IRC Log from 2009-12-08
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00:46:05 <Morrjo84> hey sar3th
00:46:29 <Morrjo84> mind helping me?
00:46:37 <Morrjo84> im still working on lunascape
00:51:47 <Morrjo84> Its giving me errors with UpdateLocations
00:53:24 <Morrjo84> can anyone help?
00:54:34 <Morrjo84> anyone?
00:58:07 <Morrjo84> hello?
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01:00:30 <Morrjo84> hello?
01:08:17 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Morrjo84: post the source for me again
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01:08:42 <Morrjo84> k
01:08:45 <Morrjo84> 1 sec
01:09:46 <Morrjo84> here
01:09:46 <Morrjo84> http://pastebin.com/m78af1e1c
01:11:23 <Gizmokid2005> Ok
01:11:44 <Gizmokid2005> Morrjo84: line 212, you need to remove the ";" before "GetCurrentLanguage" as well as put a ":" directly after the words
01:11:46 <Morrjo84> I know it wants a label to go to if it does not exist, but I am unsure what to do
01:11:51 <Morrjo84> k
01:12:14 <Gizmokid2005> Morrjo84: what you need to do, is either A) make the label, or B) use a label that already exists.
01:12:46 <Morrjo84> what label should I use?
01:12:58 <Gizmokid2005> The one it's complaining about
01:13:01 <Gizmokid2005> UpdateLocations
01:13:06 <Morrjo84> yeah
01:13:15 <Gizmokid2005> that's what you use.
01:13:55 <Gizmokid2005> Morrjo84: you should probably look at a few other launchers that deal with registry to help you organize things
01:14:00 <Morrjo84> k
01:14:02 <Gizmokid2005> SongbirdPortable's launcher is a good one
01:14:08 <Morrjo84> I got that
01:14:23 <Gizmokid2005> look at the way it flows and handles the registry entries.
01:14:29 <Gizmokid2005> and a few others too, because that one is really complex.
01:14:43 <Gizmokid2005> I believe Notepad++ uses them
01:14:50 <Gizmokid2005> as does Firefox and Thunderbird
01:14:51 <Gizmokid2005> I believe
01:17:05 <Morrjo84> Im looking at np++ now
01:17:21 <Morrjo84> Now it's complaining about StoreCurrentDriveLetter
01:17:25 <Morrjo84> >:(
01:17:38 <Morrjo84> found it!
01:19:25 <Morrjo84> YAY
01:19:27 <Morrjo84> it works!
01:19:35 <Gizmokid2005> now make sure it doesn't leave anything behind :)
01:19:40 <Gizmokid2005> and changes drive letters like it should
01:19:43 <Gizmokid2005> and then post to the forums :)
01:19:44 <Morrjo84> * sings halleluiah *
01:20:03 <Morrjo84> thanks
01:20:14 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome Morrjo84
01:20:15 <Morrjo84> I dont know much about NSI code
01:20:19 <Morrjo84> so thanks a million
01:20:29 <Gizmokid2005> not a problem
01:20:36 <Gizmokid2005> the best thing to look for when making launchers
01:20:39 <Gizmokid2005> is at other launchers
01:20:42 <Morrjo84> I know
01:20:44 <Gizmokid2005> and at http://nsis.sf.net/
01:20:46 <Morrjo84> I started with sumatra
01:20:51 <Morrjo84> and tweaked it
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01:21:05 <Morrjo84> it still needs more tweaking obviously
01:21:15 <Morrjo84> but I will be proud when I see it on the dev page
01:21:23 <Morrjo84> and mabe eventually the news!
01:21:24 <Gizmokid2005> :)
01:21:30 <Morrjo84> thanks a million
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01:43:04 <morrjo84> hey giz, new error now
01:43:56 <Gizmokid2005> morrjo84: what?
01:44:33 <morrjo84> one sec, gonna post on pastebin
01:45:41 <morrjo84> its a biggie!
