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03:18:28 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is currently working on a super cool media player called musicplay3000 aka mp3k
03:18:30 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is a PortableApps.com Menu Themer, his theme website is http://silerhost.site50.net
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04:11:35 <gluxon> Hi yall :P
04:12:14 <JohnTHaller> hola
04:13:29 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller, congrads on 1.0 btw!
04:13:58 <gluxon> And on the insttaller :)
04:14:08 <JohnTHaller> thnks
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04:47:51 <gluxon> Hello! =D
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06:43:54 <pa_2955> hello
06:44:28 <pa_2955> I have a question about portableapps
06:44:38 <pa_2955> could you help me?
07:01:27 <Bensawsome> what you need pa_2955?
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08:21:43 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
08:22:13 <ChrisMorgan> ... and he's in Singapore.
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09:41:05 <ChrisMorgan> You guys are active this afternoon!
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10:13:00 <ChrisMorgan> Funny... a speed test here just gave me 489kbps download and 548kbps upload :/
10:14:10 <ChrisMorgan> Doing it again, upload spiked to 800kbps at one point... uploads are actually faster than downloads here.
10:14:28 <upnPAD> differences of about 10% are negligible in speed tests
10:14:43 <upnPAD> *of up to about
10:14:48 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: uploads being anywhere /near/ download speeds is unusual
10:15:05 <upnPAD> not really, just in australia it is
10:15:14 <ChrisMorgan> It's unusual all over the world.
10:15:27 <upnPAD> what about people with 100/100 connections
10:15:31 <ChrisMorgan> Half a megabit per second isn't all that great for wireless (G) either... but it's all free :-)
10:15:41 <ChrisMorgan> That's ethernet. Ethernet and Internet are completely different.
10:16:07 <upnPAD> oh well then it depends on the connection of what you download from right?
10:16:18 <ChrisMorgan> No, it depends on the ISP
10:16:34 <upnPAD> k
10:16:47 <ChrisMorgan> They allocate up and down links so that it generally ends up 1:10-40
10:16:50 <ChrisMorgan> up:down
10:17:16 <ChrisMorgan> If they hadn't had universal power points here, I would have been stuck with using one of their computers and having to sign out and back in every 15 minutes...
10:17:56 <upnPAD> oh woops
10:18:04 <ChrisMorgan> oh woops?
10:18:10 <upnPAD> i thought you meant you got two different readings for your download speed
10:18:18 <ChrisMorgan> No.
10:18:57 <ChrisMorgan> I've been getting a fairly consistent 500-600kbps uplink and a fairly consistent 450-530kbps downlink
10:19:36 <ChrisMorgan> Boy... downloading TortoiseHg is slow :D
10:19:54 <upnPAD> what do you normally get?
10:20:02 <ChrisMorgan> I'm used to downloads normally in excess of 5Mbps at home and am only getting 10% of that
10:20:17 <ChrisMorgan> 10Mbps cable, but most servers don't push it at 10Mbps. 5Mbps is normal.
10:20:43 <ChrisMorgan> 10 minutes to download 16.6MB... :O
10:20:55 <ChrisMorgan> At home that'd be done by now :P
10:23:13 <ChrisMorgan> Things are quiet here and I've got about all I can do don now... I think when I've pulled TortoiseHg I'll head over to Terminal 2
10:24:10 <upnPAD> oh
10:24:13 <upnPAD> you're talking bits ._.
10:24:26 <ChrisMorgan> Of course. That's the unit you measure downloads in.
10:24:27 <upnPAD> yeah 10 mins for 16.6mb is a lot
10:24:50 <ChrisMorgan> Half way there.... only 5 minutes left... :-)
10:24:50 <upnPAD> k well i usually go with bytes since thats what programs tend to display
10:25:30 <ChrisMorgan> Download speeds are generally shown in programs as Kbps or Mbps, though some, DownThemAll! for example, are silly and do KB/sec or MB/sec
10:26:55 <upnPAD> :s all the programs i use: firefox, im clients, etc all display download speeds in bytes like KB or MB etc
10:27:12 <ChrisMorgan> That is abominably wicked.
10:27:19 <ChrisMorgan> Shun them.
10:27:48 <ChrisMorgan> Come to think of it... Chrome is showing kB/s too :-(
10:28:25 <ChrisMorgan> And the figure is not flattering... I don't want to know I'm only getting 28 kB/s :P
10:28:58 <ChrisMorgan> (224 Kbps)
10:29:19 <ChrisMorgan> So correction, at home I'd have it in mebbe a bit over half a minute
10:30:58 <ChrisMorgan> TortoiseHg installed, bye for somewhere between 10 minutes and three months.
