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00:06:47 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
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04:22:12 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 and GEdit Portable! (And Gnumeric Portable) :D
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06:19:09 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Here's a great tool to help you upload your portable applications that you create with the minimum of fuss: DropUpLoad Portable 1.87 Development Test 1, http://portableapps.com/node/21191
06:19:24 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Much simpler than using FileZilla to upload 'em :-)
06:19:33 <ChrisMorgan|Away> I'm already a convert within an hour :-)
06:23:22 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan|Away, arn't you away? :P
06:23:34 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Waaallll...
06:23:55 <ChrisMorgan|Away> I'm using my laptop so I don't have to print a Specialist Mathematics exam.
06:24:17 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Just got sidetracked for three quarters of an hour or so, that was all that was necessary :-)
06:24:36 <Chazz> ah
06:25:04 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Creating locked thingies doesn't work, it just copies itself to the new location; probably a side-effect of UPX, but no real loss... :P
06:25:19 <Chazz> heh, nice
06:26:48 <ChrisMorgan|Away> yup, side-effect.
06:26:55 <ChrisMorgan|Away> I wonder... should I then scrap UPX?
06:27:19 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Shrinks it to under half the size...
06:27:45 <ChrisMorgan|Away> That's 155KB it saves...
06:27:53 <ChrisMorgan|Away> :P
06:28:39 <ChrisMorgan|Away> What we need is a way to disable that feature... or better still recompile it forcing data into Data\settings (the launcher sets the working directory to Data\settings and that catches the settings file)
06:29:24 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Anyway, enjoy it :-)
06:29:45 <ChrisMorgan|Away> I used it to upload itself, speed was what I'd expect, it all worked fine :-)
06:37:02 <ChrisMorgan|Away> If only all applications could be shoved into the PortableApps.com Format that quickly... :-)
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08:14:15 <pa_1871> Hello. Which technique does PortableApps use to make apps portable? Does the launcher deploys and then cleans up files to the system, or does it intercept system calls by application? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_apps#Portable_Windows_applications)
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09:13:10 <MiffleZwip> is ther a version that supports windows 7 yet seems that the autorun feature wont work in windows 7 not even with the betqa version 2.0
09:14:27 <MiffleZwip> ?
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09:20:49 <MiffleZwip> well?
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18:06:19 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
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18:07:38 <TimClark> hello SteveLamerton
18:07:48 <SteveLamerton> Hello TimClark
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18:10:02 <sar3th> hello TimClark and SteveLamerton
18:10:08 <SteveLamerton> Hello sar3th
18:10:13 <ZachThibeau> howdy TimClark and SteveLamerton
18:10:21 <SteveLamerton> Heya ZachThibeau
18:12:29 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: you seen WxConnect yet?\
18:12:48 <SteveLamerton> ?
18:13:04 <ZachThibeau> http://www.kirix.com/labs/wxwebconnect.html
18:13:17 <ZachThibeau> it's a new component you can use with wxwidgets and it uses xulrunner :)
18:13:43 <ZachThibeau> it's from the same guys that made wxaui
18:13:44 <SteveLamerton> Oh yes, I knew about that, very neat isn't it :)
18:13:49 <ZachThibeau> yes :)
18:14:02 <TimClark> and hello to you ZachThibeau
18:14:22 <ZachThibeau> I think a PortableApps.com Specific Browser would be cool :P
18:15:00 <SteveLamerton> Get to it then ;)
18:15:46 <ZachThibeau> not until I find a new media core I can use for mp3k :P
18:15:46 <ZachThibeau> right now thats my top priority
18:15:48 <sar3th> just use QWebkit instead
18:16:02 <SteveLamerton> or wxWebkit ;)
18:16:16 <ZachThibeau> sar3th: Steve and I are WxWidgets fans :P
18:16:51 <ZachThibeau> not this qt stuff :P
18:16:57 <sar3th> i know
18:17:03 <sar3th> btw ZachThibeau, i started java development
18:17:10 <ZachThibeau> yes I know :P
18:17:16 <ZachThibeau> you said in #gizmokid2005
18:17:25 <ZachThibeau> logs FTW
18:17:26 <sar3th> even though i don't want to, i really have to admit, i kinda like it :O
18:17:51 <ZachThibeau> try wxwidgets :P you may like it too :P
18:18:49 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: I'm just reading wxconnect's documentation and there is a way to add firefox plugins to it too
18:19:05 <ZachThibeau> however it won't use addons
18:19:10 <ZachThibeau> but either way it's cool :)
18:19:15 <SteveLamerton> Wow, neat, I didn't know it could do that, I guess it makes sense though as it is all xul
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18:24:39 <Happehwalrus> I have Pidgin Portable, and accidentally moved all of my dlls to the plugins folder. Which dlls do I need to move to PidginPortable\PidginPortable\App\Pidgin?
