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02:31:01 <pa_6030> Hello, newb here :D
02:31:14 <pa_6030> I'd like to ask how to speed up app launcher (like disable splash screen)
02:31:24 <pa_6030> this guy did it , from 2s to 0.15s, but he hardly explained what he did http://portableapps.com/node/14790
02:31:29 <pa_6030> Thank you
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03:03:22 <pa_6030> hello
03:03:26 <pa_6030> anyone ?
03:03:47 <pa_6030> [09:30] <pa_6030> I'd like to ask how to speed up app launcher (like disable splash screen) [09:31] <pa_6030> this guy did it , from 2s to 0.15s, but he hardly explained what he did http://portableapps.com/node/14790 [09:31] <pa_6030> Thank you
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03:11:54 <pa_6030> [09:30] <pa_6030> I'd like to ask how to speed up app launcher (like disable splash screen) [09:31] <pa_6030> this guy did it , from 2s to 0.15s, but he hardly explained what he did http://portableapps.com/node/14790 [09:31] <pa_6030> Thank you
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04:51:46 <pa_2372> Hi there, are there any portable apps support people around?
04:52:23 <pa_2372> I am interested in distributing portable apps on a secure biometric USB flash token that we are creating, and require a custom splash screen and to bundle MOzilla FF and Mozilla Thunderbird on its secure partition.
04:52:40 <pa_2372> I want to know what if any license permissions or agreements I hvae to sign with Portable Apps in order to do this.
04:52:43 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> pa_2372: you'd want to use the contact information on the website.
04:53:00 <pa_2372> ok thanks, bye bye
04:53:02 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> pa_2372: use this: http://portableapps.com/about/contact#business
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04:59:52 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
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06:31:03 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
06:43:38 <rmccue> Gizmokid2005|AFK: :(
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08:47:52 <taneth111> hi all.
08:54:02 <ChrisMorgan> Helloo taneth111
08:54:07 <ChrisMorgan> Haven't seen you for a while
08:54:25 <taneth111> school holidays = lazy phase :P
08:57:32 <ChrisMorgan> Not for me... having finished school I'm working on a commercial project of my own now.
08:57:40 <ChrisMorgan> Quite enjoyable really :-)
09:02:37 <taneth111> cool.
09:02:50 <taneth111> any more info on said commercial project?
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09:05:17 <ChrisMorgan> It's written in Python.
09:05:26 <ChrisMorgan> It's primarily at first a web application.
09:05:30 <ChrisMorgan> It uses Django.
09:05:39 <ChrisMorgan> And Satchmo.
09:07:24 <taneth111> ah.
09:07:47 <ChrisMorgan> Do you know what they are? (Other than Python)
09:08:48 <ChrisMorgan> Django: web application framework. The best I've seen for speed, simplicity [lack of repetition in particular] and power and really everything /except/ for ease of deployment (PHP on a shared server is much more common than Python)
09:09:10 <taneth111> Yep, I already knew that :D
09:09:12 <ChrisMorgan> Satchmo: e-commerce framework built on Django
09:09:24 <taneth111> however, satchmo I haven't heard of before.
09:09:33 * ChrisMorgan thinks the PortableApps.com site should be a Django project
09:09:57 <ChrisMorgan> The Application Directory would be far simpler to do with Django than Drupal.
09:10:17 <ChrisMorgan> However, the forums etc. while possible, would be a bit of work to avoid any data loss.
09:10:41 <taneth111> ah, but that would need time to swap over, which John seems to lack recently.
09:10:43 <ChrisMorgan> It'd be easy enough to get Django to authenticate from the Drupal database.
09:10:46 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, sure.
09:10:55 <ChrisMorgan> That's why I don't expect it to happen :-)
09:11:06 <ChrisMorgan> Besides, I've got to move Inkscape over to Django first.
09:11:22 <taneth111> inkscape.org?
09:11:36 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
09:12:14 <ChrisMorgan> web site, wiki, planet (RSS aggregator), (new) extensions repository, anything else anyone happens to think of
09:13:02 <ChrisMorgan> At the moment though the thing I'm spending almost all my free time on is my CRS.
09:13:20 <taneth111> define:crs
09:13:27 <ChrisMorgan> And it won't help you searching for definitions of it :D
09:13:34 <taneth111> :P
09:13:40 <ChrisMorgan> It's a new acronym of my own inventions for my own project.
