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01:51:42 <Chazz> Dev Release: Bash Portable Developement Test 5, http://portableapps.com/node/20277
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04:54:10 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 and GEdit Portable! (And Gnumeric Portable) :D
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05:16:07 <pa_0501> I am running Chrome portable from a network location and it won't save my bookkmarks, etc. Any ideas?
05:23:31 <pa_0501> I will go to bed for now but will stay logged in until morning in hopes of answer...
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06:53:23 <Bensawsome> EVIL SPAM: http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/550181.html
06:53:26 <Bensawsome> err
06:53:33 <Bensawsome> shoot it didnt copy the right link >:(
06:53:44 <Bensawsome> where did that link even come from o_0
06:53:54 <Bensawsome> anywho here is the real spam link: http://portableapps.com/node/18302#comment-132021
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07:47:31 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
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08:23:28 <padawan> hi, it would be possible that you release ffxportable 3.0.15 some day?
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08:24:34 <ChrisMorgan> *sigh* I was just about to respond...
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09:57:16 <pa_8400> Hello, a short question just to be sure.
09:57:54 <pa_8400> There are no problems in using Applications for USB on PC directly?
09:58:37 <pa_8400> There are the same benefits like on usb. For exsaplese easy and complete uninstall when not needed anymore. right?
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10:01:56 <pa_2101> somebody there?
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10:13:58 <sar3th> hello pa_2101, how can we help you?
10:54:12 <pa_0501> I am running Chrome portable from a network location and it won't save my bookmarks, etc. Any ideas? @8400 - I have not tried using USB
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11:15:04 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
11:15:34 <ChrisMorgan> pa_2101: do you have a question to ask?
11:15:57 <ChrisMorgan> pa_0501: are you using it with a UNC path (e.g. \\computer\c$\PortableApps\ChromePortable) or with a drive mapping?
11:17:01 <pa_0501> I think just UNC as I recall.
11:17:11 <pa_0501> Would the drive mapping do the trick?
11:17:17 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
11:17:25 <ChrisMorgan> UNC paths are unsupported by all our applications.
11:17:37 <ChrisMorgan> They may work in a few but in most they'll cause the launcher to misbehave
11:17:40 <pa_0501> How can I fix it now. Reinstall? Map a drive?
11:17:47 <ChrisMorgan> Map a drive.
11:18:01 <pa_0501> Cool. Thanks for the help!
11:18:13 <ChrisMorgan> If you haven't done anything with it it could also be a good idea to remove the Data directory (so that there's no chance of corruption due to it)
11:18:47 <pa_0501> cool
11:18:58 <ChrisMorgan> Also make sure that the host computer has permissions set so that you will be able to write to the drive (in Vista and I think XP the default custom share (i.e. not c$, d$, e$, ...) permissions are read only)
11:21:59 <pa_0501> So it should be e, not e$?
11:22:18 <ChrisMorgan> It's fine to use the admin shares; that way you don't have to set them up :-)
11:22:27 <ChrisMorgan> But just map them (explorer or net use, either will do)
11:24:38 <pa_0501> cool
11:24:53 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I'm hopping off again now. Goodnight :-)
11:26:16 <ChrisMorgan> 10:25pm here in Melbourne, Australia, while it's still fairly early this morning with you in America... today is a good day for you ;-)
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11:52:37 <pa_6813> hi
11:52:52 <pa_6813> wanna know how to create portable apps
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13:41:22 <MaxDirty> hey, i need some help
13:42:02 <MaxDirty> how i can safe unistall a program of portableapps
13:43:43 <MaxDirty> has some one in the room?
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13:45:52 <Mir> MaxDirty: just delete the directory
13:45:58 <pa_0159> Is there any problem in Using an installig Portable Application on the Drive (C:) ?
13:46:10 <Mir> pa_0159: no
13:46:38 <Mir> there is no problem
13:46:40 <MaxDirty> and the icon in the program will be desapear?
13:46:55 <Mir> MaxDirty: it should
13:47:45 <pa_0159> Thanks
13:47:49 <MaxDirty> tks, i'm a real newbee
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15:32:45 <pa_3465> help!
15:32:45 <GizmoBot> pa_3465: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
15:34:23 <pa_3465> I have registered today as a user to be able to post on the portal, but when I try to login it tells me everytime that my password does not match with my userid. I have already twice reset the pwd and still get the same error message.
15:35:28 <pa_3465> My password contains special characters, could this be the problem? But it has been accepted by the system when changing to this pwd.
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16:12:32 <pa_3465> .
16:16:37 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3465: we can't help you with site login issues here, nobody in here has access to that information.
