IRC Log from 2010-03-01

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00:14:31 <TimClark> Ok, after 27 submissions the folks at Clam seem to be convinced that the notepad.exe detection was wrong, it should be fixed in Update (daily: 10468), only took 36 hours
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00:31:17 <TimClark> gluxon: PLEASE don't do that
00:31:45 <gluxon> What did I do?
00:31:55 <TimClark> First there is no release team, and i think you know that, it was dead in the water to start with
00:32:12 <TimClark> 2nd, you should not beg for a release
00:32:42 <TimClark> and "I don't care how much work I have to do between now and then" implies speed instead of quality
00:32:55 <TimClark> and we have seen what happens when things are rushed
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00:59:52 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback
00:59:56 <computerfreaker> Hi guys!
01:02:42 <gluxon> Hey computerfreaker :)
01:02:52 <computerfreaker> Hi gluxon!
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02:12:53 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. SITE DOWN CURRENTLY EST FOR SCHED. MAINT! | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them"
02:13:13 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. SITE DOWN FOR SCHED. MAINT! | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them"
02:14:17 <TimClark> .
02:14:23 <TimClark> .
02:14:25 <TimClark> As expect the site is now down, it will be for a few hours
02:14:27 <TimClark> .
02:14:28 <TimClark> .
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02:18:01 <JohnTHaller> hola all
02:18:23 <TimClark> Hello JohnTHaller
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02:18:50 <TimClark> It was just noted that the site is down for maintenance
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02:19:33 <JohnTHaller> It is indeed
02:19:54 <JohnTHaller> It'll be down for a couple hours probably.
02:20:09 <JohnTHaller> Drupal database work is in progress
02:20:21 <TimClark> let's stick with "few" just to be safe :P
02:20:39 <TimClark> but only a couple would be great
02:23:35 <TimClark> love the page by the way
02:24:26 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
02:24:28 <JohnTHaller> Wanted one that looked decent, but simple
02:24:33 <JohnTHaller> hi Gizmokid2005
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02:27:02 <TimClark> it's been fairly quiet in here JohnTHaller , Gizmokid2005 and I thought to hang out in case a bunch of folks started yelling "OMG the site is down"
02:27:31 <TimClark> I take it the upgrade started a little later then planned
02:27:40 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I popped in to make sure some folks are around. I'll have periods where I'm not watching, though, as I'll be fixing things, whacking things with a hammer, etc.
02:27:58 <Gizmokid2005> OH come on TimClark, don't flatter me. I don't have a life and I'm pretty much always around :P
02:28:09 <TimClark> true Gizmokid2005 :P
02:28:18 <Gizmokid2005> sometimes JohnTHaller, you just have to use force, for some reason it just tends to help. lol
02:29:06 <JohnTHaller> sudo?
02:29:29 <Gizmokid2005> sudo listen_to_me works from what I've heard.
02:31:40 <TimClark> sudo?, isn't that the superuser command?
02:31:47 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: yep :)
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02:36:42 <Gizmokid2005> Hello PCJockey - anything we can help you with?
02:37:59 <PCJockey> Actually I think I'm doing pretty well at this point. Although I really appreciate you asking.
02:38:23 <PCJockey> I'll tell you how I have things set up. And you can tell me if I'm an idiot...;-)
02:38:30 <Gizmokid2005> Sure thing. Feel free to hang out, just thought I'd make sure :)
02:39:03 <PCJockey> I only have a 1GB device, so I didn't go toooo crazy installing apps, but I currently have:
02:43:32 <PCJockey> 1) Portable Apps.
02:43:32 <PCJockey> 2) OOo
02:43:32 <PCJockey> 3) KeePass (Both 1.17 & 2.09) I'm used to 2.09, so I'll use it anywhere the environment can, but have 1.17 for cases where it can't.
02:43:32 <PCJockey> 4) FF
02:43:32 <PCJockey> 5) Thunderbird
02:43:33 <PCJockey> 6) Coolplayer +
02:43:33 <PCJockey> 7) Eraser Drop
02:43:34 <PCJockey> 8) Mines-Perfect
02:43:34 <PCJockey> 9) Sunbird
02:43:35 <PCJockey> 10) Notepad ++ (I use this as a Notepad replacement on my desktop too, it's so awesome)
02:43:35 <PCJockey> 11) Pidgin
02:43:36 <PCJockey> 12) SpyDLLRemover
02:43:36 <PCJockey> 13) Sudoku
02:43:37 <PCJockey> 14) Sumatara PDF
02:43:46 <PCJockey> Wow, sorry I should have posted that differently...sorry.
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02:53:46 <Gizmokid2005> it's ok PCJockey, pastebin is a good place for that, just remember in the future ;)
02:54:13 <PCJockey> You got it!
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02:54:58 <Gizmokid2005> thanks :D
02:55:09 <Gizmokid2005> nice collection as well
02:55:40 <Gizmokid2005> my list would be huge.
02:55:57 <PCJockey> Woot. Hopefully it will serve me well when traveling. Yeah, I bet you have more than a 1GB device then!
02:56:49 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah, I had to drop using a flash drive altogether
02:57:07 <Gizmokid2005> I kept killing even good drives like a Corsair Flash Voyager GT
02:57:34 <Gizmokid2005> I'm currently using a 160GB 2.5" Ext HDD, with a 20GB TrueCrypt file for my portableapps, just in case I lose my drive somewhere
02:57:53 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I'm out for a bit while working on the DB. Back later
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02:58:01 <PCJockey> I'd really rather get a nice laptop with cellular internet access, but that's just not in the budget.
