IRC Log from 2010-02-21

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00:58:34 <solanus> Anyone playing with Chris's PortableApps Launcher 1.0a4? I'm not understanding the debug thing
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01:00:52 <solanus> and frankly how to redirect a temp directory from Users/yadayada
01:04:58 <gluxon> solanus! :)
01:05:09 <solanus> Hey gluxon!
01:05:18 <gluxon> You have come on IRC more often :P
01:05:48 <solanus> Ah, but I've got too much going on IRL
01:07:48 <solanus> Looks like interesting things are afoot at PA.c.
01:08:42 <solanus> Music Suite? Didn't see that coming. Maybe JTH has been out clubbing and schmoozing?
01:10:39 <solanus> Good on him if so!
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01:33:40 <solanus> Maybe I'll pop back in when Chris is here to get some help with his launcher...
01:36:17 <solanus> Layter
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01:38:14 * rcmaehl wa a 412GBps Connection and has a screenshot to prove it
01:39:11 <rcmaehl> Want to see it?
02:01:05 <MaienM> no, not really
02:01:12 <MaienM> you should take stuff like that to -ot
02:01:38 <rcmaehl> Cant
02:01:47 <rcmaehl> Banned
02:01:54 <rcmaehl> I would
02:02:00 <MaienM> so?
02:02:00 <rcmaehl> but cant
02:02:12 <MaienM> this channel is still not meant for off-topic discussion
02:02:19 <rcmaehl> k
02:02:39 <MaienM> the fact that you are banned from -or doesn't exclude you from that rule
02:03:22 <TimClark> rcmaehl: you might want to think about why you are banned, and keep it in mind in other channels
02:04:33 <gluxon> Don't you guys think it's time to lift the -ot ban on him? It's been, like, a year I think.
02:04:48 <TimClark> i think you should not be commenting on this gluxon
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02:06:27 <gluxon> Hello pa_1802, looking for help? :)
02:06:48 <pa_1802> yes, help :D can portableapps be installed on u3 drive?
02:06:56 <gluxon> Yep :)
02:07:15 <gluxon> The two work side-by-side perfectly.
02:07:42 <pa_1802> is there a download with the .u3p extension?
02:08:07 <pa_1802> better yet,can i load it from u3 smart programs?
02:08:22 <TimClark> no pa_1802 u3 programs are u3 only
02:08:33 <pa_1802> ok, i got u
02:08:52 <TimClark> our menu and there's can be run side by side , but you can't put their things on their menu
02:09:10 <TimClark> their things on * our * menu
02:09:12 <pa_1802> understood. thanks for letting me know
02:09:29 <pa_1802> u guys ROCK!!
02:09:32 <pa_1802> thanks again
02:09:44 <gluxon> pa_1802: Actually, you can put some PortableApps.com programs on the u3 menu.
02:09:53 <gluxon> Just can't put u3 stuff on our platform.
02:10:18 <pa_1802> point taken
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02:10:57 <gluxon> Shoot, should have given him the link faster :P --> http://usb.smithtech.us/projects/shortcut_creator.php
02:11:11 <TimClark> not really gluxon
02:11:18 <TimClark> john does not support it
02:11:35 <TimClark> and it often does not work
02:12:13 <gluxon> Oh well then :)
02:12:19 <TimClark> So unless you willing to walk him through it step by step and app by app you should not bring it up
02:13:05 <gluxon> I am, so why not?
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02:13:18 <gluxon> Sorry, that came out wrong.
02:13:19 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
02:13:42 <TimClark> well, first i've seen you give step by step support and you should not do it in channel, it's usually a mess
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02:39:48 <pa_3027> Hi
02:40:11 <pa_3027> i needed help with TheManaWordPortable
02:40:27 <pa_3027> should i PM someone?
02:41:03 <pa_3027> help!
02:41:04 <GizmoBot> pa_3027: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
02:43:04 <rcmaehl> pa_3027: How can we help you?
02:47:25 <pa_3027> i had trouble with themanaworldportable
02:47:39 <pa_3027> i have a snip of the error
02:48:07 <pa_3027> should i upload it on a file sharing website?
02:48:07 <rcmaehl> ok
02:48:18 <rcmaehl> pa_3027: yeah
02:48:37 <pa_3027> what do you prefer?
02:48:46 <pa_3027> tinypic, photobucket...
02:48:55 <rcmaehl> doesn'tmatter
02:48:58 <pa_3027> mediafire :)
02:50:07 <pa_3027> ok im uploadin
02:50:26 <pa_3027> [ | ]
02:51:29 <rcmaehl> I got no link
02:51:38 <pa_3027> http://www.mediafire.com/i/?zrazgnk4zyu
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02:52:04 <TheHopelessOtaku> :)
02:52:06 <rcmaehl> hmmm
02:52:19 <rcmaehl> where is te program running from?
02:52:22 <TheHopelessOtaku> it always has a problem updating
02:52:27 <rcmaehl> pc or usb
02:52:33 <TheHopelessOtaku> pc
02:52:44 <TheHopelessOtaku> should i try installing onto usb?
02:53:01 <rcmaehl> try it and tell me if you still get that error
02:53:11 <TheHopelessOtaku> should i change some configuration in the xml?
02:53:42 <rcmaehl> TheHopelessOtaku: what do you mean?
