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03:33:04 <JohnTHaller1> hola
03:33:07 <JohnTHaller1> argh
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03:33:17 <Scriptdaemon> ...?
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03:33:35 <JohnTHaller> hola
03:33:35 <computerfreaker> Hi JohnTHaller!
03:33:37 <Scriptdaemon> Wb.
03:33:44 <JohnTHaller> How goes it?
03:34:16 <computerfreaker> it goes. Depends on the project.
03:34:18 <computerfreaker> And you?
03:34:31 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller :)
03:35:10 <JohnTHaller> Not bad. Planning out the PA.c status update for tomorrow. Prepping the 1.6.1 release. Working on 2.0b5. And prepping the multi-Firefox page for support (and associated quick story) that talks about doing this: http://portableapps.com/files/images/screenshots/firefoxportable_all_versions.png
03:35:49 <Scriptdaemon> Nice.
03:36:18 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: howdy :D
03:36:31 <Scriptdaemon> 'Ello.
03:36:34 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: thanks for testing PChat or going to I should say :P
03:37:11 <Scriptdaemon> Already made two requests. =P
03:37:30 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: and btw I forgot to give this to you a long time ago xD http://zachthibeau.com/bgrandomize.png
03:38:31 <Scriptdaemon> I dove into the timer for BGRandomize, so I'm in the middle of that right now. I've starteed classes so it's been slow.
03:39:35 <Scriptdaemon> You actually did give me that one. I was going to ask you, do you still have the .psd file? If so, can you get rid of the text layer? =P
03:40:14 <ZachThibeau> no unfortunetly xD
03:40:19 <sar3th> he's using gimp, so it'll be an xcf
03:40:21 <ZachThibeau> since then I got a new pc
03:40:31 <sar3th> :(
03:40:41 <Scriptdaemon> Ah, nice. I got a new laptop over Christmas.
03:40:52 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: to make links in PChat/XChat type out /set gui_url_mod 0 and hit enter then you can double click links to open :)
03:41:03 <ZachThibeau> or you can ctrl+click
03:41:20 <Scriptdaemon> I never looked into it, so I never knew that.
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03:43:23 <Scriptdaemon> So now PChat uses its own data directory instead of XChat's?
03:44:09 <ZachThibeau> PChat uses it's own but you can import XChat's data if you want
03:45:30 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, I saw that. Does the installer take care of start menu shortcuts and everything now?
03:45:42 <Scriptdaemon> (For the non-PA.c version)
03:46:15 <ZachThibeau> yeah should
03:46:30 <Scriptdaemon> Alright, I'll check that out when I get off work.
03:46:37 <ZachThibeau> I've been fixing it and testing it and the installer should work properly now
03:48:11 <JohnTHaller> gnight all
03:48:21 <computerfreaker_> bye JohnTHaller!
03:48:44 <ZachThibeau> night JohnTHaller
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03:49:21 <Scriptdaemon> I'm clocking out soon and I have some studying to do, so I'm going to head out too. Night Zach.
03:49:34 <computerfreaker_> bye Scriptdaemon!
03:49:40 <Scriptdaemon> Bye computerfreaker_
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03:57:09 <ZachThibeau> night all
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05:24:30 <ChrisMorgan> Hello, spectrum1! Can we help you with anything?
05:26:31 <spectrum1> hi
05:28:49 <spectrum1> ChrisMorgan: Thanks, I made Czech/Slovak localization for OO.org Portable and posted it to MarkoMLM, so everything will be fine, maybe ;-)
05:29:05 <ChrisMorgan> Good, good :-)
05:29:29 <ChrisMorgan> Is the PortableApps.com Platform available in Czech/Slovak?
05:30:42 <spectrum1> I don't know, I just want OO.org .. ;-)
05:31:52 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, looks like it is.
