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00:02:08 <computerfreaker> w00t! Just got Iron portabilized!
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00:02:47 <pa_2300> can you store files and run portable apps from the same flashdrive?
00:02:55 <computerfreaker> yes, that isn't a problem
00:03:01 <pa_2300> thank you
00:03:06 <computerfreaker> np!
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00:05:02 <JohnTHaller> Alright, I must be off. Have a good one, all.
00:05:08 <computerfreaker> bye John!
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00:30:36 <computerfreaker> hum
00:31:11 <computerfreaker> Iron supports a language called "Faroese"; could that be the same thing as "Farsi"?
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01:45:39 <David> anyone free to assist please ?
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01:46:10 <computerfreaker> Sure, what's up?
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01:47:20 <[Davidd]> how do I get portable flash for FF and chrome ?
01:47:56 <computerfreaker> Just a second please, I'm finding the link right now
01:48:49 <computerfreaker> http://portableapps.com/node/13737
01:48:57 <computerfreaker> That should do it for you
01:49:16 <[Davidd]> will it work for chrome ?
01:49:36 <computerfreaker> It should. I haven't tried it, though
01:50:29 <computerfreaker> http://portableapps.com/node/18051#comment-112722
01:50:38 <computerfreaker> That's for Chrome, it looks like almost exactly the same process
01:52:03 <[Davidd]> I tried that once and it didn't work :\
01:52:19 <computerfreaker> are you sure you downloaded the latest Flash plugin?
01:52:20 <[Davidd]> I'll try again now, thanks.
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02:29:15 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 and GEdit Portable! (And Gnumeric Portable) :D
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03:03:01 <gluxon> Chazz_: It's At least call it Gedit.
03:03:54 <OliverK> gluxon: gedit
03:03:59 <OliverK> http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/images/gedit1.png
03:04:35 <gluxon> OliverK: Yeah I know. I asked the people in #gnome and #gnu, both said it was just gedit without caps.
03:04:43 <gluxon> Including admins :/
03:04:54 <OliverK> lols
03:05:01 <OliverK> leave him alone please :)
03:05:04 <gluxon> But it would look weird to have the path like this. [X]:\PortableApps\geditPortable
03:05:13 <OliverK> heh
03:05:17 <OliverK> who cares?
03:05:22 <gluxon> And so would PortableApps\GEditPortable :P
03:05:30 <gluxon> Now... GeditPortable looks nice :D
03:05:33 <OliverK> lol
03:05:53 * OliverK is running his home built geany.exe that he compiled on his own.
03:06:05 <OliverK> with a little bit of help from the fellows in #geany
03:06:10 <gluxon> :P
03:06:19 <gluxon> I want to run a home made Eclipse on day :P
03:06:22 <gluxon> *one
03:08:04 <gluxon> Hm.. Should I be worried about this? :P
03:08:08 <gluxon> When the Program is made available in source code form:
03:08:08 <gluxon> a) it must be made available under this Agreement; and
03:08:21 <gluxon> Part of Eclipse Public License.
03:08:29 <gluxon> But it also says.
03:08:45 <gluxon> A Contributor may choose to distribute the Program in object code form
03:08:45 <gluxon> under its own license agreement, provided that:
03:08:45 <gluxon> a) it complies with the terms and conditions of this Agreement; and
03:08:45 <gluxon> b) its license agreement:
03:09:12 <gluxon> So, does Eclipse Portable have to be EPL and GPL? >_<
03:09:20 <OliverK> don't know
03:17:03 <gluxon> lol :P
03:26:49 <gluxon> OliverK: Busy? Or can you do a quick check on an app for me? :)
03:27:22 <OliverK> what kind of app?
03:27:54 <gluxon> AkelPad Portable :'(
03:28:40 <OliverK> where's it at?
03:28:49 <OliverK> i'm trying to win a book from my teacher right now
03:28:57 <gluxon> Oh.
03:29:00 <gluxon> Finish that first :)
03:29:11 <OliverK> i'm on the right track, I just have to figure out where I'm right and I'm wrong is at
03:29:27 <OliverK> where's it at, its only 9:30 here so maybe I'll have time in a bit
03:30:01 <gluxon> :)
03:30:28 <gluxon> Line 186.
03:30:44 <OliverK> what?