02:58:41 <Gizmokid2005> nah, i don't want to have to pay for a cellphone data plan for my computer, i have my Nokia N900 for when I really need internet when I don't have my laptop
02:58:47 <PCJockey> VN. That's actually a pretty cool way to roll though. You have everything I have other than you can't hang it around your neck.
02:59:04 <Gizmokid2005> exactly, I just have a little case I can clip to my belt-loop for it.
02:59:30 <PCJockey> Yeah, I have a Palm smart phone, but I'd rather use a larger device & do more.
03:00:08 <PCJockey> That's sweet. talk about convenient. I'm guessing you've been at it a while though. I just started this a few days ago.
03:00:14 <Gizmokid2005> Last year I finally decided to get into smartphone
03:00:26 <Gizmokid2005> and started off with the ATT branded Nokia E71(x).
03:00:39 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah, I've been around going on 3 years now.
03:00:54 <PCJockey> Android OS is looking interesting to me.
03:01:04 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, each one has its' own quirks
03:01:29 <Gizmokid2005> I think Maemo (well MeeGo now) is the best, it's the most true to the name, OSS/linux OS out there
03:01:32 <PCJockey> That they do. Anything based off a *Nix kernel has so so many options though!
03:01:34 <Gizmokid2005> and it's really nice
03:01:38 <Gizmokid2005> yes it is :)
03:01:50 <Gizmokid2005> I've had this phone almost 3 months and I'm STILL figuring things out.
03:02:07 <Gizmokid2005> I'm quite interested to see what MeeGo is going to bring to the table now.
03:02:23 <PCJockey> I've really been wondering lately if I could truly give up completely on any Win at all.
03:02:32 <Gizmokid2005> I can't
03:02:40 <Gizmokid2005> I run Windows mainly at home on my desktop
03:02:42 <Gizmokid2005> but I'm a gamer
03:02:50 <Gizmokid2005> my laptop is a MacBookPro
03:03:01 <Gizmokid2005> so I've got OSX there, and my VPS is running ubuntu server
03:03:08 <Gizmokid2005> so I use all three, but Windows is my main one.
03:03:21 <PCJockey> I look at what I've paid over the years to Mr. Gates and it hurts. Especially when I compare the quality of Open Source projects to what he's delivered. I really kinda feel like I've been ripped off.
03:04:23 <Gizmokid2005> You're telling me. I haven't had to buy an OS though, in probably 4 years thanks to school and MSDNAA.
03:04:38 <Gizmokid2005> I was lucky enough to get WIn7 Ultimate for $60 because I was a student.
03:04:45 <PCJockey> Win. market penetration is so hard to get around. Even if I did try and to to all open source, I think I'd have to keep a Win VM or something. There will always be something you want to run and just doesn't work or have a replacement anywhere else.
03:04:55 <Gizmokid2005> I haven't bought Office in forever, though I do use office 03 principally.
03:05:02 <Gizmokid2005> exactly.
03:05:41 <PCJockey> VN I'm still w/Vista Ult. At least I only paid the OEM price.
03:05:54 <PCJockey> I miss MSDN.
03:06:14 <PCJockey> I own Office 2007.
03:06:40 <PCJockey> I had 2000 before that. Which I got in a HOT kit. Not too many know what that is though.
03:06:49 <Gizmokid2005> haha yeah. I refused to touch vista with a 100 foot pole. I only had it in a VM for a while so I could be accustomed to it for work (I used to do phone tech support for an ISP. No scripts or anything, just modemhelp's screenshots and my memory.
03:07:09 <Gizmokid2005> I can't say I know what a HOT kit is. I'm not a fan of the whole ribbon menus...so I won't go any higher up than '03.
03:07:36 <PCJockey> VM def. helped you then for that!
03:07:36 <PCJockey> I ended up getting Vista due to timing of when I built this machine.
03:07:59 <Gizmokid2005> ahh yeah.
03:08:06 <Gizmokid2005> my XP keys came from MSDNAA as well
03:08:11 <Gizmokid2005> and when I had my Technet sub.
03:08:34 <PCJockey> HOT is (Hands On Training) Something MS gave for a VERY VERY discounted price a number of years ago to the retail chain. So, I got Office Pro and a few other goodies for like $90.
03:08:38 <Gizmokid2005> my desktop went from an XP Pro SP3 install to a dual boot with WIn7 ultx64, then quickly to a Win7 fulltime machine.
03:08:44 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, that's awesome.
03:09:33 <PCJockey> I wanted an x64 environment but only owned Win 2k at the time Vista was in RC, so I downloaded the RC planning to upgrade to the RTM once it was available. Turned out to be a questionable choice, but no way to know at the time.
03:09:57 <Gizmokid2005> Yep.
03:10:23 <PCJockey> Nice evolution on the desktop. I never owned XP. Of course I also have had to support it more than I care to though...:P
03:10:31 <Gizmokid2005> I just had a feeling that Vista wasn't going to be a good release, so I waited. I watched LOTS of people have LOTS of issues. I sat back with XP and laughed, then Win7 came out, I installed RC and RTM in Boot camp on my mac
03:10:34 <Gizmokid2005> and HAD to use it.
03:10:53 <Gizmokid2005> so then it was an instant jump to Win7 on my desktop
03:10:56 <Gizmokid2005> I loved XP.
03:11:06 <PCJockey> Let me redeem myself. I escaped Millenium....hehe
03:11:14 <Gizmokid2005> of course, I came from running a machine (my parents of course) with ME.
03:11:22 <Gizmokid2005> I hated Mistake Edition with a passion
03:12:01 <TimClark> ok, guys, lets not OS bash, remember PA.c needs windows :P
03:12:11 <PCJockey> I'm actually wondering about using some *nix version and having a VM of ReactOS now. I haven't run ReactOS yet, but it does look interesting.
