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00:42:41 <JohnTHaller> And AbiWord Portable 2.8.1 is now up: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-10-29_-_abiword_portable_2.8.1
00:42:56 <OliverK> howdy JohnTHaller!
00:43:11 <OliverK> real quick: how about a firefox portableapps.com persona?
00:43:24 <Chazz> Do it!
00:43:29 <OliverK> or perhaps a better question, what constitues far use of the icon
00:43:36 <OliverK> Chazz: gotta be able to prove I can use it
00:43:44 <Chazz> oh, good point
00:44:05 <Chazz> OliverK, just gonna do a persona if you can, or gonna do a whole theme?
00:44:14 <OliverK> uh, persona for now
00:44:18 <OliverK> its almost done
00:44:19 <JohnTHaller> give it a shot with a persona. that's gonna be the theming method of choice with 3.6
00:44:25 <OliverK> cool
00:44:27 <OliverK> thanks
00:45:03 <OliverK> should I just a forum post on it first?
00:45:11 <OliverK> get a little community input?
00:46:30 <JohnTHaller> yeah
00:46:40 <JohnTHaller> and with that, I'm off, possibly for the night. need to unplug for a while.
00:46:47 <OliverK> alright
00:46:49 <OliverK> thanks
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00:46:55 <OliverK> :D
00:47:05 * OliverK wonders where the menu is . . . . :(
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01:03:32 <pa_3102> I have a quick installation question
01:03:56 <pa_3102> Destination folder should be the USB device, correct?
01:04:15 <dbdii407> On the installers, Yes.
01:04:24 <pa_3102> Cool. Thanks!
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02:13:18 <GizmoBot> Whibo sets mode +thanks to Chazz
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02:26:58 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
02:27:24 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, :D
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02:27:43 <Chazz> lol
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03:31:00 <ChrisMorgan> Well, I'm about to head off to Specialist Mathematics Written Examination 1
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03:35:58 <Chazz> Bye ChrisMorgan :)
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04:06:41 <pa_8741> Hello all, quick question, how would I manually uninstall a program?
04:07:33 <pa_8741> ?
04:08:18 <Chazz> Delete the drive\portableapps\appname folder
04:08:30 <pa_8741> oh, ok thanks
04:08:45 <pa_8741> oh, one other thing, where are the programs supposed to install to?
04:09:06 <pa_8741> which directory?
04:09:44 <Chazz> drive\portableapps\appname is where they're normally installed to
04:10:09 <pa_8741> oh, cause i got 2 apps installed there, but they dont show up on the menu thingy
04:14:20 <pa_8741> Last thing, besides ^, would portableapps work on school computers where its so limited that you can't even save on the desktop? Just wondering because I might need to use it, but it says that if you try running a game, your flashdrive might get deleted, so if the programs gets confused, its gonna be bad
04:14:49 <pa_8741> program*
04:15:46 <Chazz> PApps /should/ run, but not 100% sure if it would always work
04:17:02 <pa_8741> I already figured out the menu thingy, so thanks
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04:58:23 <GizmoBot> sar3th is developing LyXPortable together with OliverK
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05:00:10 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is currently working on a super cool media player called musicplay3000 aka mp3k
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05:44:12 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
05:44:35 <Chazz> wb ChrisMorgan
05:44:46 <ChrisMorgan> hulloooo
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10:20:40 <pa_6580> Hello there
10:21:03 <pa_6580> I have a quick question
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13:19:57 <pa_1558> I have sucessfully created a now account with no error messages, but my log-in and password are still not recognized
13:20:45 <pa_1558> Help!
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13:25:06 <GizmoBot> OliverK will get to this later
13:37:04 <pa_1558> Ah well if no one here cares, no reason why I should, either.
13:37:16 <OliverK> what you problem
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13:38:07 <pa_3683> I have set up a new account but my lofin infor isn't recognized.
13:38:15 <OliverK> for pa.com?
13:38:25 <pa_3683> Yes.
13:38:32 <OliverK> hmm . . .
13:38:37 <OliverK> i don't know
13:38:51 <OliverK> are you sure you've got everything right?
13:38:57 <pa_3683> Me, either LOL
13:39:07 <OliverK> the other thing is you could try re-registering
13:39:19 <pa_3683> I received no error message, so I assume it went OK.
13:39:20 <OliverK> at least that way you'll know if teh nick has been taken
13:39:39 <OliverK> then you could possibly try reseting the password (if teh site supports it)
13:39:44 <pa_3683> But I also didn't see anything about a confirmation email, but maybe there isn't supposed to be one?