05:32:01 <ChrisMorgan> If you would like to, you could translate our latest product, the PortableApps.com Launcher: the strings are available in the middle of the post at http://portableapps.com/node/22364
05:36:05 <spectrum1> Maybe, thanks, I had a hard night today, now I am drinking coffee at the office, it is 6:30 am local time .. too early for translation
05:36:15 <ChrisMorgan> Yep :-)
05:36:33 <spectrum1> and sorry for my bad english, I can only translate to Czech.. ;-)
05:38:08 <ChrisMorgan> Bad English? Terribly sorry, I didn't notice :-)
05:40:13 <spectrum1> ;-)
05:58:36 <ChrisMorgan> Someone in the forums suggested the use of some Windows API function to free memory up when you don't need it (by shoving currently unused things into virtual memory). Can anyone remember what it was, or some keyword that could help me find it? So far I've not had any luck :-(
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06:16:48 <sar3th> prefetching maybe?
06:17:21 <sar3th> ChrisMorgan: by the way, rcmaehl suggested caching of applications in the platform, and i think it's an interesting thought; what's your opinion on that?
06:17:58 <ChrisMorgan> Not prefetching. It was a SomethingMemorySomething API function but I can't remember what it was.
06:18:17 <ChrisMorgan> John has expressed an opinion on the topic which is not in favour of it for most users at least.
06:18:49 <ChrisMorgan> Since using appinfo.ini and appicon_16.png it has been faster (in theory) than before also
06:19:07 <ChrisMorgan> I think you could possibly do a directory scan though. Talk to John about it.
06:19:53 <sar3th> okay, thanks
06:21:27 <ChrisMorgan> The thing is I'm wanting a function (and this chap knew about it) which puts unused memory into virtual memory, not freeing it and forgetting about it.
06:24:45 <ChrisMorgan> sar3th: don't put <a>around a link</a> or else it <em>won't</em> be a link.
06:25:11 <ChrisMorgan> Either specify the href attribute or leave out the whole tag
06:25:28 <sar3th> okay, thanks ChrisMorgan
06:26:06 <sar3th> sometimes one tends to forget the most basic syntax / commands
06:26:09 <ChrisMorgan> That's better.
06:31:54 <sar3th> i think i need to be more active on the forums
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09:14:46 <pa_9303> I have a question: is there any way to automate an update process of some portables (VLC, Miranda, Fx, Pidgin, all of portables will be the best) and to supress or redirect an build-in update procedure of some of them?
09:29:09 <ChrisMorgan> pa_9303: the PortableApps.com Updater will be coming very soon. It will handle portable updates.
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09:38:05 <pins> ChrisMorgan: there are no plans to thange these applications itself?
09:38:31 <ChrisMorgan> In general, we can't
09:39:22 <pins> ChrisMorgan: how would this updater work?
09:39:44 <ChrisMorgan> It works by downloading information from our server and comparing versions with those of the applications you have installed.
09:41:10 <pins> I install all portables in one directory, but how should updater know, where it is? and what if I or somebody else install it into some different places?
09:41:47 <pins> I mean it's not like a suite, which is installed into one predifened place
09:42:06 <ChrisMorgan> What do you mean, in one directory?
09:43:14 <ChrisMorgan> So long as it's something like X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable, PortableApps\PidginPortable etc. you'll be OK. If you really are installing them all to the one directory, don't, don't, DON'T do that. You're jeopardising all your settings while you do anything like that, many applications /will not/ work together like that. And upgrades will be dreadful.
09:43:29 <pins> To have some order at least on my HDD (and if I install them on somebody else computer) I creatre a direcory (c.\portables\ for ex.) and after this all portables will be placed here
09:44:21 <ChrisMorgan> In their own subdirectories?
09:44:55 <pins> but what if somebody will install them into c:\programs\? or even into the different directories? How will updater find them?
09:45:27 <ChrisMorgan> You'll run it installed in there and it'll get them.
09:46:44 <ChrisMorgan> The recommended form is that applications go in X:\PortableApps\AppNamePortable. We strongly recommend for interoperability (especially future) that you follow this convention.
09:47:00 <pins> Yes of course, every app in its own directory, but all this directories in the same directory, just for order sake. but one havn't to instale them this way!
09:47:52 <ChrisMorgan> Yep. They should all be sibling directories. It is a good idea from the start to have the parent directory called "PortableApps" though.
