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01:48:20 <agdurrette> hi
01:49:48 <agdurrette> help!
01:49:48 <GizmoBot> agdurrette: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
01:49:56 <Chazz> With?
01:51:14 <ZachThibeau> hey agdurrette welcome to the irc channel
01:51:33 <ZachThibeau> let me guess, you're here for help with a launcher for blaze right?
01:51:43 <agdurrette> i would like a developer to look at my app to see if it applies with PortableApps.com Format Specification
01:53:47 <agdurrette> Here is the app http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1882171/BlazePortable_0.1_English.paf.exe . I can get a zip of what i have if you want
01:58:56 <ZachThibeau> well I'm busy atm with a few projects of my own but maybe Chris or Gizmo can take a look at it
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01:59:47 <agdurrette> ok
02:00:07 <agdurrette> how do I get the splash screen to work?
02:01:09 <agdurrette> I have DisableSplashScreen=false in the BlazePortable.ini in the source fil
02:01:15 <agdurrette> file*
02:01:30 <ChrisMorgan> I was away just then... and I'm about to be away again
02:02:12 <ChrisMorgan> agdurrette: the version number should match the Blaze version
02:02:19 <ChrisMorgan> And it should be Development Test 1
02:02:25 <ChrisMorgan> And it should be then in Beta Testing
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02:04:20 <agdurrette> beta is for apps that are fully working, right?
02:04:32 <ChrisMorgan> We don't use such labels.
02:04:42 <ChrisMorgan> Development Tests are what we have
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02:07:10 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Lunch now
02:08:59 <agdurrette> blaze version number is 0.5.2 and its in beta, so I would have 0.5.2.1 and 0.5.2 Development Test 1, right?
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02:21:20 <ChrisMorgan> No, Beta is just a label with that.
02:21:21 <ChrisMorgan> 0.5.2.0
02:22:27 <agdurrette> [Version] PackageVersion=0.5.2.0 DisplayVersion=0.5.2 Development Test 1
02:23:53 <agdurrette> I can put it in the beta testing
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02:25:26 <agdurrette> sory I got disconnected:(
02:25:36 <agdurrette> what did you say?
02:29:36 <ChrisMorgan> I didn't say anything. What you said was correct. Then just move your thread to the Beta Testing forum.
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02:32:57 <agdurrette> thanks for the help :)
02:33:10 <ChrisMorgan> What does your launcher do?
02:36:00 <agdurrette> it realy does nothing other than start the program I used a "portable" zipped version.
02:36:20 <ChrisMorgan> Where does it store its data?
02:36:29 <agdurrette> im thinking about changing it to use the non portable version and making it look nicer
02:36:45 <ChrisMorgan> Why?
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02:37:35 <agdurrette> BlazePortable\App\Blaze\User is where i think the date is stored
02:38:16 <agdurrette> stored*
02:38:20 <ChrisMorgan> In which case, you should move it back and forwards from Data\settings to App\Blaze\User
02:38:44 <ChrisMorgan> Or see if there's some configuration file it uses where you can change the location
02:39:56 <ChrisMorgan> Incidentally you may be interested to see 0.5.2.3
02:39:59 <ChrisMorgan> http://sourceforge.net/projects/blaze-wins/
02:40:03 <agdurrette> something like what is in utorent portable
02:40:06 <agdurrette> ; IfFileExists "$EXEDIR\App\DefaultData\settings\settings.dat" 0 DefaultSettingsError ; CopyFiles /SILENT "$EXEDIR\App\DefaultData\settings\settings.dat" "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY"
02:40:29 <ChrisMorgan> Don't ask me quite why that's not the version on their site but it looks like they just haven't updated it
02:40:44 <ChrisMorgan> http://sourceforge.net/projects/blaze-wins/files/ that is
02:42:08 <agdurrette> im glad you noticed that :) thats the one im using
02:42:27 <ChrisMorgan> Then 0.5.2.3 and 0.5.2.3 Development Test 1
02:43:29 <ChrisMorgan> Be aware though that due to the dependance on .NET Framework 3.5 this has no chance of becoming official in the forseeable future.
02:43:38 <ChrisMorgan> It just won't work on far too many computers.
