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01:58:43 <Mir> dbdii407: you server is down
01:58:50 <dbdii407> Yep
01:59:32 <dbdii407> Mir, You have to note. I'm /always/ using the server. :P
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02:08:24 <dbdii407> rmccue, Welcome. Long time, no see.
02:08:27 <dbdii407> Mir, Up.
02:08:31 <rmccue> Hey.
02:13:22 <Mir> thanks
02:14:00 <Mir> [18:00] [Info] Looking for server irc.scrapirc.com:6667...
02:14:02 <Mir> [18:00] [Info] Server found, connecting...
02:14:03 <Mir> [18:00] [Error] Connection to Server irc.scrapirc.com lost: connection actively refused.
02:14:06 <Mir> thats what i got
02:24:04 <ZachThibeau> hey rmccue
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03:48:21 <pa_2255> hey
03:48:33 <pa_2255> anyone here tell me how to help add new progs to this project
03:49:04 <pa_2255> i want to help submit a paf version of virtual box and linux os that falls under size 50 mb
03:49:43 <pa_2255> is anyone awake
03:49:48 <pa_2255> is this irc thing working
03:50:13 <dbdii407> Yep
03:50:20 <pa_2255> ok
03:50:25 <pa_2255> well how do i submit a paf file
03:50:34 <dbdii407> Virtual Box?
03:50:39 <pa_2255> i think i can get virutal box and linux os dsl version up tonight
03:50:40 <pa_2255> yes
03:50:58 <dbdii407> Doesn't that require Admin permission for something?
03:50:58 <pa_2255> i found a way how to get two very wanted progs on the pa site
03:51:03 <pa_2255> i dont know
03:51:15 <pa_2255> i just know this site lacks two progs already avaibe to uplaod
03:51:20 <pa_2255> i dont see anyone doing anything
03:51:22 <pa_2255> so i want to help
03:51:34 <pa_2255> damn small linux distro be perfect for this site
03:51:38 <pa_2255> it only uses 50 mb
03:51:45 <pa_2255> can fit on even a 64 mb flash drive
03:52:49 <pa_2255> i alreayd found portable versions of virtual box out and ready i dont understand why it takes so much time to get even an alrready working version on this site
03:53:28 <pa_2255> the linux coming soon has been up for like year now i remember it being there when i was still at school
03:54:09 <dbdii407> pa_2255, Read this: http://portableapps.com/node/19703#comment-121384
03:54:57 <dbdii407> http://portableapps.com/node/19703#comment-121609
03:55:23 <dbdii407> Apparently there have been some issues with "User Limitations"
03:55:59 <dbdii407> I do believe that we keep it under a (as i call it) "user can do everything" basis
03:57:14 <pa_2255> hmmm well its open source there gotta be a way to fix it
03:57:31 <pa_2255> what about Qemu
03:57:45 <pa_2255> i fiund a way to get damn small linux running under usb
03:57:54 <pa_2255> that shiuld be up there too
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03:58:26 <pa_2255> i once saw a student run linux on the school pc it ran via Qemu fast as a rocket no reboot
03:59:04 <dbdii407> I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that App
03:59:08 <pa_2255> is there any issues with the linux thing coming soon
03:59:20 <pa_2255> its a app runs on usb drive acts like a cpu emualtor
03:59:38 <pa_2255> its on the pendrivelinux.com website
03:59:42 <pa_2255> or is it .org
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04:00:00 <pa_2255> yup its .com
04:00:14 <dbdii407> http://portableapps.com/node/1605#comment-6604
04:00:25 <pa_2255> damn small linux seems to be the best linux distro fit for limited enviroment
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04:01:51 <pa_2255> well if qemu is ok to use why is it not on the app lists of this site
04:02:45 <pa_2255> both qemu w/dsl pesistence and vbox portable version seems possible
04:02:59 <DaveDixonII> Everything on the list, took time and alot of headache to make portable. If it's already Portable, If we didn't make it portable, I believe we don't list it.
04:03:31 <DaveDixonII> Because well, We didn't do anything.
04:03:34 <pa_2255> ill make a limited account to run a example of vbox just to prove it can run fine in limited enviroment
04:03:45 <pa_2255> sigh well it sucks how the vbox dont come in paf
04:03:47 <pa_2255> format
04:04:09 <pa_2255> after al it was open source and can prob be allowed on the site
04:04:19 <DaveDixonII> It could be
04:04:25 <DaveDixonII> If there wasn't a user account issue.
04:05:17 <pa_2255> well i runing win7 now ill just make a limited account full locks everything and see how the user account issue goes then this is ridiculous 1 year to come up with a way to run an ewmulator on a usb key
04:06:49 <DaveDixonII> We've had our minds set on other things.
04:07:18 <DaveDixonII> Although, I do believe it is still discussed.