03:30:47 <OliverK> pastebin it
03:30:54 <OliverK> if its a command I can peek at that
03:31:02 <OliverK> i've wasted more time looking at lolcats :)
03:32:46 <gluxon> http://pastebin.com/m57e56709
03:32:52 <gluxon> lol :P
03:33:22 <gluxon> I think you'll recognise this line :P
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03:34:04 <OliverK> what does it do?
03:34:08 <OliverK> or doesn't do?
03:35:06 <gluxon> ${registry::RestoreKey} "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY\${NAME}Settings.reg" "$Error"
03:35:15 <OliverK> yeah, what should it do
03:35:22 <gluxon> Restore the registry key.
03:35:41 <OliverK> i'm looking at code in vti portable and I'm seeing a label that says its for restoring a key on 9x
03:35:43 <gluxon> Merge \Data\Settings\AkelPadPortableSettings.reg into the registry.
03:35:47 <gluxon> :)
03:35:58 <gluxon> It's the same as 7-Zip Portable, don't get what's wrong.
03:36:05 <OliverK> IfFileExists "$WINDIR\system32\reg.exe" "" RestoreTheKey9x
03:36:05 <OliverK> nsExec::ExecToStack `"$WINDIR\system32\reg.exe" import "$SettingsDirectory\VTiPortable.reg"`
03:36:05 <OliverK> Pop $R0
03:36:05 <OliverK> StrCmp $R0 '0' LaunchNow ;successfully restored key
03:36:12 <OliverK> oops, miranda murdered that
03:36:52 <OliverK> that's for stuff like windows 98 and before
03:36:56 <OliverK> not sure where it ends atr
03:36:59 <OliverK> at*
03:37:28 <OliverK> http://oliverkrystal.pastebin.com/m4c3dc042
03:37:29 <OliverK> check that
03:37:33 <gluxon> The Registry Plugin for NSIS mentioned that code.
03:38:39 <gluxon> It said you could do the same thing with regedit and parameters, but I tried that too and it didn't work as well :'(
03:39:26 <gluxon> I'm pretty sure that's basically the same thing as regedit /S $SETITNGSDIRECTORY\AkelPadPortable.reg
03:39:29 <gluxon> though.
03:40:23 <gluxon> 7-Zip uses that as a 2nd attempt if the output for the registry plugin is -1.
03:41:22 <OliverK> it uses that for 9x based systems
03:41:29 <OliverK> what do you mean it didn't work as well?
03:41:45 <OliverK> i've used that code for everything that needed registry access and it worked fine
03:43:06 <Gizmokid2005> anyone recall an app that we have right now that uses cmd line switches in the launcher?
03:43:22 <OliverK> the updator did
03:43:29 <OliverK> oh, the installer as well
03:43:43 <OliverK> shouldm't be hard
03:44:00 <OliverK> ${getparameters} and parse whats coming in
03:44:21 <Gizmokid2005> no
03:44:25 <Gizmokid2005> where the launcher actually sets them.
03:44:29 <Gizmokid2005> an actual app
03:44:34 <OliverK> oh
03:44:37 <OliverK> heh :D
03:44:38 <Gizmokid2005> I was going to say pidgin, but that actually modifies envvars
03:44:40 <OliverK> geany portable
03:44:44 <OliverK> pnotes portable
03:44:45 <OliverK> :)
03:44:48 <Gizmokid2005> bah, thats one I don't have :P
03:44:54 <gluxon> lol :P
03:44:55 <OliverK> geany or pnotes?
03:45:13 <Gizmokid2005> yay, I have pnotes :)
03:56:47 <gluxon> This looks promising :)
03:56:47 <gluxon> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Reg2Nsis_-_convert_registry_info_into_NSIS_commands
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04:52:07 <Horusofoz> Hey all :)
05:03:11 <Horusofoz> Can I ask whether people would recommend using chrome or iron and why? I plan to maintain FF as my prinary but use a chromium derivative as a secondary. Any thoughts would be appreciated :)
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05:43:17 <rouilj1> What is the preferred way of installing a portable java? Use Java_Portablizer_1.1.paf.exe (running standalone and not invoked via the menu's install application), or using Java_Portable_6_Update_18_online.paf.exe?
05:45:08 <OliverK> probably run the portablizer and then the update
05:45:12 <OliverK> but, really, I do not know
05:45:19 <OliverK> try running the update first :)
05:45:34 <OliverK> if it doesn't work, run portabilizer 1.1 and the the update :D
05:49:33 <rouilj1> thanks for the thoughts. I did run the portabilizer from the menu originally and ended up with a broken install (it was put into portableapps/javaportabilizer and not into portableapps/common/java like it should have been). Since I had a java 6.18 installed on my system that's what it ended up portabilizing.
