IRC Log from 2010-02-07
00:05:42 <TimClark> gluxon: JTH has given the best advice of all, " Let It go"
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01:26:00 <ZachThibeau> howdy Tim
01:34:08 <TimClark> Hello ZachThibeau , sorry for the delay, as you did not use my full nick I did not know he had spoken to me
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01:51:59 <ZachThibeau> TimClark: sorry for my delay :P was coding some more bug fixes into PChat and adding some useful features to improve end users experience :)
01:52:37 <TimClark> no problem
01:52:56 <ZachThibeau> so how have you been?
01:53:11 <TimClark> Fine, and yourself?
01:53:19 <ZachThibeau> ohh not too bad actually
01:54:26 <ZachThibeau> been trying to keep busy
01:54:59 <ZachThibeau> I think thus far PChat is my first serious project as a programmer
01:57:09 <TimClark> So none of your other projects have been serious ?
01:58:01 <TimClark> You've started quite a few for them to not be serious don't you think?
02:00:35 <ZachThibeau> well I mean my projects are more or less pet projects, like stuff I do when I'm bored but PChat is the one that finally has my focus
02:01:22 <TimClark> Does tha mean you will drop IceCrap :P
02:01:36 <ZachThibeau> no :P
02:01:44 <TimClark> too bad :/
02:01:55 <ZachThibeau> there is nothing wrong with IceCat
02:02:12 <TimClark> I see it as nothing but a FF rip off with no added benefit
02:02:14 <ZachThibeau> and there is nothing wrong with providing users a choice either
02:02:27 <ZachThibeau> then you don't see what it truely is
02:02:40 <TimClark> They take Mozilla's work, and then try to make them look bad.
02:03:01 <ZachThibeau> thats not what they do
02:03:17 <TimClark> Ok, they give you NOTHING, they just say, were not as CLOSED as FF :-/
02:03:30 <ZachThibeau> in fact they still promote the use of firefox, I've been following their mailing list and it's nothing like that
02:03:31 <TimClark> we're*
02:03:42 <TimClark> ok, if you say so
02:03:59 <TimClark> I'd rather use the real FF
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02:04:35 <ZachThibeau> well thats your choice then
02:05:25 <TimClark> Anyway, good luck ith PChat
02:05:29 <ZachThibeau> thanks
02:05:39 <TimClark> why "P"
02:06:58 <TimClark> I am glad you took john's advice and cleaned up the topic by the way
02:07:44 <ZachThibeau> P well P is choose as Portable bother Operating system and Portable in PortableApps.com :)
02:08:45 <ZachThibeau> PChat is intended to replace XChat in the portable listing and actually John liked my idea of forking xchat too (don't know if he still does but at the time about a year ago he did)
02:08:52 <TimClark> ahh, and I thought you would call it "Z"chat :P
02:09:00 * OliverK|Away wished he had
02:09:08 <OliverK|Away> oh well :p
02:09:18 <OliverK|Away> or IRChat :p
02:09:20 <ZachThibeau> lol well I already have the domain picked :P
02:09:23 <TimClark> go /away OliverK|Away :P
02:09:24 <ZachThibeau> pchat-irc.com ;)
02:09:53 <ZachThibeau> well I got to submit my latest changes to my svn repo
02:10:15 <ZachThibeau> made some more progress in changing to gnutls
02:10:20 <OliverK|Away> hehe
02:10:21 <ZachThibeau> for ssl connections
02:10:24 <OliverK|Away> TimClark: never!
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03:23:39 <mibbit0245> So um I was wondering, you know how PA's platform puts "Documents" folder on your drive and through an .ini changes the folder icon, well how could one perhaps do that with other folders they wanted to change using that icon?
03:26:04 <TimClark> you would create an .ini in the folder you want
03:26:20 <TimClark> and have a similar path to the icon you want
03:26:56 <TimClark> [.ShellClassInfo]
03:27:46 <TimClark> IconFile=PathToIconFile\IconFile.ico/dll
03:28:03 <TimClark> IconIndex=number of the icon
03:29:19 <mibbit0245> Well I want to use the same documents icon that PA uses
03:29:39 <mibbit0245> But creating a desktop.ini doesn't seem to work
03:30:01 <TimClark> have you made it a system file ?
03:30:02 <mibbit0245> can each icon only be used once?
03:30:05 <mibbit0245> Yep
03:30:42 <mibbit0245> [.ShellClassInfo]
03:30:56 <mibbit0245> And I copied the icon path
03:31:14 <TimClark> try putting it on the save level as the Documents directory with the exact same path first
03:31:29 <TimClark> same level *
03:32:16 <mibbit0245> im not sure im following ya
03:32:53 <TimClark> what is the full path to the directory you want to use
03:34:35 <mibbit0245> I found a work around
03:35:23 <TimClark> good for you
03:35:59 <TimClark> and what was it, if I may ask?
03:36:18 <mibbit0245> Cut the folder on to your desktop, use Win to change "
03:36:23 <mibbit0245> "custom" icon of the folder
03:36:36 <mibbit0245> it creates the Desktop.ini. and then just cut + paste back into your drive
03:36:47 <TimClark> good for you
03:36:50 <mibbit0245> It might not stick, but we'll see
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04:16:25 <mibbit_chat_315> I had one other question ..
