IRC Log from 2010-02-05
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03:17:22 <ChrisMorgan> ugh, forums.
03:17:29 <ChrisMorgan> The PortableApps.com one is by far the best I've ever used.
03:17:50 <ChrisMorgan> They're always (excepted: portableapps.com, bpbible.com) so cluttered.
03:18:13 <Gizmokid2005> but but but..that's a good way to fix your issue :P
03:18:31 <ChrisMorgan> I doubt it. I don't believe it's possible at all.
03:18:33 <Gizmokid2005> honestly, I'm not a fan of PA.c's forums. I just miss the lack of...functionality/customizability.
03:18:47 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: then you'd have an actual answer one way or the other
03:19:14 <ChrisMorgan> Lack of functionality/customizability!? I'd call it lack of useless clutter myself :-)
03:19:22 * ChrisMorgan likes Drupal forums
03:20:04 <Gizmokid2005> I don't like the fact that the search pretty much fails...the fact that you can't customize the look/feel (ie - number of posts per page, whether or not it's flat, the reply notification, etc)
03:20:10 <Gizmokid2005> I'm talking about standard stuff in /most/ other forums
03:20:25 <Gizmokid2005> They're good in their own right, sure...but that's stuff I very much miss.
03:21:06 <ChrisMorgan> Posts/page is not all that common that I've seen. Not-flat view is just not there in most. Reply notification is there with other modules (or your own user tracker, but then not by email)
03:21:55 <ChrisMorgan> Actually, I may just go with the SimpleSC plug-in for services. According to its thread it supports multiple services with a forward slash. Changing that to a null byte must happen in the plug-in where it can actually work with the null byte...
03:22:07 <Gizmokid2005> I don't know what forums you've frequented...but phpBB and VBulletin both are flat forums by default and both allow email notifications of replies in MANY fashions. As well as a user customizable posts/page and age limits
03:22:43 <ChrisMorgan> I prefer non-flat forums
03:23:01 <ChrisMorgan> Ah well.
03:23:11 <ChrisMorgan> Looks like ServiceSC it will be.
03:23:14 * ZachThibeau says phpBB FTW
03:23:21 * ZachThibeau runs and hides
03:23:29 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: you'd better ;-)
03:23:42 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005 is on my side :D
03:23:45 <ChrisMorgan> Pity. I was enjoying myself doing Windows API calls with System::Call and learning more about it.
03:23:57 <ZachThibeau> fellow phpBB fellow user he is :D
03:24:05 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: me too, when I have to.
03:24:20 <Gizmokid2005> that's really not even my biggest qualm. That's just how I feel personally. And I've wound up using a lot of different forums.
03:24:38 <ZachThibeau> here is my best board ever :) http://pchat-irc.com/forum/index.php
03:24:41 <ChrisMorgan> And also I like avoiding using plug-ins in NSIS if it's practical (i.e. no significant loss of speed) because they're smaller and intrinsically more portable (no need to clear NSIS code up after running it...)
03:25:51 <Gizmokid2005> well I'm off to bed now. Turning in a bit early.
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03:26:20 <ChrisMorgan> Bye
03:26:30 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: *sigh* pch.at is already registered
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03:28:36 <ZachThibeau> yeah well I'm more of a .com user anyways (I would be .ca but thats extra :/)
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03:40:58 <ChrisMorgan> pokemonnarutofan: can we help you with anything?
03:47:06 <pokemonnarutofan> no sorry not right now just wanted to add this for the future
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03:58:01 <ChrisMorgan> Backup and restore of services could be messy. Maybe I will register an account and see what they reckon there. I could do it by renaming the registry key, but I don't know how I'd do the status update...
03:58:19 <OliverK> don't play in the registry :p
03:58:23 <OliverK> its a nasty mess
03:58:38 <OliverK> there's some helper apps from windows. You'd probably be better off using those
03:58:38 <ChrisMorgan> Services live in the registry
03:58:49 <ChrisMorgan> There are advapi32 DLL calls available.
03:58:53 <OliverK> regserv something or other
03:59:20 <ChrisMorgan> The thing is there may be extra things which SimpleSC can't cope with, advanced service tweaking options. Wouldn't want to damage a local service.