09:13:55 <taneth111> Content rooster system?
09:13:57 <ChrisMorgan> And my project happens to be in an entirely new field... no-one has done anything like it yet.
09:13:57 <taneth111> =D
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09:14:03 <ChrisMorgan> taneth111: no.
09:14:12 <ChrisMorgan> That's your first guess gone.
09:14:18 <ChrisMorgan> Two more.
09:14:50 <taneth111> hmm.
09:15:05 <taneth111> Chris' Raffle Switch?
09:15:25 <rmccue1> ChrisMorgan: Planet? Sounds like a great use for Lilina. ;)
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09:16:10 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: it's not Django.
09:16:14 <ChrisMorgan> Or even Python.
09:16:16 <rmccue> Heh :P
09:17:02 <rmccue> Also, CRS = content revision system?
09:17:15 <taneth111> It's actually "Cow Reading Syndrome".
09:17:35 <ChrisMorgan> You've wasted all your guesses! :O
09:17:37 <rmccue> Constant Replier Syndrome
09:17:45 <ChrisMorgan> The "System" is correct.
09:17:59 <rmccue> C*S is usually Content * System.
09:18:11 <ChrisMorgan> Only for * = M
09:18:17 <ChrisMorgan> And I mentioned Satchmo... that might help you.
09:18:22 <rmccue> I've seen it used a lot more.
09:18:26 <rmccue> .g satchmo
09:18:27 <GizmoBot> rmccue: http://www.satchmoproject.com/
09:18:53 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: * Retail System
09:19:21 <ChrisMorgan> For replacing Planet I looked at Feedjack but like the look of http://github.com/matagus/django-planet more, based somewhat on feedjack. Both are Django applications.
09:19:25 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: *ding*
09:19:28 <ChrisMorgan> Now the C.
09:19:48 <rmccue> Customised?
09:19:51 <ChrisMorgan> No
09:20:00 <taneth111> Carpal_tunnel?
09:20:02 <ChrisMorgan> This is the one I think you're not likely to guess quickly.
09:20:07 <rmccue> Custom?
09:20:11 <ChrisMorgan> No, no
09:20:32 <rmccue> Hint.
09:20:34 <ChrisMorgan> I think this is a matter for #portableapps-ot really...
09:20:44 <rmccue> That still exists? :P
09:20:49 <ChrisMorgan> Seems like it.
09:20:59 <taneth111> yup
09:21:17 <taneth111> CD?
09:21:38 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: join #portableapps-ot if you want to continue
09:21:56 <rmccue> I have no time for that. :P
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10:55:57 <ChrisMorgan> I'll be away until next Saturday (i.e. 8 days).
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11:02:06 <taneth111> k
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11:22:27 <Horusofoz> Hey Everybody :)
11:22:41 <Horusofoz> What's in the news today?
11:24:11 <Horusofoz> ChrisMorgan took over Microsoft? ZachThibeau's media player becomes the PS3 default? Someone actually said Bensawsome is awesome? :p
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11:31:00 <Horusofoz> News Just In. 95% of PA.com chat room attendees taken over by brain sucking slugs. Lone survivor Horusofoz lives to tell the tale. "I don't know what happened. I was in a room filled with 20 others but everyone was basically like... dead. Kinda eery.". ;)
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15:14:42 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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16:32:33 <pa_6087> hello
16:32:52 <pa_6087> please upgrade Teamviewer app!!!
16:33:02 <pa_6087> you have vers. 4.1
16:33:21 <pa_6087> TW has already vers. 5
16:33:48 <pa_6087> it's not compatible bacwards
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16:37:09 <[klaudiu]> it's possible?
16:37:27 <Gizmokid2005> [klaudiu]: not our application, it's handled by the TV team
16:37:56 <[klaudiu]> oh :(
16:38:21 <[klaudiu]> thanks anyway...
16:49:50 <sar3th> http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx
16:50:02 <sar3th> "For mobile use: TeamViewer Portable", "Download v5.0.7687"
16:50:13 <sar3th> it's not in PAF, but it's still (more or less) portable
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17:04:33 <pa_2156> Whats the difference between the platform and the suite
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17:13:14 <[klaudiu]> Using TeamViewer 5 Portable requires a TeamViewer Premium
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18:34:15 <SteveLamerton> Hello Gizmokid2005, MaienM, ZachThibeau, all
18:35:47 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
18:37:04 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
18:37:21 <SteveLamerton> Hey guys, all quiet again tonight I see :)
18:37:44 <Gizmokid2005> yep :)
18:37:45 <Gizmokid2005> though...