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04:27:11 <mibbit_chat_315> Oh whoops
04:28:08 <mibbit_chat_315> So what I was going to ask was when PA updates Chrome to the latest stable 4.0 which allows for extensions bookmark sync etc.
04:28:42 <mibbit_chat_315> If you use the 3rd party Google Chrome Backup utilty to back up your profile will you be able to transfer your profile to the portable chrome version
04:28:53 <mibbit_chat_315> or will it being portable cause an issue with that
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18:59:52 <Gizmokid2005> RELEASED: KVIrc Portable 4r3930 RC2 Dev Test 10: http://portableapps.com/node/18626
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21:18:20 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
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21:24:37 <rcmaehl> What is with the OpenOffice App being so big?
21:24:51 <rcmaehl> can't they atleast remove a few features?
21:25:33 <Bensawsome> no
21:25:47 <Bensawsome> portableapps.com doesnt modify the original app files in any way
21:25:52 <Bensawsome> they only make launchers
21:26:25 <rcmaehl> I know, but can't you guys atleast /recommend/ some stuff
21:27:56 <Bensawsome> no
21:28:02 <Bensawsome> cause that means less features for everyone
21:28:16 <Bensawsome> the point of this is to have all the features of ms office
21:28:19 <Bensawsome> make it better
21:28:43 <rcmaehl> as in telling/showing the users how to make it smaller, if the user wants
21:31:39 <Bensawsome> that would make you have to recompile it which i dlont think 99% of users would do
21:32:02 * rcmaehl would
21:32:29 <ptmb> you're not 99% of the users
21:32:53 <rcmaehl> I'm in a minor majority
21:34:22 <Bensawsome> no your in a minor minority
21:39:41 * rcmaehl is not going to argue... he doesn't want to start something
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21:45:02 <sar3th> if you want to use your custom build rcmaehl, do it; we dunno how :P
21:46:07 * rcmaehl deletes the help files b/c he already read them (:D + 25MB give or take 10mb)
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22:18:33 <rouilj> btw: www.mmfail.co.cc has expired ( ~ 2010-01-26)
22:19:21 <rcmaehl> ?
22:19:57 <Bensawsome> crud
22:20:49 <rcmaehl> rouilj: is that portableapps's. .co.cc address?
22:21:26 <Bensawsome> ok fixed rouilj
22:21:35 <Bensawsome> but it will take a few hours for it to go through
22:21:53 <rcmaehl> Bensawsome 72 on average
22:23:28 <rouilj> responding to the: GizmoBot: MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
22:23:45 <rouilj> above. no clue what the url is except that gizmobot seems to want to tell people about it.
22:23:51 <Bensawsome> thanks though for reminding me rouilj :)
22:23:54 <Bensawsome> oh
22:23:58 <Bensawsome> its a greet message
22:24:01 <Bensawsome> for example
22:24:03 <Bensawsome> this is mine
22:24:05 <Bensawsome> .def Bensawsome
22:24:05 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
22:24:21 <rouilj> what flavor waffles?
22:24:25 <Bensawsome> lol
22:24:26 <rouilj> 8-)
22:24:29 <Bensawsome> all types!
22:24:29 <Bensawsome> lol
22:24:58 * rouilj partial to chocolate waffles w/ chocolate chips.
22:26:02 <Bensawsome> lol
22:31:17 <Mir> http://www.sharenator.org/If_browsers_were_women/
22:49:06 <sar3th> Mir: welcome back to life!
22:49:09 <sar3th> and old, but lol
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23:07:38 * Mir noms sar3th a bit
23:07:53 <Mir> i have always been around
23:07:59 <sar3th> you never talked
23:08:12 <Mir> just idling or dealing with the other 28 channels i am on on this server
23:08:17 <Mir> 8D
23:08:38 <Mir> thats because people are touchy about talking on this channel
23:08:41 <Mir> ;>.>
23:09:06 <Mir> GizmoBot!
23:09:06 <GizmoBot> Mir!
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23:24:26 <TimClark> Mir: it's that people are "touchy" about talking crap in this channel
23:25:37 <TimClark> you last link for example could have at least have been in -ot :/
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23:42:51 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: i see a new update for KVIrc Portable
23:44:46 <Gizmokid2005> yes TimClark, long awaited
23:44:53 <Gizmokid2005> hopefully this fixes some things :)
23:44:58 <TimClark> testing going well ?
23:45:19 <Gizmokid2005> I haven't heard anything bad yet ;)
23:45:29 <Gizmokid2005> though I think it isn't too happy about long(er) paths
23:45:36 <Gizmokid2005> which is understandable.
23:47:23 <TimClark> it must be confusing Gizmokid2005 with all the revisons/sub number/what evers? they have to keep you test numbers looking good
23:47:58 <Gizmokid2005> yeah.
23:48:15 <Gizmokid2005> I don't change the DT number unless I change the launcher if I'm just updating what revision of KVIrc I'm using,
23:48:30 <Gizmokid2005> but today we went to DT10 from DT9. big launcher changes.