03:12:31 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: I will need to be away for a while, hold down the fort
03:12:44 <PCJockey> Tim - at least we haven't complained too much about keeping BG rich.
03:13:04 <TimClark> funny :P
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03:13:11 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not bashing TimClark, just saying ME was probably the worst thing MS ever came out with.
03:13:37 <PCJockey> That it was. Makes my Vista look like....okay never mind. I'm bashing j/k
03:13:47 <PCJockey> I look at MS as a love hate relationship.
03:13:54 <Gizmokid2005> PCJockey: I looked at ReactOS a few times, not sure about it though, so if you do ever use it, be sure to let me know. I haven't the guts/patience to set it up in a VM.
03:14:01 <Gizmokid2005> Love to hate them ;)
03:14:18 <PCJockey> I love to hate 'em & I hate to love 'em, but they have been VERY good for the industry oveall.
03:14:52 <Gizmokid2005> That they have. I'd like to see something more open though for sure. They do deserve some kudos, but not too many. Can't give them a bigger ego than they already have;
03:14:58 <PCJockey> I shall let you know if I do (reactos).
03:15:57 <Gizmokid2005> I'm trying to get more into *nix myself. Actually looking at taking up a few classes at the local CC just to get more into it.
03:16:16 <Gizmokid2005> I like to be versed in the stuff I work with, and I can use linux, but I'm still a definite "n00b" when it comes to it.
03:16:32 <Gizmokid2005> google and a few friends have helped...I've learned a lot, just not as much as I want to.
03:16:35 <PCJockey> I was always a supporter of MS. What turned me against them is the ego. Them trying to take over international standards as well as breaking established standards for NO good reason via (sometimes) immoral methods. If they hadn't done that I probably never would have looked at other options!!
03:17:41 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah...they really need to support ODFs a lot more. That has been probnably one of my BIGGEST pet peeves with them.
03:17:45 <Gizmokid2005> *probably
03:18:23 <PCJockey> Yeah well, the whole *nix world really does rock. I'm very excited to see what Ubuntu is doing. I'm not sure I'd ever choose it as my primary OS & I haven't run it at all, but their focus on end users and ease of operation. They really may get enough market share to bring the world into balance.
03:19:01 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah. From what I've heard from users and in a lot of atricles is that 9.10 was a big step backwards for them. 9.04 seems to be /the/ ubuntu version to go for if you want to use it.
03:19:30 <PCJockey> Other things too though. Why do they need their own JScript. Why do they need to break everything vs. use what works and be part of the community. People like me would not dislike them at all if it weren't for that.
03:19:39 <Gizmokid2005> yep.
03:19:46 <Gizmokid2005> I can't stand IE either.
03:20:04 <PCJockey> Ahh, I didn't know that about Abuntu. Oh, yeah, IE. is good for only one site. MS.com...lol
03:20:06 <Gizmokid2005> "special" html codes/parsing/etc...plus the fact that they are always ages behind what's already going on...
03:20:11 <Gizmokid2005> exactly
03:20:14 <Gizmokid2005> that's the ONLY time I use it.
03:20:17 <Gizmokid2005> unless I"m testing.
03:20:32 <PCJockey> As a user I like Opera best, but for development you can't beat the add-ons in FF>
03:21:07 <PCJockey> Yep, I open IE. to verify presentation on my own code and for MS site. That's it.
03:21:36 <Gizmokid2005> I've tried most browsers (at least the main ones, IE, FF, Opera, Netscape (when it was around)) and I'm just a big fan of FF, especially with the Add-ons available.
03:21:51 <Bensawsome> lol netscape
03:22:03 <PCJockey> When I got heavier into dev. I had such a hard time moving off Opera as a daily browsser for me. It has so many effeciency things like the mouse gestures and the right click paste & execute.
03:22:33 <Bensawsome> im mainly with ff and chrome now
03:22:45 <Gizmokid2005> ahh yes, I didn't like chrome much either
03:22:56 <Gizmokid2005> the one thing I wish FF has that it doesn't, is Tabs as processes like Chrome does.
03:23:07 <Bensawsome> i mostly use chrome when i need to open something but dont wanna open ff with my 100s of tabs
03:23:15 <PCJockey> Yeah, FF is my primary now. But I actually have too many Add-ons. I wish they'd come out with a profile feature or something, so you could easily switch between add-on setups. That way when not coding it'd be faster.
03:23:34 <Bensawsome> PCJockey there is a profile manager in ff
03:24:07 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah PCJockey, the Second profile "app" that John put out for PA.c might be good for you.
03:24:37 <PCJockey> *correcting myself. It isn't Paste & execute on Opera it's Paste & Go.
03:25:08 <PCJockey> Really Bensawsome? I feel dumb now. It will let you do what I was saying? Configure diff. Add-on setups?
03:25:58 <Gizmokid2005> PCJockey: you'd actually have separate profiles altogether
03:26:10 <Gizmokid2005> different cookies, bookmarks, password managers, add-ons, etc.
03:26:46 <Gizmokid2005> PCJockey: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/managing+profiles <-- you'll find that useful
03:27:05 <PCJockey> MANY thanks!!
03:27:30 <Gizmokid2005> You could create bat files, or even just another ff shortcut to start the profile manager
03:27:31 <Gizmokid2005> etc.
03:27:33 <Gizmokid2005> it's really useful
03:28:19 <Gizmokid2005> I really like Firebug in FF.
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03:28:26 <PCJockey> I'm def. checking it out!! Waiting for page load right now....Too many things running. I guess I need more than 4GB or RAM.
03:28:32 <Gizmokid2005> Recently started using it when I was working on a new theme for my blog, INFINITELY helpful
03:28:41 <Gizmokid2005> haha, not just you PCJockey
03:28:55 <Gizmokid2005> I was considering upgrading my desktop's Mobo to a more robust one with DDR3 support and going to 8GB ram.
