IRC Log from 2009-11-05

00:00:19 <Happehwalrus> Do you have a computer with XP?
00:01:24 <ChrisMorgan> Not active at the moment.
00:01:31 <ChrisMorgan> But I've had it working fine on XP.
00:02:45 <ChrisMorgan> (I've never used the PortableApps.com Platform as my main starting point for running my applications, I've always used them with Command Prompt Portable with macros. I just use the Platform when people need to test something :-) )
00:03:15 <Gizmokid2005> I will add, it does work on Win7 Ultimate 64-bit and XP Pro 32-bit
00:03:19 <Gizmokid2005> it might be some corrupt icon cache.
00:03:26 <Gizmokid2005> can you open any of the icons directly?
00:05:22 <ChrisMorgan> I see that John is following the same line of thought as we are...
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00:06:13 <ChrisMorgan> Happehwalrus: might be able to try TeamViewer
00:06:33 <ChrisMorgan> This is non-commercial use...
00:07:35 <Happehwalrus> Okay.
00:07:46 <ChrisMorgan> I've just downloaded it and am running it.
00:08:01 <ChrisMorgan> If you want to try it, PM me with the details
00:09:51 <ChrisMorgan> I doubt I'll be able to fix it but I might possibly be able to track down what the problem stems from
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00:17:20 <ChrisMorgan> Wow. Clunky.
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00:34:48 <ChrisMorgan> OK, see how we go on restart, Happehwalrus :-)
00:34:59 <ChrisMorgan> Wow that was clunky...
00:35:11 <ChrisMorgan> Whoa... my computer is so fast ;-)
00:35:33 <Happehwalrus> I have HughesNet, that might cause the lags.
00:35:44 <ChrisMorgan> I can click on something and it actually happens... AND within one and a half minutes :P
00:35:51 <Happehwalrus> Anyway, I"ll restart.
00:35:53 <ChrisMorgan> is it dialup?
00:35:56 <ChrisMorgan> OK, see you soon
00:36:02 <Happehwalrus> No, satellite.
00:36:09 <ChrisMorgan> OK
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00:36:18 <ChrisMorgan> That might introduce lag
00:37:34 <Gizmokid2005> most satellite connections utilize Dialup for the uploades
00:37:37 <Gizmokid2005> *uploades
00:37:40 <Gizmokid2005> **uploads
00:37:51 <Gizmokid2005> plus, satellite has a lot of lag to it beacuse of the distance it has to travel
00:38:01 <Gizmokid2005> (have a satellite guy at work :) )
00:38:32 <ChrisMorgan> Yeeeouch.
00:39:08 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah.
00:39:23 <Gizmokid2005> typically you'll see at least 500ms lag one way in a satellite connection
00:39:32 <ChrisMorgan> 'Cos inside Uniblue SpeedUpMyPC 2009 I was clicking... and most of the time it would miss the click completely, sometimes it would pick up what happened from my mouse move 15-20 seconds later.
00:39:52 <ChrisMorgan> ("2 minutes can save you months of frustration and crashes." they say. Possibly ironic.)
00:40:26 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
00:45:07 <ChrisMorgan> SpeedUpMyPC 2009 says it supports 32-bit, no mention of 64-bit at all and it does explicitly have "32-bit" in its pictures of supported OSes (XP,Vista)
00:45:28 <ChrisMorgan> Remotely possible that it's a side-effect
00:46:25 <ChrisMorgan> And it has a "Windows Vista COMPATIBLE - 32" badge
00:47:40 <ChrisMorgan> "Just wanted to let you all know that Uniblue (Speed Up My PC, Registry Booster, etc.) has nothing that will work with 64 bit. I made the mistake of downloading and purchasing it and than found out after that it won't work with 64-bit. I ended up having to get a refund because they told me they don't have any products right now that will work with 64-bit."
00:48:20 <ZachThibeau> ouch sorry to hear ChrisMorgan
00:48:56 <ChrisMorgan> http://forums.overclockersclub.com/index.php?showtopic=74253
00:49:14 <ChrisMorgan> But he said it was 64-bit... didn't verify it myself, may need to do that
00:50:10 <ChrisMorgan> It's a thread about v3 not v2009, but it's only from April.
00:50:17 <ChrisMorgan> And they don't say anything themselves about 64-bit
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01:11:30 <gluxon> ChrisMorgan!
01:11:44 <ChrisMorgan> Yes?
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01:13:01 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Bisy Backson
01:13:23 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> So, as owl would suggest, look for a Spotted or Herbacious Backson...
01:13:45 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Better still, read Chapter Five of The House at Pooh Corner
01:14:22 <gluxon> Okay, you have to educate me on what subversion is :P
01:14:41 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> In which Rabbit has a Busy Day, and we learn what Christopher Robin Does in his Mornings
01:14:54 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> gluxon: why? Don't you know?
01:15:00 <gluxon> I know it involves downloading and pulling stuff, but what does that have to do with Eclipse?
01:15:14 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> You added code for supporting SVN plugins didn't you?
01:15:25 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> I distinctly recall you saying you did and seeing it.
01:15:32 <gluxon> uh... no.
01:15:48 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Didn't you make it back up $APPDATA\Subversion?
01:16:03 <gluxon> no.
01:16:04 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Hmm... must have been someone else's code then..?
01:16:15 <gluxon> Well, I was trying to figure out what it did.
01:16:18 <gluxon> And what it is!
01:16:55 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Subversion is a version control system.
01:17:17 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> It is supported by Eclipse via two popular plugins, Subclipse and Subversive.
01:17:32 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> But passwords are stored in clear text in $APPDATA\Subversion
01:17:50 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> So if you tick "save password" it's not portable.
01:18:12 <gluxon> wait, so do I integrate both subclipse and subversive, or do they both have some subversion relationship with files?
01:18:32 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> You PANIC! ;-)
01:18:40 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Does Eclipse need to restart when you install plugins?
01:19:03 <gluxon> For some.
01:19:15 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> They both use the core SVN client libs; all SVN clients will save passwords in $APPDATA\Subversion
01:19:24 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Hmm... what does EP do with it then?
