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01:14:36 <rcmaehl_dsi> A-squared had a temporary false positive with the PAP in today's definitions but I submited a report and it got fixed
01:17:01 <rcmaehl_dsi> ...Okay, no one is surprised about the false positive...
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05:12:33 <pa_> hi
05:12:49 <pa_> how to make firefox load faster
05:14:19 <pa_> any budyy here
05:17:01 <pa_> hi
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05:28:11 <pa_9289> how to make firefox load faster
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05:36:44 <pa_0264> Does the PortableApps.com Menu application require access to the Host Systems Regestry?
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05:38:40 <pa_0264> Is there really anybody here?
05:39:34 <pa_0264> help!
05:39:34 <GizmoBot> pa_0264: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
05:39:51 <pa_0264> Does the PortableApps.com Menu application require access to the Host Systems Regestry?
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08:00:34 <Dynetrekk> I installed gvim portable, but its vimrc file does not load. I followed instructions here:http://portablegvim.sourceforge.net/configuration.html any suggested fixes? (I did not install the portableapps suite, just gvim portable.)
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11:31:21 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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11:40:54 <Simeon> HI All
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11:49:46 <Dynetrekk> I installed gvim portable, but its vimrc file does not load. I followed instructions here:http://portablegvim.sourceforge.net/configuration.html any suggested fixes? (I did not install the portableapps suite, just gvim portable.)
11:51:23 <Simeon> Hi. What version do you have?
11:51:49 <Dynetrekk> Simeon: version of what? gvim portable is the equivalent of vim 7.1 I think...
11:52:20 <Simeon> ok. I never use vim so its a little hard to help you :)
11:52:56 <Simeon> I was asking because there is an official PortableApps.com version here (http://portableapps.com/apps/development/gvim_portable) which is 7.2
11:52:59 <Dynetrekk> Simeon: right. gvim is working fine, it just won't read the vimrc. on *nix it reads a file ~/.vimrc for its settings. there's a similar file in gvim portable
11:53:33 <Dynetrekk> Simeon: hm. you're right. this is the one I installed, but I followed the other instructions after googling. maybe the vimrc file goes in a different place here.
11:53:45 <Simeon> Where did you put it?
11:53:55 <Dynetrekk> Simeon: btw, that doesn't make sense either, there was an example vimrc file in the directory tree already
11:54:14 <Simeon> Did you run it once before putting your old settings file there?
11:54:19 <Dynetrekk> Simeon: GvimPortable/Data/Settings
11:54:28 <Dynetrekk> run what once?
11:54:56 <Simeon> GVim
11:55:09 <Dynetrekk> yep, I ran it before putting the new settings in place
11:56:40 <Simeon> I just run it for the first time and iot created a settings folder inside my Data folder. In it I have a folder and 3 files. Judging from their names, I think you have to rename your settings file to _vimrc and not just vimrc
11:57:52 <Dynetrekk> Simeon: I thought _vimrc was an example you could rename to vimrc if you wanted to use it
11:58:01 <Dynetrekk> Simeon: the settings in _vimrc are certainly not in use
11:59:08 <Dynetrekk> I don't have a portableapps suite, though, only gvim portable. did the files show up in your "suite" data folder?
11:59:23 <Simeon> did you read the readme inside the \gVimPortable\Data\settings\vimfiles folder?
12:00:06 <Simeon> I dont have a "suite" data folder. just gvim installed and my suite around it. Each App has its own data folder.
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12:05:22 <Simeon> hi kaeros
12:09:09 <Simeon> Dynetrekk: I searcht our forums and came up with this: http://portableapps.com/node/15654#comment-106421 Maybe it helps
12:10:30 <Simeon> Is there anything I can help you with kaeos?
12:15:33 <Dynetrekk> Simeon: thanks a bunch! I'll look into the readme and the forum post
12:16:01 <Dynetrekk> Simeon: the forum post looks just like the thing! I gotta run, bye.
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18:52:59 <Simeon> hi all
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19:58:14 <rcmaehl> When are you guys going to release the 2.0 PAP b/c I am getting tired of having to us taskmanaer to miniize the PAP
19:58:24 <pa_8506> hi. how can I remove application from portable apps?
19:58:36 <rcmaehl> pa_8506: which version
19:59:13 <pa_8506> how can I check?