05:50:58 <rouilj1> so I have a working install currently (after manually running the portabiliizer) at 6.18 I am just wondering for future releases (or creating an install on a host without java installed)
05:51:08 <rouilj1> which is preferred.
06:06:23 <ChrisMorgan> NO
06:06:36 <ChrisMorgan> Java Portable is the only way you should do it now.
06:06:40 <OliverK> well, that's abrupt
06:06:52 <ChrisMorgan> 6 Update 18 is the Java version number
06:07:15 <ChrisMorgan> For some strange reason, Java can't just call their releases "6.0.18", they have to call them "6.0 Update 18"
06:08:00 <ChrisMorgan> The portablizer copied a local instance to the USB disk. That method is now deprecated.
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19:17:01 <Spaceghost> hi
19:17:24 <Spaceghost> the google chrome 4.0 stable isn't availible on portableapps.com, no?
19:18:21 <NiveusLuna> there's a 4.0 stable? i thought it was still in beta
19:20:46 <gluxon> Spaceghost: The portable version for Google Chrome 4.0 is done, but still undergoing some testing.
19:20:52 <Spaceghost> ok
19:20:58 <gluxon> You can get it here.
19:20:59 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/node/22324
19:21:03 <Spaceghost> ohh
19:21:07 <Spaceghost> thanks gluxon
19:21:08 <gluxon> There's been no problems so far though.
19:21:15 <gluxon> You welcome :)
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19:21:52 <Spaceghost> the extensions, themes and other plugins of chrome, will be save on the /Data folder?
19:23:42 <NiveusLuna> oh good. i can finally get portable chrome with adblock.
19:24:51 <gluxon> Spaceghost: It should. :)
19:25:10 <Spaceghost> AdBlock? or AdThwart?
19:25:23 <gluxon> I'm not sure, since I've never tried any of those.
19:26:00 <Spaceghost> the upgrades by google, are disabled in the portableapp's version?
19:26:00 <NiveusLuna> adblock
19:26:37 <Spaceghost> I read that the navigator check in the google servers for upgrades, and download it automactlly
19:27:08 <Spaceghost> automatically
19:27:52 <gluxon> Spaceghost: I'm not sure, sorry.
19:27:52 <Spaceghost> have another problems with privacy that probaly the better will be disabled it?
19:29:04 <Spaceghost> thanks anyway
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19:43:47 <Spaceghost> the portableapp's webpage have manuals for learn how work the portable, and other uses that I can do with it? for example, the cache will save where? and another things that suggest to save on HDD and no in my pendrive??
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19:54:16 <NiveusLuna> ahh, that's why i didn't know chrome 4.0 was out for windows. i haven't booted into windows for a while and linux chrome 4 is still in beta.
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22:39:15 <MaienM> whats up with the double quits -_-
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23:06:11 <JohnTHaller> hi all
23:06:18 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
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23:06:19 <gluxon> Hi John :)
23:06:28 <JohnTHaller> some freenode issues today, eh?
23:06:53 <gluxon> Yeah :P
23:07:12 <MaienM> as usual lately :(
23:07:14 <gluxon> I think I had op for a while :P Either that, or Pidgin's not working correctly :P
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23:08:03 <gluxon> (5:58:50 PM) #portableapps: mode (-o gluxon ) by services. :P
23:08:08 <MaienM> if you joined a server that was split from the services and to which no one else connected to this server was connected, then yes, that'd be possible
23:08:19 <MaienM> *no one else on this channel
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23:30:22 <Spaceghost> why nothing KDE app is in portable apps? the project for KDE on windows have some apps very stable and useful
23:30:49 <OliverK> no one has shown interest in them yet
23:30:56 <JohnTHaller> Most of KDE on windows involves installing the huge KDE environment first and then apps on top of that. It's not portable
23:30:59 <OliverK> or no one has the time to work on them
23:31:17 <JohnTHaller> Most GTK apps are self-contained and stable and have large user-bases already.
23:35:05 <JohnTHaller> To be honest, I don't think KDE apps on Windows will catch on unless they divorce themselves from the idea of having the huge KDE install and having to use the KDE installer. Sure, existing KDE users will do it. But no one is gonna go through all that to try out one app.
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