18:37:47 <Gizmokid2005> .t
18:37:47 <GizmoBot> Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:37:47 EST
18:37:51 <Gizmokid2005> it's actually afternoon :D
18:38:56 <SteveLamerton> Just because you are in the wrong time zone Gizmokid2005 ;)
18:39:00 <SteveLamerton> .t GMT
18:39:00 <GizmoBot> Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:38:59 GMT
18:39:11 <MaienM> I have to agree with SteveLamerton
18:39:12 <MaienM> .t MaienM
18:39:13 <GizmoBot> Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:39:12 CET
18:39:14 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: but it isn't I who is in the wrong timezone :P
18:39:23 <Gizmokid2005> PA.c originates in EST :P
18:39:27 <MaienM> everyone knows the 'MaienM' timezone is the only real timezone ;)
18:39:37 <SteveLamerton> MaienM: You in GMT?
18:39:48 <MaienM> GMT+1, aka CET
18:39:49 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: The world follows GMT ;)
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18:40:07 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: of course it doesn't :P
18:40:08 <Gizmokid2005> :D
18:40:09 <MaienM> actually, I'm a hour ahead of GMT
18:40:16 <MaienM> so I'm not exactly "following" ;)
18:40:19 <MaienM> more like leading
18:40:23 <Gizmokid2005> lol
18:40:27 <Gizmokid2005> I'm just being difficult
18:40:37 <Gizmokid2005> I managed to get KVIrc's launcher more robust
18:40:48 <Gizmokid2005> so it should launch much faster and not bring up the first run wizard anymore
18:41:14 <MaienM> and on top of that, it should actually work now, right? ;)
18:41:29 <Gizmokid2005> hey, it worked before too
18:41:36 <Gizmokid2005> I just have to code in the regkey removal
18:41:46 <SteveLamerton> MaienM: The nice thing about Europe being ahead is that to get back to the UK it only takes an hour, but three going!
18:42:41 <MaienM> while that logic is kinda wrong, thats awesome :P
18:45:11 <sar3th> lol, ot? ;)
18:47:43 <SteveLamerton> MaienM: Works for me ;)
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19:33:14 <tylor22ontopcomp> quiet day
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20:51:19 <SteveLamerton> Well I will have to go to FOSDEM now, not only do I have a talk slot but a hotel and train tickets too ;)
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21:14:34 <gluxon> Hey excid3 :)
21:15:31 <excid3> hey
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22:11:38 <rcmaehl> I've found a way to decrease the PAP load time
22:12:19 <rcmaehl> Spring clean the PortableAppsMenu.ini file
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22:16:29 <JohnTHaller> Ho-la
22:17:17 <Oni-Neoxes> rcmaehl: already do that
22:17:20 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello JohnTHaller
22:17:24 <Oni-Neoxes> How was CES
22:18:24 <JohnTHaller> Twas good.
22:18:36 <Oni-Neoxes> Must of been Amazing.
22:19:17 <rcmaehl> >< The pants on the ground people are annoying
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22:19:19 <JohnTHaller> Busy working most of it. Meeting with and scouting out different prospective partners. Had meetings with a few we've been chatting with for a while.
22:19:40 <Oni-Neoxes> Nice.
22:21:48 <JohnTHaller> How much of a donation you think people would be willing to make to Doctors Without Borders to get a PortableApps.com-branded red flash drive like I gave out at CES and OSCON?
22:22:10 <Oni-Neoxes> That would be wicked o.o
22:23:36 * rcmaehl has a PortableApp. I makes the falsh drive ask for help
22:23:56 <SteveLamerton> Hello JohnTHaller
22:24:01 <gluxon> Do those red flash drives have the PA.c logo on them? :D
22:24:01 <JohnTHaller> Hi SteveLamerton
22:24:03 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello SteveLamerton
22:24:10 <SteveLamerton> Hello Oni-Neoxes
22:24:20 <Oni-Neoxes> gluxon: "PortableApps.com-branded"
22:24:24 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, it's a red drive with a white metal swivel cover. The PA.c logo is laser etched on the swivel.