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16:30:55 <pa_3465> Gizmokid2005: Thx for your answer. In that case I need to find an address for the Website Administrator. Have a nice day.
16:31:07 <Gizmokid2005> no problem pa_3465 you as well
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18:29:53 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
18:32:46 <Bensawsome> why hello thar SteveLamerton ^_^
18:33:10 <Gizmokid2005> hello Mr. SteveLamerton
18:33:22 <SteveLamerton> Hello Bensawsome, Gizmokid2005
18:33:31 <Gizmokid2005> how are you SteveLamerton?
18:34:26 <SteveLamerton> Pretty good, just been to a meeting of the Computer Society here, looks like FOSDEM should be on!
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18:35:39 <Gizmokid2005> sounds great SteveLamerton!! :)
18:36:00 <SteveLamerton> I thought so, I am just planning a post to the forums to gauge interest as well
18:37:53 <Bensawsome> omg im going to the interop conference in new york this month :3
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19:05:39 <SteveLamerton> Does this look ok to everyone: http://portableapps.com/node/21306 ?
19:08:58 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: I could do with your opinion ;)
19:09:15 <Gizmokid2005> checking SteveLamerton
19:09:26 <MaienM|Sleep> looks fine SteveLamerton ;)
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19:09:59 <SteveLamerton> Thanks MaienM, Gizmokid2005
19:10:17 <Gizmokid2005> I'll agree SteveLamerton looks good, though www.fosdem.org isn't loading.
19:10:21 <Gizmokid2005> .o down fosdem.org
19:10:32 <GizmoBot> It's down.
19:10:45 <SteveLamerton> Annoying isnt it ;)
19:10:52 <Gizmokid2005> ever so slightly
19:16:37 <SteveLamerton> I bet someone will post and point it out ;)
19:17:13 <Gizmokid2005> most likely
19:17:15 <Gizmokid2005> if it stays down
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19:33:50 <_kai_62656_> grr
19:33:57 <Phazon> rawr
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20:00:49 <pa_1235> Hello, I get a warning stating windows cannot access specific drive path.
20:01:09 <pa_1235> I dl'd the suite right to my USB drive
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20:17:56 <Nerd42> Hey, anybody awake here?
20:18:13 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> yes Nerd42 ask away
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20:18:28 <Nerd42> ever used FreeMind?
20:18:37 <Nerd42> its a GPL mind mapping software
20:18:46 <sar3th> yeah
20:19:10 <Nerd42> basically one of those things geeks love which do on a screen that would be soooooo much easier to do on paper
20:19:28 <Nerd42> well the problem with it is that nodes can only have one parent
20:19:46 <Nerd42> its strongly wedded to this hiearchial structure which isn't always what you want to draw
20:20:03 <Nerd42> is there anything like it which can have nodes with multiple parents?
20:20:22 <Nerd42> I was thinking of drawing up a proposal for a new tech tree to add to an RTS game :)
20:20:39 <Nerd42> based on organic cell reproduction by division
20:21:16 <SteveLamerton> Nerd42: Would something like Dia work for you?
20:22:43 <Nerd42> never heard of Dia. googling now
20:22:52 <sar3th> .pa dia
20:22:52 <Nerd42> Defense Intelligence Agency
20:22:53 <GizmoBot> sar3th: Dia Portable: http://portableapps.com/apps/office/dia_portable
20:22:59 <SteveLamerton> http://portableapps.com/apps/office/dia_portable
20:22:59 <sar3th> ;)
20:23:03 <Nerd42> awesome
20:23:22 <Nerd42> should work
20:23:23 <Nerd42> thanks
20:24:10 <Nerd42> friend of mine's been uploading a patched version of the official Second Life client that's a portable app
20:24:50 <Nerd42> but seriously, what's needed is a portable app version of the Hippo Viewer http://mjm-labs.com/viewer/
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20:24:57 <Nerd42> that'll let you connect to Second Life AND OpenSim grids.