03:59:39 <ChrisMorgan> So I thought it might work if I could rename the registry key and rename back rather than saving the data and recreating the service afterwards.
03:59:41 <OliverK> if theres a local version, you don't register your own
03:59:52 <ChrisMorgan> Normally you won't but sometimes you may.
04:00:06 <ChrisMorgan> I've got an IfExists=skip|replace (default skip) value.
04:00:15 <ChrisMorgan> replace currently just tells you that it's not implemented.
04:00:46 <OliverK> i think its more then should be messed with
04:00:57 <ChrisMorgan> Probably.
04:01:01 <ChrisMorgan> At the moment anyhow.
04:01:03 <OliverK> the only thing like that that I can think of is virtual box
04:01:11 <OliverK> you have to have concurrent file formats
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04:01:28 <OliverK> so, either the person admining the computer will thank youfor letting them know about the update
04:01:40 <OliverK> or tell you that they are using that version for a specific reason. At either point
04:01:54 <OliverK> you just have to match the portable w/ whats available
04:02:12 <OliverK> i mean, you'd have to be admin to begin with
04:02:41 <ChrisMorgan> Naturally
04:03:13 <ChrisMorgan> A version comparison was something I've thought about, but I'm not doing it yet.
04:03:43 <OliverK> i'd leave it alone for now
04:03:56 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
04:03:59 <OliverK> focuse on getting the uni being able to do everything that the custom ones do now
04:04:07 <OliverK> then, worry about bringing in new features
04:04:12 <OliverK> run stable and dev, methinks
04:04:40 <ChrisMorgan> Gets a bit messy. I will be saying that support for services and drivers is not yet recommended for production use.
04:04:55 <OliverK> so put it in the dev line
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04:05:00 <OliverK> run stable a 5.2
04:05:04 <OliverK> and dev as 5.3
04:05:12 <OliverK> anything odd is dev
04:05:15 <OliverK> and even is stable
04:05:18 <OliverK> like perl does
04:05:27 <ChrisMorgan> But it's done in chunks enough that it doesn't matter about services not being ready. Services can't damage the rest of the launcher.
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04:06:20 <OliverK> heh
04:07:00 <ChrisMorgan> Currently I'm not ready to do two branches. I may soon though.
04:07:11 <OliverK> its not to branches
04:07:15 <OliverK> two*
04:07:40 <ChrisMorgan> Why not? That's the way you'd do it in Mercurial.
04:08:25 <OliverK> fine
04:08:30 <OliverK> i don't know about mercurial
04:08:33 <OliverK> i don't use vcs
04:08:49 <ChrisMorgan> For anything like this, it's great.
04:09:02 <ChrisMorgan> My productivity has increased an enormous amount.
04:09:03 <OliverK> heh, I keep it on my flash drive
04:09:07 <OliverK> and the old installers
04:09:13 <OliverK> i can get source from them
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04:09:25 <ChrisMorgan> If you need them. I prefer a proper version control system.
04:09:26 <OliverK> i'm sure its great, but its not something I have to learn
04:09:57 <ChrisMorgan> I've got a complete rewrite of variable replacement that I'd started on on my "dev" branch which has since become completely obsolete as a lot has changed in the rest of the launcher. The new way, rather than using ${StrReplace} or any similar function, on a specified set of values, uses ExpandEnvStrings.
04:11:02 <ChrisMorgan> You'll have %PortableApps.comDataDirectory% or something like that. What's more, /any/ environment variable can then be used. So if you happen to need to replace %BZR_HOME% with %PortableApps.comDataDirectory%\settings in some file for some strange reason, you can do it.
04:11:15 <ChrisMorgan> It should also be much faster.
04:11:27 <ChrisMorgan> And the code will be a lot cleaner too.
04:11:30 <ChrisMorgan> Smaller, cleaner, faster.
04:11:35 <ChrisMorgan> And more powerful.
04:11:42 * ChrisMorgan wonders how soon it will be before he rewrites the launcher in C
04:11:43 <OliverK> with mercurial? I doubt it
04:11:50 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: the Launcher, not mercurial
04:12:01 <OliverK> and we were talking about the launcher when . . .