09:48:21 <pins> you mean, make an "PortableApps" in the root of some drive and put all of them into this "PortableApps"?
09:48:52 <ChrisMorgan> Yes. That way also PortableApps.com Installers will also find the right location from the start.
09:49:05 <ChrisMorgan> However, some of our applications don't take kindly to moving between directories.
09:49:23 <ChrisMorgan> Drive letters they can cope with but between directories inside a drive, none are really designed to.
09:49:45 <ChrisMorgan> So you may be best to leave it as X:\portables or whatever you have.
09:49:47 <pins> But would it be possible for autometic updater to work if somebody install them in the directory with a different name or even into two or more different directories?
09:50:54 <ChrisMorgan> As a rule with it, if the PortableApps.com Platform is able to find the applications, the PortableApps.com Updater will be able to.
09:51:04 <ChrisMorgan> (The Updater will be coming as part of the Platform)
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09:53:48 <pins> I can make a copy and try it.
09:55:56 <pins> OK, I take a wait till updater is out and then I'll test it. It would be very nice if it can scan an HDD or simply ask for a directory, if it couldn't find updateble portables itself
09:58:53 <ChrisMorgan> You will install it as a portable application itself (with the PortableApps.com Platform) - thus it updates all that appear in the PortableApps.com Platform, which is what would be expected.
10:00:27 <pins> ChrisMorgan: so it would be better to install it and all portables into PortableApps or at least into the same directory?
10:01:20 <ChrisMorgan> When installing them, it's best to have a directory PortableApps and then select that directory.
10:02:04 <pins> ChrisMorgan: will it be available separately, as standalone? I don't like to have to use the platform (bacause I only use some of applications) to have them automaticaly updated.
10:02:51 <ChrisMorgan> Initially it will be a separate executable, but I'm not certain whether we'll be distributing it separately at all. That's something we may have to gauge.
10:03:13 <ChrisMorgan> Later on it is planned to rewrite it in the language the Platform is written in, and then you won't be able to get it separately.
10:04:40 <pins> ChrisMorgan: I try to explain the whole probelm. I like porrtables very much, just because they don't make this instalation mess with extensions and other components and so on (compare VLC and VLC Portable). I install them manually and for me it isn't a big deal to start them from where they are installed or make a shortcut for them in the start menu. But for some normal computer user things work different after the first upda
10:05:15 <ChrisMorgan> Your line was too long and it got cut off at "work differently after the first upda"
10:05:54 <pins> ChrisMorgan: update comes into town... to be continued in a minute
10:08:25 <pins> ChrisMorgan: so if I install VLC or Fx portable on somebody's unexpirienced machine, as soon as Fx informs him "here is an update", he/she presses an "OK" button and normal Fx or VLC is instaled. I can explain what to do (don't press Ok, go there and download this and that), but it is alraedy more complicated as usual update process
10:08:50 <ChrisMorgan> As a matter of fact, with Firefox it's now safe to let it update itself.
10:09:26 <ChrisMorgan> For VLC, the update check can be disabled. I thought we had it disabled by default.
10:10:56 <pins> ChrisMorgan: just as a break: what do you mean about Fx? Will it update a portable instalation? And are you sure about side effects and futher portability of this kind of instalation?
10:11:23 <ChrisMorgan> It can safely update a portable installation since 3.5
10:11:58 <ChrisMorgan> See http://portableapps.com/forums/support/firefox_portable/faq#1
10:12:34 <pins> ChrisMorgan: and if an update notification is disabled, how would somebody know, that the new version is available? Nice to here it about Fx
10:12:53 <ChrisMorgan> Feed readers are a good way of doing it.
10:13:44 <ChrisMorgan> If you use Google Reader or any RSS reader, you can subscribe to http://portableapps.com/feeds/general and that'll notify you of updates to our applications (and other important news)
10:15:03 <pins> ChrisMorgan: Moreover, not everyone of my "customers" (and I think that it is representative) can read English, some of them are Russians, some of them are Germans. But Portableapps. com in Russian is rudimental and German one is better, but also not always up-to-date and complete.
10:15:24 <ChrisMorgan> The download links in the German version should always be up to date.