02:43:53 <agdurrette> should I use the portable version or the install one?
02:44:06 <ChrisMorgan> The portable version I would expect
02:44:18 <agdurrette> ya because it is .net :(
02:44:27 <ChrisMorgan> 3.5 what's more
02:44:32 <ChrisMorgan> 2.0 is somewhat better
02:44:37 <ChrisMorgan> It's had on more machines
02:45:21 <agdurrette> iim kinda sad it wont be add in the list :(
02:45:36 <ChrisMorgan> If you get a non-.NET application it has a chance
02:46:19 <ChrisMorgan> I'm just trying to spot in their SVN repository where the portable stuff is, I'm presuming it's a custom build
02:46:27 <agdurrette> i wish we could get mono going
02:46:49 <ChrisMorgan> Mono can't cope with .NET 3.5 applications
02:46:57 <ChrisMorgan> And it can't cope with most .NET 2.0 applications.
02:48:36 <ChrisMorgan> agdurrette: please just move the thread and delete that new one you just created.
02:48:48 <ChrisMorgan> It's much simpler and maintainable if you don't go creating new ones all the time.
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02:49:17 <agdurrette> how do I delete it?
02:49:24 <ChrisMorgan> Edit -> Delete
02:50:15 <agdurrette> o...ok :)
02:52:17 <agdurrette> should I put the default setting in DefaultData\settings
02:52:30 <ChrisMorgan> App\DefaultData\settings
02:52:42 <ChrisMorgan> If there's any need for such settings
02:56:17 <agdurrette> ok now what do i need to do for a license
02:56:25 <ChrisMorgan> All true
02:57:17 <agdurrette> if i want the launcher to be gpl what do i do
02:57:28 <ChrisMorgan> It is.
02:58:50 <agdurrette> thanks for the help
02:59:12 <ChrisMorgan> You're welcome
03:00:05 <agdurrette> if you think of any thing els or if you have constructive critisim
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03:00:30 <agdurrette> criticism*
03:00:38 <agdurrette> let me know
03:00:54 <ChrisMorgan> I shall :-)
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03:04:08 <Guest19924> aww..
03:04:15 <Guest19924> WTF?
03:04:21 <Guest19924> HOw did my nick get like this O_O
03:04:35 <ChrisMorgan> You haven't authed
03:04:57 <ChrisMorgan> You need to /ns identify gluxon [password]
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03:06:47 <gluxon> ChrisMorgan: Yeah, I was.
03:07:03 <gluxon> Probably a small netsplit. :(
03:07:12 <ChrisMorgan> You weren't identified.
03:07:45 <gluxon> Yeah, I WAS. :P
03:08:04 <ChrisMorgan> According to Freenode's network itself, you were not.
03:08:13 <gluxon> :/
03:08:15 <gluxon> WAS.
03:08:30 <gluxon> At around 4 I came in.
03:08:38 <gluxon> But at around 6, this happened :/
03:08:39 <gluxon> (6:15:55 PM) You are now known as gluxon
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03:30:05 <gluxon> ChrisMorgan: Ready to settle SVN once and for all? :P
03:30:21 <ChrisMorgan> Not quite yet, I'm working with the Installer at the moment
03:30:28 <gluxon> :'(
03:30:50 <gluxon> What installer?
03:30:59 <ChrisMorgan> THE Installer.
03:35:25 <gluxon> What's there to work on? :P
03:35:38 <ChrisMorgan> Quite a bit, actually.
03:35:59 <ChrisMorgan> I found one minor bug while working with it... Ukrainian could never be selected as once it was mistyped as Ukranian
03:36:42 <gluxon> Go Chris :)
03:37:55 <ChrisMorgan> I found while converting all the three-five line language chunks into single liners, thanks to regular expression backreferences
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03:57:02 <gluxon> There should be a quit button on the Eclipse Splash :/
03:59:36 <ChrisMorgan> Why?
04:00:28 <gluxon> IDK, cause I open it so much for testing, then I have to close it, but it takes like... 3 minutes to start...
04:00:40 <gluxon> And if I kill eclipse.exe, it corrupts my workspace :(
04:00:41 <ChrisMorgan> Run it from a fast disk then.