19:59:32 <rcmaehl> pa_8506: clic help then about
19:59:41 <rcmaehl> click*
19:59:45 <pa_8506> ver 1.5.2
19:59:57 <rcmaehl> okay
20:00:04 <rcmaehl> then open up yur drive
20:00:26 <rcmaehl> in the My Computer Window
20:00:31 <pa_8506> done
20:00:49 <rcmaehl> Double CLick thePortableApps folder
20:01:11 <pa_8506> ok
20:01:49 <rcmaehl> And find the folder with the nae of th program you want to remove and delete the folder.
20:02:33 <rcmaehl> The 1.6 Version of the PortableApp has a right click menu that allows for easier uninstalls
20:03:33 <pa_8506> Thanks a million.
20:03:34 <rcmaehl> Would you like te link
20:03:42 <pa_8506> yes please
20:03:45 <rcmaehl> to the newest version of the portableapps
20:03:46 <rcmaehl> ok
20:04:15 <rcmaehl> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_1.6.exe
20:05:24 <rcmaehl> oops
20:05:28 <rcmaehl> here
20:05:29 <rcmaehl> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/PortableApps.com%20Platform/PortableApps.com%20Platform%201.6/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_1.6.exe/download
20:05:42 <rcmaehl> other link is broken
20:06:30 <pa_8506> Got it. Upgrading...
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20:06:59 <rcmaehl> :D
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20:10:37 <pa_8506> All set. Thanks rcmaehl.
20:10:49 <rcmaehl> No Problem
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20:11:15 <rcmaehl> pa_8506: now all you have to do is right click on the app and click uninstall to removeit
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20:13:21 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback
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20:14:30 <rcmaehl> Gizmokid2005: may I PM you to ask you something?
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20:18:11 <pa_3343> S.A
20:18:50 <pa_3343> anyone?
20:19:00 <rcmaehl> ?
20:19:49 <pa_3343> wich language do you speak more?
20:20:28 <pa_3343> yo
20:20:45 <computerfreaker> pa_3343: this is predominantly an English channel
20:20:45 <rcmaehl> English but I can translate any other main language (spanish, french, germaN) for you
20:20:57 <computerfreaker> pa_3343: what do you need?
20:20:57 <pa_3343> ahahhahah
20:21:20 <pa_3343> where are you from?
20:21:34 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: USA
20:21:44 <pa_3343> ok
20:22:02 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: please take this to -ot if it has nothing to do with you needing suppor
20:22:06 <rcmaehl> support*
20:22:10 <pa_3343> my question is;
20:22:41 <pa_3343> how can i use linux on my portable
20:22:47 <pa_3343> driver
20:22:57 <pa_3343> i mean how to install
20:23:03 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: hold on
20:23:08 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: I'll get the link
20:23:16 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: I've done that before
20:23:16 <pa_3343> ok thanx
20:23:24 <pa_3343> oo ja?
20:23:26 <pa_3343> ok
20:24:29 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: you'll need this: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-wubi
20:24:50 <pa_3343> i should try
20:25:13 <pa_3343> but
20:25:57 <pa_3343> i think i cant use this link to intall the linux for my portable driver
20:26:07 <pa_3343> can i?
20:26:55 <pa_3343> ?
20:27:37 <rcmaehl> yeah
20:27:50 <rcmaehl> if thedrive is big enough
20:28:02 <pa_3343> can you tell me how can i do that
20:28:16 <pa_3343> because if i download the linux
20:28:41 <pa_3343> i think i cant use it to boot on my portable stick
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20:29:20 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: it should work
20:29:44 <pa_3343> really?
20:29:48 <rcmaehl> yeah
20:29:56 <pa_3343> so
20:30:32 <pa_3343> should just try
20:30:37 <rcmaehl> Yeah
20:30:53 <pa_3343> thanks for the supporting
20:31:18 <pa_3343> sorry
20:31:28 <rcmaehl> no problem
20:31:56 <pa_3343> can you boot some windos version on some portable stick?
20:32:09 <pa_3343> i mean windows
20:32:49 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: Iii'm ot sure, you'd have to have like windows 95 or 98
20:32:58 <rcmaehl> I'M*
20:33:25 <computerfreaker> I think you can boot the Windows installer from a flash drive, but not Windows itself
20:33:43 <computerfreaker> oh, I was wrong: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5928902.html
20:33:52 <pa_3343> sh*t
20:34:40 <pa_3343> so it can?
20:34:54 <computerfreaker> yes
20:34:54 <rcmaehl> Yeah with lots of work
20:36:10 <pa_3343> i think its better to use the linux
20:37:06 <pa_3343> do you think the same?
20:37:13 <rcmaehl> yeah
20:38:02 <pa_3343> then I prefer to use linux ;)
20:39:05 <computerfreaker> pa_3343: FYI, some computers don't support booting from a USB stick
20:39:29 <pa_3343> support of linux?