01:45:46 <morrjo84> http://pastebin.com/d41ec85a6
01:45:59 <morrjo84> its an error with the basecode used by portable apps
01:47:15 <Gizmokid2005> byt the installer it looksl ike
01:47:24 <Gizmokid2005> did you create an appinfo.ini?
01:47:27 <morrjo84> yes
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01:47:34 <morrjo84> and it is correct, I believe
01:48:57 <Gizmokid2005> that's the error you get?
01:49:15 <Gizmokid2005> I don't see any errors there.
01:49:26 <morrjo84> ye
01:49:27 <morrjo84> s
01:49:31 <morrjo84> that is the error line
01:49:54 <morrjo84> it says this specifically
01:50:02 <morrjo84> File: failed opening file "..\..\App\Lunascape\UserSetting\2.0\backup\2009_12_05_09_00_43(Backup) [Ver.6.0.0.19815]\applicationdata\settings\BrowserStatusSetting.xml"
01:50:31 <Gizmokid2005> looks like that is your data from the app.
01:50:49 <Gizmokid2005> if it is your data, just delete the whole folder that contains it (looks like UserSetting is the folder) and try again
01:51:00 <morrjo84> k
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14:01:55 <chrisroby1> hmm
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14:39:09 <Nerd42> Hey any C++ programmers in the house? :)
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15:49:08 <vicc_portugal> hi
15:49:57 <ChrisMorgan> Nerd42: why?
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15:53:19 <Nerd42> Ah, I gave up on that for now
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15:53:43 <Nerd42> I was trying to maybe get some tips on how to make libraries work with portable code::blocks and mingw
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15:53:50 <Nerd42> external libraries
15:53:54 <Nerd42> cause i'm a novice c++ programmer
15:53:58 <Nerd42> beginner
15:53:59 * ChrisMorgan has no idea whatsoever
15:54:02 <Nerd42> whatever you wanna call it
15:54:13 <Nerd42> yeah well i decided to just install anyway
15:54:19 <sar3th> sorry Nerd42, i don't know either :(
15:54:22 <vicc_portugal> do u need a c++ compiler?
15:54:27 <Nerd42> i've got one goin
15:54:37 <Nerd42> code::blocks as an IDE, mingw as a compiler
15:54:42 <ChrisMorgan> How's that... the developers of Code::Blocks Portable and MinGW Portable can't help you :D
15:54:48 <sar3th> Nerd42: i think you need to install the libs into mingw's code
15:54:52 <sar3th> erm
15:54:56 <sar3th> you know what i mean
15:54:58 <sar3th> directory
15:55:06 * ChrisMorgan has very little idea with C++ code
15:55:17 <Nerd42> i've got it going as non-portable now
15:55:36 <sar3th> i once knew, but then i started using qt...no other libs needed anymore ;)
15:57:36 <Nerd42> i think i'm gonna give up for now on building this game from source and try again when I'm further along in learning C++ in the classes I'm taking, because I don't know enough to fix this crap when it doesn't work
15:57:46 <vicc_portugal> have you seen QtWeb? fast, free and secure portable web browser, maybe pa.c could package it
15:57:51 <Nerd42> that sux
15:58:00 <vicc_portugal> http://www.qtweb.net/
15:58:02 <vicc_portugal> why?
15:58:07 <Nerd42> vicc, wasn't referring to you :)
15:58:09 <ChrisMorgan> vicc_portugal: have you seen Arora?
15:58:14 <ChrisMorgan> Or Arora Portable?
15:58:41 <sar3th> do you know opera? :P
15:58:52 <sar3th> or even firefox? :P :P
15:58:58 <vicc_portugal> no
15:59:04 <sar3th> sorry for the unqualified comments ;)
15:59:07 <vicc_portugal> i only know IE lol
15:59:10 <ChrisMorgan> Arora is QtWebkit
15:59:14 <ChrisMorgan> QtWeb is QtWebkit
15:59:25 <vicc_portugal> i know
15:59:26 <ChrisMorgan> QtWeb came first, Arora came on top of it, I believe
15:59:42 <vicc_portugal> but any chances of pa.c package it?