04:00:49 <gluxon> ...
04:00:52 <gluxon> I'm too lazy :P
04:01:06 <gluxon> Now to test if MinGW works.
04:01:07 <gluxon> :)
04:03:06 <gluxon> O.M.G!!!
04:03:07 <gluxon> YES!
04:03:23 <gluxon> MINGW PORTABLE WORKS WITH ECLIPSE PORTABLE!!! FINALLY!!!
04:05:58 <gluxon> I have to go.
04:06:00 <gluxon> bye :)
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05:44:04 <ihave> hello anybody
05:44:26 <ChrisMorgan> Hello ihave! Can we help you with anything?
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05:45:23 <ihave> hi chrismorgan, yes, i'm having problem with nsis registry
05:45:35 <ChrisMorgan> What do you mean by that?
05:45:40 <ChrisMorgan> The NSIS registry plugin?
05:45:56 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look at 7-Zip for an example of handling the registry.
05:46:35 <ihave> does nsis support registry with {} or $ in them?
05:46:47 <ChrisMorgan> What do you mean?
05:48:51 <ihave> something like this HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{A86C8053-587B-4DFB-A5E2-54E9803E4463}
05:48:54 <ihave> or
05:49:05 <ChrisMorgan> Ah, OK.
05:49:12 <ChrisMorgan> Curly braces won't be a problem
05:49:21 <ChrisMorgan> For $, escape it as $$
05:50:11 <ihave> i just need two $ signs?
05:50:16 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
05:50:25 <ihave> i see
05:50:37 <ihave> how about in local and portable dir?
05:50:39 <ChrisMorgan> So HKLM\$100 ==> "HKLM\$$100" in NSIS
05:50:45 <ChrisMorgan> Local and portable dir?
05:51:03 <ihave> something like this $WINDIR\Installer\$PatchCache$\Managed\B22F903CDE91766459C012884A2BE643\2.1.6087
05:51:34 <ChrisMorgan> That would become $WINDIR\Installer\$$PatchCache$$\Managed\... in NSIS code
05:51:39 <ChrisMorgan> But why are you touching these regions?
05:52:02 <ChrisMorgan> It doesn't seem to me that you'll be able to get proper portability with any MSI stuff
05:52:18 <ChrisMorgan> And the classes are better avoided if possible...
05:52:50 <ihave> i didnt quite get you
05:52:51 <ihave> sorry
05:53:05 <ChrisMorgan> What is it that's in $WINDIR\Installer?
05:53:06 <ihave> im trying to make this software portable
05:53:12 <ChrisMorgan> What is the software?
05:53:19 <ihave> google sketchup
05:53:31 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm...
05:53:39 <ihave> well i tried twice already making it portable
05:53:49 <ihave> but when i move to another computer
05:53:50 <ChrisMorgan> Should be possible, but I wouldn't expect that you'd need to touch the PatchCache at all
05:53:53 <ihave> it doesnt work
05:53:58 <ChrisMorgan> That'll be just the installer
05:54:09 <ihave> i see
05:54:44 <ihave> the program work when i installed in first on the computer then uninstalled it
05:55:53 <ihave> im guessing that it has to do with the registry
05:56:08 <ChrisMorgan> I really don't know.
05:56:16 <ChrisMorgan> Could be the registry or settings.
05:57:09 <ihave> i dont know either so im getting every information i can
05:57:16 <ihave> and maybe i can get it to work
05:57:25 <ChrisMorgan> I suggest that you take a look at all the results at http://portableapps.com/search/node/sketchup
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06:00:22 <ihave> thanks for the link
06:04:33 <ihave> @chrismorgan - does virtualpc when you run application there are privileged as administrator?
06:05:38 <ChrisMorgan> VirtualPC runs another copy of Windows (or whatever OS you choose) in it, and thus admin privileges or otherwise are specified inside it.
06:07:03 <ihave> i see, im going to check this maybe its the privileged thing
06:07:20 <ChrisMorgan> HKLM can't be written to by other than admin
06:08:34 <ihave> thanks for the help, i will just try again
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13:20:18 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
13:20:24 <SteveLamerton> Hi ZachThibeau
13:20:35 <ZachThibeau> how's your saturday coming along?
