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00:04:49 <pa_8795> hi just a quick question: when downloading the portable apps swite, does it have to be installed on the host computer where the USB us pluged into?
00:05:29 <pa_8795> *is
00:07:22 <pa_8795> nvmd got it
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04:54:56 <pa_3395> I installed Firefox 3.6, but uninstalled 3.0 AND the link in the platform. How can I get a link there?
04:55:18 <OliverK> refresh the menu
04:55:54 <pa_3395> I did, but it didn't work
04:56:18 <OliverK> installed to portableapps\firefoxportable?
04:57:13 <pa_3395> I installed to F:\PortableApps\Firefox Portable
04:57:39 <pa_3395> No space inbetween Firefox and portable
04:58:05 <OliverK> hmm
04:58:35 <OliverK> you have a file called appinfo.ini in firefoxportable\app\appinfo
04:59:14 <pa_3395> yes
04:59:23 <OliverK> exit the menu and restart
04:59:31 <pa_3395> which menu
04:59:31 <OliverK> if that doesn't fix it, i'm out of ideas
04:59:40 <OliverK> the portableapps.com menu
04:59:46 <OliverK> which menu are ou using?
04:59:51 <pa_3395> and then restart the platform?
05:00:03 <OliverK> yeah, restart it
05:00:47 <pa_3395> One problem: I'm using firefox portable right now
05:00:53 <OliverK> won't matter
05:01:05 <OliverK> pop open the menu and click the x on the bottom right
05:01:27 <OliverK> then pull open your menu and double click startportableapps.com.exe (or whatever its called
05:01:36 <pa_3395> ok so I quit PortableApps.com, then double clicked the app in the flash drive.
05:01:42 <pa_3395> it wasn't there
05:01:44 <OliverK> yeah
05:01:48 <OliverK> what?
05:02:16 <pa_3395> the Firefox portable icon wasn't there
05:02:28 <OliverK> in the menu?
05:02:35 <pa_3395> yes
05:02:44 <OliverK> k
05:02:48 <OliverK> and you've closed the menu?
05:02:52 <pa_3395> yes
05:02:54 <OliverK> so its not running or active
05:02:57 <OliverK> okay. Restart it
05:02:57 <pa_3395> no
05:03:05 <pa_3395> k
05:03:12 <OliverK> see if it shows up
05:03:26 <pa_3395> no
05:03:35 <OliverK> try a reboot and try again. You should have these issues, but if they persist, drop a note in the forums
05:03:44 <OliverK> its 11 oclock and I want to go to bed :)
05:03:51 <pa_3395> ok. so this may take a while?
05:03:55 <OliverK> shoudn't*
05:03:59 <OliverK> no
05:04:11 <OliverK> honestly, when you install a new app, it should refresh the platform
05:04:25 <OliverK> menu == platform
05:04:25 <pa_3395> I know. it did for VLC
05:04:28 <OliverK> right
05:04:35 <pa_3395> yeah
05:04:36 <OliverK> and it should have down it for firefox
05:04:49 <OliverK> if it didn't you may have isntalled firefox portable to the wrong spot
05:05:00 <OliverK> or the menu is acting up.
05:05:04 <OliverK> I can't tell for sure
05:05:17 <pa_3395> could I try uninstalling PortableApps, reinstall, then uninstall Fifefox, leave the icon, then install 3.6?
05:05:28 <OliverK> wait, you deleted a icon?
05:05:41 <pa_3395> yes. I renamed the icon to -
05:05:50 <OliverK> once you isntall firefox portable, don't delete anything or mess with anything
05:06:02 <OliverK> rename the icon back to appcion.ico or put antoher one there
05:06:12 <pa_3395> how
05:06:21 <pa_3395> and which
05:06:29 <OliverK> just reinstall firefox portable
05:06:43 <OliverK> and don't mess with anything under the app folder
05:06:47 <pa_3395> I have three times!
05:07:18 <pa_3395> I'll try uninstalling PortableApps
05:07:22 <pa_3395> then reinstall
05:07:36 <pa_3395> and do the same for Firefox, leaving the icon
05:07:40 <OliverK> you could just reinstall the platform
05:07:51 <pa_3395> ok
05:07:55 <pa_3395> thanks for the help
05:08:00 <OliverK> yeah, you should have a appicon.ico in firefoxportableapp\app\appinfo
05:08:03 <OliverK> no problem
05:08:15 <OliverK> if its still around, make a forum post
05:08:18 <OliverK> night
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11:23:28 <PortableDude> Hi
11:24:06 <PortableDude> I wante to ask is it legel to download videos from websites like youtube.com
11:25:58 <PortableDude> I was on Test Releases and did see a software called xVideoServiceThief
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11:40:44 <xerces8> Hi! I have a comment about the web site, but did not found a forum category that fits.