01:19:37 <gluxon> I have go in 5 minutes.
01:19:40 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Restart and the launcher waits, or close and reopen?
01:19:52 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Does Eclipse restart itself?
01:19:56 <gluxon> Yeah.
01:20:02 <gluxon> But for some reason the .exe doesn't close.
01:20:18 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> OK, that's a pity, it makes that fix not OK then...
01:20:22 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Hmm...
01:20:54 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> I think I'll just pass it over then until later.
01:21:01 <gluxon> But, I'm just wondering one thing, what does eclipse have to do with subversion?
01:22:13 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> IDE integration with version control.
01:22:24 <gluxon> um... okay?
01:22:47 <gluxon> So, can we do environment variables to solve the problem? :)
01:22:50 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Oh come on, that's exciting! "Hooray!" and all that!
01:22:52 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> See http://subclipse.tigris.org/ and http://www.eclipse.org/subversive/
01:22:56 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> No, we can't.
01:23:14 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Not yet anyhow.
01:23:19 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> It's got to be move-move
01:23:25 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> But just leave it for the moment.
01:23:35 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> I'll retract my don't-release-yet request
01:24:40 <gluxon> well, okay.
01:24:41 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Hey, I like the instructions in the "Report a Problem" section at http://subversion.tigris.org/
01:25:07 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> We'll just say "Don't save passwords if you use an SVN plugin!"
01:25:12 * gluxon despises subversion.
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01:26:21 <gluxon> bye.
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01:26:51 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan|bisy, is 'busy' perhaps what you're looking for? :P
01:27:06 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Chazz: no. Read Chapter Five.
01:27:11 <Chazz> Of?
01:27:20 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> The House at Pooh Corner
01:27:24 <Chazz> Ok then...
01:27:36 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> As I said earlier :P
01:27:55 <Chazz> lol
01:28:05 <SergentSiler> lol
01:28:14 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> Oh, very well. http://www.winnie-pooh.org/rabbit-busy-day.htm
01:28:35 <JoeYoung> Kaiba: "It looks like the rules... *puts on shades* ...just got screwed. YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!"
01:31:14 <ChrisMorgan|bisy> JoeYoung: wrong channel perhaps?
01:31:24 <JoeYoung> perhaps
01:31:40 <JoeYoung> But it's so awesome I think I can be forgiven this one time :)
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01:31:47 <SergentSiler> ...lol
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01:32:10 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
01:32:21 <SergentSiler> wb ChrisMorgan :P
01:32:40 <ChrisMorgan> That chapter five contains what I think is my favourite extract from Winnie the Pooh; '"Clever!" said Eeyore scornfully, putting a foot heavily on his three sticks. "Education!" said Eeyore bitterly, jumping on his six sticks. "What is Learning?" asked Eeyore as he kicked his twelve sticks into the air. "A thing Rabbit knows! Ha!"'
01:32:44 <ChrisMorgan> Not sure quite what happened then. KVIrc closed, properly it appears, but I don't know why...
01:33:00 <SergentSiler> o_O
01:33:03 <Chazz> O_o
01:33:44 <ChrisMorgan> Oh come on. Admit it. You wish you could write like that too.
01:33:56 <Chazz> I do. :P
01:34:10 <ChrisMorgan> Good. I definitely do... *sigh*
01:37:57 * ChrisMorgan votes that we clear out all the nag comments (and responses to) from the platform beta thread. On the last page alone there are around 27 such.
01:38:47 <Chazz> O_o
01:38:48 <ChrisMorgan> And then also requests for categories... there go another dozen at least...
01:38:54 * Chazz agrees.
01:39:06 <ChrisMorgan> And that illegal one on page 3 which can happily go, its link has already
01:39:55 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, there was an illegal one?
01:40:07 <ChrisMorgan> It's on four pages... I reckon that there's no need for it to be more than two...
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01:40:23 <ChrisMorgan> Chazz: yes
01:40:25 <JohnTHaller> Hey guys... quick status update: http://portableapps.com/node/21342
01:40:26 <ZachThibeau> howdy JoeYoung
01:40:27 <ChrisMorgan> Hello JohnTHaller :-)
01:40:30 <ZachThibeau> I mean JohnTHaller
01:40:31 <JohnTHaller> Hi all
01:40:32 <Chazz> :p
01:40:36 <Chazz> JohnTHaller! :D
01:40:39 * SergentSiler waves hello to JTH
01:40:58 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: what do you reckon, I reckon that we should clear out all the nag comments from the platform beta thread, that'd save at least 28 posts...
01:41:16 <JohnTHaller> nah, it's ok. new beta will drop shortly... hoping by friday
01:41:24 <ChrisMorgan> I agree with you about non-maintainable for the updater.
01:41:28 <JohnTHaller> posted the status update with the info on why the delay happened and the new plan.
01:41:30 <ChrisMorgan> I was planning on rewriting it :-(
01:41:48 <JohnTHaller> i couldn't deal with afile, afiles, tvar1, tvar2, goto +5, etc anymore. it was insane.
01:42:01 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. Terrible.
01:43:05 <ChrisMorgan> I cleaned b1 once. I got it down to about 40% of the size (sections/functions) in several hours with one or two minor bugs fixed AND I could actually then work out what it was doing.
01:43:16 <ChrisMorgan> LogicLib is good :-)
01:43:44 <ChrisMorgan> Those installer improvements I was suggesting, can I do them, after spec 1.0?
01:43:55 <JohnTHaller> the updater b1?
01:44:00 <ChrisMorgan> Beta 1
01:44:06 <ChrisMorgan> The last version
01:44:33 <ChrisMorgan> Also I retract my request that Eclipse Portable be not released. I thought that gluxon had added code which apparently he hasn't.