15:59:56 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look at Arora Portable
16:00:52 <ChrisMorgan> Looks like QtWeb has progressed since then
16:01:27 <ChrisMorgan> But their website... what would you expect when you click on a screenshot of the program on the front page?
16:01:37 <ChrisMorgan> Not that it would like to the download.
16:02:26 <vicc_portugal> hey, i've seen formatfactory launcher at forums
16:02:52 <vicc_portugal> it says it isn't compatible with formatfactory 2.x
16:03:00 <vicc_portugal> and i'm using 2.15
16:06:12 <sar3th> got to go, see ya later
16:06:18 <vicc_portugal> bye
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16:07:24 <vicc_portugal> do u use portablefreeware?
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16:14:39 <pa_6071> HI
16:15:01 <ChrisMorgan> Hello, pa_6071! Can we help you with anything?
16:15:47 <pa_6071> no, htanks
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16:17:17 <vicc_portugal> hey
16:17:50 <Gizmokid2005> vicc_portugal: you know you can go to http://webchat.freenode.org and join the room from there?
16:17:59 <Gizmokid2005> you can also change your nick before you join the room
16:18:02 <ChrisMorgan> btw vicc_portugal, we don't have htanks, but we do have ATanks
16:18:21 <vicc_portugal> it's thanks
16:18:23 <Gizmokid2005> it would cut down on the questions when you join, and not make you seem like a user looking for help upon join as well
16:18:30 <ChrisMorgan> Different mask from before... why?
16:18:32 <ChrisMorgan> vicc_portugal: :P
16:18:44 <ChrisMorgan> Any idea Gizmokid2005?
16:19:04 <ChrisMorgan> vicc_portugal: also, when QtWeb say "portable", they mean settings-portable rather than PortableApps.com-portable.
16:19:10 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: probably a different PC
16:19:12 <Gizmokid2005> or IP
16:19:16 <ChrisMorgan> Being Qt, it'll leave normal Qt mess in the registry.
16:19:37 <ChrisMorgan> PC shouldn't do it, only IP should change it I think (don't quote me though)
16:19:55 <vicc_portugal> but QtWeb is stealth
16:19:59 <ChrisMorgan> I looked for that first... if it'd been the same mask I wouldn't have bothered greeting you...
16:19:59 <vicc_portugal> isn't it?
16:20:06 <ChrisMorgan> vicc_portugal: it won't be
16:20:07 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: it should, they won't assign the same host to the same IP if it's a different machine.
16:20:09 <ChrisMorgan> It's Qt
16:20:37 <vicc_portugal> i know that i shouldn't say this, but for dev branches of Google Chrome we should make something like this: http://portableappz.blogspot.com/2009/12/google-chrome-4024925-dev-chromium.html and please don't kill me
16:20:48 <ChrisMorgan> EVIL!
16:20:51 <ChrisMorgan> KILL!
16:20:56 <ChrisMorgan> EXTERPATE!
16:21:03 <vicc_portugal> lol
16:21:11 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: Caps is not cruise control for cool.
16:21:55 * ChrisMorgan waits for http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=1469 to load...
16:22:07 <ChrisMorgan> They say stealth... I say that I'll look at the comments.
16:22:08 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: loaded right up for me.
16:22:19 <ChrisMorgan> It finally loaded
16:22:29 <ChrisMorgan> Just a slow connection at their end temporarily or something
16:23:59 <ChrisMorgan> This I want to see if it really is a Qt application that cleans up after itself.
16:24:05 <ChrisMorgan> Quite flatly, I don't believe it.
16:24:30 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: I don't know what your issue with Qt is. KVirc is a Qt app and doesn't touch the registry
16:24:46 <ChrisMorgan> What about the usual Qt registry keys and all?