22:24:30 <gluxon> O_O
22:24:32 * gluxon wantz one.
22:24:39 * Oni-Neoxes wantz one also.
22:24:54 * ptmb wantz one too.
22:24:55 <gluxon> I would pay 20 bucks for one :P
22:24:57 * rcmaehl will trade his 16gb for a pa 8gb
22:25:05 <rcmaehl> PA*
22:25:19 <JohnTHaller> I've been debating selling a few as a PA.c fundraiser. But I just saw a site where they were asking folks to donate to red cross in exchange for a free DVD, so I was thinking about that, too.
22:25:40 <rcmaehl> I have an idea
22:25:46 <Oni-Neoxes> Also I heard about the Doctors without Borders.
22:25:52 <rcmaehl> PortableApps Online
22:25:58 <JohnTHaller> It'd be more as a collectible than as a general purpose one now (since we only have a handful made at a time and between the cost, loading and shipping, it's not at all competitive with standard drives).
22:25:59 <SteveLamerton> I would sell a few as a fund raiser, or maybe do a half and half
22:26:03 <rcmaehl> Have your apps on the internet
22:26:08 <gluxon> Wait, won't donating to the red cross mean somebody sticking a needle in your arm? :(
22:26:21 <Oni-Neoxes> gluxon: I always donate blood
22:26:24 <rcmaehl> And access them anywhere
22:26:30 <gluxon> I hate needles!!! :P
22:26:33 * rcmaehl is currently do that
22:26:33 <JohnTHaller> I mean donating money to help with the Haiti recovery effort.
22:27:38 <gluxon> Oh. I heard about that in school :'(
22:28:01 <Oni-Neoxes> I did the "Text Haiti to the #####" Thing
22:28:16 <rcmaehl> earthquake
22:28:16 <rcmaehl> ?
22:28:24 <rcmaehl> no just a train
22:28:35 <Oni-Neoxes> ...
22:28:44 <rcmaehl> here
22:28:46 <Oni-Neoxes> Too soon rcmaehl.
22:30:14 <Oni-Neoxes> Back to First-Person Tetris.
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22:30:52 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback
22:31:01 <Oni-Neoxes> G'Day computerfreaker
22:31:10 <computerfreaker> Hi Oni-Neoxes!
22:31:12 <computerfreaker> Hi guys!
22:31:17 <computerfreaker> I was just looking at the IRC log, and noticed you guys were talking about the Haiti disaster
22:31:21 <rcmaehl> rcmaehl is now talking in third person. He says hi to computerfreaker
22:31:28 <computerfreaker> hi rcmaehl!
22:31:42 <rcmaehl> rcmaehl posts :D
22:31:46 <computerfreaker> be careful about Haiti donation sites - a lot of them are frauds
22:31:50 <JohnTHaller> yeah, I was trying to see if it was worth it to give away a few PA.c drives in exchange for donations to doctors without borders.
22:32:02 <computerfreaker> I think it's definitely worth it
22:32:12 * computerfreaker wishes he had the cash to donate
22:32:18 <Oni-Neoxes> computerfreaker: are you stalking us? The only time I use the IRC logs is if something is funny and needed to be recorded.
22:32:29 <Oni-Neoxes> I wish I could donate in the first place. ):
22:32:31 <gluxon> Oh, hey cf :D
22:32:45 <computerfreaker> I'm not stalking you guys, I've been signed off to keep up with school work so I periodically read the last hour or two of logs to keep up to date
22:32:58 <computerfreaker> hi gluxon!
22:33:02 <JohnTHaller> It'd be... go make a donation of at least $X to doctors without borders, then the first 10 people who do and email a copy of their receipt to us get a free cool drive... something like that
22:33:39 <gluxon> So, is the drive like the one in the Stellarium Splash?