13:39:58 <OliverK> don't remember honestly
13:40:10 <OliverK> i'd try reregistering it
13:40:25 <OliverK> if you still have a problem, you'll need to contact the site admin
13:41:43 <pa_3683> I did try re-registering and it said that ID was taken, so I'm assuming the first time worked.
13:41:47 <OliverK> opkay
13:41:49 <OliverK> okay*
13:42:15 <pa_3683> Well, not a biggy, I was just goig to suggest an app to list
13:42:17 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/user/password
13:42:21 <OliverK> here's what you need
13:42:30 <OliverK> what was the app you where going to suggest?
13:43:05 <pa_3683> Quicktime, but I just now got a confirmation email for the login, so I think everything is OK, just a bit slow today. :)
13:43:42 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/node/9868
13:43:46 <OliverK> can you use VLC?
13:44:11 <OliverK> quicktime isn't going to happen do to its closed source (i.e. heavily restricted) nature
13:44:24 <pa_3683> Yes, and I already have it. But the version here will not do .mov files
13:44:38 <OliverK> good point
13:44:42 <OliverK> what about mplayer?
13:45:49 <pa_3683> mplayer? You mean Windows Media player?
13:47:11 <OliverK> no, mplayer
13:47:13 <OliverK> hangon
13:47:23 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/mplayer_portable
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13:47:57 <pa_2184> hi any body?
13:48:06 <OliverK> yesh
13:48:46 <pa_2184> where can i find portable version of yahoo messenger that works perfectly?
13:48:49 <pa_3683> OK, thanks, I'll try that. As we say here, Tchau! :-)
13:49:03 <pa_2184> where can i find portable version of yahoo messenger that works perfectly?
13:49:05 <pa_2184> where can i find portable version of yahoo messenger that works perfectly?
13:49:09 <OliverK> pa_2184: you will never find a portabilzation of yahoo messenger
13:49:20 <pa_3683> Yahoo has a web-based version that works fine. I've used it many times
13:49:22 <OliverK> you do have the options of choosing pigin portable or miranda portable
13:49:29 <OliverK> yes, you could use that
13:49:44 <pa_3683> Bye again
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13:49:51 <OliverK> both are excellent clients
13:50:00 <pa_2184> i know but pidgin dose not suppoet cam
13:50:14 <OliverK> you're right, it doesn't
13:50:25 <OliverK> i don't believe pidgin supports it either
13:50:28 <OliverK> err
13:50:29 <OliverK> miranda
13:50:44 <pa_2184> i tried them, not work
13:51:24 <OliverK> you might try skype portable
13:51:35 <OliverK> but otherwise we don't have anything that willd o webcams
13:51:38 <OliverK> sorry
13:51:42 <OliverK> will do*
13:51:44 <pa_2184> i already find ymes portable that works but is not in english
13:51:49 <OliverK> sticky fingers
13:52:26 <pa_2184> can PortableApps.com make one?
13:52:53 <OliverK> i doubt it
13:53:12 <OliverK> most of us are happy with are happy with whats available not
13:53:20 <OliverK> you are likely finding an illegally repackaged version. This IRC room, does not, can not, and will no provide support for portable solutions not provided by us
13:54:13 <pa_2184> so please make a portable Ymes
13:54:23 <OliverK> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.softpedia.com%2Fget%2FInternet%2FChat%2FOther-Chat-Tools%2FWebCam-Video-Plugin-for-Miranda.shtml&ei=-u_qStOmH5CZlAe-3uD_BA&usg=AFQjCNGk7Edwf2b22OrWSTQbW3DwLTyzBQ
13:54:31 <OliverK> i don't know if that's any good though
13:54:56 <pa_2184> ill try that, thanks
13:55:51 <OliverK> http://addons.miranda-im.org/details.php?action=viewfile&id=2868
13:55:58 <OliverK> here's a link to one on the forums
13:56:07 <OliverK> note that both parties need to be using miranda and the plugin
13:56:28 <pa_2184> is there any plugins for pidgin?
13:56:40 <OliverK> i don't use pidgin
13:56:51 <OliverK> i think that there are, but i don't know for sure
13:57:11 <pa_2184> thanks anyway
13:57:49 <pa_2184> bye
13:57:53 <OliverK> adios
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15:33:04 <Tomodachi> hi.Ii've got a question. I just plugged in my usb stick with portable apps & got the folloing message: this "portable network graphics" image is not valid because it contains invalid pieces of data (crc error). Any idea what could be wrong? re-inserting doesn't help. Yesterday it didn't give me this message and all i did was make a backup using Toucan. Could my stick be broken? Thanks in...