02:54:11 <TheHopelessOtaku> it says something about the xml
02:54:15 <TheHopelessOtaku> items.xml
02:54:31 <TheHopelessOtaku> so some of the markup inside it could be changed to fix my problem
02:54:42 <TheHopelessOtaku> idk
02:54:43 <TimClark> rcmaehl: do you know anything about this app, have you used it?
02:54:44 <rcmaehl> yeah It's either missing or there's some other problme
02:54:47 <TheHopelessOtaku> ill install to usb
02:54:52 <rcmaehl> TimClark: some
02:55:16 <TimClark> TheHopelessOtaku: how are you trying to "update it" ?
02:55:34 <TheHopelessOtaku> when i connect to the server
02:55:43 <TheHopelessOtaku> it has a rewuired up date
02:55:57 <TheHopelessOtaku> and when i try to play anyway it makes this error
02:56:12 <TimClark> you should update it from our site when MaienM|Sleep posts an update
02:56:13 <TheHopelessOtaku> http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=zrazgnk4zyu&thumb=4
02:56:41 <TimClark> MaienM|Sleep: is the developer of the portableversion, you shuld consult with him when he is available
02:57:06 <TheHopelessOtaku> hes sleeping at 9:56? lol :D
02:57:17 <TheHopelessOtaku> this is why i abandoned irc
02:57:27 <TheHopelessOtaku> :|
02:58:01 <rcmaehl> O_O
02:58:05 <Bensawsome> TheHopelessOtaku he lives in europe
02:58:05 <rcmaehl> try exilenet
02:58:14 <TheHopelessOtaku> oh
02:58:23 <Bensawsome> its like 3 am their or something
02:58:41 <TimClark> He is on alot of the time TheHopelessOtaku , he is likely to be on tomorrow
02:58:42 <TheHopelessOtaku> hubbard.freenode.net [Pittsburgh, PA, US]
02:58:48 <TheHopelessOtaku> oh thats the server location
02:58:58 <TheHopelessOtaku> lol sorry
02:59:09 <TheHopelessOtaku> hey thats why im hopless
02:59:24 <TheHopelessOtaku> see just to prove it i spelled hopeless wrong
02:59:49 <TimClark> I am sure he will be able to help you when he is availble TheHopelessOtaku , check back tomorrow
02:59:58 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok thanks
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10:30:10 <barjavel.freenode.net> Users on #portableapps: palogbot spectrum1 Darwin4Ever BjornH Bensawsome rouilj1 Suiseiseki +ZachThibeau +GizmoBot @Gizmokid2005|AFK MaienM|Sleep SrgSiler|Sleep Mir
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11:44:58 <SteveLamerton> Hello ZachThibeau, all
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12:33:27 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
12:35:04 <ZachThibeau> could you amend to the topic to add something about not private messaging without permission, it seems it got removed as pa_5031 messaged me privately (while I was afk fortunetly)
12:37:59 *** SteveLamerton changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them."
12:38:15 <SteveLamerton> How is that?
12:39:24 <SteveLamerton> I guess it got removed as it is in the list of Gizmos website, I can't imagine anyone reads that though ;)
12:39:45 <ZachThibeau> how is that you ask, well no matter how I try to put things politely to people who pm me without permission, I sound rather rough without meaning too, and I know chances are slim they'll read the topic but this way we can say it's in the topic
12:41:07 <ZachThibeau> anyways SteveLamerton want to see a new feature I'm developing for PChat :D
12:42:38 <ZachThibeau> it's a theming feature but it's seperate from gtk themes. because the default gtk theme is the ms-windows one and the background is white, this new feature will allow you to change a couple of things you normally can't change in gtk themes without affecting the whole app :D
12:42:54 <ZachThibeau> here is the screenshot :D http://i45.tinypic.com/1198nrc.png
12:43:36 <ZachThibeau> right now only editable via config files in the settings directory but I have to sample color themes made up and this is the dark one I'm showing
12:45:08 <ZachThibeau> adn wow thats the longest I typed xD
12:46:36 <SteveLamerton> Looks neat to me, flexibility is good :D
12:48:34 <SteveLamerton> I have finially has some time for Toucan recently, some neat new stuff nearly finished, hopefully get a dev test out this week :)
12:55:27 <ZachThibeau> :O
12:55:29 <ZachThibeau> cool
12:56:49 <SteveLamerton> Lots of new threading, make it more responsive
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15:07:48 <pa_7350> hi everyone
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15:08:17 <TheHoplessOtaku> hi
15:08:35 <pa_7350> I have a question
15:09:00 <TheHoplessOtaku> im not support
15:09:02 <TheHoplessOtaku> sorry
15:09:05 <pa_7350> Any GPL'd application can be made portable?
15:09:16 <pa_7350> (do you think)
15:09:18 <TheHoplessOtaku> i guess
15:09:34 <pa_7350> no need to ask the author's opinion?