18:25:01 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: your best bet is to just install again
18:25:15 <Gizmokid2005> it won't kill any of your data
18:25:33 <Gizmokid2005> and it'll fix any files that may be missing :)
18:25:51 <Happehwalrus> ^ I can't re-install it, I have 2kbps right now.
18:25:54 <xangua> now that you are talking of pidgin i have one question
18:26:06 <Gizmokid2005> moment Happehwalrus, I'll get you a screenshot then
18:26:17 <sar3th> ask away xangua
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18:26:22 <xangua> pidgin *
18:26:28 <Gizmokid2005> xangua: moment, I'll get you the link for that
18:27:31 <Gizmokid2005> xangua: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#HowdoesPidginforWindowsdeterminewhichlanguagetouse
18:28:15 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: you are talking about the PidginPortable\App\Pidgin\ folder correct?
18:28:38 <Happehwalrus> Yes.
18:28:41 <Gizmokid2005> Ok
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18:30:15 <Gizmokid2005> xangua: I don't believe so, but hold on, lemme double-check
18:31:06 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: http://gizmokid2005.com/images/pidgin_dlls.png <-- that should be all of them, plus one or two, for instance - libjson-glib-1.0.dll is only required if you have the facebook plugin installed.
18:31:30 <Gizmokid2005> xangua: here you are: http://portableapps.com/support/pidgin_portable#language
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18:31:55 <xangua> ooh thanks !!!!
18:32:15 <xangua> i will try it the next time i need to go to windows
18:32:20 <Gizmokid2005> yw xangua, chances are if it has to do with the app and we have a special way to do it, check the support page :)
18:34:20 <Happehwalrus> Gizmokid, are you using windows?
18:34:28 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: yep.
18:36:47 <Happehwalrus> Gizmokid: You also have your folder sorted by name?
18:36:58 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: always
18:37:07 <Happehwalrus> Good.
18:37:16 <Gizmokid2005> that was a list of all the FILES in the Pidgin\ directory
18:37:19 <Gizmokid2005> not the folders, but just the files.
18:37:35 <Gizmokid2005> typically I see no reason to sort a folder any other way :)
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18:43:44 <Happehwalrus> Gizmo, did you just download it
18:43:46 <Happehwalrus> ?
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18:44:04 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: no, I use Pidgin all the time
18:44:12 <Happehwalrus> Okay.
18:44:34 <Gizmokid2005> PidginPortable to be specific.
18:44:41 <Happehwalrus> Also, how do I set Pidgin to automatically identify me?
18:44:48 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: in, IRC?
18:44:56 <Happehwalrus> Yes.
18:45:20 <Gizmokid2005> I don't remember exactly if you have to set the password in your account settings, or use one of the IRC plugins.
18:46:29 <Gizmokid2005> I must run now, I'll be back in a bit.
18:47:56 <Happehwalrus> Is there anyone else with Pidgin here?
18:48:03 <xangua> me
18:48:11 <xangua> whatś the buzz¿
18:48:20 <Happehwalrus> How do you set it to spell-check?
