim> really odd
18:21:03 <bigjim> Im using chrome... is that going to cause a conflict?
18:21:16 <bigjim> it's giving me the save/discard program warning
18:23:06 <sar3th> portableskype works for me
18:23:24 <bigjim> sar3th are you using chrome?
18:23:36 <ZachThibeau> he's an opera user :P
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18:23:58 <bigjim> ok
18:24:00 <bigjim> that was it'
18:24:00 <Gizmokid2005> WFM bigjim, ZachThibeau
18:24:10 <bigjim> I just tried in IE and it worked
18:24:16 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I'm not the one with the issue :P
18:24:17 <bigjim> some goofy error with Chrome there
18:24:31 <Gizmokid2005> not a surprise bigjim
18:25:02 <bigjim> why can't we get Chrome to work with everything !!!! ARGHHH darn you google!
18:25:07 <MaienM> it seems to be working fine for me using chrome. I just click "save" when I get that warning, then I click on the item in the bottom bar (once its finished) and click open
18:25:09 <MaienM> and voilla ;)
18:25:24 <bigjim> yea, didn't work for me for some reason
18:25:39 <bigjim> wonder if it's because I'm using dev chrome?
18:26:44 <MaienM> well the version I'm using is an (to my knowledge) not yet officially released linux version
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18:51:32 <purple> hi :), i just saw news that freeware debuts on pa.com :)
18:51:39 <purple> awesome move :)
18:51:47 <purple> already getting Chrome ;)
18:51:48 <sar3th> hey purple :)
18:51:59 <pa_3062> I am having a problem installing both Chrome portable and Skype portable - any suggestions?
18:52:23 <purple> pa_3062, let it through firewall?
18:52:27 <purple> ..if any
18:52:46 <gluxon> Yeah, do you have a firewall up?
18:52:46 <pa_3062> They both fail after downloading during install - they seem to download all the way
18:52:53 <pa_3062> windows firewall
18:53:08 <gluxon> Could you turn it off?
18:53:19 <pa_3062> normally I would get a dialog to unblock
18:53:26 <SteveLamerton> pa_3062, how big are the downloads?
18:53:32 <purple> whu uses that ms fw these days :) doesnt people know anything about ms products :)
18:53:40 <gluxon> The PortableApps.com Installer downloads the freeware app while your installing.
18:53:47 <pa_3062> Yeah I could turn it off, but there is a worm going around here so I wouldn't want to leave it off
18:53:58 <pa_3062> the download goes fine
18:54:03 <gluxon> ?
18:54:16 <pa_3062> It's the install that fails part of the way through
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18:55:30 <SteveLamerton> pa_3062, does it give you an error message?
18:55:31 <gluxon> What error do you receive?
18:56:17 <pa_3062> looking for it now
18:56:57 <pa_3062> It is after it has finished connecting and downloading and is installing. With skype it was an exe file I believe.
18:57:19 <pa_3062> I'm running chrome install right now and will paste error in
18:58:04 <pa_3062> ERROR: (chrome_installer.exe >chrome.7z)
19:00:13 <pa_3062> Does that make any sense? I'm trying it again with the firewall down.
19:00:55 <pa_3062> Same exact error with firewall down
19:02:10 <SteveLamerton> pa_3062, take a look at this: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-21_-_google_chrome_portable_3.0.195.27#comment-130656
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19:04:51 <Simeon> hi all
19:05:03 <sar3th> hi Simeon
19:05:17 <SteveLamerton> Hello Simeon
19:05:21 <Simeon> Lots of people here :)
19:05:24 <Simeon> hi steve
19:07:50 <Simeon> WOW John is here. Nice! :)
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19:10:31 <SteveLamerton> Simeon, crazy isn't it ;)
19:13:13 <pa_3062> Hi again. thanks for the link to the error about chrome - but I have space on my disk so that is not the solution. Any other ideas?
19:15:29 <SteveLamerton> pa_3062, do you have permission to write to the disk?
19:17:56 <pa_3062> Yes I write to disk all the time. I'm on my work computer, but it is one for me and I am the admin.
19:18:45 <SteveLamerton> pa_3062, ok, I guess you have tried redownloading the installer?
19:18:58 <pa_3062> Yes, twice.
19:19:32 <SteveLamerton> Hmmm, I am all out of ideas, you about JohnTHaller
19:19:37 <SteveLamerton> ?
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19:20:05 <pa_3062> I've installed just about every other one of the pa apps on my stick.