15:09:37 <TheHoplessOtaku> but the way they make the portabaleapps is removing extaneous files
15:09:58 <TheHoplessOtaku> if its GPL its probably open-source
15:10:07 <TheHoplessOtaku> meaning you dont have to ask the author
15:10:24 <pa_7350> so my guess whas right
15:11:17 <pa_7350> *was
15:11:17 <TheHoplessOtaku> yeah
15:11:27 <TheHoplessOtaku> what were you going to make portable
15:11:38 <pa_7350> Oh I love this app
15:11:43 <pa_7350> is a feed reader
15:11:49 <TheHoplessOtaku> oh awesome
15:11:58 <pa_7350> Feedling is the name
15:12:08 <pa_7350> very simple, very nice
15:12:08 <TheHoplessOtaku> ok ill check it out
15:12:15 <pa_7350> unless other readrs
15:12:15 <TheHoplessOtaku> change ur nick
15:12:31 <pa_7350> it shows only haedlines
15:12:45 <TheHoplessOtaku> http://feedling.sourceforge.net/?
15:12:49 <TheHoplessOtaku> ?
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15:12:56 <[john]> yeah
15:13:22 <TheHoplessOtaku> so...
15:13:39 <[john]> it is written in delphi
15:13:55 <TheHoplessOtaku> i have no idea what that is
15:13:58 <[john]> I don't know much of delphi myself
15:14:04 <TheHoplessOtaku> its a programming language
15:14:05 <[john]> :(
15:14:09 <[john]> yes
15:14:11 <TheHoplessOtaku> but i dont know any
15:14:25 <[john]> me either
15:14:28 <[john]> :)
15:14:28 <TheHoplessOtaku> i only know html (embarrasing)
15:14:49 <TheHoplessOtaku> and some css..i think
15:14:55 <TheHoplessOtaku> i know basic html
15:15:17 <[john]> well... imagine i would make my own portable version
15:15:23 <[john]> of Feedling
15:15:25 <TheHoplessOtaku> like heading, paragraph, tables, lists, forms(HARD!)
15:15:30 <TheHoplessOtaku> its gpl?
15:15:37 <[john]> I supppose I could use the binaries
15:16:08 <TheHoplessOtaku> no windows 7? :(
15:16:23 <[john]> no, i'm on xp
15:16:30 <TheHoplessOtaku> sorry i have windows 7
15:16:38 <TheHoplessOtaku> no i wqas looking at feedling
15:17:05 <[john]> can't you just install it in compatibility mode?
15:17:34 <TheHoplessOtaku> msi doesnt work in compatibility mode
15:17:40 <TheHoplessOtaku> it sayss that
15:17:46 <[john]> ops...
15:17:52 <[john]> :(
15:17:57 <TheHoplessOtaku> anyway
15:18:17 <TheHoplessOtaku> most progrms dont need to be in compatibility mode
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15:18:35 <pa_0273> hi
15:18:40 <[john]> so it's just the old msi installer model
15:18:41 <TheHoplessOtaku> exept programs that were instaslled specificaly for windows xp
15:18:51 <[john]> hi
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15:19:35 <TheHoplessOtaku> lol
15:19:42 <TheHoplessOtaku> did we scare him?
15:19:53 <[john]> probably
15:19:56 <[john]> :)
15:20:14 <[john]> I'm gonna open a thread
15:20:16 <TheHoplessOtaku> so like all my portable apps from my flash drive had to be used in compatibility mode
15:20:26 <TheHoplessOtaku> but it didnt have to be
15:20:34 <TheHoplessOtaku> in compatibility
15:20:55 <TheHoplessOtaku> they have something better than copatibility mode now
15:21:17 <[john]> sure thing, Seven is more compliant than Vista
15:21:30 <TheHoplessOtaku> u can use windows xp inside windows 7 with a program released by microsoft
15:21:37 <TheHoplessOtaku> SO TRUE
15:21:46 <[john]> So I've heard
15:21:53 <TheHoplessOtaku> i never had compatibility problems with 7
15:22:29 <TheHoplessOtaku> i heard that if you ut a windows 98 cd in vista
15:22:40 <TheHoplessOtaku> it like pops outta the drive or something
15:22:47 <[john]> LOL
15:22:50 <TheHoplessOtaku> not true probably
15:23:12 <[john]> but very funny
15:23:14 <TheHoplessOtaku> but still THATS how uncompatible it is
15:23:41 <[john]> ok Otaku
15:23:45 <TheHoplessOtaku> i bet someone has a cutt up face cuz of that
15:23:46 <[john]> i'm on my way
15:23:52 <[john]> good day to you
15:23:59 <TheHoplessOtaku> putting up a thread?
15:24:00 <[john]> ciao
15:24:07 <[john]> yeah
15:24:23 <[john]> as soon as possible
15:24:26 <[john]> ;)
15:24:40 <TheHoplessOtaku> hey do u want want me to help?
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15:25:50 <[john]> try the app, and if you like it join the dscussion
15:25:55 <[john]> ok?
15:26:07 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
15:26:14 <[john]> goodbye
15:26:21 <TheHopelessOtaku> bye
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15:32:41 * TheHopelessOtaku is bored
15:32:47 <TheHopelessOtaku> help!
15:33:09 <TheHopelessOtaku> help!
15:33:15 <TheHopelessOtaku> its not working
15:33:34 <TheHopelessOtaku> im gonna go back to getting a webhost
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15:43:47 <TheHopelessOtaku> :'
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15:51:19 <TheHopelessOtaku> hi
15:51:30 <TheHopelessOtaku> lawl ur a bot
15:51:48 <TheHopelessOtaku> i thought u were one of those talking ones like PPNBorg on bulbapedia
15:51:59 <TheHopelessOtaku> i mean pokecommunity
15:59:25 <MaienM|Sleep> TheHopelessOtaku: what can we help you with?