15:33:06 <Tomodachi> ...advance for answering. bbl, need some food ; )
15:35:07 <Gizmokid2005> Tomodachi: it could be a corrupt part of your drive, but it sounds like the image is corrupted. What image/program gives this error?
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16:08:19 <Tomodachi> "portableapps.com platform" is what it says. It happens just after I click "what do you want windows to do" & I choose start portable apps with the program on the disk. Don't know if that's how it's said in an english version. I'm on a Dutch language system. Anyway, the usb disk indicator flashes like it's reading the disk & then the error appears. Portable does start though....
16:09:18 <Gizmokid2005> Ahh, just redownload the platform and install it
16:09:27 <Gizmokid2005> sounds like just a corrupt file, if you reinstall it should take care of it.
16:10:20 <Tomodachi> Can I just overwrite when installing or do i have to empty the disk & put all the apps back again?
16:10:31 <Gizmokid2005> just overwrite
16:10:32 <Gizmokid2005> :)
16:11:32 <Tomodachi> cool. Thanks for the help Gizmokid2005; very much appreciated ^^. PortbleApps rules! ; ). Anyway, thanks again, have a nice day...
16:11:39 <Gizmokid2005> no problem Tomodachi :) enjoy
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16:14:16 <Mir> hey Gizmokid2005
16:14:32 <Mir> Frys has a 1TB SATA HD on sale for 39.99
16:14:34 <Gizmokid2005> Hello Mir
16:14:35 <Mir> 8D
16:14:38 <Gizmokid2005> NICE
16:14:44 <Gizmokid2005> too bad I don't have a Fry's around here
16:18:57 <OliverK> :O
16:19:55 <OliverK> linky?
16:19:58 <OliverK> add . . .
16:20:04 <OliverK> anything :D
16:21:19 * OliverK doesn't know if he likes the drop shadows . . .
16:21:20 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: is it an in-store only deal?
16:21:38 <Mir> yes i think
16:21:53 <Gizmokid2005> What brand?
16:21:55 <Mir> and so cali only
16:21:58 <Mir> doesnt say
16:21:59 <OliverK> crap
16:22:03 <Gizmokid2005> :( figures
16:22:08 <OliverK> oh well
16:22:08 <Gizmokid2005> that's one heck of a deal too
16:22:11 <Gizmokid2005> and I need another drive.
16:22:19 <Mir> only " MAJOR NAME BRAND "
16:22:20 <OliverK> my server can't handle sata
16:22:22 <OliverK> yet
16:22:24 <Gizmokid2005> I need to get another 1TB drive and put them in a dual-drive enclosure with RAID
16:22:24 <OliverK> muahahaha
16:22:31 <OliverK> nice
16:22:31 <Mir> heh
16:22:42 <Mir> they sell SATA PCI cards for like 24$
16:22:49 * Mir knows :3
16:22:56 <Gizmokid2005> Well, my 1TB ext drive is getting quite a bit full atm...
16:23:04 <Gizmokid2005> so I need to setup raid with another 1TB drive so I can backup everything I need.
16:23:12 <Gizmokid2005> next check might even warrant such an expenditure.
16:23:25 <Gizmokid2005> with over 20 hours of OT and over 100 hours total for 2 weeks :)
16:23:30 <Gizmokid2005> anywho, that's -ot
16:23:37 <Gizmokid2005> back in a bit
16:27:21 * OliverK feels like being an op today
16:30:08 <Mir> :)
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19:06:32 <bleak> hi...any predicton on the release date of the PAP 2.0 final?
19:08:08 <Gizmokid2005> bleak: nope
19:08:14 <Gizmokid2005> it'll be out when it's out.
19:08:21 <Gizmokid2005> John hasn't said anything further about it.
19:09:05 <bleak> ok thanks
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19:20:39 <andreasma> hi
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19:35:57 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton didn't see you come in :P
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19:36:23 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: Hardly my fault ;)
19:36:38 <ZachThibeau> tis my fault for not being around my pc :P
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21:29:47 <Gewitterstern> Does anyone know of the portable apps suite works under Windows 2000?
21:32:50 <SteveLamerton> Gewitterstern: Should work just fine
21:33:00 <Gewitterstern> Thanks.