01:44:35 <JohnTHaller> do me a favor and shoot it over to me. you may have some ideas i hadn't thought of (read: i like your style... coding, that is)
01:44:44 <ChrisMorgan> :P
01:44:48 <ChrisMorgan> I'll see if I can still find it
01:45:10 <JohnTHaller> I showed you the old screenshots right? the look is the same... the code is just followable now
01:45:12 <ChrisMorgan> We should just note that users shouldn't save passwords if they install the Subclipse or Subversive plugins.
01:45:23 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah
01:47:20 <JohnTHaller> Oh, I'm dropping the new PA.c Installer 1.0... I built in the ability for the updater to have the installers either hidden or minimized. Not sure how well it'll work (it may flash the finish window briefly), but it's work trying so that users aren't bugged much. it also automatically handles the EULA now and stores in data which version they agreed to (bypassing it on updates).
01:47:56 <ChrisMorgan> Uhh... I've found one cleanup which I did but not the whole cleanup I did :-(
01:48:10 <ChrisMorgan> Got a feeling that was the day my laptop wouldn't wake up and I had to kill it :-(
01:48:22 <ChrisMorgan> And I hadn't saved it (silly, silly, silly...)
01:48:37 <JohnTHaller> ouch
01:48:44 <ChrisMorgan> So I think I've only got the LogicLibbisation of it, not the proper cleanup :-(
01:48:49 <ChrisMorgan> So it's probably no use to you.
01:48:59 <ChrisMorgan> You will have got much further
01:49:02 <JohnTHaller> eh, send it on anyway. maybe some of your bits are in there,.
01:49:16 <JohnTHaller> i'm only about 1/2 way done. adding has some issues.
01:49:48 <ChrisMorgan> I found one bit I wasn't sure of in it where he had a StrCmp to +2 but the next four were indented
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01:50:26 <JohnTHaller> btw - I'm thinknig about allowing the spec to have the Start= in the appinfo.ini be a deeper EXE than the root provided they drop the universal PA.c Launcher in the root. If the PA.c Launcher doesn't have a config file (App\AppInfo\launcher.ini) it'll just start what's in Appinfo.ini Start. What do you think?
01:51:41 <ChrisMorgan> Sounds good
01:52:18 <ChrisMorgan> But then, flexibility in that respect may just breed confusion.
01:52:34 <ChrisMorgan> Might be best to force the launcher INI to be there.
01:53:05 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, that's true, too
01:53:13 <ChrisMorgan> So if the launcher INI goes in AppInfo\launcher.ini, how do we cope with multiple launchers like TB and TB address book, or OO.o as it currently is?
01:54:01 <JohnTHaller> appinfo.ini will just point to start=PA.cLauncher.exe
01:54:12 <JohnTHaller> launcher.ini will include the full details on it.
01:54:20 <JohnTHaller> TB address book installs as a sep app
01:54:27 <JohnTHaller> Only OO.o is special for now.
01:54:50 <ChrisMorgan> My scheme was renaming the launcher executable and having it look for an INI matching its own name
01:55:00 <ChrisMorgan> It worked fine with me
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01:55:15 <JohnTHaller> We may just use Start.exe as the launcher name for all apps
01:55:38 <ChrisMorgan> And then only support a single launcher per package.
01:56:27 <ChrisMorgan> Several people have been voicing severe doubts about the launcher working for everything (Songbird in particular with its SQL and hex work). What do you think on that front?
01:57:30 <JohnTHaller> SQL will be an optional part and isn't that hard to include. The hex stuff isn't too bad either. There's nothing wrong with us doing custom launchers for a couple complex apps honestly.
01:58:25 <ChrisMorgan> I also thought about the possibility of using System::Call with App\Songbird\xulrunner\sqlite3.dll instead of nsExec::Exec on App\SQLite\sqlite3.exe with Songbird... could simplify it a bit
01:58:47 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... that's not a bad avenue to explore
01:59:32 <JohnTHaller> I gotta come into IRC more. I've been working in a vacuum this week. It's lonely...
01:59:38 <ChrisMorgan> Not doing so yet though, I'll put that on my todo list... which is in my forgetful brain :/
01:59:41 <ChrisMorgan> Yay! :-)
02:00:04 <ChrisMorgan> Nothin' particularly tasty to breathe in vacuum either...
02:01:51 <ChrisMorgan> I like the "Stay portable!" closing line :-)
02:05:00 <JohnTHaller> hehe thanks
02:05:12 <JohnTHaller> it made me think "You stay classy San Diego"
02:05:25 <ChrisMorgan> Means nothing to me :P
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02:17:07 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: did you have to repair the database again when Rackspace had their UPS failure this week?
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02:20:24 <JohnTHaller> Thankfully, no. But we were still out for a while because a tech didn't do their job. They saw the alert and responded to it but never bothered to check if the site came back up.
02:20:40 <ChrisMorgan> :/
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02:21:24 <ChrisMorgan> I saw that it was out for at least an hour, but then the next morning the thread I'd created an hour or so before the failure was still there so I decided it mustn't have died... or that the daily backup was timed *just* before it died.
02:21:47 <JohnTHaller> We did get a service credit for it at least. But still. We pay about double what hosting would be elsewhere for RackSpace so we don't have to worry about it.
02:22:13 <ChrisMorgan> yup
02:25:15 <ChrisMorgan> GPL2: "The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it." I think that for us that means that the source code is their built binaries...
02:25:38 <ChrisMorgan> I still disagree with the common reading of the GPL v2.0 that we have to distribute the source code the way we do :-)
02:26:07 <ChrisMorgan> A three year guarrantee that they'll continue to host it is enough by my reading.
02:26:10 <ChrisMorgan> But anyway :P
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02:30:43 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: that lightbox clone you've got, when you click on an ordinary image (say the image horusofoz has linked to in the quick update thread) you get the loader thing briefly then it stops. Then you've got to click again to open it (and not in the lb)
02:32:15 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: should I remove the subtle reference to one of those bad sites at http://portableapps.com/node/21341#comment-132373 ?
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02:32:49 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon it's the sort of thing to go (edit removal, not deletion)... it's almost as good as linking to it.
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02:34:11 <JohnTHaller> remind him to stop referencing it at all
02:34:13 <computerfreaker> Hi! How's everyone doing?