16:01:05 <TheHopelessOtaku> hi
16:01:16 <TheHopelessOtaku> oh i finally got u awake
16:01:19 <TheHopelessOtaku> :)
16:01:26 <TheHopelessOtaku> themanaworld portable
16:01:38 <MaienM|Sleep> ah :)
16:01:42 <MaienM|Sleep> what is the problem with it?
16:01:58 <TheHopelessOtaku> oh so
16:02:09 <TheHopelessOtaku> one second lemme get the link
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16:03:03 <TheHopelessOtaku> http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=zrazgnk4zyu&thumb=4
16:03:18 <TheHopelessOtaku> ^
16:03:39 <TheHopelessOtaku> thats an error i get when i load themanaworld and login
16:03:51 <TheHopelessOtaku> ive never played it before but i made an account
16:04:01 <TheHopelessOtaku> so when i login thats what happens
16:04:26 <MaienM> looks like the tmw server is down
16:04:30 <MaienM> one second, I'll check
16:05:07 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
16:06:36 <MaienM> seems to be working now for me, can you try again and see if the problem is still there?
16:06:40 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
16:06:42 <TheHopelessOtaku> but
16:10:08 <TheHopelessOtaku> nope not fixed
16:10:16 <TheHopelessOtaku> why does it need to update?
16:10:46 <MaienM> so it has the newest images and such needed for the game
16:11:09 <TheHopelessOtaku> so if someone had them i could modify my AppData
16:11:29 <TheHopelessOtaku> so that it has them
16:11:46 <TheHopelessOtaku> so f someone had the pictures could they archive them
16:11:54 <TheHopelessOtaku> or it said it needed an xml
16:12:06 <TheHopelessOtaku> could i edit the parameters inside the xml
16:12:08 <TheHopelessOtaku> ?
16:12:15 <MaienM> are you perhaps behind at school/work or another place where the internet connection is filtered?
16:12:24 <TheHopelessOtaku> no
16:12:39 <MaienM> then I wonder why it isn't working for you
16:12:56 <MaienM> have you tried reinstalling it?
16:13:00 <TheHopelessOtaku> yes
16:13:04 <TheHopelessOtaku> i just did
16:13:21 <TheHopelessOtaku> it doesnt work from my pc hardrive or a usb sam error
16:14:05 <MaienM> weird :/
16:14:34 <TheHopelessOtaku> items.xml
16:14:46 <TheHopelessOtaku> maybe you can give me the latest items.xml?
16:15:40 <MaienM> it doesn't look like it gets stored
16:15:51 <TheHopelessOtaku> idk
16:16:01 <MaienM> my guess it it is a file that get downloaded from the server that contains the list of updates
16:16:11 <MaienM> so storing it makes no sense
16:16:34 <MaienM> I'm currently checking their forums to see if they have any information about this issue
16:17:39 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
16:19:38 <MaienM> TheHopelessOtaku: I am assuming you are trying to connect with the default/official server, server.themanaworld.org, right?
16:20:42 <TheHopelessOtaku> yes
16:20:52 <MaienM> try deleting your Data folder
16:21:00 <TheHopelessOtaku> ?
16:21:01 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
16:21:15 <TheHopelessOtaku> well ill cut it somewhere else incase i need it later
16:21:28 <MaienM> k
16:22:09 <TheHopelessOtaku> same problem
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16:24:59 <pa_9463> sorry
16:25:00 <pa_9463> that was wierd
16:25:06 <pa_9463> wha
16:25:13 <pa_9463> kick thehopelessotaku
16:25:17 <pa_9463> im him
16:25:22 <pa_9463> but it says im still on
16:25:32 <pa_9463> MaienM: ?
16:26:02 <MaienM> the connection will die by itself eventually
16:26:13 <MaienM> even if I kick it the name will still be in ude
16:26:15 <MaienM> *use
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16:27:00 <MaienM> there you go
16:27:02 <pa_9463> ok
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16:27:22 <TheHopelessOtaku> that used to always happen
16:27:40 <MaienM> pa_9463: could you post your tmw.log file (should be in the Data folder) on pastebin or something similiar?
16:27:41 <TheHopelessOtaku> another reason i abandoned irc :-/
16:27:55 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
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16:29:44 <MaienM> brb, time for diner
16:30:28 <TheHopelessOtaku> http://www.pastebin.com/m5b83be3b
16:30:32 <TheHopelessOtaku> k
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16:33:18 <TheHopelessOtaku> hi
16:33:28 <TheHopelessOtaku> ur website IS awesome
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16:34:05 <Xenon54> could someone please answer a quick question about portable firefox?
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16:35:15 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
16:35:26 <TheHopelessOtaku> i think i might be a ble to answer
16:35:35 <TheHopelessOtaku> im not support but what?
16:35:38 <Xenon54> so I'm trying to get java to work. I understand FF3.6 has issues with java...
16:35:53 <TheHopelessOtaku> what do u need to use on java?
16:36:02 <TheHopelessOtaku> .jars
16:36:07 <TheHopelessOtaku> irc
16:36:10 <Xenon54> a .jar
16:36:11 <TheHopelessOtaku> what?
16:36:24 <TheHopelessOtaku> umm portableapps has a jar loader
16:37:09 <Xenon54> it's embedded in a webpage. an applet, I guess it's called
16:37:32 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
16:37:46 <Gizmokid2005> Xenon54: unless java is installed on the local PC, it won't work.