10:15:47 <ChrisMorgan> When we update the download links, we update them in the German area also.
10:16:29 <ChrisMorgan> A full version of the Russian site is due to be released some time, haven't heard the latest quite on it.
10:16:45 <pins> ChrisMorgan: so I need a solution, but not for me, just for somebody who is not that expirienced, just a normal user.
10:17:07 <ChrisMorgan> "Normal users" will be using the PortableApps.com Platform, and so will get updates through the PortableApps.com Updater.
10:17:47 <pins> And just now? What is the solution for this very moment?
10:17:58 <ChrisMorgan> Just now, wait.
10:18:17 <pins> ok. wait till updater comes out?
10:19:20 <ChrisMorgan> Yep.
10:22:42 <pins> ChrisMorgan: and it is shure, that at the end this updater will not be available as separate download? Just as a part of the platform download?
10:23:36 <ChrisMorgan> I don't expect it to be being released separately at first. And after some time it won't be available at all as a separate product but will be completely integrated in to the Platform rather than as a separate, bundled program.
10:24:38 <pins> ChrisMorgan: Is it possible to help out with a russian site? I can't promise anything, but I would give at least some translations if I'll have some time
10:25:20 <ChrisMorgan> pins: John told me a few weeks ago that we have it sorted out.
10:26:36 <pins> ChrisMorgan: Platform itself is an 2Mb package, so I can live with it as an updater starter, even if I don't use the menu and backup parts of it
10:26:46 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
10:28:23 <pins> which kind of sort out? The "forget it" or "somebody is working on it already" kind?
10:32:48 <pins> ChrisMorgan: is it OK to install platform on HDD? It isn't just made for a removable media?
10:33:35 <ChrisMorgan> Sure. It'll work fine. Just make sure that the folder is read/write (mainly just not Program Files, especially on Vista/7)
10:33:54 <ChrisMorgan> Somebody is already involved with it.
10:35:03 <pins> ok nice to hear this. It will be a really big help for some people. Are you shure that those people dont' need any help?
10:35:57 <pins> BTW, can I update Tb3 Port same way I can do it with Fx3,6 Port?
10:39:31 <pins> ChrisMorgan: and once again, thank you all for your efforts. These all was not just a critics, but some comments, for making the whole thing more user friendly and to get more users into the portable boat.
10:40:00 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not sure about Thunderbird 3. I haven't tested it.
10:40:12 <ChrisMorgan> You're always safer to get the portably packaged update from us.
10:40:35 <ChrisMorgan> I think that the Russian translation should be OK. I'll talk to John more about it next time I see him if I remember.
10:40:41 <ChrisMorgan> You're welcome :-)
10:40:47 <pins> and there is no FAQ about Tb, just like this one about Fx?
10:44:54 <ChrisMorgan> Doesn't seem like it
10:46:38 <pins> ChrisMorgan: I take a look at the German pages. What I missed from what I (or somebody else I know) am using: mTorrent isn't here at all and one have no notofocation about problems in MPlayer and hence no redirection to the SMplayer Port
10:46:52 <ChrisMorgan> You mean uTorrent?
10:47:35 <ChrisMorgan> Hm, I'll tell Marko about that.
10:47:45 <pins> yep. thank you
10:48:18 <ChrisMorgan> Thank /you/
10:51:17 <pins> ChrisMorgan: and even if I don't know who Marko is: thank him to
10:51:26 <ChrisMorgan> He's the German translator.
10:51:31 <ChrisMorgan> And the OpenOffice.org Portable packager.
10:52:26 <ChrisMorgan> Oh dear, looks like quite a few of our newer apps don't have German counterparts.
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10:55:01 <pins> yep, there not as much freeware as on the English pages
10:55:41 <pins> if somebody have not enought time to translate, i can really help here
10:58:57 <ChrisMorgan> Uh oh, there are lots of them missing.
11:00:26 <pins> ChrisMorgan: I'm happy bacause most of the things I'm using are already in German translation, so it's not a problem for my only German speaking friends. And if it would be true for the Russian pages, I'll be happy on behalf of my Russian speaking friends. But dreams are here to come true, right.