16:24:52 <Gizmokid2005> nothing about them ChrisMorgan
16:24:59 <Gizmokid2005> they aren't created
16:25:09 <Gizmokid2005> why would they be?
16:25:14 <Gizmokid2005> maybe for a dev environment they will be.
16:25:19 <Gizmokid2005> but not for a normal app
16:25:27 <ChrisMorgan> But all Qt applications do stuff in HKCU\Software\Trolltech...?
16:25:27 <Gizmokid2005> that, or everyone else who uses Qt doesn't know what they are doing.
16:25:31 <Gizmokid2005> No.
16:25:47 <ChrisMorgan> I've never analysed an Qt application which /doesn't/
16:26:25 <Gizmokid2005> Look at KVirc
16:26:41 <Gizmokid2005> if you tell it to use portable (as I've got kvirc portable to use) it won't touch the registry
16:27:23 <ChrisMorgan> There's a colour key which some create (HKCU\Software\Trolltech\OrganizationalDefaults\Qt\customColors), but all that I've ever seen create things in HKCU\Software\Trolltech\OrganizationalDefaults\Qt _____ _____ _._\___.___.__.\X:\PortableApps\...
16:27:31 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm. Wonder what's different then.
16:27:56 <ChrisMorgan> Maybe all that I thought was wrong... looks like we should enquire about what they do, and ask other developers if they can do it too
16:28:10 <Gizmokid2005> You can try it if you'd like with a regshot
16:28:18 <ChrisMorgan> I'll take your word for it
16:28:21 <Gizmokid2005> it's been a while since I did one, and there's been a lot of revisions
16:28:30 <Gizmokid2005> and something may have changed.
16:28:45 <ChrisMorgan> No, the "issue" I'm talking about has always been there with Qt
16:29:06 <ChrisMorgan> I presume there's some special red button you can push to stop it.
16:29:10 <Gizmokid2005> I've got the HKCU\Software\Trolltech\OgranizationDefaults which is full of stuff for Nokia
16:29:13 <ChrisMorgan> Now if only KVIrc would terminate its active connections on sleep/hibernate...
16:29:41 <Gizmokid2005> I'm actually curious now, i'll have to do some fresh regshotting.
16:31:52 <ChrisMorgan> C:\PROGRA~1\VIRTUA~1 (that's gone now, can't remember what it was), C:\Program Files\KDE, C:\Program Files\Subcommander (hey, I'll have to check up on that), C:\Program Files\VirtualBox, PyQt, Calibre, Qt Creator...
16:31:59 <ChrisMorgan> HAH! Found it.
16:32:21 <ChrisMorgan> But then, that's not with any portable switch... so it's OK for my KVIrc to be using the registry... :-(
16:32:23 <ChrisMorgan> :P
16:32:30 <Gizmokid2005> lol
16:32:33 <Gizmokid2005> I'll check it to be safe.
16:33:27 <ChrisMorgan> That was in HKCU\Software\Trolltech\OrganizationalDefaults\Qt Factory Cache 4.5\com.trolltech.Qt.QImageIOHandlerFactoryInterface:\C:\Program Files\KVIrc\qt-plugins\imageformats
16:33:42 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, that's the one I'll have to look for then.
16:34:15 <Gizmokid2005> of course the key will be differen't...but
16:34:31 <ChrisMorgan> It's useless junk that goes in there, just version information about each Qt dll in there. Always safe to delete the ...\OrganizationalDefaults\*\*\$EXEDIR and then prune the tree as empty
16:34:38 <ChrisMorgan> That's the good thing about it really
16:34:58 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
16:35:11 <Gizmokid2005> honestly, there's no reason to even worry about backing it up and restoring it either.