04:12:10 <OliverK> last I knew we were on mercurial
04:12:29 <ChrisMorgan> Uh oh :D
04:12:48 <OliverK> i went to sleep at 3 3:30 this morning
04:12:58 <OliverK> got up at about 9:00
04:13:07 <OliverK> is 22:15 now
04:14:51 <ChrisMorgan> That doesn't sound very sensible. Go to bed!
04:14:55 <OliverK> hehe
04:15:00 <OliverK> yeah, I'm getting there
04:21:28 <JohnTHaller1> Hi all
04:21:35 <OliverK> how JohnTHaller1
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04:21:47 <OliverK> well
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04:22:09 <OliverK> welcome back :)
04:22:33 <JohnTHaller> that's better
04:22:47 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I think I should make another release of the PortableApps.com Launcher about now.
04:23:01 <JohnTHaller> Ok. Call it alpha 2 :-)
04:23:07 <JohnTHaller> And I'll make fixes on that.
04:23:27 <ChrisMorgan> OK.
04:23:34 <ChrisMorgan> Pre-Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 3 :D
04:23:42 <JohnTHaller> BTW - What are you using plugin-wise? Have you checked out NSIS Unicode Portable in the current release? Many of the plugins we normally use for launchers are working now.
04:23:43 <ChrisMorgan> Gamma 4, Delta 5, Epsilon 6...
04:23:53 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't looked at NSIS Unicode.
04:24:03 <ChrisMorgan> I was wondering whether it'd fix my null-byte issue.
04:24:13 <ChrisMorgan> I've just given up on it now and am using SimpleSC.
04:24:25 <ChrisMorgan> So: beyond the NSIS Portable plugins, UAC and SimpleSC.
04:24:50 <ChrisMorgan> "PortableApps.com Launcher Epsilon 6" has a certain ring to it.
04:25:50 <JohnTHaller> So we'd need simplesc and uac added to nsis unicode?
04:26:18 <OliverK> ds9 :)
04:26:18 <JohnTHaller> I'm thinking we should start switching over to Unicode sooner rather than later to support more of the languages people want.
04:26:50 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah
04:26:52 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: ?
04:27:00 <OliverK> deep space 8
04:27:04 <OliverK> star trek reference
04:27:12 <ChrisMorgan> :-/
04:27:53 <ChrisMorgan> It's a pity, using SimpleSC rather than NSIS code, you know. I was enjoying learning more about the System plug-in and the Windows API. I was actually understanding most of it now.
04:28:27 <JohnTHaller> Does SimpleSC offer a lot over the WInAPI calls?
04:29:03 <ChrisMorgan> Multiple dependencies.
04:29:35 <ChrisMorgan> Dependencies is a double-null-terminated null-separated character array, but NSIS can't handle the null byte at all.
04:30:03 <ChrisMorgan> And also, it's all already been done, which can help a bit.
04:30:07 <ChrisMorgan> At times.
04:30:17 <ChrisMorgan> Overall I would have preferred to stay with NSIS code though I think.
04:30:23 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I hear ya. Is SimpleSC C++?
04:30:26 <ChrisMorgan> It's more likely to be broken though.
04:30:31 <ChrisMorgan> Not sure
04:30:41 <ChrisMorgan> Merely because I'm not able to test every little thing with services.
04:30:58 <ChrisMorgan> And as for replacing a local service of the same name, I'm not certain how I want to approach that yet.
04:31:39 <JohnTHaller> Maybe we should nix services in the launcher itself for now. It's a *seriously* outlier case. We're better served by properly handling the 99% of apps that don't need it atm, I'd say.
04:31:56 <ChrisMorgan> Oh yeah, quite so. It's fun though :-)
04:31:59 <ChrisMorgan> (Tut tut)
04:32:12 <JohnTHaller> Focus our energies on the most important stuff. Hitting 1.0 is far more important than services :-P
04:32:30 <JohnTHaller> So regarding UAC, what are we using that for in the launcher atm? Just apps that require admin?