02:34:29 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, done it.
02:34:33 <ChrisMorgan> hey computerfreaker
02:34:47 <computerfreaker> Hi Chris! :)
02:34:48 <ChrisMorgan> Can we help you with anything or are you just "lurking"?
02:34:51 <computerfreaker> What's up?
02:35:07 <computerfreaker> I'm just "lurking" right now...
02:35:23 <computerfreaker> This is my first time ever on IRC... looks like fun stuff!
02:36:26 <Whibo> :D
02:39:02 * Chazz <3 IRC, especially #portableapps :D
02:40:53 <computerfreaker> Say, does anyone know where I can find some free hosting for open-source projects?
02:41:10 <ChrisMorgan> computerfreaker: SourceForge, Google Code
02:41:13 <ChrisMorgan> I like Google Code more.
02:41:18 <ChrisMorgan> PortableApps.com uses SourceForge
02:41:31 <computerfreaker> Sourceforge won't work, unfortunately, since I'm < 18... at least, if I understand their terms correctly
02:41:54 <ChrisMorgan> Don't recall that being a problem when I created an account there at least
02:42:09 <ChrisMorgan> Good to see another person who actually cares about those sorts of things :-)
02:42:32 <computerfreaker> ok, let me go check their terms again... IIRC, the registration page said "you must be over 18 to create an account here" when I saw it last
02:43:11 <ChrisMorgan> I registered a few years ago, they have had a change of T&C several months ago
02:43:19 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, Google Code is good
02:43:31 <computerfreaker> ok, I'll check out Google Code...
02:43:45 <computerfreaker> only worry is whether my parents will let me register or not ;)
02:43:54 <ChrisMorgan> What's the project?
02:44:09 <computerfreaker> it's actually a couple of projects, a virtual desktop app and a few games
02:44:24 <ChrisMorgan> Virtual desktop app?
02:44:29 <computerfreaker> yes
02:44:32 <ChrisMorgan> As in VirtuaWin style?
02:44:57 <computerfreaker> haven't used VirtuaWin, but my app hides Explorer and temporarily takes over its functionality
02:45:10 <ChrisMorgan> Like bbLean
02:45:13 <ChrisMorgan> BlackBox
02:45:31 <computerfreaker> never used any of those apps.... I've heard of bbLean though, sounds similar
02:45:48 <ChrisMorgan> bbLean/BlackBox are the same just about
02:45:53 <ChrisMorgan> There's also LightSomething
02:46:25 <computerfreaker> *Looking up Blackbox*
02:46:33 <ChrisMorgan> Look for bblean
02:46:36 <computerfreaker> ok
02:46:45 <ChrisMorgan> Can't remember the precise connection
02:46:55 <ChrisMorgan> Think blackbox is a linux thing and bblean is the Windows clone
02:47:00 <ChrisMorgan> Or version
02:47:01 <ChrisMorgan> Or whatever
02:47:35 <computerfreaker> well, I'm checking Wikipedia right now - bbLean article is loading
02:47:46 <computerfreaker> ah, I've got it
02:47:56 <computerfreaker> bbLean = "BlackBox Lean" - a leaner version of Blackbox
02:49:11 <computerfreaker> John, if I can get those apps fully PA.c-compliant, would you be willing to add them on here?
02:49:19 <computerfreaker> they'll be OSS when I finally get them out
02:49:34 <ChrisMorgan> computerfreaker: make them first so that they're best-of-breed
02:49:39 <ChrisMorgan> And have had a few releases
02:49:40 <ChrisMorgan> Then yes
02:49:52 <computerfreaker> ok, thanks for the tips!
02:50:34 <computerfreaker> I assume it's OK if I ask people to beta-test in the Beta Testing forums? Not sure what the 3rd-party rule is
02:50:45 <ChrisMorgan> So long as it's open source.
02:50:54 <computerfreaker> yes, it's open-source
02:50:55 <ChrisMorgan> Make the application first though... most don't get far.
02:51:21 <computerfreaker> I have the games pretty well ready to go (a few more features in each); the virtual desktop thing has a longer way to go, though
02:51:31 <ChrisMorgan> What do the games do?
02:52:01 <ChrisMorgan> Also make sure that none of it's .NET or has other dependencies which you won't be able to meet
02:52:01 <computerfreaker> one's a space-shooter game, and one's a Windows port of GNOME robots
02:52:13 <computerfreaker> no dependencies except a few DLL's which are packaged in a folder next to the app
02:52:24 <ChrisMorgan> OK
02:52:46 <computerfreaker> Just saw some bbLean screenshots, WOW.
02:53:17 <ChrisMorgan> Is the robots one better or smaller than http://sourceforge.net/projects/robotsgame/ ?
02:53:37 <computerfreaker> let me check out that SourceForget project, brb
02:53:42 <ChrisMorgan> Single, half megabyte executable... you'll find that hard to beat :P
02:53:49 <ChrisMorgan> command-line
02:53:55 <computerfreaker> mine's a GUI app
02:54:00 <ChrisMorgan> :P
02:54:02 <computerfreaker> unfortunately, it's 3.75 MB
02:54:10 <ChrisMorgan> That's fairly small
02:54:12 <ChrisMorgan> That's fine.
02:54:15 <computerfreaker> ok
02:54:24 <ChrisMorgan> Smaller than many of our apps...
02:54:40 <ChrisMorgan> What's it written in?
02:54:44 <computerfreaker> well, for my dialup connection, 1 MB is decent-sized and 3 MB is big... lol
02:54:49 <computerfreaker> it's written in REALbasic
02:54:49 <JohnTHaller> heh
02:54:54 <JohnTHaller> oh wow
02:54:56 <computerfreaker> a cross-platform BASIC dialect
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02:55:14 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, looked at it a bit.
02:56:20 <ChrisMorgan> Dad looked at it a bit for thinking of switching WaterSums (commercial software he writes) from VB.NET, but it also depends on IE and the Adobe SVG Viewer currently.
02:56:23 <ChrisMorgan> So no go.