03:29:00 <Gizmokid2005> hello excid3|asus, long time :)
03:29:05 <Gizmokid2005> :P
03:29:08 <excid3|asus> hey
03:29:28 <Gizmokid2005> get your logbot done yet? :P
03:29:32 <PCJockey> Yeah, I have Firebug.
03:29:54 <excid3|asus> too busy
03:30:29 <PCJockey> PortableApps.com Will Be Right Back...
03:32:09 <Gizmokid2005> PCJockey: yep, John is still working on it.
03:32:48 <sar3th> hey thar
03:32:57 <sar3th> i used ie, then ff, then opera
03:33:11 <sar3th> then tried chrome, after that tried ff again
03:33:13 <PCJockey> Opera is so awesome if you don't need dev. tools!
03:33:22 <sar3th> nothing could get me away from opera anymore :D
03:33:39 <sar3th> PCJockey: i an completely statisfied with opera's built-in dev-tools
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03:34:10 <PCJockey> Not even a Tsunami?
03:35:36 <PCJockey> I didn't mean to bash on Opera Sar3th. I love it.
03:36:17 <sar3th> .g opera dragonfly
03:36:18 <GizmoBot> sar3th: http://www.opera.com/dragonfly/
03:36:30 <sar3th> did you try that one PCJockey ?
03:37:12 <PCJockey> No. Looking @ it now.
03:38:20 <PCJockey> I guess I left Opera too soon.
03:39:46 <sar3th> ;D
03:40:52 <PCJockey> Figures. Just when I get in the groove in FF and my Add-ons. I find out my long lost love has caught up to the only reason I left her to begin with!!
03:41:13 <sar3th> lol
03:41:24 <sar3th> i hate the addon part about ff
03:41:38 <sar3th> install 1000 things which slow down your browser to have your essential features in it
03:41:40 <sar3th> :(
03:41:46 <PCJockey> I just don't like that the # of them I need do kill performance.
03:42:02 <PCJockey> lol. Saying same thing.
03:42:10 <sar3th> i tried the release candidate today :)
03:42:36 <PCJockey> All good?
03:44:12 <sar3th> yeah, pretty much the same as the beta
03:44:26 <sar3th> i've been monitoring the release team's updates lately
03:45:13 <sar3th> the search looks great, and the release version will support html5 iirc :D
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03:45:30 <PCJockey> I keep Opera installed, but I haven't paid attention to her in a while. Really only use her when I feel like a good clean browsing experience from time to time and then also anytime verifying new code.
03:46:13 <Gizmokid2005> I'd like to try Opera
03:46:23 <Gizmokid2005> but I'd like a full true Opera Portable version.
03:46:51 <PCJockey> I'm thinking of an Encore for Opera....heehee
03:48:06 <Gizmokid2005> I just never really liked it that much...probably because of all the features that I have with FF and my add-ons
03:48:09 <Gizmokid2005> I think I have nearly 30 installed
03:48:11 <PCJockey> Funny that FF lets you import bookmars from IE or Opera, but not from FF. Unless there is another profile trick I haven't learned yet. This IRC room seems to be the place to find out all I'm naive about....:)
03:48:41 <Gizmokid2005> PCJockey: it's in the bookmark manager
03:48:49 <PCJockey> Yeah, they are both good and bad. But I wouldn't want FF w/o them!
03:48:49 <Gizmokid2005> all you need to import for FF is just a simple HTML page.
03:48:57 <Gizmokid2005> it's very very easy.
03:49:13 <PCJockey> Ahhh, got'cha.
03:49:17 <sar3th> Gizmokid2005: what do you mean with true portable verison of opera?
03:49:51 <Gizmokid2005> sar3th: I know there's Opera@USB, but I mean one like FF portable, that's actually portable and fits within PA.c standards
03:49:53 <Gizmokid2005> and format
03:50:12 <sar3th> well, opera@usb almost does fit our needs
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03:50:20 <sar3th> it's not in PAF, but it works pretty well
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03:51:49 <Gizmokid2005> yeah I know sar3th
03:51:52 <Gizmokid2005> but it's not perfect.
03:51:57 <Gizmokid2005> I'd like it to be close firt
03:51:58 <Gizmokid2005> *first
03:52:34 <sar3th> it IS close XD
03:53:07 <Gizmokid2005> no :P
03:54:55 <PCJockey> *grabs all the loose sticks before anyone else gets the idea*
03:55:06 <PCJockey> Okay your safe. Go at it....hehehe
03:55:22 <Gizmokid2005> lol
03:55:28 <Gizmokid2005> nah, sar3th and I get along :)
03:56:23 <PCJockey> I figured. Just pokin' fun.
03:56:29 <Gizmokid2005> :)
03:56:33 <Gizmokid2005> you'll fit right in here :P
03:57:09 <Gizmokid2005> I should probably start to work on UltraVNC again, and see if I can officially portablize it.
03:57:22 <PCJockey> BooYA *puts down the sticks* man they get heavy faster than you'd think.
03:57:36 <Gizmokid2005> haha, you're telling me. I'm the one always around to keep order.
03:57:57 <PCJockey> ;)
03:57:59 <sar3th> Gizmokid2005: hf with the driver :|
03:58:08 <sar3th> LIES Gizmokid2005 :P
03:58:20 <Gizmokid2005> sar3th: what driver?
03:58:22 <sar3th> you are in charge, but i am around xD
03:58:23 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not talking about the server.