21:33:37 <SteveLamerton> Supported platforms are at the bottom of this page: http://portableapps.com/suite and 2000 is listed :)
21:37:41 <Gewitterstern> Thanks. I was just wondering because it says that a min 256 MB Ram is needed
21:38:03 <Gewitterstern> My old computer has only 128 MB RAM
21:39:29 <NiveusLuna> Firefox won't, firefox 3.5 needs xp or higher
21:39:39 <NiveusLuna> seamonkey should work fine, though
21:39:49 <Gewitterstern> Yes, I like seamonkey
21:39:53 <Gewitterstern> No Problem
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21:47:52 <Simeon> hi Q all
21:48:22 <Ben|Adium> why hello thar
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22:26:06 <Simeon> If a program checks APPDATA inside the registry to find out the path to store something there is nothing we can do about it can we?
22:28:25 <Gizmokid2005> Simeon: about it actually making the check? No. But we can take care of whatever it stores there
22:29:12 <Simeon> yes. by the usual copy/paste the folder. I wanted to get around that - but I seem to can not cause flightgears wizard uses the registry :(
22:29:35 <Ben|Adium> darn registry =_=
22:29:46 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah, we can't prevent it, though we could reroute it if it was using an environmetn variable instead.
22:31:45 <Simeon> but it doesnt! It uses the registry :(
22:32:14 <Simeon> At least I know now that it does work that way because of the friendly folks in the flightgear channel
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22:43:21 <gluxon> Ben|Adium, You're Bensawsome right?
22:43:26 <Ben|Adium> yep :P
22:43:34 <Ben|Adium> i can't connect to my bnc from here ¬_¬
22:43:41 <Ben|Adium> atleast not yet
22:43:42 <gluxon> oh.
22:44:04 <gluxon> Adium sucks by the way :P
22:44:07 <Ben|Adium> lol
22:44:12 <Ben|Adium> 1. no it dont you do
22:44:18 <Ben|Adium> and 2. you suck :P
22:44:23 <Ben|Adium> lolololol
22:44:31 <Ben|Adium> yes i know i said the same thing twice :P
22:44:37 <gluxon> :)
22:44:43 <gluxon> SERGENTSILER!
22:44:48 <gluxon> DROP AND GIVE ME 50!
22:44:50 <SergentSiler> no
22:44:54 <Ben|Adium> one
22:44:56 <Ben|Adium> no
22:45:02 <Ben|Adium> and 2 this isn
22:45:11 <Ben|Adium> t #portableapps-ot
22:45:14 <Ben|Adium> lol
22:45:41 <gluxon> SergentSiler: Robert and I are wondering why in the world we're banned from #SilerSpot :P
22:45:52 <SergentSiler> robert?
22:45:58 <Chazz> SergentSiler, rcmaehl
22:45:59 <Ben|Adium> gluxon: again… -OT
22:46:05 <SergentSiler> oh ya -ot
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22:54:46 <Simeon> bye guys - see ya!
22:54:52 <Chazz> Bye Simeon :)
22:55:18 <Simeon> another day passed without a new toy :( :)
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22:56:33 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
22:56:43 <gluxon> Hey ChirsMorgan! :)
22:56:44 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, howdy :)
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22:57:10 <Simeon> hi Chris!
22:57:35 <ChrisMorgan> hey guys (Simeon, Chazz and even gluxon who can't spell my name ;-) )
22:57:51 <Chazz> lol
22:58:07 <gluxon> What? :P
22:58:10 <Simeon> Chris: Do you remember trying to help me with flightgear recently?
22:58:12 <gluxon> I spelled it just fine!
22:58:26 <gluxon> (10:56:43 PM) gluxon: Hey ChirsMorgan! :)
22:58:26 <ChrisMorgan> Simeon: dimensia. Remind me ;-)
22:58:26 <Chazz> ChirsMorgan!=<ChrisMorgan>
22:58:47 <gluxon> what?
22:58:56 <gluxon> who's name is Chirs?
22:59:00 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: chIRsmorgan?
22:59:11 <Simeon> I tried redirecting APPDATA but I found out (with the help of some extremely helpful people on their irc channel) that it takes the info from the registry :(
22:59:15 <gluxon> oh...
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22:59:21 <gluxon> I spelled it chirs :P
22:59:44 <gluxon> For a second I thought that was Chris's REAL name :P
22:59:46 <ChrisMorgan> Simeon: OK then... so it's not using fg_main.cxx or at least that method in it?