10:31:41 <ChrisMorgan> Still got an hour and a half to kill...
10:31:51 <upnPAD> 10 mins and three months
10:32:12 <upnPAD> are you the guy that made the windows estimated time remaining dialog
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14:55:20 <pa_3099> for unistalling program what can I do?
14:55:45 <pa_3099> for unistalling some applications what can I do?
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19:15:17 <gluxon> MaienM! :D
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19:18:36 <pa_2413> Does anyone knows if is possible to change the location of Documents directory on Portableapps menu?
19:20:17 <ZachThibeau> it is not possible as the paths are hard coded into the menu for backup purposes
19:20:47 <pa_2413> ok.. understand.. thanks...
19:22:09 <gluxon> No :(
19:22:19 <gluxon> There will be in future versions :)
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19:37:49 <gluxon> ... Bensawsome isn't here? O_O
19:38:00 <ZachThibeau> he's the Guest1040
19:38:11 <ZachThibeau> his znc must of not identified him in time
19:38:29 <gluxon> oh.
19:38:41 <gluxon> Guest1040: GET UP!!! :P
19:38:47 <gluxon> Fix your dumb ZNC!!! :P
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19:39:27 <ZachThibeau> he's probably in class
19:39:35 <ZachThibeau> he is in college you know :P
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20:24:37 <gluxon> I know :P
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20:25:11 * gluxon is in his 24th year of Kindergarten :(
20:29:30 <sar3th> ??
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20:45:35 <gluxon> Gawd.. I hate upgrading my Eclipse Portable! :(
20:45:41 <sar3th> :(
20:45:45 <gluxon> Look at all this HTML I have to edit!!! :(
20:45:50 <gluxon> Why did I have to use pure html?
20:45:54 <gluxon> :?
20:46:07 <sar3th> where did you use pure html?
20:47:08 <gluxon> http://pastebin.com/f3b38b99c <-- In Eclipse Portable :(
20:47:18 <gluxon> Instead of using spaces, I just HAD to use <br /> :(
20:47:57 <sar3th> aw
20:48:13 <sar3th> try editing it in sublime text portable ;)
20:49:14 <gluxon> ...
20:49:25 <gluxon> Why didn't I ever think of using a syntax highlighter?
20:49:29 <gluxon> :P
20:50:09 <sar3th> that's what sublime does as usual ;)
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21:20:42 <gluxon> RELEASE: Eclipse Portable 3.5.1 Development Test 5 --> http://portableapps.com/node/20219
21:20:49 <gluxon> Ughhgh...
21:21:00 <gluxon> Worked my butt off for that release :P
21:21:08 <gluxon> Now just have to take care of dumb subversion :P
21:21:32 <gluxon> sar3th: BTW, this is the one that integrates into your MinGWPortable :)
21:21:46 <sar3th> nice
21:22:36 <gluxon> Now what was that about Java program never being truly portable? :P
21:22:53 <gluxon> bye. :(
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21:31:48 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
21:31:54 <SteveLamerton> Hi ZachThibeau
21:32:04 <ZachThibeau> whats new?
21:34:08 <SteveLamerton> Not much, working away at a Toucan 3 Dev Test
21:34:31 <ZachThibeau> :O
21:34:48 <ZachThibeau> btw I so can't wait for WxWidgets 2.9.1 :D
21:34:56 <ZachThibeau> thats when the code for the ribbon interface should be ready :)
21:37:10 <SteveLamerton> Yes, and some of my changes are integrated ;)
21:37:17 <ZachThibeau> very nice :)
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21:37:58 <ZachThibeau> when 2.9.1 comes out are you going to try and use the ribbon interface code or just keep it as is with aui etc?
21:38:34 <SteveLamerton> Toucan doesnt have a menu so no need for a ribbon, I am using 2.9.0 for the current builds though ;)
21:39:03 <ZachThibeau> lol oh well :P
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21:41:37 <SteveLamerton> I guess I could add an empty ribbon :P
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21:42:57 <ZachThibeau> well what you could do is put shortcut commands in it
21:45:50 <SteveLamerton> Nah, take up way too much space too, it is a squeeze as it is to fit in 480 vertical pixels :O
21:51:50 <ZachThibeau> lol xD who said it needed to be graphical :P
21:52:17 <ZachThibeau> anyways like I said nm on the idea :P
21:56:08 <SteveLamerton> I am thinking of rewriting the manual again :(
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