03:58:32 <Gizmokid2005> I'm talking about the viewer
03:58:32 <sar3th> oh ok
03:58:34 <Gizmokid2005> no drivar needed
03:58:36 <sar3th> you need to say that
03:58:39 <PCJockey> VNC is/was so cool. I can't help but see what people like Citrix and logmein are doing as so much easier for the end user to get it.
03:58:59 <Gizmokid2005> I love LogMeIn so much
03:59:06 <Gizmokid2005> plus its so much easier to use, and it's reliable
03:59:13 <Gizmokid2005> you don't have to manually refresh the display, etc.
03:59:23 <Gizmokid2005> Though, their browser plugin for mac is still pretty fail..
03:59:48 <Gizmokid2005> if you CMD+Tab out of the browser while you're full screen in a LMI session, the menubar goes haywire as does the dock.
04:00:20 <PCJockey> Grrr.
04:00:24 <PCJockey> Hate those issues!
04:00:38 <Gizmokid2005> Yep
04:00:49 <Gizmokid2005> and they said it should work but, meh...life goes on.
04:00:57 <Gizmokid2005> Other than that, I really like LMI a lot.
04:01:35 <PCJockey> A guy @ my church likes it and introduced me to it.
04:01:35 <Gizmokid2005> I use it as much as I can...and instead of cluttering up my Home PC or even a VM with work stuff and a VPN I decided to just install LMI on my work PC and use that as my portal
04:01:45 <Gizmokid2005> just leave everything on my Work pc where it belongs :)
04:03:20 <PCJockey> What VM product do you guys prefer? I have gotten by w/o VM's until recently & I'm still not sold on where I'll land as my prefered product. I've been testing various options.
04:03:41 <Gizmokid2005> Once you get over the quirks, VirtualBox works really well
04:03:59 <Gizmokid2005> the only thing I'm not too keen on, is the fact that installation and installation of updates resets all network adapters.
04:04:32 <PCJockey> Yeah, that would suck! I currently have VB installed. Funny you mentioned it first.
04:04:51 <Gizmokid2005> and Seamless mode doesn't seem to work the best in Ubuntu...but other than that, I do like it a lot. I like the whole drag/drop files with virtualPC that VBox doesn't have, but I do believe that was causing random explorer crashes for me in WinXP
04:05:54 <PCJockey> Yeah, well unexplained crashes are BBBBB AAAAAA DDDDDD and not in a Michael Jackson way. Sorry I'm dating myself.
04:06:04 <PCJockey> brb /afk
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04:07:26 <Gizmokid2005> Lol PCJockey|Away - No worries, I'm not that old but I grew up with 70s/80 Rock so...
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04:22:47 <sar3th> wb PCJockey
04:24:22 <PCJockey> Thank you...:)
04:25:21 <sar3th> btw, if you want, you can /join #portableapps-ot so we can keep this channel free for general support :)
04:28:55 <PCJockey> I shall next time.
04:30:03 <TimClark> [ translation, get a room, i mean channel :P ]
04:30:08 <sar3th> lol TimClark
04:30:14 <TimClark> ty, ty, ty
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04:31:43 <TimClark> later dudes
04:31:53 <OliverK> night
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04:32:14 <PCJockey> lol
04:33:17 <Gizmokid2005> Lol
04:33:40 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah, usually we'll keep most chitchat out of here...#portableapps-ot is for that..but it's ok :)
04:33:48 <Gizmokid2005> it's not like we're talking about random stuff
04:34:05 <sar3th> i'm going to bed now, see ya'll l8tr
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04:34:39 <PCJockey> Take care. Nice to meet ya!
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04:35:18 <OliverK> you to PCJockey
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04:38:19 <OliverK> ZachThibeau: just tried the latest pchat w/ strawberry, it dind't work
04:52:54 <Gizmokid2005> alright PCJockey, take care, I'm off to bed
04:52:54 <Gizmokid2005> .t
04:52:54 <GizmoBot> Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:53:37 EST
04:53:11 <PCJockey> Have a GREAT one!!
04:53:18 <PCJockey> I think I'll log too.
04:53:25 <PCJockey> Great chattin' with ya.
04:53:54 <Gizmokid2005> yep :)
04:53:56 <Gizmokid2005> take it easy
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05:07:44 <JohnTHaller> Hey all, mind checking out the site?
05:08:15 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: looks good
05:08:29 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> seem to be working JohnTHaller
05:11:33 <JohnTHaller> Ok, if any issues crop up, please post them here: http://portableapps.com/node/22808
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05:16:20 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!)
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05:21:18 <ChrisMorgan> Eww... I presume the site being bold is merely a matter of waiting for the cache to renew?
05:21:42 <ChrisMorgan> You must be following one of Monash University's slogans: "Go Boldly" :P
05:22:29 <JohnTHaller> Wait, what's bold?
05:22:44 <JohnTHaller> Logged in or not?
05:25:13 <JohnTHaller> Wait, I got it
05:30:03 <ChrisMorgan> Did all go smoothly with the maintenance?
05:30:15 <ChrisMorgan> I was at Uni at the time so I didn't suffer from it being offline
05:30:42 <JohnTHaller> Pretty well. Just a couple more minor issues to iron out, actually. And then we should be good for translating the site.
05:31:00 <ChrisMorgan> Good-o
05:31:17 <ChrisMorgan> I still haven't gone through fixing up what I can with the German site... it needs *lots* of pages added.
05:31:30 <JohnTHaller> Took about 3-4 hours total. Had to manually update some tables to the proper current Drupal setup. Manually stripped out a lot of stuff from old modules and settings.
05:31:43 <JohnTHaller> Oh I know. I had Simeon and Marko waiting until we can do it properly.
05:31:44 <ChrisMorgan> So currently they're separate nodes rather than Drupal 6 node translations?