11:41:10 <xerces8> Should I write into "Off Topic Forum"?
11:48:41 <xerces8> OK, I postem in General
11:48:44 <xerces8> posted
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12:18:05 <pixous> help
12:18:05 <GizmoBot> pixous: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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12:27:16 <WastePotato> :/
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15:15:49 <SteveLamerton> Hi ZachThibeau
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15:20:13 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
15:20:21 <SteveLamerton> Hello MaienM
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16:01:18 <ZachThibeau> hey SteveLamerton :D I finally got my new monitor
16:01:35 <SteveLamerton> Awesome ZachThibeau :)
16:01:45 <ZachThibeau> 1600x1200 :)
16:02:53 <SteveLamerton> Very nice :) I think I might have to save up for a second monitor for my laptop, 1440x900 gets a little small...
16:03:18 <MaienM> I'm quite content with my 1680x1050 ;)
16:03:43 <MaienM> still saving up for a new pc though
16:03:52 <MaienM> saving up takes ages if you don't work :P
16:04:11 <ZachThibeau> I was lucky to get my monitor for $79 :)
16:05:08 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: Wow, nice deal!
16:05:23 <ZachThibeau> I like to think so :)
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17:23:29 <pa_9981> hey everybody
17:23:37 <pa_9981> is there anyone from staff online?
17:24:02 <pa_9981> I'd like to report: a file of firefox 3.6 portable russian is broken - it gives me an error
17:26:28 <pa_9981> strange, it's working now
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18:04:19 <pa_6312> why cant i intall any of these apps to my ipaq
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20:15:37 <gluxon> ptmb! :)
20:16:00 <Oni-Neoxes> Oni-Neoxes! :)
20:16:14 <ptmb> gluxon!
20:16:17 <ptmb> Oni-Neoxes!
20:16:21 <ptmb> me!
20:16:25 <Oni-Neoxes> ptmb!
20:16:52 <ptmb> blue!
20:17:35 <gluxon> Uh....
20:17:38 <gluxon> blue?
20:17:49 <ptmb> yes... blue :D
20:19:35 <ptmb> what were you expecting gluxon? That it was green? That makes no sense!
20:20:36 <gluxon> Well, that's the color of your nick on pidgin ;P
20:20:48 <ptmb> O_O
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20:30:11 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: By any chance, at compile time, did you change where IceCat writes and reads where the default location of Java is?
20:30:47 * Bensawsome got a new 2008 ford focus :D
20:33:45 <ZachThibeau> gluxon: I didn't change location, chances are still coded for the linux path's so I may have to adjust it (maybe if I do I can make it work with javaportable)
20:34:21 <gluxon> Yeah, somebody on the forums stated the IceCat Portable can use Java Portable but Firefox Portable can't :P
20:34:44 <gluxon> But now I see so many possibilities with IceCat that Firefox could never have :D
20:34:50 <ZachThibeau> well I didn't modify it at all though I never even really thought about it
20:35:07 <gluxon> Okay :)
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20:43:49 <TimClarkn> gluxon: have you even tried the Portable Superantispyware ?
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20:49:55 <SteveLamerton> Hello TimClark, ZachThibeau, everyone else who has arrived
20:50:12 <gluxon> TimClark: No?
20:50:16 <TimClark> Hi SteveLamerton
20:50:25 <OliverK> howdy SteveLamerton, TimClark
20:50:43 <SteveLamerton> Hi OliverK
20:51:25 <TimClark> gluxon: I was curious as to why you said so easily that a launcher could be made for it even you had not even tried it
20:52:17 <gluxon> Because it stores it's data %APPDATA%\SUPERAntiSpyware.com\SUPERAntiSpyware\
20:52:26 <TimClark> nope
20:52:35 <OliverK> gluxon: that makes it harder to do well
20:52:56 <gluxon> No? The System Environment Call?
20:53:08 <TimClark> try running it gluxon and see where most of the stuff goes
20:55:24 <gluxon> Are you talking about the HKLM?
20:55:44 <TimClark> nope
21:00:23 <gluxon> Then I really have no idea.