20:40:01 <computerfreaker> the problem isn't Linux, the problem is the host computer (the problem is at the hardware level, IIRC)
20:40:20 <pa_3343> ooo, ok
20:41:06 <pa_3343> but is that happinig by the old version pc's, dont?
20:41:26 <computerfreaker> yes, that generally happens with older PC's; newer ones usually support booting from a USB drive
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20:42:36 <pa_3343> ok then I think rarely happens nowadays
20:43:20 <computerfreaker> depends. A lot of places (especially businesses) have older equipment because they don't have the budget to upgrade or they have a mission-critical app that doesn't work on newer versions of Windows
20:44:49 <pa_3343> I have not really even thought
20:45:10 <pa_3343> you're right
20:51:35 <pa_3343> I thank you all for your help, and I wish you a good night (maybe because it is yet day, but here it is already 22.00). :)
20:51:53 <rcmaehl> It's only 16:00 here
20:52:16 <pa_3343> really?
20:52:20 <pa_3343> ahahhahaahah
20:52:27 <pa_3343> usa?
20:52:40 <rcmaehl> yeah
20:53:28 <pa_3343> Moreover, what is the price of an i phone 3g there?
20:53:41 <rcmaehl> like $250
20:53:43 <pa_3343> (new)
20:53:50 <pa_3343> really?
20:54:11 <pa_3343> you make a joke right?
20:54:18 <rcmaehl> No
20:54:22 <rcmaehl> But
20:54:36 <rcmaehl> It used to be like $500
20:54:42 <rcmaehl> US Dollars
20:55:20 <pa_3343> earlier?
20:55:28 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: yeah
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20:55:56 <pa_3343> Here is just out
20:56:16 <pa_3343> and it costs 700 euro's
20:57:12 <pa_3343> can you believe it?
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20:57:51 <rcmaehl> Really?
20:57:57 <pa_3343> yeah man
20:58:25 <pa_3343> secondhand= 300 euro's
20:58:38 <rcmaehl> WOW
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20:59:50 <pa_3343> it is possible to make one to send here to Netherlands ;)
21:00:02 <pa_3343> ?
21:00:04 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: yeah
21:00:22 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: hold on let me see if I can find the site
21:01:02 <pa_3343> ok
21:01:20 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: price of the iphone now http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-is-finally-official/
21:01:56 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: and here's the site to buy it: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone
21:02:22 <pa_3343> wow 199 dollars
21:02:44 <rcmaehl> yeah
21:03:29 <pa_3343> here=300
21:03:32 <pa_3343> euro
21:03:46 <rcmaehl> Expensive
21:04:03 <pa_3343> yeah man
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21:04:53 <pa_8791> help!
21:04:53 <GizmoBot> pa_8791: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
21:05:11 <rcmaehl> pa_8791: How can we help you?
21:05:12 <pa_3343> You know a website where I can buy one to the Netherlands?
21:05:19 <pa_8791> How fo you uninstall portable apps?
21:06:07 <pa_8791> help!
21:06:07 <GizmoBot> pa_8791: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
21:06:46 <rcmaehl> pa_8791: on which version
21:07:13 <pa_8791> newest.. i installed it yesterday
21:07:33 <rcmaehl> pa_8791: right click on the app
21:07:52 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: http://www.apple.com/nl/iphone/iphone-3g/ <- I think
21:07:53 <pa_8791> oh ok
21:08:36 <pa_3343> hahaahah ok thanx
21:08:50 <rcmaehl> pa_3343: you are welcome
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21:30:40 * rcmaehl is on a roll today.
21:30:52 * computerfreaker agrees
21:30:57 * rcmaehl does the barrel roll rick roll as a victory dance
21:31:06 <computerfreaker> lol :)
21:36:29 <rcmaehl> computerfreaker: ia your program free?
21:36:33 <rcmaehl> is*
21:36:50 <computerfreaker> yes; it's FOSS, released under the GPLv2
21:43:49 <marlop> computerfreaker: rcmaehl's idea of the math question is good, hope john acceps it.
21:44:00 <computerfreaker> thanks, marlop!
21:54:43 <marlop> computerfreaker: you are coding your program in what language ?
21:54:52 <computerfreaker> REALbasic
21:54:57 <computerfreaker> it's a cross-platform BASIC dialect
21:55:08 <computerfreaker> http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic/
21:58:50 <rcmaehl> computerfreaker: Idea fo your program, Cancel button for someone who accidently launches the program
21:59:04 <marlop> i coded a web app, and now i want to make desktop version of it. Can you have a look at the web code and say if you think it's possible ?