05:31:50 <ChrisMorgan> OK
05:31:54 <JohnTHaller> Right. Which is why they were waiting.,
05:32:02 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
05:32:24 <JohnTHaller> I'm gonna strip em out and do them as proper translated nodes now, which will make life much easier. Gonna do auto-switching based on prefix.
05:32:33 <ChrisMorgan> Definitely will
05:32:38 <ChrisMorgan> Domain prefix or URL prefix?
05:32:41 <JohnTHaller> There's one more bug around clean URLs I need sorted first.
05:32:52 <ChrisMorgan> What's that?
05:32:53 <JohnTHaller> Probably URL. Not sure if I want 52 different domains.
05:33:08 <JohnTHaller> Custom URL paths. Like /about/contact instead of /noce.678
05:33:13 <JohnTHaller> /node/678 i mean
05:33:42 <JohnTHaller> We got a bug in ours. http://drupal.org/node/728858
05:34:29 <ChrisMorgan> Yes, I've noticed that one.
05:34:48 <JohnTHaller> I pulled all kinds of stuff apart but can't sort where that issue is
05:37:08 <ChrisMorgan> Never had it on a site of mine. I have a few other issues, but never that one.
05:37:52 <ChrisMorgan> On biblecourses.com.au all filters are applied to the textarea's contents when editing the node which destroys things when you next edit them. A real nuisance, no-one's been able to help me.
05:38:07 <JohnTHaller> I've never seen it either. And didn't see an obvious place that would cause it anywhere
05:38:27 <JohnTHaller> Weird, never seen that
05:38:29 <ChrisMorgan> And on my own server Clean URLs cause 404s very occasionally for arbitrary pages - an issue with mod_rewrite as installed on the server, I think.
05:38:40 <ChrisMorgan> bpbible.com and christadelphiansindia.com get hit by that.
05:38:47 <ChrisMorgan> Part of the reason I'm changing hosts.
05:38:59 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. Never seen that on Rackspace.
05:39:44 <ChrisMorgan> Currently with WebHostingBuzz. They lied about "supporting Python" - what they finally admitted to (when I finally got round to needing it) was that that meant that they had the python binaries - but clearly CGI isn't an option for deployment.
05:40:19 <ChrisMorgan> I'm hoping WebFaction will be better.
05:40:31 <ChrisMorgan> They seem to be in pre-sales stuff and reports, anyway.
05:45:07 <ChrisMorgan> I can't do an NSISu build of PAL yet due to this !searchreplace bug (and also !searchparse). Ah well.
05:45:29 <JohnTHaller> what's the bug?
05:48:02 <ChrisMorgan> Messing up strings entirely.
05:48:25 <ChrisMorgan> Replace .nsh with null in ${__FILE__} (e.g. Core.nsh)... and you get gobbledegook out.
05:48:35 <ChrisMorgan> I emailed Jim about it and he said he'll look into it
05:48:46 <JohnTHaller> Ok, cool
05:48:51 <ChrisMorgan> I suspect that it's just missing proper multi-byte support there.
05:48:58 <JohnTHaller> I can't figure out why NSIS won't just whole-switch to Unicode.
05:49:08 <ChrisMorgan> It does seem strange, doesn't it.
05:49:24 <JohnTHaller> All the big NSIS users are now using NSIS-Unicode
05:49:40 <ChrisMorgan> It'd help kill Windows 98 properly if they did... though of course people still use outdated versions of NSIS for everything :S
05:50:07 <ChrisMorgan> I really can't understand it; even big players like Google tend to only manage to use, for example, 2.38 for Picasa.
05:50:22 <ChrisMorgan> And I've often seen 1.* and 2.1*-2.2* used.
05:50:44 <ChrisMorgan> In fact, I can't think of a single thing which has used 2.45 or 2.46 other than our stuff.
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05:55:49 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. Can't recall what Mozilla uses offhand. They use NSISu, don't remember which version though
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06:25:14 <JohnTHaller> Wow, really can't figure this out. Table structure is good. Table data is good. Extension is good. No other extensions are messing with it. Theme isn't messing with it. Hmm. So why is it creating a duplciate URL
06:25:16 <ChrisMorgan> Oh! /tracker now has two tabs...
06:25:27 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know.
06:25:46 <JohnTHaller> Oh, looks like the view is broken, hang on
06:25:50 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
06:25:57 <ChrisMorgan> OT is showing too
06:26:14 <JohnTHaller> Cuz the view is broken. That's the standard tracker
06:26:20 <JohnTHaller> Views is crazy buggy
06:26:47 <JohnTHaller> should be back now
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06:27:40 <ChrisMorgan> That's better
06:27:54 <JohnTHaller> Had to edit and save it, how odd is that
06:27:57 <ChrisMorgan> Part of the reason why I prefer Django to Drupal+CCK+Views... Django is amazingly bug free
06:28:25 <ChrisMorgan> At bpbible.com there's been a weird issue where it loses track of what the front page is - so visitors to / get a 404. Solution: go the the site information page and press submit.
06:28:27 <JohnTHaller> yeah, but there's no way i'm gonna switch PA.c to Django
06:28:39 <ChrisMorgan> Seems a rather similar sort of issue
06:28:53 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: because of the work involved or some other reason?
06:29:13 <JohnTHaller> I doubt Django can do everything we do with Drupal. And the work would be staggering.
06:32:03 <ChrisMorgan> The work is the only reason why I don't do it...
06:32:29 <ChrisMorgan> I think Django could do almost everything better and more neatly. But the quantity of work would be prohibitive so I'm not going to try :-)
06:32:41 <JohnTHaller> Forums?
06:32:48 <ChrisMorgan> Sure. Fairly simple.
06:33:03 <ChrisMorgan> There are already a number of applications to do it, but none as neat as the Drupal system.