02:56:41 <computerfreaker> if he ever switches, let me suggest you go with RB 2008r5.1
02:56:49 <computerfreaker> the 2009 releases have been bad, and getting worse
02:56:53 <ChrisMorgan> I very much doubt he will
02:58:30 <ChrisMorgan> It's more likely to turn into a full web application... jQuery, jQuery UI and jqGrid could make light work of practically all the rest of the UI at the moment.
02:58:41 <computerfreaker> cool.
02:58:50 <computerfreaker> I know some Java, but nothing that advanced
03:00:01 <ChrisMorgan> But that's off-topic here. Still, must advertise it ;-)
03:00:07 <computerfreaker> :)
03:01:10 <computerfreaker> anyone know of a portable, desktop-based bug tracker?
03:01:18 <ChrisMorgan> ow.
03:01:19 <ChrisMorgan> No.
03:01:30 * Chazz doesn't know of any desktop-based bug trackers period! :P
03:01:42 <ChrisMorgan> TaskCoach could probably do though.
03:01:48 <computerfreaker> sorry to ask again (posted on the forums earlier today), but it's fairly important so I can keep everything under control
03:01:59 <computerfreaker> TaskCoach... lucky for me I actually have it :)
03:02:03 <ChrisMorgan> TaskCoach can handle that sort of thing... it's just not called a bug tracker.
03:02:18 <computerfreaker> neat! *Fires up Task Coach*
03:02:52 <ChrisMorgan> If you use Google Code, there's http://code.google.com/p/[project name]/issues which is a good tracker
03:03:00 <ChrisMorgan> Simple but good.
03:03:11 <ChrisMorgan> Portable with Firefox or Chrome Portable ;-)
03:03:36 <computerfreaker> Well, the critical thing here is "desktop" - I'm offline 99% of the time
03:03:53 <JohnTHaller> yeah good call. you can do tags and categories for apps, WONTFIX, etc
03:04:01 <JohnTHaller> in task coach i mean
03:04:18 <ChrisMorgan> Chazz: I know of one specifically that, a fairly poor demo (WinBinder's fault, not its own) included with WinBinder (PHP Windows GUI thingy)...
03:04:23 <computerfreaker> cool!! I actually haven't used Task Coach much, time to get started in a hurry
03:04:37 <Chazz> ah
03:05:18 <ChrisMorgan> I use Gmail with its offline support in Firefox or Chrome (I created a junction on my disk so that they share the same data even though they look for it in different locations :D ) and it works well. Unfortunately Google Code has no such mode yet.
03:05:51 <computerfreaker> Don't even have GMail... time to ask Dad & Mom, maybe
03:06:24 <computerfreaker> (btw, just checked SourceForge's registration page - you have to be > 18 or have your parents' permission to register)
03:06:37 <ChrisMorgan> Fascinating
03:06:40 <computerfreaker> Fortunately one of my friends has their own site, maybe they'd host some apps for me
03:08:29 <computerfreaker> @John, you mentioned "you can do tags and categories for apps"; found categories, but where are tags? Nothing in the TC Help file either... :S
03:10:25 <ZachThibeau> night everyone
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03:10:39 <ChrisMorgan> night ZachT|ZzZz
03:10:47 <Chazz> night za
03:10:51 <Chazz> * ZachT|ZzZz
03:11:07 <ChrisMorgan> ZachTabeau :P
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03:14:15 <computerfreaker> g2g, schoolwork to do ;)
03:14:17 <computerfreaker> bye!
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03:30:39 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 and GEdit Portable! (And Gnumeric Portable) :D
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03:45:53 <pa_2990> Hi
03:46:02 <pa_2990> I have a small question/problem, can anyone help?
03:46:30 <Gizmokid2005> ask away pa_2990
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03:47:12 <pa_2990> Thanks! :) I have a new PortableApps installation. Everything works fine, except Google Chrome. It worked fine on another machine, but on THIS machine, it just does nothing when I click it.
03:47:19 <pa_2990> All other portableapps work fine
03:47:54 <xangua> there is also opera portable if you want a light browser :) pa_2990
03:48:19 <pa_2990> Thanks, I will try Opera if I can't get Chrome to work, but I would prefer Chrome if possible
03:53:29 <pa_2990> Gotta go - I'll come back later and ask again. Thanks!
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03:59:43 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Hey TimClark :-)
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04:00:18 <Chazz> wb ChrisMorgan?
04:00:24 <Chazz> Hey TimClark :)
04:00:31 <ChrisMorgan> Closed the channel by accident
04:00:34 <Chazz> ah
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04:36:54 <Scriptdaemon> You know, Wireshark has its own PA.c download. Why isn't it also listed on PA.c?
04:38:38 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm, didn't know that
04:39:03 <ChrisMorgan> They have a - instead of a _ separating name and version... wonder why
04:39:54 <Chazz> ChrisMorgan, cause they were too lazy to hit the shift key? :P
04:40:20 <ChrisMorgan> Chazz: the only thing I can think of is that they didn't use the PortableApps.com Installer.
04:40:24 <ChrisMorgan> Just renamed it.
04:40:27 <Chazz> yeah, probably.
04:42:08 <Scriptdaemon> I don't know if John was aware of it, but maybe someone can talk to them about it and get it official here.
04:43:28 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... its own icon, standard NSIS welcome page image, PortableApps.com+slogan but as TM rather than (R)
04:45:18 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: fivestar is installed and wil be used soon
04:45:28 <ChrisMorgan> Very old package.
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04:45:43 <ChrisMorgan> Somewhat custom installer, Other\WiresharkPortableSource
04:45:55 <JohnTHaller> Wireshark just fixed some AppInfo issues in the 1.2.3 release (which I reported). They're still using a very outdated installer, but it should hopefully be fixed in the next release.
04:46:14 <ChrisMorgan> Somehow I thought you'd know about it :-)
04:46:16 <JohnTHaller> alright... need sleep... gnight all
04:46:20 <Gizmokid2005> night JohnTHaller
04:46:22 <ChrisMorgan> g'nite JohnTHaller
04:46:25 <Chazz> night jo
04:46:28 <Chazz> * JohnTHaller
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04:48:16 <ChrisMorgan> Yeouch... the U3-ness of that packaging is horrible.