22:34:55 <Oni-Neoxes> I would die to have a PA.c Flash Drive
22:35:07 <computerfreaker> btw, guys, be careful about the Haiti donations
22:35:12 <computerfreaker> most are legit sites, but some are frauds
22:35:15 <computerfreaker> and some are malware
22:35:32 <computerfreaker> I've been busy analyzing a couple of rogue AV's that are taking full advantage of the Haiti crisis to spread
22:35:42 <rcmaehl> ><
22:35:56 <JohnTHaller> No, it's this one with a red drive and white swivel: http://customusb.com/products-flashdrive-spin.html
22:36:37 <gluxon> Oh, still pretty awesome though :)
22:36:38 <rcmaehl> :D
22:36:59 <rcmaehl> that's were I got my joystick controlled laser pointer
22:37:06 <Oni-Neoxes> That Reminds me
22:37:06 <ptmb> I once had one of those in dark blue... it had 128Mb :P
22:37:51 <Oni-Neoxes> I always wanted to develope for PA.c
22:37:59 <Oni-Neoxes> What were the languages needed?
22:38:01 <JohnTHaller> Everyone can :-)
22:38:03 <Oni-Neoxes> NSIS and c++?
22:38:15 <JohnTHaller> Our launchers and installer are NSIS. The platform menu is Delphi
22:38:40 <Oni-Neoxes> what about the Apps? to modify them and all.
22:38:56 <rcmaehl> http://www.dailycupoftech.com/Downloads/LostDrive.zip <- should make into PortableApp
22:39:24 <Oni-Neoxes> Being a Big fan of PA.c just isn't enough for me. I actually want to help make some apps PA.c compatible
22:39:40 <gluxon> Oni-Neoxes: It's easy :D
22:39:50 <gluxon> You just need NSIS knolegde.
22:39:55 <gluxon> I found NSIS easier than HTML.
22:40:05 <Oni-Neoxes> So I need to find an eBook of NSIS
22:40:10 <Oni-Neoxes> anything else?
22:40:55 <gluxon> No.
22:41:00 <Oni-Neoxes> ?
22:41:05 <gluxon> The NSIS Manual. :D
22:41:15 <Oni-Neoxes> the NSIS Manual. :p
22:41:16 <gluxon> Teaches everything you need to know :)
22:41:28 <gluxon> And comes with NSIS Portable, so.. yeah :P
22:41:28 <Oni-Neoxes> is there any other languages needed to know?
22:41:33 <gluxon> Nope! :D
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22:42:20 <Oni-Neoxes> I always been itching to make things portable and begin app creation. (Going to college for Software Design and programming, And also Network Specialist)
22:44:11 <gluxon> :)
22:44:19 <gluxon> What app you plan on portabalizing?
22:44:37 <Oni-Neoxes> anything I can get my hands on
22:44:59 <Oni-Neoxes> or try fixing probably my most favorite of all apps: Camstudio Portable
22:46:22 <gluxon> That thing hasn't been updated in a while :(
22:47:37 <Oni-Neoxes> If I can learn it
22:47:40 <Oni-Neoxes> I will update it
22:48:44 <gluxon> :)
22:50:14 <gluxon> I have to go now :(
22:50:16 <gluxon> sorry.
22:50:18 <gluxon> bye gusy.
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23:28:50 <rcmaehl> http://www.dailycupoftech.com/Downloads/LostDrive.zip <- make into PortableApp, please
23:30:43 <rcmaehl> Oh and
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23:31:14 <rcmaehl> The PAP is identified as hackware by some anti0viruses
23:32:54 <JohnTHaller> rcmaehl: There's no need. Just have a text file called "LostDrive.txt" in the root directory with your info in it.
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23:55:28 <pa_4869> Hello is there a developer online?
23:55:53 <pa_4869> Or an application manager?
23:56:50 <pa_4869> I am just checking to see if you guys know about the updated Teamviewer version 5? They are constantly updating Teamviewer, at least once or twice a month, and the portable version on this site is a little outdated.
23:58:13 <pa_4869> Just letting you know, but I'm sure you already know
23:58:26 <JohnTHaller> The build is complete and awaiting TeamViewer review. We build it and they QA it, so it takes longer.
23:58:35 <JohnTHaller> They host the file when it is complete.
23:58:36 <pa_4869> oh i see
23:58:44 <pa_4869> ok i was just checking
23:58:59 <pa_4869> Thanks for the response
23:59:17 <JohnTHaller> It's the most popular portable version, I think it exceeds their zip version as well. There are other packages of it portable elsewhere, but they're done without TeamViewer's permission and are illegal.
23:59:41 <JohnTHaller> The status is noted here: http://portableapps.com/node/19705
23:59:58 <pa_4869> well the one I have downloaded is from teamviewer's actual website, they have a portable version as well