21:00:45 <OliverK> gluxon: i've read that you're not supposed to play with the appdata call
21:00:56 <OliverK> and I've never had luck manipulating it anyway
21:00:56 <gluxon> OliverK: Where?
21:01:08 <gluxon> OliverK: I have. Works perfectly :)
21:01:10 <TimClark> gluxon: that's the point, you have no idea and should not be talking about stuff you don't know about
21:01:23 <OliverK> gluxon: not sure where something chrismorgan said
21:01:29 <OliverK> heh
21:01:42 <OliverK> i've tried it on a couple of apps though and its never worked
21:01:54 <OliverK> oh, probably in the winamp forum
21:02:14 <OliverK> or thread I mean
21:02:28 <OliverK> supposed to royal screw up other apps. Why, I don't know
21:03:18 <TimClark> Guys, I'm not even sure that Portable Superantispyware even writes to any of those places
21:04:50 <OliverK> heh. Well, if it does, valid
21:05:04 <OliverK> if it doesn't, its nice to know that someone here has managed a appdata redirect
21:05:17 <TimClark> I can see several reasons why we "should not" make a paf/launcher for it, but that does not mean it can't be done, and i think there would be a interest
21:05:32 <TimClark> likes of folks want portable antimalware
21:05:39 <TimClark> lots *
21:06:09 <TimClark> OliverK: it's from the creators, why would it be a problem for them to do it
21:06:54 <OliverK> heh. See, I don't care. If some one wants to spend the time to doing it, that's fine. DOens't mean I'm going to use it though
21:07:00 <TimClark> I can't tell for sure of all the places it MIGHT write to [as i have the installed version]
21:07:29 <OliverK> heh. I could vm it, but why? I'm not really that interested in it.
21:07:53 <TimClark> Actually OliverK if it works like the installed version it's not a bad product, not top of my list , but not bad
21:08:12 <OliverK> i don't have enough ram for it
21:08:19 <TimClark> And the company is legit, inspite of the stupid name :P
21:08:28 <OliverK> i use noscript + virus total. Or don't use it
21:08:31 <OliverK> :)
21:08:35 <TimClark> Don't have enought ram ?
21:08:40 <OliverK> 512 RAM
21:08:44 <OliverK> I need to upgrade it
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21:09:14 <OliverK> but there is a outstanding problem with that -> $
21:09:16 <OliverK> :)
21:09:31 <TimClark> OliverK: the point is to have it on your stick to take to a machine that you think might have spyware/adware on it, nothing to do with noscript and virustotal
21:09:50 <OliverK> lol. I don't deal with those :)
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21:10:10 <TimClark> ah, I get it , you're not a support person
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21:10:13 <OliverK> and if I'm fixing a infected machine, I'm not really worried about it
21:10:17 <OliverK> nah, I do support
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21:10:32 <OliverK> I just don't do virus support
21:10:51 <OliverK> my parent's machine only has 128 MB or RAM with a 1 ghz processor. My server is better
21:10:52 <TimClark> actually it's not really antivirus
21:11:01 <OliverK> if they get a virus, I format and reinstall windows :)
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21:11:14 <TimClark> ah, the wimp method
21:11:19 <OliverK> howdy Chazz_
21:13:10 <OliverK> lol. The, they have nothing of important and its easier to just format and resinstall windows plus I want to really make sure I don't have a rogue running around method
21:13:24 <OliverK> wow. Totally mess there
21:15:29 <Oni-Neoxes> Ha. Hate the Wimp method. Love taking on Viruses myself. :D
21:15:53 <OliverK> lol. really, on my parents machine, its not WORTH the toruble
21:15:56 <OliverK> trouble*
21:15:57 <OliverK> at all
21:16:06 <Oni-Neoxes> what OS?
21:16:13 <OliverK> they can barely run firefox without running out of memory
21:16:15 <OliverK> XP
21:16:30 <Oni-Neoxes> IE7 is good enough
21:16:33 <Oni-Neoxes> not IE8
21:16:37 <OliverK> omg, FAIL
21:16:42 <TimClark> It would be good if we could get more portable antimalware stuff reallly, CWP is a little limited
21:16:47 <OliverK> CWP sucks
21:16:53 <OliverK> oh well
21:17:04 <OliverK> yeah, more portable antispyware would be nice
21:17:06 <Oni-Neoxes> I would have to agree that CWP isn't as great as the competitors.