16:37:46 <Xenon54> Java appears in my tools -> plugins and is not disabled but when the page loads I get a black box
16:38:00 <Xenon54> it works in other browsers on the PC, just not portable firefox
16:38:10 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
16:38:13 <TheHopelessOtaku> but um
16:38:17 <TheHopelessOtaku> 3.6?
16:38:19 <Xenon54> yes
16:38:28 <TheHopelessOtaku> maybe you oughtta use 3.5
16:38:35 <TheHopelessOtaku> i use that
16:38:35 <Xenon54> yeah, I've been thinking about that
16:38:47 <Gizmokid2005> it should work fine, it does for me..odd
16:38:47 <TheHopelessOtaku> maybe you can swap some data
16:38:50 <Xenon54> is there really any security risk that comes from downgrading?
16:39:03 <TheHopelessOtaku> like switch the plugin loader of 3.5 with 3.6
16:39:04 <Gizmokid2005> there's always security updates in newer versions
16:39:17 <Gizmokid2005> but since 3.5 is still maintained, you should be OK
16:39:36 <Xenon54> OK, I guess I'll try 3.5 then. thanks
16:39:44 <TheHopelessOtaku> ok
16:39:59
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16:42:12 <pa_6629> hi is sunbird free?
16:43:15 <Gizmokid2005> pa_6629: all our apps are.
16:43:19 <pa_6629> thx
16:43:24 <pa_6629> bye
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16:49:01 <TheHopelessOtaku> do we ever do anything but answer other peoples questions here?
16:49:48 <Gizmokid2005> TheHopelessOtaku: not here, no. Not usually
16:49:55 <Gizmokid2005> other chatter is in #portableapps-ot
16:52:09 <Computator> i never see anything in there thiugh, but that might just be me
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16:52:39 <Computator> though*
16:52:52 <Gizmokid2005> Computator: it's usually pretty quiet. Has been for a while
16:53:01 <Computator> oh ok
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17:10:48 <pa_0957> MaienM: sre you back
17:10:56 <pa_0957> from dinner?
17:11:17 <MaienM> pa_0957: yes
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17:11:21 <TheHopelesOtaku> ok
17:11:23 <TheHopelesOtaku> so
17:11:35 <MaienM> I'm afraid I don't have any solutions for you though
17:11:43 <MaienM> I suggest posting in their forums for help
17:11:52 <MaienM> they might be able to help more
17:12:04 <TheHopelesOtaku> http://www.pastebin.com/m5b83be3b
17:12:08 <TheHopelesOtaku> you saw my log?
17:12:12 <MaienM> yes, I did
17:12:27 <MaienM> I suggest posting in their forums: http://forums.themanaworld.org/
17:12:32 <TheHopelesOtaku> hmm ok thanks
17:13:03 <TheHopelesOtaku> i think it might be a filter
17:13:03 <MaienM> also add the log file to your post/link to it so they can take a look at it
17:13:21 <TheHopelesOtaku> thanks though.
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18:04:46 <JohnTHaller> hola
18:05:29 <sar3th> hello JohnTHaller
18:05:35 <JohnTHaller> how goes it?
18:05:54 <JohnTHaller> I posted a poll around Audaicty stable vs beta, so looking for thoughts: http://portableapps.com/node/22683
18:08:56 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: did i express this clearly and nicely http://portableapps.com/node/22678#comment-142925
18:09:07 <TimClark> feel free to correct me if needed
18:12:15 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
18:12:48 <JohnTHaller> TimClark: We accept commercial apps in PAF now, they need to contact us for permission.
18:12:56 <JohnTHaller> how goes it ZachThibeau
18:13:10 <ZachThibeau> not bad, adding some new stuff to pchat
18:14:08 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: would you like me to add the contact information, if so please give it to me please
18:14:20 <JohnTHaller> link to the contact page, business development.
18:17:46 <TimClark> comment updated
18:18:07 <TimClark> if you want more/differnet let me know
18:18:14 <JohnTHaller> that works, TimClark
18:19:15 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: here is a preview of PChat's latest development so far, http://i45.tinypic.com/1198nrc.jpg it's basically a seperate theming option so that people that don't like the white background (IE if it's too hard to see etc) can just change that part basically like an accessability theme
18:19:41 <JohnTHaller> cool. it's not the default though, right?
18:21:24 <ZachThibeau> no not default
18:21:31 <ZachThibeau> it's a seperate conf file
18:21:34 <JohnTHaller> nice
18:21:40 <JohnTHaller> so you think we're good to go on pchat?
18:21:52 <ZachThibeau> I think so
18:22:08 <ZachThibeau> no major bugs reported
18:22:12 <JohnTHaller> alright... let's consider a release this week after I get things up to date and post platform/suite 1.6.1
18:22:22 <ZachThibeau> cool
18:23:42 <ZachThibeau> the next release of PChat includes some stuff for ircd-seven too thats not included with the current release of PChat, iirc by next week I'll be ready for another release all depending if I can get the theming stuff finalized
18:24:10 <JohnTHaller> Do we want to offer a local install version of it, too?
18:24:53 <ZachThibeau> local install? you mean the desktop version? sure if you want but I offer those at pchat-irc.com already
18:25:14 <JohnTHaller> Ok
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18:28:06 <rcmaehl> CAn be PAP be encyrpted?