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04:10:27 <pa_2255> hmmm
04:10:39 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2255: if it's not up on the site, there's a reason
04:10:49 <pa_2255> well i found damn small linux be the best option for a usb os
04:10:52 <Gizmokid2005> for instance, VirtualBox isn't up because it requires admin rights to install required drivers.
04:10:57 <pa_2255> hmmm
04:11:06 <pa_2255> yup that wiuld do it
04:11:08 <Gizmokid2005> especially the Network driver, which kills all active network connections upon install.
04:11:24 <Gizmokid2005> Qemu has been discussed, but I don't recall why that hasn't progressed.
04:11:35 <Gizmokid2005> and DSL isn't an application by definition...
04:11:43 <Gizmokid2005> you can boot it off of a usb stick, but that's not what we do here.
04:12:05 <pa_2255> it shiuld be bundled with qemu to run off of usb flash drie
04:12:33 <pa_2255> i saw a guy at my school use qemu to elevate permsiion to run something like vbox within the linuc screen
04:12:34 <Gizmokid2005> then you run into licensing issues, etc.
04:12:39 <pa_2255> ah
04:12:41 <pa_2255> i see
04:12:48 <Gizmokid2005> plus if the computer can't handle a VM with it's current hardware, it would be pretty pointless
04:13:18 <Gizmokid2005> ie - if you run into a machine with 512M ram and you try to run qemu, it /may/ run with 256M but it's going to bring the whole system to a crawl
04:13:26 <Gizmokid2005> especially on an older system with a single core
04:13:34 <pa_2255> ah i see
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04:16:25 <DaveDixonII> Well he just got his dreams shattered in less than 5 minutes. Lol.
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04:17:11 <Gizmokid2005> He wanted to come in here and act like we were not doing something just because...uninformed people are hazards.
04:17:22 <Gizmokid2005> and I like to take care of hazards as they arise before they become problems...
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04:19:33 <pa_6162> im bak
04:19:42 <pa_6162> i just found out the requirments of dsl
04:19:44 <pa_6162> linux
04:20:00 <pa_6162> it seems its needs far underscore todays computers
04:20:12 <pa_6162> it barky even needs a cpu it says it can run under x86
04:20:15 <pa_6162> 128 mb
04:20:30 <Gizmokid2005> yes, but there are a LOT of machines out there these days, that still don't have much more than that
04:20:41 <pa_6162> Damn Small is small enough and smart enough to do the following things: Boot from a business card CD as a live linux distribution (LiveCD) Boot from a USB pen drive Boot from within a host operating system (that's right, it can run *inside* Windows) Run very nicely from an IDE Compact Flash drive via a method we call "frugal install" Transform into a Debian OS with a traditional hard drive install Run light enough to power
04:20:47 <Gizmokid2005> for instance, if you are using it at a school, a LOT of them are still not even running P4s with 256M ram
04:21:00 <Gizmokid2005> and not only would it most likely be against it rules, it would pretty much hose the machine
04:21:02 <pa_6162> it dont need p4 or 256
04:21:07 <pa_6162> it barlyt needs a pentium
04:21:08 <Gizmokid2005> it doesn't pa_6162
04:21:26 <Gizmokid2005> but to run it, in a manner that would affect us, in a VM like qemu, you have to take into consideration the host os as well
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04:21:50 <Gizmokid2005> otherwise it doesn't concern us, and anyone can do a search for pen drive linux, or booting linux from USB and figure out how to do it.
04:22:16 <Gizmokid2005> you have to understand the scope of our project here.
04:22:21 <pa_6162> its just sad how this site is so perfect except that one lil catagory the os section
04:22:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_6162: that's not what we do
04:22:39 <Gizmokid2005> we are PortableAPPS not PortableOperatingSystems...
04:22:51 <pa_6162> good piunt
04:22:56 <Gizmokid2005> we make current windows applications portable
04:22:59 <pa_6162> but then why make a os section anyway
04:23:05 <Gizmokid2005> to use on most windows machines
04:23:07 <DaveDixonII> That was there from the start
04:23:34 <Gizmokid2005> Mac-on-Stick was a very old emulator that has been there for ages
04:23:40 <DaveDixonII> I don't even think it has a launcher.
04:23:45 <Gizmokid2005> and the tutorial/how-to is no longer even active or working
04:24:04 <Gizmokid2005> pa_6162: if you notice, the page doesn't even link to an app here, it's just to a different website.
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17:09:25 <sllpykillr7> how do i remove programs off of the list when i open the launcher
17:09:45 <sllpykillr7> ?
17:11:07 <sllpykillr7> hello?
17:11:18 <sllpykillr7> can anybody help me with tht?
17:12:13 <sllpykillr7> YO DOUCHEBAGS
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17:26:54 <Mir> that was crude
17:27:38 <DaveDixonII> Now, note that i=, and when he comes back, We'll tell him that he was rude on his last visit. :P
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20:05:47 <GizmoBot> digitxp has his old launchers available at http://portableapps.com/node/21283
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22:31:20 <pa_2056> hi
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