13:21:04 <SteveLamerton> Not so bad, plenty of work to do unfortunatly, hopefully get some time to work on Toucan later though :)
13:22:07 <ZachThibeau> lol I hear you, today I'm going to the homeless shelter giving away food, I'm hoping a friend of mine and I can get playlist controls working on mp3k and also volume control
13:23:40 <ZachThibeau> we already fixed mp3 playback issue with using sdl :)
13:23:54 <ZachThibeau> well to a degree at anyrate
13:24:27 <ZachThibeau> first time it loads it goes fast until you load the file again in which it loads at the proper playback speed
13:28:48 <SteveLamerton> Very odd, I guess you could call it a feature ;)
13:30:05 <ZachThibeau> well we are still trying to fix it, but this is just temp for now since we want to focus on getting the playlist control up and running first
13:31:02 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I know how it goes, I am working on some neat Windows 7 stuff for Toucan as I can't get another bit to work at the moment, I'll go back and probably spot and obvious mistake!
13:31:19 <ZachThibeau> lol I know what you mean
13:34:51 <ZachThibeau> best thing about using sdl is that there is also a video component to it, so I may add a plugin support to mp3k so that I can add video as a plugin and also allow users to add their own plugins (IE Last.fm etc)
13:38:18 <SteveLamerton> That sounds pretty neat :)
13:47:03 <ZachThibeau> yeah I hope I can get it to work.
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14:57:14 <SteveLamerton> Hello Gizmokid2005
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15:47:28 * ZachThibeau pinches himself to make sure he's fully awake
15:49:41 <ZachThibeau> ok I'm awake, I fell asleep and I dreampt like I was still awake only to find out I wasn't xD
15:52:08 <SteveLamerton> You sure you are awake? You could be dreaming this
15:58:00 <ZachThibeau> don't, thats the last thing I need
15:58:03 <ZachThibeau> xD
16:00:41 <Mir> you are dreaming
16:00:51 <Mir> here is a thousand dollars DCC'd
16:02:30 <ZachThibeau> ok when I said don't, usually that means don't lol
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16:14:01 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
16:18:59 <ZachThibeau> btw google released their own programming language
16:19:17 <ZachThibeau> it's like a cross between c++ and python
16:20:34 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: It looks horrible to me ;)
16:20:48 <ZachThibeau> I'm tempted to try it personlly
16:20:51 <ZachThibeau> http://golang.org/
16:21:08 <ZachThibeau> but atm it doesn't support windows
16:21:32 <ZachThibeau> only unix based systems like linux, bsd, osx etc
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17:39:22 <pa_8145> Thought I should report that a Trojan virus came through when I downloaded Infrarecorder from this website. McAfee caught it, I downloaded the file anyway, then McAfee had to quaranteen it.
17:39:59 <ve4jhj> that is likely a "false positive". Try uploadingthe file to virustotal.com
17:40:31 <ve4jhj> and report it to McAfee as a false positive
17:40:46 <pa_8145> Thanks. Signing off
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18:01:38 <TimClark> Hello SteveLamerton
18:06:41 <SteveLamerton> Hello TimClark
18:07:05 <TimClark> Will you be around for a while SteveLamerton ?
18:07:15 <SteveLamerton> Yep, a few hours I should imagine
18:08:36 <TimClark> you have the floor
18:09:07 <SteveLamerton> Ok :)
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18:30:42 <GizmoBot> daBomb69 is the genius that forgot to include Perl in Perl Portable xP
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19:37:06 <daBomb69> wb Gizmokid2005
19:39:36 <Gizmokid2005> lol thanks daBomb69, I've been here...znc just fails
19:39:40 <Gizmokid2005> and they blame it on my client.
19:39:42 <Gizmokid2005> so...yeah
19:39:44 <daBomb69> lol, ooh
19:40:16 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005, what /is/ your client? :P
19:40:23 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, the CTCP is blocked :P
19:40:25 <Gizmokid2005> KVIrc of course
19:40:35 <daBomb69> ah, lol
19:42:53 <Ben|Adium> ohai Gizmokid2005
19:42:55 <Ben|Adium> how ru today
19:43:00 <Gizmokid2005> hello Ben|Adium
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19:48:22 <gluxon> Yay, I finally have a dime at domainlagoon :)
19:48:32 <daBomb69> nice?