18:28:17 <JohnTHaller> The platform itself?
18:32:30 <rcmaehl> the files
18:32:47 <rcmaehl> and tyhe platform
18:32:58 <JohnTHaller> Best thing to do is use TrueCrypt or FreeOTFE to encrypt the whole drive. It will only work on PCs you have admin rights on, though.
18:33:06 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: You've been around for this discussion more than once...
18:33:13 * rcmaehl uses bitlocker
18:33:27 <JohnTHaller> Other option is to keep your important bits in something that's an encrypted store... like KeePass. And the password manager in Firefox.
18:33:39 <JohnTHaller> Bitlocker is not an option for removable media, if I recall correctly.
18:34:04 <rcmaehl> Gizmokid2005: I have never asked about encyrtion,
18:34:20 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: you have, and you've been around during other discussions
18:35:04 <rcmaehl> >.< Damn you memory
18:35:10 <rcmaehl> Srry
18:37:40 <rcmaehl> I got only 2 hours of sleep last night so I'm a little grumpy
18:39:57 <ZachThibeau> then get some sleep
18:40:32 <ZachThibeau> :P
18:40:42 <rcmaehl> Can't have to watch my 6 ur old sister for 5 hours
18:40:50 <rcmaehl> yr*
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18:44:30 <pa_9338> Hello
18:44:47 <JohnTHaller> hi pa_9338, how can we help you?
18:46:15 <pa_9338> oh, thank You. I need a little more time because i am a german (hope you understand me :-) )
18:47:06 <JohnTHaller> Yup, we can understand you. What do you need help with?
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18:50:02 <pa_9338> i have a generell question. We have installed NVU and inserted the german chrome-folder for a german version. Now the question: can we place that NVU-Version with the portable-apps-loader on our page for free download?
18:51:49 <JohnTHaller> Honestly, I'd recommend ditching Nvu entirely. It's horribly outdated and no longer supported. KompoZer is what we do now. If you'd like to do a build of KompoZer with the German translation file... or even point me to the right place to get it and how to do it... we'll package and host it and you can redistribute it.
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18:58:22 <pa_9338> @JohnThaller : Wow. Sounds verry good. I will have a look at the KompoZer. I have seen it but never tested. NVU is really horribly but our users need it only to change some text.
19:00:07 <JohnTHaller> KompoZer is the updated version of Nvu. They had to change the name because Nvu is trademarked. The current version fixes many of the bugs and adds some features, but it is still pre-1.0, so it doesn't have full translations. The author is still working on it, though.
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19:03:02 <TimClark> pa_9338: anything else we can help you with ?
19:03:43 <pa_7597> Hi, is there someone from portableapps crew?
19:03:50 <pa_9338> If you can tell me where i can find the language-file and how to modify it; I will have a look (i need time). How can i contact you again?
19:04:07 <TimClark> pa_7597: please stand by
19:04:51 <JohnTHaller> pa_9338: Looks like they have builds up for the 0.8b1 release. We may switch to it as it is in many ways more stable than the last stable release.
19:04:58 <JohnTHaller> pa_7597: How can we help you?
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19:06:07 <TimClark> ok burtek your set, go ahead
19:07:33 <burtek> I just wanted to tell you, that I downloaded Portable Apps Creator just few minutes ago and my Anti-virus found an VB-OBY Trojan virus when downloading...
19:07:49 <burtek> I thought you might want to know about this...
19:08:13 <JohnTHaller> In the main installer... or in one of the apps after you installed it?
19:08:20 <JohnTHaller> And which antivirus are you using?
19:08:31 <burtek> in the main installer
19:08:35 <burtek> Avast! 5.0
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19:09:22 <JohnTHaller> I just scanned the installer with Avast and it says it's clean.
19:09:30 <JohnTHaller> You sure you have the current set of definitions?
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19:09:38 <burtek> yes
19:09:44 <burtek> 100%
19:09:58 <rcmaehl> Hold on, I can check via virustotal
19:10:23 <JohnTHaller> I'm running Avast 5.0.418 with definitions 100221-0 on Windows 7 Ultimate and it says it's clean.
19:10:36 <rcmaehl> http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/3bb87921c0b027ad81d67e3520b8ac9ce93b80ec9db13f85c561580e712dc2cf-1264446371 <- clean
19:11:12 <burtek> right, so I might have soething with avast or something joined the file when downloading...
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19:11:31 <TimClark> rcmaehl: that is a jan 25 scan, to be safe you should upload a fresh copy
19:11:41 <JohnTHaller> rcmaehl: He's talkiong about the installed to the music suite
19:12:19 <rcmaehl> k
19:12:30 <rcmaehl> scanning
19:13:07 <pa_9338> Thank you and good-by. I'll be back.
19:13:20 <JohnTHaller> pa_9338: You're welcome
19:13:39 <JohnTHaller> burtek: ClamWin also lists it as clean. Can you check the MD5 sum of your downloaded installer?
19:14:00 <burtek> how?
19:14:35 <ZachThibeau> winmd5 from the apps list is a good md5 check tool
19:14:43 <burtek> well, not really... it's deleted by avaast!