04:32:31 <ChrisMorgan> (a) just don't support it (may break some programs with a different version installed locally or with some settings not set in the service or something), (b) get what we can, delete and recreate - may ruin some services completely, (c) rename in the registry and hope for the best
04:32:58 <ChrisMorgan> Not sure what JkDefrag does. I expect it's probably RequestExecutionLevel admin
04:33:19 <ChrisMorgan> What the launcher does is some work with the UAC plug-in when [Launch]:RunAsAdmin=try|force
04:33:24 <JohnTHaller> Leave it off entirely on services. We really don't need it.
04:33:54 <ChrisMorgan> Page 3 of the SimpleSC forum thread mentions unicode
04:34:05 <JohnTHaller> Hmm. Some apps require admin to work at all (JkDefrag). Some only for specific features (Wireshark, installing the WInPCap driver).
04:34:13 <JohnTHaller> Let's do a road map.
04:34:38 <JohnTHaller> Get UAC into 1.1. Services into 1.2. ANd focus on regular apps now.
04:34:41 <ChrisMorgan> SimpleSC is not available as unicode at the moment. I could probably fix that but I'm sure jimpark would do better.
04:34:51 <ChrisMorgan> UAC is in already and should (should) be perfect.
04:34:58 <ChrisMorgan> Services are definitely not ready.
04:35:00 <JohnTHaller> But it can't go unicode, right?
04:35:04 <ChrisMorgan> Don't know
04:35:14 <JohnTHaller> Unicode > UAC I'd argue
04:35:42 <JohnTHaller> Since Unicode may bork some path when we do string replacements and stuff. And we now have a lot more unicode users
04:36:19 <ChrisMorgan> Currently I don't have strings for the launcher in any unicode-language
04:36:40 <ChrisMorgan> NSIS just turns unicode paths into 8.3 and in theory then works fine.
04:36:54 <JohnTHaller> No no. I mean when we're dealing with path strings. ANd manipulating them. Or doing text replace inside text files (which are becoming unicode more often now)
04:36:55 <ChrisMorgan> Though you're right that string replacements won't follow through
04:37:44 <JohnTHaller> That's why I'd like to get unicode through in the launcher sooner than later.
04:38:07 <JohnTHaller> Anyway. Priority one is getting it to work with the majority of our apps we've done so we can start replacing bits.
04:38:17 <ChrisMorgan> Oh yeah, UAC has unicode
04:38:22 <JohnTHaller> Coolo
04:38:24 <ChrisMorgan> I forgot. It's right there in what you download.
04:38:40 <ChrisMorgan> The best support I've seen yet for NSISu.
04:38:45 <JohnTHaller> Nice.
04:39:51 <JohnTHaller> So let's focus on that first. And unicode. BTW - I was reconsidering your original mention about the options for the launcher. The user ones, I mean. I think perhaps keeping them as matching the launcher EXE makes more sense. So AppNamePortable.exe looks for AppNamePortable.ini. For backwards compatibility at least. What do you think?
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04:41:34 <ChrisMorgan> I think that I've already changed it to PortableApps.comLauncher.ini... hmm.
04:41:42 <ChrisMorgan> Probably.
04:41:52 <JohnTHaller> Oh did you? When last we chatted, I thouht it was PortableApps.comLauncher.ini
04:42:07 <ChrisMorgan> That's what I said
04:42:46 <JohnTHaller> Hehe, sorry. Bit distracted.
04:42:50 <ChrisMorgan> [${GetBaseName} $EXEFILE].ini would mean people could copy FirefoxPortable.exe to FirefoxPortable2.exe and have it use FirefoxPortable2.ini
04:43:01 <ChrisMorgan> What do you reckon, get it from the filename or AppID?
04:43:33 <ChrisMorgan> We could also have the launcher or installer rename $AppID.ini to PortableApps.comLauncher.ini.
04:43:36 <JohnTHaller> Stick with AppID, I guess that makes sense.
04:43:49 <ChrisMorgan> That would handle the migration path so they don't use their probably-useless settings
04:43:56 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, that's true, too. But custom code... or actually, it could be automatic.
04:44:06 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. true
04:45:59 <ChrisMorgan> It could be just one of those bits of code that you leave in for all time so people can upgrade from their 2009 applications to the new 2053 applications...