21:59:22 <computerfreaker> marlop: I'll take a look. You might do better with Prism, though
21:59:55 <computerfreaker> rcmaehl: how would you implement that? Keep in mind, I have no way of telling when somebody accidentally launches the program vs. deliberately launches the program
22:00:35 <rcmaehl> computerfreaker: just a regular cancel button on the opposite sideof the next and back buttons
22:00:51 <computerfreaker> it's already there
22:00:58 <rcmaehl> O_O
22:01:00 <rcmaehl> Hold on
22:01:02 <computerfreaker> look on the bottom left corner of the Options dialog
22:01:05 <rcmaehl> oh
22:01:55 <rcmaehl> computerfreaker: another idea, a change able background
22:02:02 <computerfreaker> that's implemented too :)
22:02:13 <computerfreaker> keep going in the Options dialog; it's on the next-to-last page
22:02:16 <rcmaehl> oh
22:02:26 <marlop> computerfreaker : no i want it to run locally. it get params from a form and draw a image based on that.
22:02:40 <marlop> computerfreaker: http://marluslopes.co.cc/Calcula%20Vetor/
22:02:45 <computerfreaker> I'll take a look
22:02:52 <marlop> thank's
22:03:10 <rcmaehl> marlop: it's in spanish ><
22:03:23 <computerfreaker> marlop: you can do that in REALbasic, no problem
22:03:26 <marlop> brasilian portuguese
22:03:30 <rcmaehl> oh
22:04:17 <marlop> thank's
22:04:25 <computerfreaker> you're welcome!
22:04:34 <computerfreaker> just a quick warning: REALbasic is *not* free
22:04:44 <rcmaehl> http://code.google.com/p/kidsafe/people/list <- O_O
22:04:46 <computerfreaker> you'll need to pay $99 for a single-platform license
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22:04:56 <rcmaehl> computerfreaker: O_O
22:05:07 <rcmaehl> $99
22:05:12 <computerfreaker> rcmaehl: what's wrong? That looks OK
22:05:24 <rcmaehl> computerfreaker: Can I be on it
22:05:27 <rcmaehl> :D
22:05:48 <rcmaehl> as like beta testing
22:05:50 <computerfreaker> sure, what do you want to do? (I could always use a couple more testers, and translations are badly needed)
22:06:15 <rcmaehl> Testinh
22:06:19 <rcmaehl> Testing*
22:06:27 <rcmaehl> >< Darn Keyboard
22:06:36 <computerfreaker> great! what version(s) of Windows do you have?
22:06:44 <rcmaehl> 7 Ultimate
22:07:00 <computerfreaker> I don't think we have a 7 tester yet - you're it :)
22:07:06 <rcmaehl> :D
22:08:02 <rcmaehl> I can also tes on XP SP3, Vista Home, and Windows 7 starter
22:08:19 <rcmaehl> I <3 tribooting
22:08:34 <computerfreaker> :D
22:11:26 <marlop> computerfreaker: just saw the price i'll need to use other language
22:11:34 <computerfreaker> :(
22:11:37 <computerfreaker> I was afraid of that
22:12:42 <marlop> do you want tests on win 9x or your app is just win XP up ?
22:13:02 <computerfreaker> if you're willing to try it on 9x, that would be great
22:13:14 <computerfreaker> I'm not sure if REALbasic supports Win 9x, and I don't have a 9x machine to try
22:13:44 <marlop> will try, reports in a few minutes
22:13:51 <computerfreaker> ok, thank you!
22:15:43 <marlop> the portable version issued a runtime error
22:15:56 <computerfreaker> what error did it give you?
22:16:58 <marlop> at ..\..\..\..\Common\loaderx86.cpp:658 failure condition 0
22:17:19 <computerfreaker> sounds like 9x isn't supported then.
22:17:23 <computerfreaker> Well, thanks for trying!
22:19:08 <marlop> is there any difference betwen the portable and the other version(other than not leaving traces)?
22:19:30 <computerfreaker> the only other difference is the location where data's saved
22:20:13 <marlop> the zipped issued the same error and the setup refused to install
22:20:35 <computerfreaker> yes, it sounds like 9x isn't supported. Sorry!
22:21:33 <marlop> my note is at maintenance, so i just hame my mother's old pc that only run well with 9x
22:27:07 <rcmaehl> http://code.google.com/p/kidsafe/issues/list
22:27:10 <rcmaehl> new issue
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