18:48:57
18:49:03 <Happehwalrus> Yes.
18:49:09 <xangua> no idea, in linux it work out of the box
18:49:26 <Happehwalrus> I have spellchk.dll, do I just move it into PidginPortable\PidginPortable\App\Pidgin?
18:50:20 <xangua> i don't think that will be enouhg
19:25:01 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: just follow the instructions
19:26:57 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: i can't find them at the moment, but iirc, what you have to do is install aspell locally, then copy the aspell folder to PidginPortable' App\ folder
19:28:59 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: here it is: http://portableapps.com/node/9151#comment-49298
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20:00:06 <andreasma> hi
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20:09:44 <GizmoBot> OliverK will get to this later
20:15:22 <Happehwalrus> Just downloaded Aspell, copied to the Aspell Pidgin Portable folder, now what?
20:17:09 <Gizmokid2005> You have to restart pidgin and enable spell-checking in pidgin's prefs.
20:19:10 <Happehwalrus> I restarted Pidgin.
20:19:23 <Happehwalrus> What "prefs"?
20:19:39 <Happehwalrus> Nevermind.
20:20:41 <Happehwalrus> Uhhh, where in Preferences?
20:21:03 <Gizmokid2005> Conversations Tab
20:21:10 <Gizmokid2005> "Highlight misspelled words"
20:21:34 <Happehwalrus> Press Close.
20:21:40 <Gizmokid2005> yes
20:21:40 <Happehwalrus> Now restart again?
20:22:08 <Gizmokid2005> shouldn't have to
20:22:11 <Gizmokid2005> it should just be working
20:22:33 <Happehwalrus> It's not...
20:22:53 <Gizmokid2005> try restarting then.
20:23:10 <Happehwalrus> Oh, I need to copy the contents of the Aspell folder into Pidgin's.
20:23:21 <Happehwalrus> Not the folder itself, amirite?
20:23:29 <Gizmokid2005> no
20:23:35 <Gizmokid2005> you need to copy just like that post said
20:23:47 <Gizmokid2005> copy the WHOLE Aspell folder to PidginPortable\App\
20:24:04 <Happehwalrus> The contents of it?
20:24:26 <Happehwalrus> Because an aspell folder inside of an aspell folder seems silly.
20:24:39 <Gizmokid2005> No, you need to copy the ENTIRE Aspell folder to PidginPortable\App\
20:24:51 <Happehwalrus> Okay.
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20:26:15 <Happehwalrus> Gizmo, can I DCC you a picture of how it looks?
20:26:28 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: just upload to tinypic or something
20:26:33 <Happehwalrus> kk
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20:30:44 <Happehwalrus> http://i35.tinypic.com/ap925t.jpg
20:31:35 <Gizmokid2005> Happehwalrus: nope, inside the PidginPortable\App\Aspell\ folder should be bin, data, dict, doc, etc.
20:33:21 <Happehwalrus> I only have data and dict.
20:33:45 <Gizmokid2005> same rule applies though
20:33:52 <Gizmokid2005> there should only be one Aspell folder
20:36:46 <Happehwalrus> Do you have to download dictionary's for Aspell?
20:37:26 <Gizmokid2005> when you install Aspell it should install the dictionaries as well
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21:01:46 <pa_5699> hi
21:02:03 <pa_5699> anyone - chrome portable works ok?
21:02:08 <pa_5699> here no:(
21:02:18 <pa_5699> it wont even start
21:04:24 <OliverK|School> home computer or office?
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21:05:26 <pa_5699> home
21:05:50 <OliverK|School> splash screen show?