19:20:36 * ningen i need help, I installed the portable apps but its not working
19:20:40 <pa_3062> The difference is that these two (skype and chrome) both do a download while installing.
19:21:18 <pa_3062> ningen What exactly did you install and what do you mean by it's not working?
19:21:22 <gluxon> ningen: How is it not working?
19:21:38 <gluxon> What happens?
19:21:59 * ningen at 1st I installed the platform but when I tried to install it in the USB flash drive
19:22:27 <pa_3062> Did you install the whole suite?
19:22:44 <gluxon> What package?
19:23:01 <gluxon> Just the menu, lite, or full?
19:23:12 <pa_3062> You can do that directly to your USB drive
19:23:23 <Simeon> Let one person coordinite the help! Its better than everyone asking questions...
19:23:32 * ningen 1st the Platform Only then when it didn't work I tried the Suite Standard
19:23:51 <Simeon> Where did you download it to?
19:24:02 * ningen I directly istalled it in the USB drive
19:24:11 <gluxon> No, where did you download it to?
19:24:17 <Simeon> installed isnt downloaded.
19:24:20 <gluxon> As in where did you put the installer.
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19:24:38 <gluxon> Desktop?
19:24:44 * ningen in the Dowload folder in My Documents
19:24:56 <Simeon> Its best to download the installer to your desktop (=hard dirve)and thenh install it to your USB drive.
19:25:23 <gluxon> Okay, that doesn't matter.
19:25:44 <gluxon> Download folder is fine, Vista/7 urges you to do that.
19:25:48 <Simeon> ah
19:25:56 <gluxon> (Default Path).
19:26:05 * ningen yes that's my default path
19:26:08 <Simeon> did you get an error message?
19:26:34 * ningen I got a pop up window, the don't send
19:27:24 * ningen just to clarify, is it right when I run the installer then directly installed it in my USB drive?
19:27:28 <gluxon> Yes.
19:27:33 <gluxon> That's what you're suppose to do.
19:27:39 <gluxon> Or what's recommended.
19:27:41 * ningen so what happened
19:27:53 * ningen that's exactly what I did
19:28:07 <gluxon> Okay, so could you paste us the pop-up message?
19:28:45 * ningen ok wait a sec
19:28:58 <gluxon> :)
19:32:20 <gluxon> Just curious, what's up with the /me thing?
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19:33:57 <ningen> sorry, the last time I used IRC is when I was in High School
19:34:18 <ningen> I tought you still have to put that up :)
19:35:03 <gluxon> ...
19:35:10 <gluxon> Well, okay then :P
19:35:30 <ningen> Do I have to clear all my files in my USB drive before installing the PortableApps?
19:35:35 <gluxon> No.
19:36:00 <ningen> this is what happened
19:36:42 <ningen> I DL the platform only at 1st then I can't acces it then I deleted
19:37:31 <ningen> then I copied all my files in my PC folder then format my USB drive
19:37:54 <ningen> just now, I installed it again just what I did earlier
19:37:59 <Simeon> ok
19:38:07 <ningen> and I can access it already
19:38:20 <ningen> weird
19:38:40 <gluxon> Okay, what brand is it?
19:39:21 <ningen> http://portableapps.com/download <--- here's the site where I download it
19:39:45 <ningen> PotableApps.com
19:39:53 <gluxon> No, Flash Drive brand. Such as SanDisk, Kingston, etc.
19:40:17 <gluxon> And the name "SanDisk Cruzer Micro, Kingston Traveler" something like that would help.
19:40:29 <ningen> sorry, transcend
19:40:34 <gluxon> :)
19:41:07 <gluxon> Okay, try reformating the whole drive to FAT32. (Preserve Precious stuff of course :P)
19:41:31 <ningen> ok, I'll do that
19:42:06 <gluxon> :)
19:42:08 <ningen> done
19:42:14 <gluxon> Already? :P
19:42:36 <ningen> yup. I already transferred my files earlier at my PC
19:43:05 <ningen> I'll install the platform again
19:43:19 <gluxon> Try only the platform this time :)
19:43:45 <gluxon> It'll be faster for solving the problem :)
19:43:52 <ningen> it opened!
19:45:16 <ningen> I'll just copy paste my files to the documents folder of the platform or I should open the platform and then click explore to transfer my files?
19:45:26 <gluxon> Yep.