06:33:21 <ChrisMorgan> I'd want to write a fully (or almost so) database-compatible application for it.
06:33:45 <ChrisMorgan> Which would be a fair amount of work. Possible, and probably not all that hard, but not all that fast.
06:34:08 <ChrisMorgan> It's fairly straightforward to get Django to fit in with other systems... just a matter of writing your model a bit differently.
06:34:39 <ChrisMorgan> The application directory would be a fairly simple bit. the most difficult part of doing "just that" would be reasonable integration with the rest of the site.
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07:24:53 <JohnTHaller> I hacked it
07:28:14 <JohnTHaller> Not pretty, but it'll work now. And I'm a step closer to figuring out what's up with it.
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16:25:09 <JohnTHaller> hola
16:25:16 <anc96> hello
16:25:33 <anc96> im using xchat portable right now :)
16:25:53 <JohnTHaller> you mean PChat?
16:26:05 <anc96> oh, YChat it is for me
16:26:11 <anc96> i thought it was xchat
16:26:51 <anc96> huh my menu calls it xchat, but in the menu bar on my pc its ychat?
16:27:19 <JohnTHaller> Unbranded one. We actually switched to PChat as our branding. ZachThibeau did a custom fork of it optimized for portable use.
16:28:00 <anc96> hmm, so what is Ychat?
16:28:56 <JohnTHaller> It's what the developer of Xchat wanted unofficial builds called. You can build XChat with our the GPL-violating shareware bits included.
16:29:03 <JohnTHaller> with our = without
16:30:55 <anc96> ok (nods as if he understands)
16:32:12 <JohnTHaller> Hehe. That's ok. XChat is a GPL (open source app) contributed to by many people. A while back, the main developer decided to start charging people for the Windows version and added closed source bits to accomplish this, in violation of the license (basically, an illegal copyright violation).
16:36:52 <anc96> :O what an *inappropriate word here*
16:37:45 <Gizmokid2005> Oh, hello there JohnTHaller :)
16:37:52 <Gizmokid2005> and to you as well anc96
16:39:21 <JohnTHaller> Right. But XChat code is all still available, so ZachThibeau was able to build a fully-open source and free version for Windows with no XChat branding at all. It's a fork we're calling PChat.
16:39:24 <JohnTHaller> hi Gizmokid2005
16:40:07 <anc96> hehe
16:56:55 * Bensawsome stabs the x-chat devs =_=
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16:59:36 <Gizmokid2005> Well, my internet has been upped to 25Mx3M, and I should be getting a DOCSIS 3 modem here soon as well.
17:00:44 <Bensawsome> win Gizmokid2005
17:00:58 <Bensawsome> now you will know what it's like to have mai internet :333
17:01:01 <Bensawsome> lololololol
17:01:42 <Gizmokid2005> Lol. I'll just be happy if this new modem fixes my random disconnections
17:01:50 <Bensawsome> ah
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17:17:25 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback
17:17:56 <computerfreaker> Hello JohnTHaller, all
17:17:58 <computerfreaker> how's it going?
17:34:07 <benedikt93> hello
17:34:26 <benedikt93> I've a NSIS question concerning LogicLib.
17:35:16 <benedikt93> Does the "Continue" statement quit the ongoing loop and restart at the "Do" statement?
17:46:50 <benedikt93> and @JohnTHaller: In the German part of the forum, somebody asked me for a translated version of the PAF specification a week ago. I'd like to (at least try to) translate it. So would it be possible to get this raw pseudo-html data of it so that this would be easier for me? Or do you handle translations differently or is somebody already translating this?
17:56:12 <JohnTHaller> Hey, sorry, was away
17:56:33 <JohnTHaller> The database work I did last night was a prep for the translations online to be done better (directly on the site properly).
17:57:08 <JohnTHaller> You can copy out the HTML for the page yourself. The way it is in the system is the way it shows from essentially the page title to the end of the page text.
18:01:43 <benedikt93> thx
18:02:23 <benedikt93> and do you know something about the above question (LogicLib)?
18:18:42 <benedikt93> JohnTHaller: Should I use "ä" for "ä" and so on in the translation?
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18:26:11 <pa_0839> hello guys
18:26:21 <pa_0839> how can i make an application to be portable
18:26:39 <pa_0839> if I extract the files with extractor from the installer.exe
18:26:47 <pa_0839> would that be enough
18:27:05 <benedikt93> Not necessarily.
18:27:11 <pa_0839> i want to use different version of thunderbird
18:27:22 <pa_0839> so I have one that it is posrtable
18:27:44 <pa_0839> if I extract eh exe file and just replace it , would be enough
18:28:15 <benedikt93> when it's for sure portable and doesn't write to the registry or local files you should be fine.
18:28:26 <pa_0839> i mean to put the newly thunderbird.exe in the portable dir. directory
18:28:28 <benedikt93> So what's different in your version of TB?
18:30:05 <pa_0839> it is tweaked and has ability to send this command “ID ("GUID" "1")”
18:30:33 <pa_0839> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
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18:33:29 <benedikt93> I think, copying to "[X]:\PortableApps\ThunderbirdPortable\App\Thunderbird\thunderbird.exe" will work. But I'm not a TB portable dev (this is JohnTHaller), so you might want to ask him too. I'm quite sure he tweaked the tunderbird.exe too to be more portable itself.
18:33:53 <pa_0839> ok
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18:34:57 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0839: what versino of thunderbird are you trying to use?
18:34:59 <Gizmokid2005> *version
18:35:22 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, nm.