16:35:49 <ChrisMorgan> LightScribe also, and Bazaar and Launchy
16:36:07 <ChrisMorgan> The Qt keys issue with Bazaar is the only reason I haven't released a Development Test of Bazaar Explorer
16:37:30 <ChrisMorgan> The rest of it was a cinch with CPALT (after a bit of source code scrounging to find an environment variable override, they're really quite common in those sorts of applications), but the Qt junk keys are not handled yet (the final Launcher will cope with them with ease... that $EXEDIR stuff simplifies it a lot)
16:37:31 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, it's not a big issue, that'll be easy to take care of if they are there.
16:37:48 <ChrisMorgan> Bart.S has three or four Qt apps with them
16:39:33 <ChrisMorgan> You know, I think I'm going to try Tortoise(SVN|BZR|Hg) Portable once the Launcher's out with the required support for those sorts of things.
16:40:02 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not sure if they'll require admin; they won't work on locked down machines, but I think that even for a limited account they /should/ work.
16:40:12 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
16:40:26 <vicc_portugal> cool, i need a good SVN client, and if it's portable...
16:40:38 <ChrisMorgan> vicc_portugal: any reason why SVN?
16:40:55 <ChrisMorgan> For the moment, you can use my Subcommander Portable, just don't save any passwords if you don't want them left behind
16:40:58 <ChrisMorgan> .def subcommander
16:40:58 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: Sorry, but I don't know about subcommander
16:41:09 <ChrisMorgan> I'm sure I definied that... mebbe it was with pabot
16:41:14 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/15655
16:41:32 <vicc_portugal> i have a little project at Google Code and i want SVn, is the one that i'm using
16:41:45 <ChrisMorgan> vicc_portugal: try out Mercurial
16:42:36 <vicc_portugal> i only want svn now
16:42:37 <ChrisMorgan> Toucan's switched from SVN to Mercurial on SourceForge, the new repositories for the Launcher, Installer, AppCompactor and Platform are hg repositories as well
16:42:43 <vicc_portugal> maybe later i change
16:42:53 <ChrisMorgan> You can switch, but hg > svn
16:43:10 <ChrisMorgan> It's easier if you just start with it... and reap the benefits right from the start :-)
16:43:25 <ChrisMorgan> Inkscape has just moved from SVN to Bazaar (another DVCS)
16:45:40 <vicc_portugal> my project is just a little browser
16:45:58 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: what's the portable switch in KVIrc that makes it not leave Qt's mess behind?
16:46:31 <ChrisMorgan> I think I'll just see if I can take a look around their source code
16:47:08 <ChrisMorgan> The packages indexed at http://www.google.com/codesearch are normally quite out of date, but still very useful for finding config location switches and all.
16:47:19 <ChrisMorgan> http://www.google.com/codesearch is my friend with making portable applications :-)
16:48:02 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: just a file called "portable" in KVirc's directory
16:48:10 <ChrisMorgan> OK
16:48:22 <ChrisMorgan> 3 as well or just 4.0?
16:49:05 <Gizmokid2005> they both use the same switch
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16:50:18 <ChrisMorgan> Step one... find the relevant source code file
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16:59:13 <pa_9486> Hi, Where can I put some suggestions for new apps developing?
16:59:53 <ChrisMorgan> pa_9486: you can mention them here, or in the Request Apps forum
17:00:43 <vicc_portugal> you have to see the license of the software that you want portable
17:01:33 <pa_9486> Can you please drop me a link to request apps forum? And suggestion is to get the application ...
17:01:46 <pa_9486> ??? forgot just now!!! =-))
17:01:48 <pa_9486> =-((
17:02:07 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/forums/general/request_apps
17:02:11 <vicc_portugal> http://portableapps.com/forums/general/request_apps and you can't request portableapps
17:02:14 <pa_9486> OO!!! Virtual mashine engine
17:02:42 <vicc_portugal> you can't request paid apps
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17:03:25 <pa_9486> I'm pretty certain there is on virt mashine which runs free.