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04:51:45 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. Maybe we should have a cut from the old INI to the new one. Or not, since the only INI option most folks want is the bit about disabling the splash.
04:54:01 <ChrisMorgan> Probably. If it makes people notice the shiny new launchers, great :D
04:54:22 <ChrisMorgan> It might make them notice that there are only a couple of entries in the file now as well.
04:58:36 <JohnTHaller> Also true. Well, post where you are now. I should have time later tomorrow. Got a conference call and a sick kitty to worry about.
05:08:18 <ChrisMorgan> We've had a very hungry cat adopting us over the past couple of days. We've seen it around our property for a few weeks, then on Wednesday it came out to meet us as we said goodbye to our grandparents. It led us to the front door... I think that it's spent most of it's time since then sitting on our doormat, occasionally being given some milk. It was quite weak and very thin.
05:08:25 <ChrisMorgan> Thinnest cat I've ever seen.
05:08:37 <OliverK> so, lay out some food
05:08:46 <OliverK> it'll eat up
05:08:50 <OliverK> maybe it'll leave
05:08:52 <OliverK> maybe it won't
05:09:03 <OliverK> i have one that lives in the barn sometimes
05:09:27 <OliverK> haven't seen him for a few days. He got cold, so he roomed in the barn. We layed out some food. He's gone right now though
05:09:55 <JohnTHaller> This one we adopted from a friend who found it in PA. Kitten. Has FeLV so the friend can't keep it with their cats. Leo. It looks like he has lymphoma now, though.
05:10:09 <OliverK> ouch
05:10:12 <OliverK> sorry to here
05:11:09 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. We'll know tomorrow. Gonna do some simple cheap at home drugs. They say it can give him up to a year. We only expected another 2 or so anyway (due to the FeLV). But it's still tough since he's a part of the household now. And insanely purry.
05:11:23 <OliverK> i know
05:11:56 <JohnTHaller> alreight, i must be off to bed. gnight all.
05:12:03 <OliverK> night
05:12:21 <ChrisMorgan> It does eat it. Seeing as it's not been picky, it must be /very/ hungry...
05:15:39 <ChrisMorgan> So... what was it I need to do before releasing PortableApps.com Launcher Alpha 2?
05:17:04 <JohnTHaller> Heh. I think you're good just fixing the current bugs for now. We'll make the transition to unicode with beta 2 or something./
05:22:10 <ChrisMorgan> So I'll stick with PortableApps.comLauncher.*?
05:22:34 <JohnTHaller> AppID.ini for now I think makes more sense. And is a one-line fix, no?
05:23:42 <ChrisMorgan> Almost
05:24:04 <ChrisMorgan> What about the executable name though? AppID.exe?
05:24:22 <ChrisMorgan> I'm bearing in mind in particular the task management question which was raised.
05:28:10 <JohnTHaller> Let it be renamed. We'll use AppID.exe by default for all releases since it makes the most sense.
05:29:14 <ChrisMorgan> OK
05:31:28 <JohnTHaller> alright. gnight man
05:31:41 <ChrisMorgan> Bye.
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05:37:15 <ChrisMorgan> Release coming up.
05:46:13 <OliverK> night all
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05:46:26 <ChrisMorgan> Hey, Chrome actually tells you its progress uploading a file... finally a browser did it!
06:02:41 <ChrisMorgan> RELEASE: PortableApps.com Launcher 1.0 Alpha 2: http://portableapps.com/node/22364
06:03:39 <Bensawsome> nice
06:06:43 <ChrisMorgan> What now?
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06:57:48 <ChrisMorgan> *Ahhhhh*
06:58:05 <ChrisMorgan> You know how we've done things like System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("TEMP", "$TEMPDIRECTORY").r2'?
06:58:28 <ChrisMorgan> System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariable(t"TEMP", t"$TEMPDIRECTORY")' is so much simpler... and unicode-ready.
06:58:55 <ChrisMorgan> Our CreateMutexA was also slightly over-complex
06:59:57 <ChrisMorgan> Who said System::Call had to be nasty?
07:04:11 <rmccue> Me.
07:04:17 <ChrisMorgan> GRR!