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23:00:38 <Simeon> it is but before that it has a wizard and this wizard uses the registry to get the userprofile
23:01:07 <ChrisMorgan> sorry g2g
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23:01:25 <alpha1beta> hey gents
23:01:35 <Chazz> 'ello alpha1beta :)
23:02:13 <alpha1beta> sup
23:02:18 <Simeon> bye all
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23:02:29 <gluxon> alpha1beta I haven't seen you since... last year... :P
23:02:39 <alpha1beta> I've been in a few times
23:02:45 <alpha1beta> maybe every other week ish
23:03:00 <alpha1beta> but yes, long time no see
23:03:30 <gluxon> I liked it that way :(
23:03:39 <gluxon> lol, jk :P
23:04:10 <alpha1beta> I'm on IRC 24/7 just not in the room, you can always PM me if you need something
23:04:46 <gluxon> If you're on IRC then why not join this channel? O_O
23:04:54 * Chazz thinks he pm'd alpha1beta at like, 3 AM once... :P
23:05:41 <alpha1beta> cause its not active in PA anymore
23:05:45 <alpha1beta> I barely even use them
23:06:05 <Gizmokid2005> that's what happens when you have a laptop lol
23:06:24 <alpha1beta> I got 2 lol
23:06:31 <alpha1beta> they both come with my to college everyday
23:07:16 <Gizmokid2005> I couldn't carry two around
23:07:19 <Gizmokid2005> once is bad enough
23:07:39 <alpha1beta> its a 12.1 inch tablet, and a 10.1 netbook
23:07:51 <alpha1beta> the tablet is always with me, the netbook sits in the car usually
23:10:32 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, that's not too bad then :)
23:11:03 <alpha1beta> intro to comp, I use both and the 18' flatscreen on the school computer all at once
23:11:38 <alpha1beta> the girl next to me still can't figure out how I do it (this is not another computers major in the class, they're not that bright)
23:14:49 <alpha1beta> anyone know what happened to the PAS being released Wednesday?
23:15:15 <Gizmokid2005> alpha1beta: it's John.
23:15:19 <Gizmokid2005> who knows.
23:15:25 <Gizmokid2005> rarely does he set a deadline and make it.
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23:22:06 <SergentSiler> lol gizmo
23:22:11 <alpha1beta> Yeah, but I mean he published it on lifehacker, you'd think he'd hold to that
23:23:56 <Gizmokid2005> alpha1beta: meh, he made an announcement about other things, I think Platform 1.5 too, and they always passed.
23:24:25 <Gizmokid2005> he's just not good with deadlines, but I'm not holding it against him, i just wish he'd keep them when he gives them, saves me headaches in here.
23:24:50 <alpha1beta> yeah, he should finish stuff and maybe have ryan release it on time :P
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23:27:06 <Horusofoz> Morning All :)
23:27:16 <Chazz> morning Horusofoz :)
23:27:26 <Horusofoz> Hey Chazz
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23:30:15 <Horusofoz> Gizmokid2005: Question regarding the Songbird Portable splash.. Do you think it may be possible to reduce the duration of the splash in a future release? I find that during the 10+ seconds it's on screen I can't really do too much else. Is there a strong reason that it is longer than most other splashes?
23:30:40 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: you can just click on it and it'll go away
23:30:55 <Gizmokid2005> John and I made that decision because it takes so long to start up off of most drives on a first start
23:31:27 <Gizmokid2005> after the app has been launched on the pc once, it'll usually not take nearly as long, but on a first start on the PC, it'll take between 15 and 20 seconds usually
23:31:42 <Horusofoz> I didn't realise you could just click on it. Cheers. That's been an annoyance for a while. All fixed with a single click ;)
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23:32:15 <Gizmokid2005> Yep Horusofoz, any app's splash is that way
23:32:19 <Gizmokid2005> just clicking on it makes it go away :)
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23:52:34 <Horusofoz> nick/ Horusofoz|Away
23:52:47 <Horusofoz> oops :p
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23:55:35 <rcmaehl> If you see PatrickPateince tell him his site has a virus
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23:57:16 <Chazz> rcmaehl, mhmm... riiiight...
23:57:27 <rcmaehl> according to norton
23:57:40 <rcmaehl> want the link?
23:57:43 <Chazz> *coughfalsepositivecough*
23:58:06 <rcmaehl> http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http:%2F%2Fpatrickpatience.com%2Fnascent-project%2Fportableapps%2Firc%2Flogs%2F%3Ft=2009-07-25
23:58:39 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: why don't you actually read the links you post?
23:58:54 <Gizmokid2005> What "virus" it says it found, is exactly what the file is supposed to be....
23:59:09 <Gizmokid2005> AngryIPScanner is what it "found" and is exactly what that file is supposed to contain.