11:00:41 <ChrisMorgan> Hope so :-)
11:01:43 <pins> OK, this is not that good, but it isn't a problem, because the most important and most used are translated. Thsi sin't a Marko fault, he is just a man and also have only 24h a day
11:06:36 <pins> ChrisMorgan: Ok, thank you for this conversation. As I understand, an updater (soon to come out) is the one click solution for all installed portable ones. Meanwhile, the only way is to supres or ignore the usual notofocations (not by Fx) and wait till RSS or PA.com brings some new, go there and download+manually install it. It would be better to name the directory PortableApps and place it into the root, but it isn't required
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16:33:44 <SteveLamerton> Hello MaienM, ZachThibeau, all
16:34:44 <ZachThibeau> :D
16:35:54 <SteveLamerton> How are you ZachThibeau?
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16:45:31 <ZachThibeau> ohh I'm doing good thanks
16:45:34 <ZachThibeau> you?
16:46:14 <SteveLamerton> Busy as always :( Hopeing to get some more Toucan time next week though as one of my courses finishes
16:52:01 <ZachThibeau> hmm I hear you there, (been there done that myself)
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17:18:53 <JohnTHaller> hola
17:22:35 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
17:24:46 <JohnTHaller> Wanna test secondary profile support for Firefox Portable?
17:25:18 <ZachThibeau> I would but I'm in the middle of making a static compile of gtk
17:25:28 <JohnTHaller> ok
17:26:04 <JohnTHaller> Anybody else?
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17:44:58 <ZachThibeau> if I compile gtk right, this means I can compile PChat with gtk statically linked so no extra dll files needed etc basically my own minigtk build but not so mini but both static build :D
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17:46:28 <SteveLamerton> Hi JohnTHaller
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17:48:02 <JohnTHaller> hi steve
17:48:21 <JohnTHaller> wanna test 2nd profile support? :-)
17:48:23 <SteveLamerton> I'll take a look at firefox :)
17:48:46 <JohnTHaller> You have FFP installed already?
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17:49:40 <SteveLamerton> Yep
17:49:42 <JohnTHaller> Ok, install this to your PortableApps directory, so it's next to Firefox Portable: http://portableapps.com/temp/FirefoxPortableSecondaryProfile_1.0_Beta_1.paf.exe
17:51:57 <SteveLamerton> Nice, seems to work for me!
17:53:46 <JohnTHaller> Cool. Think I'm gonna change it to 2nd Profile so it fits better in the menu
17:54:01 <JohnTHaller> It doesn't include a FFP launcher or default profile, it gets it all from the main FFP :-)
17:54:50 <SteveLamerton> I was just about to ask how it works, and yes, the overrun looks a bit bad really
17:55:27 <JohnTHaller> 2nd Profile fits
17:55:33 <JohnTHaller> I figure most folks will rename it anyway
17:56:38 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, that is exactly what I did ;)
17:59:00 <JohnTHaller> Alright, I'm gonna call it 2nd Profile accross the board. I'm doing one for FF, TB and Sunbird
17:59:45 <JohnTHaller> I'm gonna update Private Browsing to use the technique, too, and push a version of that out for folks who are interested.
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19:08:26 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: you mean the private browsing you had already?
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19:11:10 <JohnTHaller> hi Gizmokid2005
19:11:16 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, an updated version of that.
19:11:54 <JohnTHaller> Basically a 2nd profile with a custom theme/icon/branding with FlashBlock, AdBlock Plus EasyPrivacy Filter, auto-clear of cookies, etc on close, no download history, no URL history, etc.
19:11:57 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, just wondered JohnTHaller since Private Browsing is just a (CTRL+SHIFT+P) away now...
19:12:10 <JohnTHaller> This would be an enhanced version of that.
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19:12:38 <Gizmokid2005> that would be cool
19:12:45 <JohnTHaller> The built-in privacy feature is still vulnerable to flash cookies, for example.
19:12:54 <SteveLamerton> Be back later all, off to go fencing
19:13:04 <JohnTHaller> have fun, man
19:13:11 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: Did you try the 2nd profile support?