19:15:09 <rcmaehl> Or you coulduse thge hash my file app
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19:15:40 <burtek> next time i will try to be faster than avast
19:15:48 <burtek> ;)
19:16:11 <JohnTHaller> Hang on, I'm gonna scan a bit more... please hold.
19:16:39 <rcmaehl> burtek: did you get the installer from sourgeforge?
19:16:48 <TimClark> rcmaehl: please step back, JohnTHaller is handling this
19:16:59 <rcmaehl> TimClark: k
19:18:03 <burtek> yes. well, I've downloaded again and it's clean now... so as i said: something must have joined the file when downloading file...
19:18:29 <JohnTHaller> Ah. weird.
19:18:38 <burtek> yeah...
19:19:02 <JohnTHaller> I hate that Avast has no option but to move a possibly infected file. I much prefer AntiVir of the free ones. It has fewer false positives, too.
19:19:16 <burtek> so, problem solved... ;). I'm leaving. Thanks and see you!
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19:20:40 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
19:20:44 <JohnTHaller> hi SteveLamerton
19:20:54 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
19:21:00 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
19:21:18 <rcmaehl> Wb SteveLamerton
19:21:37 <SteveLamerton> Wow, busy in here now, hi JohnTHaller, ZachThibeau, Gizmokid2005, rcmaehl
19:24:29 <ZachThibeau> a little busy yes :P working on finalizing a few things for a possible PChat beta that I may unleash next week
19:25:21 <ZachThibeau> another thing I'm trying to get working is Spell Checking, libsexy compiles and works in PChat but it's not picking up aspell properly, another thing zed patched and never released :/
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19:50:45 <SteveLamerton> Would anyone mind running a quick test for me?
19:50:51 <JohnTHaller> Sup SteveLamerton
19:51:58 <SteveLamerton> Just been working on some new Toucan stuff, specifically a new directory browsing control that makes heavy use of threading, it now runs fine on my machine but I could do with a couple of people to install a test version and make sure that it works ;)
19:53:10 <JohnTHaller> I have Win7 ultimate 64. would that help?
19:54:30 <SteveLamerton> Sure, anything is good, I am putting together an installer now
19:55:08 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: I have win7 ultimate 32bit so I'm willing to test too :D
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19:58:15 <SteveLamerton> Installer here: http://drop.io/toucantest/asset/toucantest-3-0-development-test-2-paf-exe If you wouldnt mind using the computer browser on the left hand side of the backup or secure tab that would be great!
20:00:49 <JohnTHaller> Seems to work fine. Is missing stuff like "Desktop", "My Documents", etc that some users may expect though
20:01:40 <SteveLamerton> Yes, they are still to be added, not in the old control either, but at least I can add them to my own
20:02:09 <JohnTHaller> Files to Secure is only showing the file or folder name... no path info. just fyi. guessing that's not done yet
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20:09:03 <SteveLamerton> Indeed not quite yet, getting there though :) Anyone else take a look?
20:09:47 <JohnTHaller> SteveLamerton: what other OS testing do you need vs what's done?
20:10:38 <SteveLamerton> Nothing too specific at the moment to be honest, I have done 7 & Vista, my XP VM is broken at the moment so if someone could take a look on one that would be great
20:10:50 <SteveLamerton> And it works pretty good on Ubuntu too ;)
20:11:36 <JohnTHaller> hang on
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20:17:59 <JohnTHaller> and back. had to update virtualbox
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20:20:48 <JohnTHaller> SteveLamerton: Toucan won't run on XP. "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0150002). Click OK to termine the application"
20:20:57 <JohnTHaller> I won't test on Win2k as it'll probably be the same
20:21:07 <SteveLamerton> Ok, cheers, I'll have to sort out my VM then, thanks John
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20:22:24 <SteveLamerton> Hmmm, looks like a C Runtime Error, but I thought it was set up to statically link!
20:23:08 <JohnTHaller> You sure you have the runtimes included?
20:24:10 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I'll check it out when I get the VM up again, should be able to do that tomorrow
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20:29:08 <pa_8569> hi
20:29:19 <pa_8569> any one can help me?
20:29:33 <Oni-Neoxes> What seems to be the Problem pa_8569?
20:30:11 <TimClark> what do you need pa_8569 ?
20:31:15 <pa_8569> hi
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20:31:21 <pa_8569> I need a link to PortableApps.com Platform 2.0 Beta 4 Testing
20:31:42 <pa_8569> I am in iran and sourceforg has been banned for my country
20:32:00 <pa_8569> gluxon : can you help me again?
20:32:30 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: are we allowed to do this ?
20:32:59 <pa_8569> to what?
20:34:10 <TimClark> I am unsure as to if it would be right for this channel to provid access to something the main site can't
20:34:18 <TimClark> I don't know
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20:34:52 <pa_8569> gluxon ?
20:35:26 <pa_8569> I allready did it
20:35:31 <pa_8569> and here
20:35:41 <TimClark> I can't say officially in public as I am unsure... but the basics would be that anyone who is outside the US could assist, legally. I think
20:35:49 <pa_8569> gluxon did help me
20:36:02 <TimClark> gluxon is not the one to make those decisons
20:36:26 <TimClark> if he does so he should do so privatly so he would be responsilbe
20:36:29 <pa_8569> so right
20:36:42 <pa_8569> it is the meaning of opensource
20:36:46 <JohnTHaller> Basically, it is illegal for any of us in the United States to assist you, unfortunately. It's entirely outside of our control.