04:48:54 <ChrisMorgan> And it doesn't fix the VC9.0 manifest... instead they just check if it's installed, and if not then they install and then uninstall it at the end :/
04:49:01 <Bensawsome> evil u3 =_=
04:49:04 <Bensawsome> lol
04:50:57 <ChrisMorgan> My judgement is that it's not ready for official release with us.
04:55:01 <ChrisMorgan> What's more if this code is what's compiled, its installation of PCap and MSVCR90 won't work at all.
04:55:21 <ChrisMorgan> Unless you copy the INI file from Other\WiresharkPortableSource
04:56:25 <Scriptdaemon> Seems since John knows about their version, he'll get them to fix it up.
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04:58:25 <ChrisMorgan> http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/trunk/packaging/portableapps/win32/
04:59:01 <pa_5529> Re: LBreakout2 - Can't complete Level 16 - Bug? - Wall surrounds all objects
04:59:18 <ChrisMorgan> pa_5529: yes?
04:59:42 <pa_5529> Re: LBreakout2 - Can't complete Level 16 - Bug? - Wall surrounds all objects
04:59:54 <ChrisMorgan> pa_5529: what are you trying to say?
05:00:47 <pa_5529> Game contains 25 levels. Gets stuck at 16.
05:01:06 <ChrisMorgan> You'll need to talk to the LBreakout2 developers about that.
05:01:31 <pa_5529> ok. Thanks.
05:01:49 <ChrisMorgan> But I know I managed to finish all the main level set. Make sure you bounce the ball everywhere.
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07:16:31 <taneth111> its empty in here >.>
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07:31:43 <ChrisMorgan> taneth111: no 'taint
07:33:04 <taneth111> meh
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08:38:08 <ChrisMorgan> Well, the bits are shooting up the pipe for Data Crow 3.6 Development Test 1...
08:38:12 <ChrisMorgan> 10MB larger than the 3.4 line
08:38:25 <ChrisMorgan> And it would have been another 10MB larger if I'd included the webapp stuff...
10:04:20 <taneth111> ...and the site is down... again.
10:04:22 <ChrisMorgan> ARGH! PortableApps.com is broke again :-(
10:04:35 <ChrisMorgan> Fine five minutes ago, down now.
10:04:55 <taneth111> back up :D
10:05:12 <ChrisMorgan> taneth111: John said that the DB wasn't corrupted yesterday, just when they were starting it back up they forgot to check it was actually working fully...
10:05:25 <taneth111> hmm.
10:30:08 <taneth111> oh well. I'm pretty tired from a whitewater rafting trip, so I think i'll go to bed. good luck on your exams, ChrisMorgan
10:30:34 <ChrisMorgan> g'nite taneth111
10:32:01 <ChrisMorgan> I've got English and Specialist Mathematics out of the way, Mathematical Methods Written Examination 1 tomorrow.
10:32:49 <taneth111> yeah, a couple of my friends doing specialist said that they were pretty relieved that it was over. g'night
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11:23:30 <ChrisMorgan> Goodnight... *sigh* mailing list blacklist problems, latest version of Norton Internet Security apparently crashing BPBible, ... I'm off to bed.
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17:43:42 <purple> hi :)
17:44:02 <purple> does anyone know hot to slit window in Notepad++?
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17:47:27 <purple> nvm, i found the answer :)
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18:27:57 <kai_62656> O.O
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18:34:02 <Duuude> Hi I was here yesterday
18:34:48 <Duuude> Anyone remember?
18:35:13 <kai_62656> hi Duuude
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18:36:18 <Duuude> I was here asking about 32 bit and 64 bit
18:37:02 <vatts> hi, can i ask you something :O where can i download PortablePython without WX crap or such thing so it'd fit on 128mb drive? :( i had that version before... it was just 90MB :(
18:37:21 <vatts> brb tho :(
18:39:26 <Duuude> I have Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz can I install software that say 32 bit or 64 bit t.ex software_32bit or software_64bit?
18:39:45 <Gizmokid2005> Duuude: it doesn't matter what CPU you have
18:39:49 <Gizmokid2005> it matters what OS you have.
18:40:02 <Gizmokid2005> you can NOT run 64-bit applications on a 32-bit OS.
18:40:06 <Gizmokid2005> ever.
18:40:54 <Duuude> Not 64 bit. I was asking can i use 32 bit software
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18:41:18 <pa_8077> hi
18:41:20 <Bensawsome> 32 bit software usually works fine on a 64 bit os
18:41:21 <Gizmokid2005> you can run 32-bit software on /any/ OS
18:41:28 <pa_8077> I found a possible virus in one of the portable apps
18:41:31 <Gizmokid2005> Duuude: all 64-bit systems will support 32-bit software
18:41:32 <Bensawsome> hi pa_8077 need anything?
18:41:36 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8077: moment
18:41:38 <Bensawsome> noper its a false positive pa_8077
18:41:47 <Bensawsome> if it was downloaded from us alteast
18:42:05 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8077: http://portableapps.com/support#false_positive
18:42:06 <kai_62656> was it ClamWin?
18:42:09 <pa_8077> in media coder?
18:42:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8077: if you downloaded the app from us, it's a false positive, follow the link that I gave you
18:42:47 <Duuude> I am gonna go now
18:42:51 <Duuude> thanks
18:42:56 <Gizmokid2005> yw Duuude
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18:46:01 <pa_8077> lovely
18:46:38 <pa_8077> don't forget "write erase" / Reload :)
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18:48:34 <GizmoBot> OliverK will get to this later
18:53:05 * vatts waxes himself
18:54:11 <vatts> so basically, there is no pyportable (not from P.A.com) history...? i cant get anywhere poor old history? :(
18:54:28 <OliverK> history or what?
18:56:10 <vatts> neeeh
18:56:16 <vatts> i had old py portable
18:56:19 <vatts> which used 90megs
18:56:23 <OliverK> python portable?