20:25:50 <Nerd42> like lots of apps, it's packaged in a stupid installer, but since most settings are kept track of in the same directory, you can get away with not installing it
20:26:04 <Nerd42> Hippo Viewer (and SnowGlobe viewer) are open source
20:27:05 <Gizmokid2005> good suggestion Nerd42, post it in the request apps forum :)
20:27:35 <Nerd42> meh there's already a thread for it http://portableapps.com/node/15340
20:28:30 <Nerd42> i actually made the package and BenMcLean uploaded it
20:28:56 <Nerd42> i should prolly take over, i think he's lost interest in second life
20:29:36 <Gizmokid2005> Nerd42: yeah, doesn't look like they are actually making it conform to the PortableApps.com specs
20:29:40 <Gizmokid2005> and it'd probably be a great addition
20:30:15 <Nerd42> they can't
20:30:24 <Nerd42> the OFFICIAL second life viewer is not open source
20:30:45 <Gizmokid2005> you can Nerd42, as long as it is freeware :)
20:30:45 <Nerd42> SnowGlobe (which Linden sponsors) is and Hippo Viewer is
20:30:59 <Nerd42> oh
20:31:26 <Nerd42> well i don't think the official viewer is liscensed to be OK with what we're actually doing on that thread even though it's freeware
20:31:43 <Nerd42> SnowGlobe is, Hippo Viewer is, and those have the same functionality
20:32:36 <Nerd42> we should just go with those
20:32:47 <Nerd42> linden is looking into federating their protocol anyway
20:41:44 <Bensawsome> Nerd42 last time i checked seconf lide was open source
20:41:52 <Bensawsome> second life too >_<
20:41:53 <Bensawsome> lol
20:42:09 <Bensawsome> also there are various launchers for second life across the forums
20:42:23 <Bensawsome> there is a wonderful search box in the upper right hand corner of the forums ;)
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20:44:41 <sar3th> .pa second life
20:44:41 <GizmoBot> sar3th: Second Life Launcher: http://portableapps.com/node/15340
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20:47:51 <Nerd42> Bensawsome, the OFFICIAL second life viewer is not open source. SnowGlobe is.
20:48:22 <Nerd42> Bensawsome, and what we need as a portable app is really HippoViewer which can connect to OpenSim AND second life grids.
20:48:42 <Nerd42> i just made a posty about it http://portableapps.com/node/15340#comment-132082
20:48:54 <Bensawsome> k gimme a minute
20:49:05 <Bensawsome> also do you have a link to the hippoviewer one Nerd42?
20:49:13 <Bensawsome> or is it on their site also
20:49:45 <Nerd42> its in my post
20:49:52 <Nerd42> (the link)
20:50:01 <Nerd42> hippo viewer http://mjm-labs.com/viewer/
20:50:03 <Bensawsome> oh ok
20:50:35 <Bensawsome> ok. well if someone wants to take it up they will.
20:50:46 <Bensawsome> otherwise you'll have to deal with the launchers for now :/
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20:51:29 <Nerd42> yep
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22:34:07 <pa_7850> hi there I have a question
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22:35:05 <pa_7850> may portableapps work under pocketpc?
22:36:28 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7850: no.
22:36:35 <Gizmokid2005> only Wine and actual versions of windows.
22:37:21 <pa_7850> uhm it is no good
22:38:11 <Gizmokid2005> Huh?
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22:39:29 <pa_7850> I have a m810 eten with windows mobile 6
22:39:59 <pa_7850> I need to use portable apps under this operting system
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22:41:09 <Gizmokid2005> You can't pa_7850, the architecture is not similar to regular windows platforms.
22:41:17 <Gizmokid2005> it's simply not possible.
22:42:34 <pa_7850> I understand But I don't like it :)
22:45:51 <pa_7850> thank a lot
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22:55:34 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
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23:10:23 * ChrisMorgan has just had a random idea about one crazy way to fix OpenOffice.org Portable's >256-character path length problem... make the launcher use subst. What a silly way to fix it that would be :P
23:10:43 <ChrisMorgan> And it wouldn't work if they had already mapped 26 drives...
23:11:06 <Gizmokid2005> and you'd still have to find a drive that isn't used...
23:11:14 <ChrisMorgan> Meh, that part's simple.
23:11:43 <ChrisMorgan> Just make sure it's not in ${GetDrives} would be the simplest way of doing it I reckon
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23:14:57 <ChrisMorgan> I think that I might try that some time soon... build in a Special Feature into the PortableApps.com Installer so that the wizard finds the longest path that it will have to deal with and then restricts how deep the user can install it.
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23:16:48 <ChrisMorgan> In OpenOffice.org Portable the longest path name is App\openoffice\share\uno_packages\cache\registry\com.sun.star.comp.deployment.configuration.PackageRegistryBackend\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\Linguistic.xcu (165 characters) so restrict the installation path to 89 characters (89+slash+165=255 which is the longest safe path length).
23:17:13 <ChrisMorgan> And make the installer put that in somewhere where the launcher will also see it and complain (in case they subsequently move it)
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23:18:18 <ChrisMorgan> So glad it knows what it is.
23:18:59 <Gizmokid2005> Yep :)
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