20:36:49 <TimClark> but he should be careful of US law
20:37:07 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: but anyone outside of the US could assist, right?
20:37:16 <JohnTHaller> Anyone in the US can be subject to substantial fines and lengthy imprisonment.
20:37:39 <JohnTHaller> Anyone outside of the US can do as they wish, but we are not involved in it.
20:37:50 <pa_8569> can you tell me how I can find a people outside of us?
20:37:53 <JohnTHaller> We meaning PA.c proper.
20:38:17 <pa_8569> thanks
20:38:31 <pa_8569> I don;t need your help
20:38:40 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: Are you outside the US?
20:38:45 <TimClark> pa_8569: a non US person wants to know if they cna pm you
20:38:45 <MaienM> yes
20:38:45 <pa_8569> this is my problem
20:39:53 <pa_8569> MaienM : you wanna help me?
20:39:58 <MaienM> no, this is your country's problem, you're just a victim of that ;)
20:40:08 <MaienM> pa_8569: hang on, I'm fixing up a link for you
20:40:08 <JohnTHaller> It's not that we don't want to help or agree/disagree with the law. It's the simple fact that so much as providing you a link to a server in Germany is apparently illegal under US law.
20:40:51 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: would PMing him the link be acceptable?
20:41:03 <JohnTHaller> I can't be involved MaienM. At all.
20:41:13 <MaienM> k, understood
20:41:21 <pa_8569> hey guys
20:41:30 <pa_8569> noproblem
20:41:38 <pa_8569> I will fix it
20:42:04 <pa_8569> thanks all for your helping
20:42:19 <JohnTHaller> For anyone else curious why this is so absurd, we have an explanation here: http://portableapps.com/node/22511
20:44:32 <Gizmokid2005> it's just another one of those "wonderful" provisions put in place by our WONDERFUL US administration....
20:45:36 <pa_8569> and you havn't any explanation or Idea to solve problems like me?
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20:47:05 <JohnTHaller> It isn't the current administration. This has been on the books for a LONG time. The current blocks were implemented by Clinton and Bush.
20:47:58 <MaienM> I'm sorry pa_8569, our hands are tied... this is all legal/political stuff and we just have to abide by those rules set, whether we like them or not
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21:06:34 <TimClark> I just hate that ping timeout, happens to me a lot
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21:11:43 <TimClark> hello pa_2982 , just dropping by or can we help you with something today ?
21:13:32 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: never said it was the current one ;)
21:13:41 <Gizmokid2005> Our administration needs some help with priorities
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21:16:35 <TimClark> Well pa_2982 if you should have a question or concern feel free to jump in, I will be leaving shortly but others are here to help :D
21:17:15 <pa_2982> I am so sorry
21:17:22 <pa_2982> excuse me
21:17:45 <TimClark> no problem, take your time
21:18:34 <pa_2982> maienm : can I have your gtalk or yahoo mesenger ID?
21:19:09 <MaienM> pa_2982: I'm sorry, but I prefer to keep those private
21:19:25 <pa_2982> why?
21:20:08 <TimClark> pa_2982: all members have the right to keep personal information like that or email private
21:20:26 <pa_2982> yes I know
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21:31:27 <TimClark> later dudes
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22:11:37 <gluxon> MaienM: Wait, I thought you were in Europe?
22:11:56 <MaienM> I am
22:12:26 <MaienM> also, gluxon, you should be careful about helping that person in the future, as discussed it could get you in serious problems
22:12:46 <gluxon> Sorry, I didn't realize it was illegal for me to help him :(
22:13:14 <MaienM> you don't have to be sorry, I'm just reminding you for your own sake
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22:13:41 <JacobMastel> Hola
22:13:46 <MaienM> hello JacobMastel
22:14:00 <JacobMastel> How's it going MaienM?
22:14:11 <MaienM> pretty good
22:14:13 <MaienM> with you?
22:14:37 <gluxon> Well, there's PortableApps.com mirrors here --> http://mirror.unej.ac.id/mirrors/portable/
22:14:42 <JacobMastel> I'm doing well. It's been a long time since I've done anything with NSIS... I'm working on my old Stickies launcher now that we finally support freeware :D'
22:14:46 <gluxon> And it's located in Indonesia, would that be legal?
22:14:54 <ZachThibeau> howdy JacobMastel :D
22:15:00 <JacobMastel> Hey Zach
22:15:28 <ZachThibeau> JacobMastel: what irc client do you use?
22:15:40 <MaienM> gluxon: lets take this to PM
22:15:56 <JacobMastel> Miranda why?
22:16:16 <gluxon> Okay.
22:16:28 <ZachThibeau> just wondering if you would like to do some testing on PChat for me
22:16:38 <JacobMastel> I did some earlier it was really glitchy
22:16:48 <JacobMastel> Although I haven't done anything with the pr
22:18:11 <JacobMastel> We're still using this splash screen right? http://portableapps.com/node/9580
22:18:23 <ZachThibeau> well yeah major changes have occured since then, Dev Test 2 fixed ssl issues, Pre-Release nothing really new, it's going to a full release this week but I want to make sure it's solid product
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22:19:14 <ZachThibeau> and yes we are still using that for Dev Tests at least most people are atm
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23:37:11 <JacobMastel> Stickies Portable Alpha 1 http://portableapps.com/node/22688
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