19:13:14 <SteveLamerton> Cheers, bye!
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19:13:20 <Gizmokid2005> I haven't. I'm on my mac right now
19:13:25 <JohnTHaller> ah ok
19:13:49 <Gizmokid2005> I've been spending a lot of time on here, but I saw the link and I'll hop on my PC and test it shortly
19:14:06 <Gizmokid2005> will it allow simultaneous instances or not?
19:14:30 <JohnTHaller> Nope. You need two FF installs to do that.
19:14:34 <Gizmokid2005> I figured.
19:14:39 <Gizmokid2005> just thought I'd check
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19:27:45 <pa_6239> hi
19:27:57 <JohnTHaller> how can we help you
19:28:28 <pa_6239> Is Portableapps under GNU?
19:29:18 <JohnTHaller> The platform, installer and backup utility have source code released under the GPL. Many apps are GPL. Some are MPL. Some BSD, MIT and others.
19:29:34 <JohnTHaller> Is there something you'd like to do with our code? Or were you just curious?
19:30:17 <pa_6239> I am not interested on the coding side. But more on the distribution side. =)
19:31:33 <JohnTHaller> Ah. For distribution, you can redistribut any of our binary installers free of charge. You can't repackage the platform itself with the PA.c logos or themes included (those are trademarks and tradedress). You can't repackage Firefox, THunderbird, Sunbird, Songbird due to trademarks (we have special permission). And you can't repackage the freeware (we had to get permission on those, too).
19:32:09 <JohnTHaller> So, you're free to redistribute. But to modify or repackage, certain things have certain restrictions.
19:32:47 <pa_6239> i see.
19:33:02 <JohnTHaller> Make sense? What would you like to do? Something we can help with?
19:33:28 <pa_6239> Yes, it makes sense.
19:34:31 <JohnTHaller> Were you looking to redistribute the suite? repackage some apps? or sell flash drives with stuff on them?
19:35:21 <pa_6239> We are starting a pilot project that is similar to packaging opensource apps with other products.
19:36:04 <pa_6239> We are still in the research phase.
19:36:06 <JohnTHaller> For download? Or devices for sale?
19:36:26 <JohnTHaller> (devices like flash drives, portable hard drives, mp3 players, etc)
19:36:49 <pa_6239> not for download
19:37:01 <pa_6239> will be in physical form
19:37:29 <JohnTHaller> If you're looking to sell flash drives, for instance, you can actually pre-install the whole PA.c Suite free of charge and sell the drives as long as you don't make any changes to it.
19:37:48 <JohnTHaller> You can even custom co-brand it for a few cents a drive.
19:39:22 <pa_6239> I will for sure talk to you when we go out of this planning stage.
19:40:09 <pa_6239> Thank you for you time. =)
19:40:14 <JohnTHaller> Ok. You can involve us in the planning stage as well. We're working with a few others doing similar things. We can execute a mutual NDA and assist.
19:40:50 <JohnTHaller> Just drop a note to the business development address on our Contact Page or give us a call, wen you're ready. You're welcome
19:40:54 <pa_6239> Sure , and let me talk with my partner regarding this. I think it is a great idea.
19:42:58 <pa_6239> I will give you a call when I have the things ready on my side. Talk to you later.
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20:11:48 <AGGELOS> hi
20:11:57 <JohnTHaller> Hi AGGELOS. How can we help you?
20:12:40 <AGGELOS> I am looking for lame.dll
20:12:59 <JohnTHaller> for which app?
20:13:18 <AGGELOS> for audiasity
20:13:24 <JohnTHaller> http://lame.buanzo.com.ar/
20:13:34 <JohnTHaller> Grab the ZIP file, the second one, for Audacity Portable.
20:14:02 <JohnTHaller> Details on where to place it are here:
20:14:03 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/support/audacity_portable#lame
20:14:38 <AGGELOS> thank you :)
20:14:46 <JohnTHaller> You're welcome, AGGELOS
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23:51:06 <computerfreaker> Hi ChrisMorgan!
23:51:21 <ChrisMorgan> Hey computerfreaker
23:51:32 <computerfreaker> how's it going?