07:04:20 <ChrisMorgan> You're wrong :-)
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07:05:24 <rmccue> :P
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07:14:45 <pa_6384> hello
07:15:06 <pa_6384> is anyone here?
07:15:49 <pa_6384> ????????????????????????????
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07:54:29 <pa_6461> hello, am not seeing other contact so will pos here. Malwarebytes found a malware inside of the Kompozer. maybe a FP. I do not know which version of Kompozwer that was, probably around 4 months old - as i have saiod, i have deleted it. here are some details: KompoZerPortable\App\kompozer\msvcr70.dll (Malware.Packer.Gen) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully, and MBN version: Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 1.44 Wersja bazy de
07:57:41 <Horusofoz> There was a recent revision to Kompozer Portable with the latest installer which you may want to try. Still rest assured this would be a false positive as official PA software is tested using virustotal.com by John T. Haller before being released.
08:01:04 <pa_6461> thank you, by
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08:09:50 <ChrisMorgan> KompoZer has been flagged with false positives a number of times.
08:10:01 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Horusofoz, haven't seen you around for a while
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08:12:03 <Horusofoz> ChrisMorgan: Hey Chris. Been enjoying holidays and pursuing some projects. With college back on Monday I'll be back on the PC a fair bit and consequently showing up more often :)
08:12:18 <Horusofoz> Hope you've kept well
08:13:19 <ChrisMorgan> I think I have
08:24:27 * ChrisMorgan wishes he could sort out this shlwapi buffers business
08:28:15 * Horusofoz wonders WTH shlwapi buffers are
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08:30:58 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: some time ago, I was working on a way to complete relative paths given on the command line, with shlwapi::PathCombine. However, I haven't come across these string buffers and pointers before with System::Call, and I'm stuck :-(
08:32:06 <ChrisMorgan> markomlm: there are a few more strings in the PortableApps.com Launcher to translate into German if you'd like to
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08:58:36 <ChrisMorgan> I think I give up with shlwapi::PathCombine and shlwapi::PathAppend :-(
10:04:44 <ChrisMorgan> Unfortunately, I had not fully investigated the core command GetFullPathName. It does what I wanted.
10:08:53 <ChrisMorgan> And so, http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/launcher/rev/dd677d993846
10:09:00 <ChrisMorgan> *Sigh* that was a waste of time.
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10:12:58 <GizmoBot> sar3th is currently busy with KDE for Windows (Portable)
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10:22:28 <Horusofoz> sar3th: I'm pretty sure ChrisMorgan was previously interested in KDE Portable for Windows. May be worth talking to him about what your doing when next your both in.
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11:25:04 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
11:25:49 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: I was the one that suggested to sar3th to do KDE Portable, because he has experience and practice with C++ and Qt
11:28:28 <Horusofoz> :D my bad. At least you know there is one user waiting to see if anythong comes from it :)
11:28:44 <ChrisMorgan> Yep :-)
11:28:52 <ChrisMorgan> John was also in on the discussion a few days ago.
11:29:08 <ChrisMorgan> It really comes in its own special category.
11:39:19 <ChrisMorgan> Goodnight.
11:40:06 <ChrisMorgan> Don't think I'll get anything done on the PortableApps.com Launcher this weekend. But Alpha 2 should be enough to tide you over till next week :-)
11:40:58 <ChrisMorgan> Use it; test it; please!
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13:06:15 <rcmaehl> Hello
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13:47:32 <pa_6226> hello all
13:47:40 <pa_6226> can I ask a question?
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16:11:58 <pa_7255> hello
16:12:37 <pa_7255> I need help configuring a portable I am trying to make
16:13:28 <pa_7255> the application creates a string of folders within folders in the userprofile\appdata folder
16:13:49 <pa_7255> and my launcher cant remove after backup
16:14:32 <pa_7255> is there any way to move the folder then delete it to shorten the path length?
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17:16:14 <pa_6604> I am not able to uninstall the portable apps suite from my pendrive
17:16:34 <pa_6604> What should I do?
17:17:29 <pa_6604> Help!
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17:22:41 <pa_3929> Help!
17:23:23 <pa_3929> Hello???
17:25:36 <pa_3929> Am leaving
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