17:03:46 <ChrisMorgan> pa_9486: currently we can't do them for technical reasons
17:03:55 <ChrisMorgan> Come back in a few months and you may find one available though
17:05:29 <pa_9486> =) Great anyway - the whole project and the idea... Oh!!! FiNAllY remembered what I want to make portable!! It's the online storage access programm.. =- )
17:05:42 <pa_9486> I'l send you a link in a minute
17:06:06 <pa_9486> http://mozy.com/
17:06:12 <pa_9486> like this one - it's free
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17:06:46 <GizmoBot> daBomb69 is the genius that forgot to include Perl in Perl Portable xP
17:06:58 <pa_9486> I know it's a bit over a head to the butt and back agin =-) but still =-)
17:08:17 <pa_9486> The apps which is accessing an online storage, and sync's it to a certain location.
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17:30:52 <vicc_portugal> hi
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17:41:32 <vicc_portugal> i have a doubt
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17:50:37 <Chazz_> i have a trout
17:52:38 <vicc_portugal> lol
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18:29:33 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is currently working on a super cool media player called musicplay3000 aka mp3k
18:29:35 <ZachThibeau> >_>
18:29:51 <ZachThibeau> netsplit folks nothing to worry about
18:31:17 <vicc_portugal> i have a doubt
18:31:28 <Gizmokid2005> vicc_portugal: about what
18:31:43 <vicc_portugal> about Windows Live Messenger
18:31:51 <Gizmokid2005> what about it?
18:32:22 <vicc_portugal> it is legal if i copy win live to my pen drive (in usa thumb drive)
18:32:22 <vicc_portugal> ?
18:33:07 <Gizmokid2005> Not technically
18:33:11 <Gizmokid2005> not according to the EULA
18:33:25 <Gizmokid2005> besides, the way it runs, nad is integrated, you really can't just copy it and have it work.
18:33:35 <vicc_portugal> ok
18:33:47 <vicc_portugal> what about visual studio?
18:34:02 <Gizmokid2005> same thing
18:34:09 <Gizmokid2005> just about any MS product will be that way
18:34:38 <vicc_portugal> even if i don't odify nor share it?
18:34:56 <Gizmokid2005> you won't be able to make it portable because of the integration
18:35:12 <vicc_portugal> ok
18:35:37 <vicc_portugal> what about my legal license of tuneup 2008?
18:36:08 <Gizmokid2005> I don't know vicc_portugal, depends on how it's integrated
18:36:51 <vicc_portugal> if wou want a full free and legal copy of TU2008, say anything
18:37:53 <Gizmokid2005> vicc_portugal: I'd highl doubt it's legal, as it's $50/license
18:38:00 <vicc_portugal> no
18:38:34 <vicc_portugal> 2 usa's magazines gave keys for tu2008
18:39:28 <vicc_portugal> but it's 2010 on the market
18:40:52 <vicc_portugal> but anyway
18:41:57 <vicc_portugal> do u know which are the next portables gonna be released (sorry about my english, but a portuguese student isnt shakespeare)
18:42:15 <Gizmokid2005> you mean what apps are next?
18:42:51 <vicc_portugal> yes
18:43:10 <vicc_portugal> thank u for understanding my chinese :p
18:43:14 <ZachThibeau> no one really knows when it comes when it comes
18:43:24 <Gizmokid2005> vicc_portugal: nobody knows what is next, or when
18:43:29 <Gizmokid2005> like ZachThibeau said, it's here when it's here.
18:45:48 <vicc_portugal> sorry
18:46:19 <vicc_portugal> any chances of having*officially* an app like FrostWire?
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18:51:44 <vicc_portugal> anyone?
18:52:27 <Gizmokid2005> vicc_portugal: check the forums
18:52:32 <Gizmokid2005> the search is useful for that stuff
18:52:46 <vicc_portugal> i didn't searched
18:53:10 <vicc_portugal> but i've downloaded FrostWire Portable 4.17.2
18:53:33 <vicc_portugal> deleted 4.17.2 and copied 4.18.3
18:53:41 <vicc_portugal> and it's working
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18:59:06 <SteveLamerton> Hello all, I need some advice!