21:17:22 <OliverK> but if I'm fixing a machine, they better not grouse about the traces I leave
21:17:45 <OliverK> especially if I do it gratis like I usually end up doing things
21:18:21 <TimClark> I will recommand the new Portable SASW to folks, even if it's not ours, and like I said, I see reasons why we "should not" make one anyway, even if we could
21:18:38 <OliverK> defiantely
21:18:45 <OliverK> heh. I need spell check
21:19:00 <OliverK> definetely
21:19:03 <OliverK> maybe
21:19:47 <TimClark> It's biggest problem is that the package needs to be redownload to update
21:20:19 <Oni-Neoxes> For some reason I am a big fan of viruses and malwares and such, which leads me to test every anti-virus,anti-etc out there.
21:20:25 <Oni-Neoxes> I have also had that problem too TimClark
21:20:37 <TimClark> If you run it and click the update button it only updates the "extracted" version,
21:21:03 <TimClark> the "portable file" will still concatin the version it had when you downloaded it
21:21:23 <TimClark> Oni-Neoxes: it's not really a problem
21:21:42 <TimClark> you just need to get a new copy every few days
21:22:02 <TimClark> it's not ideal, but that's not what they were trying for
21:22:17 <Oni-Neoxes> true
21:22:36 <Oni-Neoxes> can't really speculate a portable version to be ideal to the masses.
21:23:25 <TimClark> It is usefull when your bosses machine is infected and you want to try a few things to clean it up fast
21:23:52 <Oni-Neoxes> yea
21:23:52 <TimClark> been there, done that :P
21:24:12 <Oni-Neoxes> I'm the Virus person at my High school/ Vocational School
21:24:19 <TimClark> especially if the malware stops your internet connection
21:24:31 <Oni-Neoxes> and man have I seen the most epic of viruses.
21:24:37 <Oni-Neoxes> oh yea, hate that kind of virus
21:24:43 <OliverK> i was homeschooled. Now I have internet classes in computers
21:25:07 <OliverK> oh, I think I saw one of those
21:25:17 <OliverK> didn't know what I was doing then. Now I have a better idea :)
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21:43:55 <OliverK> tim! comeback!
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21:44:57 <Oni-Neoxes> hahaha.
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21:47:10 <TimClark> webcrap sux
21:47:12 <OliverK> TIM! Your back! :)
21:47:20 <TimClark> You needed me OliverK ?
21:47:22 <OliverK> lol. Why not use KVIrc?
21:47:23 <Oni-Neoxes> Welcome back TimClark
21:47:31 <OliverK> no, just excited your back :)
21:49:04 <SteveLamerton> TimClark: Very popular it seems!
21:55:25 <gluxon> TimClark: Then why use it?
21:55:51 <TimClark> been discussed many times gluxon
21:58:56 <Oni-Neoxes> whoops
21:59:00 <Oni-Neoxes> sorry about that.
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22:49:41 <sarahL> Hello! I am looking for information on requesting that a specific app be made "portable". Thanks.
22:50:41 <OliverK> heh
22:50:48 <OliverK> make a post int eh request app forum
22:50:59 <OliverK> .g request apps site:portableapps.com
22:51:00 <GizmoBot> OliverK: http://portableapps.com/forums/general/request_apps
22:51:07 <OliverK> there you go :)
22:51:22 <sarahL> Thanks GizmoBot and OliverK for the info! :) Happy Saturday!
22:51:22 <GizmoBot> You're Welcome sarahL!
22:51:31 <OliverK> no prob
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22:51:40 <OliverK> also check out the gorilla guide
22:51:47 <OliverK> .def gorilla guide
22:51:47 <GizmoBot> OliverK: Def manipulation is only allowed in #gizmokid2005, #gizmokid2005-def
22:51:55 <OliverK> .def gorrillaguide
22:51:55 <GizmoBot> OliverK: Sorry, but I don't know about gorrillaguide
22:51:57 <OliverK> meh
22:52:08 <OliverK> .def fieldguide
22:52:08 <GizmoBot> OliverK: Sorry, but I don't know about fieldguide
22:52:17 <OliverK> .def field
22:52:18 <GizmoBot> OliverK: Sorry, but I don't know about field
22:52:20 <OliverK> grawr
22:52:24 <OliverK> stupid GizmoBot
23:14:52 <TimClark> does anyone know where MaienM put the backup copy of the IRC Support page?
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