18:56:38 <vatts> now this here has tons of features i cant erase and it uses 130 megs, i have 128meg usb stick :(
18:56:40 <vatts> ye
18:56:47 <vatts> http://www.portablepython.com/
18:56:49 <vatts> this one
18:56:52 <OliverK> ah
18:56:57 <OliverK> there's one a pa.com
18:57:00 <vatts> (pyportable or portablepy i think it's all the same, sry)
18:57:03 <OliverK> search in the forums
18:57:13 <vatts> but it's still in develope? :)
18:57:18 <vatts> http://portableapps.com/node/15756
18:57:18 <vatts> :D
18:57:21 <OliverK> it works though
18:57:55 <vatts> aaaah, 50 megs, kinda NICE ;
18:57:57 <vatts> ;)*
18:58:09 <OliverK> yeah
18:58:23 <OliverK> i think the pyportable from the portablepython site include scite and a few other things
18:58:31 <vatts> ^^<vatts> now this here has tons of features i cant erase and it uses 130 megs, i have 128meg usb stick :(
18:58:36 <OliverK> nice, but if you don't have the space
18:58:38 <OliverK> yeah
18:58:40 <vatts> "tons of features" - read as "tons of other things"
18:58:41 <vatts> ;)
18:58:46 <vatts> i like PA.COM
18:58:49 <vatts> i have 4 gb key
18:58:54 <OliverK> i'm glad
18:58:57 <vatts> full of every single portable app :D
18:58:58 <vatts> hehe ;)
18:59:07 <vatts> every single portable app comes in handy
18:59:30 <vatts> excempt in my secondary school where you cant even run hyperlink from word, what about running .exe or removing safely your usb stick, :S:S:S!
19:00:31 <kai_62656> really??
19:00:38 <vatts> ye
19:00:47 <vatts> *** damn domained xp with privilegies on
19:01:06 <vatts> CTRL alt del doesn't work, you have only language settings in controll panell, etc etc etc... xD
19:01:08 <vatts> i mean
19:01:14 <kai_62656> O.O
19:01:17 <vatts> i can still override all of this things
19:01:17 <vatts> !
19:01:27 <vatts> i just unplug lan cable before startup ;)
19:01:32 <vatts> but then i have no inet :O
19:01:35 *** xangua has parted #portableapps ("http://is.gd/3HjzP no se si reírme o sentir lástima")
19:01:36 <vatts> and he'd know smth is going on
19:01:45 <vatts> since he has lan controller - he can see every single comp!
19:02:01 <vatts> even for word files i must open W2k7 first and then open files
19:02:10 <vatts> i cant run win2k7 w/ doubleclick on files on usb stick
19:02:12 <vatts> damn xp ;)
19:02:23 <kai_62656> I use wondows xp here :P
19:02:39 * vatts will someday find bios passwd and enable liveusb or livecd boot and bring ubuntu cd / slitaz usb ;)
19:02:41 <vatts> :O
19:02:57 <vatts> i use xp pro sp2 here ^
19:03:01 <FalsePositive_RT> Someone just ask me what timer t302 is, and I got it right, time to find a new job.
19:03:11 <vatts> eh? :o
19:03:14 <kai_62656> I use Win XP home SP3
19:03:15 <vatts> FalsePositive_RT, o_O
19:03:20 <vatts> kai_62656, where you got SP3 :o
19:03:23 <vatts> what it looks like? :o
19:03:25 <kai_62656> huh?
19:03:29 <NiveusLuna> I'm stuck with POC. aka vista.
19:03:42 <OliverK> sp3 looks the sp2
19:03:48 <kai_62656> search microsoft
19:03:51 <OliverK> oh, blista, I mean vista
19:03:52 <kai_62656> yeah... not much diff
19:03:58 <OliverK> windows update
19:04:01 <FalsePositive_RT> Vista is not crap, it is an experiment in social engineering to see how low you can set the bar and still charge for a product.
19:04:12 <kai_62656> how about Win 7?
19:04:13 <vatts> NiveusLuna, poc? :o
19:04:19 <NiveusLuna> "piece of crap"
19:04:30 <NiveusLuna> FalsePositive_RT: so it's crap with a purpose. it's still crap.
19:04:32 <vatts> win7
19:04:35 <vatts> is product
19:04:38 <vatts> which runs on
19:04:51 <vatts> 20gb hdd, 2ghz proc and 3div with 4 gigs of ram and graph w/ 512mb ram
19:04:53 <vatts> same speed as
19:05:17 <FalsePositive_RT> the only thing that has me interested in windows 7 is the 64 bit version for more than 4 gigs of ram
19:05:19 <vatts> vista, core2duo 2*2.26ghz proc, 4gb ram, 250gb hdd (partitioned) with ati HD 3650 (512mb ram)
19:05:21 <vatts> so basically
19:05:31 <vatts> win7 is light as XP and has aero like vista ;)
19:05:44 <kai_62656> it looks almost the same as vista though
19:05:45 <FalsePositive_RT> but 64 bit and is like gigabit ethernet, seems like it should be taking off faster than it is.
19:05:49 <NiveusLuna> FalsePositive_RT: use linux with PAE-compatible processors
19:05:50 <FalsePositive_RT> -and
19:05:51 <kai_62656> from a quick look
19:06:10 <FalsePositive_RT> NiveusLuna, Linux can't play games
19:06:15 <NiveusLuna> virtual machine
19:06:16 <NiveusLuna> wine
19:06:19 <FalsePositive_RT> and yes I know it can, but...
19:06:31 <NiveusLuna> the ones i care about are either browser-based or multiplatform
19:06:32 <FalsePositive_RT> I tried win and vmware and it worked to an extend, but was slow
19:06:36 <FalsePositive_RT> *wine
19:06:58 <OliverK> FalsePositive_RT: gigbit is supported on xp
19:07:04 <ZachThibeau> there are some good games for linux, like nexuiz which is a pretty fast paced quake like game
19:07:15 <NiveusLuna> i like wesnoth
19:07:20 <FalsePositive_RT> yeah I know, just seems like when you search for gigabit switches the price is still on the high side.