18:59:33 <vicc_portugal> link frostwire portable: http://portableapps.com/node/11822
19:00:07 <vicc_portugal> it also doesn't work with upx
19:00:18 <Gizmokid2005> yes SteveLamerton!
19:00:26 <vicc_portugal> say it Steve
19:00:41 <SteveLamerton> Hmmm, all the devs are in -dev, I will talk there if support is happening here
19:00:49 <Gizmokid2005> no support SteveLamerton
19:01:00 <Gizmokid2005> vicc_portugal is just bein inquisitive
19:01:18 <vicc_portugal> no
19:01:22 <vicc_portugal> u can talk
19:01:47 <SteveLamerton> Ok, so I just need some general advice as I am writing the application for me to give a talk at FOSDEM 2010 about PortableApps.com
19:01:53 <SteveLamerton> You can see the application form here: http://www.fosdem.org/2010/call_for_lightningtalks
19:03:23 <SteveLamerton> Now in previous years people seem to have kept discriptions and things pretty brief, you can see them for 2009 here: http://archive.fosdem.org/2009/schedule/tracks/lightningtalks
19:04:43 <SteveLamerton> So query one is about what you guys think I should put down for license, I currently have "Mainly GPL (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html) other open source licenses also" but technically a lot of thing like the install use GPL with exceptions, but I cant find a handy link on PA.com to it, so not sure what to do there ;)
19:06:33 <SteveLamerton> Any ideas?
19:07:19 <vicc_portugal> sorry, but that's a lot of english even for google translate.
19:07:20 <ZachThibeau> well for the mozilla products we package we follow the mpl maybe that one?
19:07:32 <Gizmokid2005> well /technically/ our project is GPL
19:07:47 <Gizmokid2005> because PortableAPps doesn't do the app SteveLamerton, we just portableize them, and what we do is fully GPL'd
19:08:22 <SteveLamerton> Apart from the installer which is kind of key but uses GPL with exceptions ;)
19:08:44 <Gizmokid2005> well it's GPL'd with trademarks.
19:09:38 <SteveLamerton> From the installer page 'Free / Open Source (GPL) with exceptions for freeware and free open source. Commercial use by contacting PortableApps.com'
19:09:57 <vicc_portugal> "my app is GPL, but some components aren't" is it?
19:11:38 <SteveLamerton> I guess so ;)
19:11:53 <vicc_portugal> wow
19:12:01 <vicc_portugal> i was lucky
19:12:15 <SteveLamerton> Maybe as the Suite is GPL I will go with that and say packaged apps are under their own free or open source license
19:12:40 <vicc_portugal> are you talking about pa.c?
19:13:27 <SteveLamerton> vicc_portugal: YEs
19:14:32 <SteveLamerton> Probably be back later with a couple more question, must dash now, lost track of time, bye!
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19:15:28 <vicc_portugal> "License of PA.c is mainly GPL. Our apps are GPL. Some portabilized apps are also GPL. Only some freeware apps posted recently aren' open." If he waited...
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20:44:58 <morrjo84> mind if someone helps me solve a menu problem?
20:45:50 <Gizmokid2005> morrjo84: as always...just ask.
20:46:15 <morrjo84> okay, well, with my new prototypes, when I try to launch them from the menu
20:46:18 <morrjo84> It doesnt go
20:46:29 <morrjo84> however, the launchers that are in the base directory
20:46:32 <morrjo84> they work!
20:46:39 <morrjo84> why does this happen?
20:46:57 <gluxon> ?
20:47:02 <gluxon> Oh.
20:47:06 <gluxon> Your custom launchers?
20:47:09 <morrjo84> yes
20:47:24 <gluxon> Check the appinfo.ini
20:47:27 <morrjo84> okay
20:47:31 <gluxon> It's not configured correctly.