21:05:53 <pa_5699> all other portable progs ok
21:05:58 <pa_5699> no,nothing
21:06:23 <pa_5699> installed ok, nothing happened when try to start it
21:06:27 <OliverK|School> started directly by double clicking chrome portable.exe or via the menu
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21:06:40 <pa_5699> directly
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21:10:55 <OliverK|School> i don't now
21:11:03 <OliverK|School> if anything was wrong, you'd get some sort of a message
21:11:42 <pa_5699> guess so
21:11:52 <pa_5699> will dl again, and try once more
21:12:56 <pa_5699> nothing :(
21:13:06 <pa_5699> even nothing in Win task manager
21:13:10 <Bensawsome> pa_5699 i think there is a problem with it...
21:13:11 <pa_5699> strange
21:13:15 <Bensawsome> lemme look on the site for a sec
21:13:47 <Bensawsome> agh i hate my college's internet -_-
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21:14:44 <pa_5699> btw, error on chrome page here:
21:14:45 <Happehwalrus> ^ Try HughesNet.
21:14:45 <pa_5699> Date updated: 2009-11-21
21:14:48 <pa_5699> :)
21:14:56 <Bensawsome> lol nice
21:15:49 <Bensawsome> hmmm
21:16:01 <Bensawsome> i dunno i cant find it anymore -_-
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23:43:36 <gluxon> Bensawsome's rarely not in the room, a.k.a rarely leaves :P
23:43:58 <gluxon> StatBot: help
23:44:12 <gluxon> StatBot
23:44:12 <JacobMastel> I see the forums have gone crazy over google wave...
23:44:12 <JacobMastel> :P
23:44:17 <gluxon> :P
23:44:27 <gluxon> What is google wave anyway? Some website thing?
23:44:31 * JacobMastel wishes he had an invite
23:44:39 <JacobMastel> It's a multi person collaberation idea
23:45:23 <JacobMastel> Basically image a document that people can edit, wave stores the changes so when you log on you can see EXACTLY what they did and when. You can also go back and see changes being made in real time if you're both logged in.
23:45:33 <JacobMastel> Among millions of other cool uses..
23:47:11 <gluxon> Ah...
23:47:39 <gluxon> When does it come out of beta? Or have google even set a release date?
23:47:58 <JacobMastel> I don't think they have a date.
23:48:13 <JacobMastel> The other cool thing they have going on is Voice.
23:48:19 <JacobMastel> That is one that I'm testing :D
23:50:22 <gluxon> :)
23:51:05 <gluxon> O.M.G!!! I just logged into gmail... and here's what I found... "Spam (251)" :P
23:51:17 <JacobMastel> .....
23:52:35 <JacobMastel> Have you heard of Mozilla Raindrop?
23:52:42 <gluxon> nope.
23:53:17 <JacobMastel> Looks like that's waht's gonna replace Thunderbird
23:53:34 <JacobMastel> Which is probably the reason that the updates for ThunderBird have just been so pathetic
23:56:37 <gluxon> well, I don't see why they don't just continue working on Thunderbird... O_O
23:57:19 <JacobMastel> Because the new app isn't really an email client like the world knows it. It's supposed to be far different in far as including social networking sites and such.
23:57:48 <JacobMastel> But even the TB 3 betas haven't been very promising the way of advancements.
23:58:08 <gluxon> I can't find the dl's :(
23:58:10 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: especially with including a calendar
23:58:16 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: for what?
23:58:28 <gluxon> Raindrop.
23:58:28 <JacobMastel> Gizmokid2005: heh?
23:58:33 <JacobMastel> It doesn't have one yet
23:58:36 <gluxon> Well, only the source..
23:58:39 <gluxon> aww...
23:58:46 <gluxon> I have to compile just to use it? :(
23:58:46 <JacobMastel> That's what I thought
23:58:50 <JacobMastel> Yup
23:58:51 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: no
23:59:10 <Gizmokid2005> right JacobMastel, it was SUPPOSED to include a calendar, that was supposed to be the major new feature
23:59:29 <gluxon> Um... take it from Sunbird? how easy is that.
23:59:44 <JacobMastel> gluxon: agreed but for some reason they just didn't.....
23:59:58 <gluxon> wow...