19:45:31 <Simeon> doesnt matter
19:45:38 <ningen> ahh ok
19:45:50 <ningen> thank you so much
19:45:52 <gluxon> You can have any files on it as long as you don't alter any PortableApps.com file :)
19:45:54 <Simeon> either way you'll open an explortr window with the Documents folder
19:46:03 <Simeon> folder.
19:46:20 <gluxon> So the problem was probably a corrupt file system.
19:46:28 <gluxon> FAT32 rocks :P
19:46:35 <ningen> in my USB drive
19:47:12 <ningen> I'll try this out first
19:49:22 <ningen> n
19:55:40 <ningen> thank you so much for the help...
19:55:48 <ningen> GOD bless...
19:56:09 <Simeon> have fun with it :)
19:56:53 <ningen> I'll definitely will! nice apps!
19:57:14 <Simeon> I know :)
19:57:31 <Simeon> I have been useing them for over 2 years now.
19:57:41 <Chazz> :o
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19:58:41 <rcmaehl> You guys have this text on oyur home page: http://portableapps.com/node/3041
19:58:55 <ningen> actually I will also refer this apps to my family and friends
19:59:22 <Simeon> I hope you will :)
19:59:47 <Simeon> @rcmaehl: I get to the normal main page. What text do you mean?
20:00:12 <MaienM> Simeon: he means that text (the link) is on the homepage
20:00:21 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, it's not actually going to a node
20:00:23 <rcmaehl> http://portableapps.com/node/3041/edit <- exactly what it says
20:00:29 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: http://portableapps.com/node/3041 is not working.
20:00:35 <Simeon> AH I se
20:04:21 <Bensawsome> hmmm
20:04:30 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 maybe the home page is asctually a node but...
20:04:33 <Bensawsome> i dunno thats wierd
20:04:37 * Bensawsome will bbiab
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20:07:13 <MaienM> Bensawsome: no that makes sense from a drupal perspective, all pages are nodes so that could very well be possible
20:07:24 <MaienM> however the fact that it displays the link is weird
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20:09:15 <JohnTHaller> Fixed the odd test on the homepage
20:09:17 <JohnTHaller> And I'm back
20:10:14 <gluxon> Hey, when did PortableApps.com go on FB + Twitter?
20:10:23 <gluxon> And how did Ben get on top of the fan list!
20:10:35 <MaienM> its been on twitter for ages, dunno about fb
20:10:41 <Simeon> just since a couple minutes i guess
20:10:45 <gluxon> oh.
20:10:52 <Simeon> but we havent always advertised it on our page
20:10:53 <gluxon> Cause the link on the forum appeared just now.
20:11:00 <JohnTHaller> I just added those links :-)
20:12:15 <ningen> I just found PortableApps in FB
20:13:01 <Simeon> Congrats on all the new releases John! Should I update the german pages or are we close enough to a redo of the translation so Its not worth the effort?
20:13:47 <gluxon> .. It's been up for almost a year.
20:13:53 <gluxon> Why add the block now? :P
20:14:24 <rcmaehl> :O
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20:18:25 <gluxon> Hello pa_4294: Need help?
20:18:38 <JohnTHaller> Simeon: we're close. I should be able to launch it around the 2.0 release.
20:19:05 <Simeon> ok so ill wait - dont have much time atm anyway
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20:20:13 <JohnTHaller> You can start working on anything you want locally and keep it as text files for now if you want. And you can do the homepage, since that'll be preserved.
20:21:30 <Simeon> ok. but I think I wait - Semester started this week...
20:23:49 <Simeon> Gotta go - see yall guys
20:25:29 <SteveLamerton> Bye Simeon
20:26:24 <Simeon> bye steve
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20:30:42 <gluxon> Wow.. I freed up 300 MB by removing part of MinGW Portable :P
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20:33:34 <rcmaehl> ?
20:33:41 <rcmaehl> Linky to app
20:34:36 <gluxon> .. your not a developer, why would you want it?
20:34:57 <rcmaehl> WOW! 8 triple 7s in a row
20:35:21 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/node/18601
20:35:22 <rcmaehl> on my pokemon slots
20:35:39 <rcmaehl> gluxon: allyweek.com
20:36:40 <rcmaehl> I just reallized this isn't my chan
20:36:58 <gluxon> lol :P
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20:38:55 <gluxon> He didn't have to leave :P
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21:19:01 <gluxon> ptmb!