19:50:04 <gluxon> lol :D
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20:13:58 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 and GEdit Portable! (And Gnumeric Portable) :D
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20:19:54 <SteveLamerton> A couple of Toucan 3 screenshots: http://portableapps.com/node/21581
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20:33:41 <Scriptdaemon> SteveLamerton, very nice.
20:33:51 <SteveLamerton> :D
20:34:48 <SteveLamerton> The language in the script window is Lua, the other one is in taskbar progress in Windows 7
20:38:50 <Chazz> SteveLamerton, burn to a CD?
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20:38:58 <Chazz> To simulate a read-only device.
20:39:02 <Chazz> CD-R would work.
20:39:04 <Chazz> wb SergentSiler
20:39:22 <SergentSiler> ty
20:39:27 <Chazz> yw
20:39:34 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, dont have any with me as I am at uni at the moment, I'll just have to wait a few weeks until I go home I guess
20:39:42 <Chazz> Ah.
20:40:10 <Chazz> SteveLamerton, can you install stuff?
20:40:19 <SteveLamerton> Sure, I have my laptop with me
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20:40:35 <Chazz> Install a program to run a CD image?
20:40:47 <Chazz> And just make an ISO
20:41:02 <SteveLamerton> Ooohh, thats a good thought
20:41:09 <Chazz> ^_^
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20:44:39 <David__> HE
20:44:52 <Chazz> Who?
20:45:05 <David__> what ?
20:45:15 <Chazz> You yelled 'HE'
20:45:52 <David__> Oh..
20:46:02 <David__> i need someone help me
20:47:04 <Chazz> Ah, ok.
20:47:09 <Chazz> What do you need help with?
20:47:45 <David__> i want to protable the software "Spybot"
20:47:50 <David__> How i can do it ?
20:48:08 <David__> by my self
20:50:06 <David__> you can help me with that ?
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20:51:52 <Chazz> David__, http://portableapps.com/node/14868
20:54:16 <SteveLamerton> Chazz: That worked great, thanks
20:54:25 <Chazz> Awesome!
20:54:37 <Chazz> Your welcome SteveLamerton, glad I could help! :)
20:55:00 <SteveLamerton> Saves me getting through a huge stack of CDs too ;)
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20:55:12 <Chazz> Nice. ;D
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21:01:24 <David__> Thank you man !!
21:01:34 <David__> i just need to translate it to hebrew..
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21:55:08 <SteveLamerton> Hi again Gizmokid2005
21:55:21 <SteveLamerton> Wow, it is later than I thought, oops
21:55:24 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
21:55:25 <Gizmokid2005> lol
21:55:44 <SteveLamerton> Did you see this? http://portableapps.com/node/21581
21:55:58 <Gizmokid2005> I didn't...
21:56:17 <Gizmokid2005> VERY nice :)
21:56:22 * Gizmokid2005 likey
21:56:25 <Gizmokid2005> and is that win7 I see there?
21:56:49 <SteveLamerton> It certainly is, with win7 in-taskbar progress
21:57:44 <Gizmokid2005> that's one of my favorite win7 features :)
21:57:53 <Gizmokid2005> back in a flash :)
21:57:57 <SteveLamerton> Yes it is really neat
21:58:15 <SteveLamerton> I figured Toucan would benefit greatly from it :D
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22:56:22 <pa_2085> how do I prevent portable apps from renaming my system volume name?
22:56:51 <pa_2085> help
22:56:51 <GizmoBot> pa_2085: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
22:57:13 <pa_2085> how do I prevent portable apps from renaming my system volume name?
22:57:30 <Guest82036> Modify the autorun.ini
22:57:41 <pa_2085> thanks
22:57:55 <Guest82036> np
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23:20:51 <n8chavez> I don't like the update Geek Menu as much
23:22:11 <Guest82036> lolwut
23:22:48 <Guest82036> crap, wrong chan, sorry.
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23:36:36 <gluxon> n8chavez: So, don't use it? O_O
23:38:24 <n8chavez> well duh
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