19:07:25 <OliverK> daul boot ftw
19:07:28 <OliverK> not really
19:07:36 <NiveusLuna> qft
19:07:39 <OliverK> gizmo showed me one that ws like 30 bucks
19:07:40 <NiveusLuna> @oliverk
19:07:42 <FalsePositive_RT> and I do love linux and use it for samba / server stuff. It also kicks on network tools
19:07:51 <OliverK> NiveusLuna: what?
19:07:56 <NiveusLuna> quoted for truth
19:08:12 <FalsePositive_RT> my windows machine is really just for games
19:08:55 <kai_62656> lol
19:09:48 <vatts> dualboot not rly fttw
19:09:54 <vatts> dual separated hdds fttw!
19:10:05 <OliverK> vatts: laptop?
19:10:12 <vatts> OliverK, not :O desktop
19:10:14 <Bensawsome> dual boot on macs ftw :P
19:10:15 <OliverK> otherwise, yeah daul harddrives definately rocks
19:10:18 <Bensawsome> nice and easy ^_^
19:10:22 * NiveusLuna uses a laptop and dualboots between linux and windows.
19:10:23 <vatts> <vatts> 20gb hdd, 2ghz proc and 3div with 4 gigs of ram and graph w/ 512mb ram <<<<< desktop
19:10:30 <vatts> <vatts> vista, core2duo 2*2.26ghz proc, 4gb ram, 250gb hdd (partitioned) with ati HD 3650 (512mb ram) <<<<laptop
19:10:32 <vatts> Bensawsome!!!!
19:10:37 <vatts> you little ****
19:10:37 <OliverK> Bensawsome: nothing with mac is nice and easy
19:10:38 <vatts> :D
19:10:40 <OliverK> :D
19:10:43 <Bensawsome> OMG vatts! wats up?!
19:10:49 <vatts> YE!
19:10:52 <vatts> WATTSUP Bensawsome
19:10:57 <Bensawsome> what ya been doing :D
19:10:58 * OliverK runs a 3.06 ghz and 512 of RAM as a desktop
19:11:08 <vatts> OliverK, not on socket a >_>
19:11:13 <vatts> amd athlon 2600+!
19:11:25 <vatts> Bensawsome, goin' into secondary, wtf were YOU doing!?
19:11:26 * Bensawsome 's laptop is better then all his desktops combined -_-
19:11:28 <OliverK> my laptop is a AMD Turion 2.0ghz Dual Core
19:11:30 <kai_62656> xD
19:11:33 <OliverK> and 3 gbs of RAM
19:11:34 <Bensawsome> lol im on college :P
19:11:41 <Bensawsome> in rather
19:11:47 <Bensawsome> and maybe we should take this to -ot
19:11:55 <Bensawsome> vatts /join #PortableApps-OT
19:12:33 * NiveusLuna has a laptop, dual-core 1.9 GHz, 2 GB RAM, vista and fedora 11. desktop, dual 233 MHz PII, 320 MB RAM, debian testing.
19:12:52 <OliverK> laptop is mepis\windows blista
19:13:04 <Bensawsome> lol
19:13:12 <OliverK> plus BT3
19:13:18 <OliverK> when I put the SD Card in :D
19:13:19 <Bensawsome> there are my laptops specs: http://bensawsome.com/random/mbpspecs.html
19:13:30 <NiveusLuna> maybe the convo should be moved? :P
19:13:53 <OliverK> yeah, if we're all their
19:13:55 <OliverK> there*
19:14:05 <NiveusLuna> i am
19:17:26 <vatts> BT3? do i hear right? :D
19:17:34 <OliverK> yesh
19:17:38 <OliverK> persistant no less
19:17:51 <vatts> as silent as you are, more can you hear...? :D:D:D
19:18:01 <vatts> OliverK, ^^?
19:18:05 <OliverK> um
19:18:12 <OliverK> may the sauce be with you
19:18:17 <vatts> BackTrack 3!!!
19:18:19 <vatts> or not? :o
19:18:26 <OliverK> i took me forever to figure out how to connect to a access point
19:18:29 <vatts> xD
19:18:32 <OliverK> yeah
19:18:35 <OliverK> i'm kinda lame
19:18:58 <vatts> it took me 3 hours of browsing on web and 4 channels on irc ;)
19:19:05 <vatts> wireless on ubuntu ftw :p
19:19:47 <OliverK> meh
19:19:52 <OliverK> i connected right off
19:20:00 <OliverK> i just had to figure out how to
19:20:04 <vatts> xD
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19:55:20 <vatts> .def
19:55:21 <GizmoBot> vatts is from Portableapps.com forums, likes linux much more than anyone else on planet Earth, has no site yet and has 4gbs of portableapps software. he programs now from 128mb USB key which has PythonPortable 2.6 installed.
19:55:22 <vatts> :)
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20:24:39 <Casmo_> Hi all :)
20:25:17 <Casmo_> Does anyone know if I can hide the maps "PortableApps" and "Documents"?
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20:25:59 <Casmo_> help!
20:26:00 <GizmoBot> Casmo_: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
20:26:07 <MaienM> Casmo_: you mean hiding them from your drive? Just hiding them as any other folder should work
20:26:26 <MaienM> right click -> properties -> check 'hidden' -> save
20:26:27 <Casmo_> Yeah, normally I'd do Properties -> Hidden, but that tick-box is disabled
20:26:34 <MaienM> it is?
20:26:34 <MaienM> hmm
20:26:37 <Casmo_> It is. :)
20:27:49 <Casmo_> So, any other suggestions? O.o
20:28:17 <MaienM> I'm searching atm
20:28:28 <Casmo_> Okay :)
20:34:17 <MaienM> Casmo_: I'm sorry but I can't find anything on this subject, I suggest asking in the forums.
20:36:47 <Casmo_> Ah okay, thanks for your help though. [=
20:38:32 <Casmo_> Goodbye ^^
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