21:19:11 <ptmb> Hi gluxon
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21:29:14 <JohnTHaller> IcoFX Portable released: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-22_-_icofx_portable_1.6.4
21:30:10 <SteveLamerton> Nice one John :)
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21:34:37 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller, you have a bit from blender in the IcoFX page
21:43:02 <JohnTHaller> fixed thanks
21:43:05 <JohnTHaller> errant ctrl-v
21:43:15 <SteveLamerton> :)
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22:04:39 <fcf_user9> You guys need to make it so your site looks bigger for ubuntu users
22:05:15 <JohnTHaller> define bigger. last I checked on Ubuntu it looks just fine in Firefox.
22:05:43 <MaienM> it does for me
22:05:57 <fcf_user9> Increase text size by about 2 text sizes
22:06:03 <fcf_user9> 1 or 2
22:06:33 <ZachThibeau> looks fine for me when I'm on ubuntu
22:06:46 <fcf_user9> hmmm
22:07:18 <MaienM> are you sure the problem isn't on your end fcf_user9? maybe you have set the default font/font size lower then normal
22:07:43 <fcf_user9> Hold on
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22:08:47 <fcf_user9> There we go serif size 18
22:09:57 <ZachThibeau> excellent
22:10:15 <fcf_user9> Also, is there any known problems with Portableapps on ubuntu
22:10:19 <fcf_user9> ?
22:10:36 <JohnTHaller> Nope. The platform and most apps should work fine with Wine installed.
22:10:44 <MaienM> well the apps obviously aren't officially supported, so you'll need to use wine
22:10:53 <MaienM> I haven't had any problems doing so though
22:11:19 <fcf_user9> K
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22:16:39 <belghet> Is google chrome portable a nsis launcher?
22:17:10 <JohnTHaller> yes, why
22:17:28 <belghet> I was wondering if the portableapps compressor would work.
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22:19:53 <JohnTHaller> nope. all our launchers are NSIS-based. But that's not why they won't compress. They won't compress because we have them check themselves for modification (usually indicative of a virus) before running.
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22:21:44 <belghet> Ok, thanks. Also, how often do you update your support page? It seems to be missing a lot of programs added recently.
22:26:10 <JohnTHaller> Most new apps aren't getting their own support pages. And we'll be retiring several of the old ones.
22:26:50 <belghet> So will there be a single, general support page then?
22:27:21 <ZachThibeau> there is a forum called Other Apps Support that people can use
22:30:09 <belghet> And that forum should have specific support for the other apps?
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22:31:04 <Gizmokid2005> belghet: yes.
22:32:06 <belghet> Ok, thank you all very much.
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22:34:05 <JohnTHaller> You guys like the new Follow & Connect With Us block on the site?
22:34:44 <Gizmokid2005> the one at the bottom JohnTHaller?
22:35:18 <JohnTHaller> it's just below the applications list on the left on every page (except front, recent posts, etc)
22:35:56 <Gizmokid2005> Oh, well I'd missed it, i usually only pay close attention to the tracker and front page lol
22:35:59 <Gizmokid2005> but I do like it actually :)
22:36:09 <Gizmokid2005> now if we can start cranking out newsletters ;)
22:36:29 <JohnTHaller> yeah. still need to come up with a better way to handle the thousands of bounces you get with an 80k subscriber pool.
22:36:52 <Gizmokid2005> hmmm, what mailing software do you use JohnTHaller?
22:38:01 <JohnTHaller> drupal's simplenews mailer. it doesn't have auto-bounce processing. granted, I don't know of any open source ones that do.
22:38:10 <JohnTHaller> I built one with it for a client a while ago and still own the code, but it's ASP.
22:38:22 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm
22:38:47 <Gizmokid2005> maybe look into changing the mailer? or, change the address that it comes from, just route it to a donotreply address of some sort - /dev/null it.
22:39:10 <Gizmokid2005> is there really a reason that you need to get returned mail from the list? Other than to clean it out, which is a huge task sometimes
23:05:59 <JohnTHaller> No, you HAVE to get the bounces. Places like AOL when an address goes bad, if you keep sending to it, they'll block you entirely. You always have to handle the bounces.
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23:06:27 <JohnTHaller> And a bounce rate of around 10% is normal for any list. Things like mailboxes getting full. Or accounts temporarily suspended. Or an accidental spam block.
23:12:02 <Gizmokid2005> True...so maybe have a team of users help? You can probably use some scripting to find the exact error codes you are being returned and filter based on that.
23:13:31 <JohnTHaller> alright, I must be off to dinner. I should pop in for a bit later on.
23:14:00 <ZachThibeau> brb rebooting to windows 7
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