20:47:50 <gluxon> Or if you're not planning to become an official developer, just delete it.
20:48:16 <morrjo84> the appinfo is correct
20:48:39 <morrjo84> the launcher in x:/potableapps/Someapp/Somelauncher.exe works
20:48:49 <morrjo84> but launching from the menu desnt
20:48:52 <morrjo84> doesnt
20:50:12 <morrjo84> how can I fix this?
20:53:29 <gluxon> oh, sorry.
20:53:36 <gluxon> I was away for a while.
20:54:00 <gluxon> Rename appinfo.ini to appinfo2.ini
20:54:07 <gluxon> Then refresh the menu.
20:54:11 <gluxon> Or restart it.
20:58:00 <morrjo84> k
20:58:41 <morrjo84> yay
20:58:43 <morrjo84> IT WORKS
20:58:47 <morrjo84> thanks dude!
20:58:51 <morrjo84> but.... how???
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21:01:37 <morrjo84> ah well
21:01:43 <morrjo84> tis a question for another day
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21:43:33 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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21:43:39 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is currently working on a super cool media player called musicplay3000 aka mp3k
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21:43:45 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 and RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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21:48:49 <rcmaehl> May I be unbanned in -ot I've been banned for some time now.
21:50:06 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: no, not until you can prove that you can act more mature and follow simple rules and instructions. Until you can do that. No.
21:51:56 <rcmaehl> I have a question, what's the max number of apps that the PAP can display?
21:52:10 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: it's unlimited afaik
21:52:21 <Bensawsome> i have like 300+
21:53:29 <rcmaehl> I have 872
21:53:43 <rcmaehl> Most less then 5MB
21:53:53 <gluxon> :0
21:54:02 <gluxon> I managed to change CAFE Mod's complete name :)
21:55:04 <Bensawsome> lol
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22:04:10 <rcmaehl> May I test the unlimited apps theory?
22:04:46 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: it's your computer, and your hardware...nobody is going to stop you...
22:04:56 <rcmaehl> Thx :D
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22:08:13 <gluxon> RELEASE: http://portableapps.com/node/21809
22:08:32 <gluxon> rcmaehl: Unlimited apps theory?
22:08:46 <rcmaehl> gluxon: which app
22:08:49 <sar3th> gluxon: "some launcher updates" <- please be more specificv
22:08:57 <gluxon> Okay :)
22:09:33 <sar3th> ty :)
22:11:33 <gluxon> Done :)
22:11:45 <gluxon> BTW, pidgin won't connect to freenode :/
22:12:01 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: it's user error.
22:12:11 <Gizmokid2005> or caused by you using a bad server that's down because of the netsplits
22:12:15 <Gizmokid2005> if you look at freenode's blog
22:12:27 <gluxon> I knew somebody in the channel knew about this :)
22:12:37 <sar3th> gluxon: thanks for editing :)
22:12:38 <gluxon> BTW, link?
22:12:39 <Gizmokid2005> just use irc.freenode.net for the server
22:12:43 <gluxon> :/
22:12:45 <Gizmokid2005> http://blog.freenode.org
22:12:46 <gluxon> That's what I used.
22:12:54 <Gizmokid2005> erm
22:12:55 <Gizmokid2005> .net
22:14:07 <gluxon> Thanks :)
22:14:53 <gluxon> I have to go :(
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22:25:06 <sar3th> i see, installer 1.0.1 has been released..
22:25:17 <Gizmokid2005> a couple days ago :P
22:25:39 <sar3th> >_<
22:25:49 <sar3th> is there a newsfeed or anything?
22:26:10 <sar3th> nm, found it
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22:44:37 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
22:44:40 <GizmoBot> sar3th is developing LyXPortable together with OliverK and thinks you should give http://portableapps.com/node/21544 a try!
22:44:43 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is currently working on a super cool media player called musicplay3000 aka mp3k
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23:50:45 <rcmaehl> 5000 .exe files and it still displays them all