18:35:26 <Gizmokid2005> it depends on what is different
18:35:36 <Gizmokid2005> if the app uses all the same DLLs, etc, then just replace the EXE
18:35:58 <Gizmokid2005> otherwise you're going to need to replace the entire \Thunderbird\ directory with what the new version would install on the local machine in it's own program directory
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19:46:55 <SteveLamerton> Hi everyone
19:48:52 <JohnTHaller> hi SteveLamerton
19:53:01 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
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20:55:22 <help_needed> hey everybody, I need some help, does anyone here is using gmail (webmail) as a mailto: url class handler?
20:56:20 <Computator> yeah
20:56:31 <help_needed> I'm on firefox and clicking on a mailto: link it always shows me an error, so maybe the gmail's url for handling adresses has changed? does anyone know?
20:56:50 <help_needed> does it work good for you?
20:56:56 <Computator> I don't think so but no I don't know
20:57:09 <Computator> ummm. let me check
20:57:43 <help_needed> https://mail.google.com/mail/?extsrc=mailto&url=%s - my firefox is using this url
20:58:16 <Computator> ahhh, appears as if you might be using an extension to do that...
20:58:56 <help_needed> i'm using gmail account checkker, but it doesn't affect mailto: links at all
20:59:12 <help_needed> so have u checked?
20:59:18 <help_needed> does it work good for you?
20:59:18 <Computator> oh ok
20:59:25 <Computator> busy checking now... :)
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21:00:56 <Computator> works w/ me but mabye because of extensions i have too
21:01:08 <Computator> have you cheked w/ a different browser?
21:01:20 <OliverK> .uri
21:01:25 <OliverK> .url
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21:07:09 <markomlm> JohnTHaller: Howdy John. Alle the german content is gone :-(
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21:12:17 <help_needed> no, I haven't
21:12:25 <help_needed> but I need it just in this browser :)
21:12:35 <help_needed> are you using firefox?
21:13:34 <help_needed> sorry for being afk, just forgot about this tab :)
21:21:25 <help_needed> hey, is anybody here?
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21:25:48 <JohnTHaller> markomlm: It's there, just hidden atm
21:27:53 <help_needed> JohnTHaller, hey, could you please help me a little?
21:28:17 <markomlm> JohnTHaller:indeed with double de in the uri its available
21:29:07 <help_needed> guys, could you please help me?
21:30:06 <markomlm> help_needed:how?
21:30:21 <help_needed> do you use firefox?
21:30:26 <JohnTHaller> What do you need help with? Yes
21:30:32 <help_needed> do you use gmail?
21:30:46 <help_needed> google mail
21:31:43 <help_needed> ahmm, is it a complicated question?
21:32:01 <markomlm> ? You are at portableapps.com support chanel so whats the relation to gmail?
21:32:14 <markomlm> thunderbird portable?
21:32:17 <help_needed> well, maybe this issue of firefox portable
21:32:17 <OliverK> ahm, must you be rude?
21:32:17 <OliverK> ahm, must you be rude help_needed
21:32:21 <JohnTHaller> what are you trying to do. just spell it out in one sentence
21:32:25 <OliverK> lag :( sorry
21:33:31 <help_needed> okay. my problem: i click any mailto: link and it opens a new tab with gmail ERROR PAGE.
21:33:44 <help_needed> and it shouldn't
21:34:00 <JohnTHaller> mailto: links in Firefox aren't set to do anything except use the current PC's default mail client at the moment
21:34:17 <help_needed> well, since firefox 3.0 there is a feature to use webmail
21:34:23 <help_needed> and it doesn't work good for me
21:34:40 <markomlm> help_needed:I use google mail account without any problem in thunderbird portable
21:34:44 <JohnTHaller> You can manually change it, now. Personally, I have no experience with it, though, as I don't use webmail at all.
21:35:21 <help_needed> i did change it to use gmail, but it show me an error, seems like the url is wrong, so markmlm, you might help me
21:35:46 <help_needed> could you please click on a mailto: link mailto:test@mail.com
21:35:58 <help_needed> what url adress of the opened tab will be?
21:36:24 <help_needed> my fox is using https://mail.google.com/mail/?extsrc=mailto&url=%s
21:36:26 <OliverK> help_needed: it will open in ie8, as that is my defualt browser
21:36:37 <help_needed> okay, what url it will be?
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21:37:26 <help_needed> btw, why did u set it so: you work in 1 browser and mailto links are handled by another browser?
21:37:33 <OliverK> oops, I get outlook to open :p
21:37:52 <OliverK> mailto tags are handled by the system itself
21:37:58 <help_needed> could I ask you to temporarily change this behaviour?
21:38:01 <OliverK> the computer that you are using
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21:38:15 <help_needed> well, no, if I click this link in a browser
21:38:22 <help_needed> then it is handled by a browser
21:38:34 <OliverK> it will open the windows os's choice to handle the mail
21:38:57 <OliverK> i think theres a extension for ff/tb to handle it, but you'll have to look for the extension
21:39:08 <help_needed> damn, no
21:39:15 <help_needed> just please tell me the url
21:39:19 <help_needed> when u click a mailto ling
21:39:21 <help_needed> link*
21:39:24 <help_needed> with some adress
21:39:29 <OliverK> I don't get a mailto url
21:39:40 <help_needed> :-/
21:40:11 <MaienM> help_needed: OliverK does not have it setup to use gmail and thus it behaves normally, which means opening the application windows picks for it
21:40:14 <MaienM> so no mailto link
21:40:36 <help_needed> but he is using firefox, right?
21:40:49 <OliverK> yes, I am
21:40:52 <JohnTHaller> Hang on..
21:40:57 <help_needed> could u please go to Settings -> Applications -> mailto:
21:41:12 <OliverK> dammit, its using whatever the windows system says to
21:41:17 <OliverK> I don't have it changed
21:41:23 <JohnTHaller> http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/4329/firefox-35-gmail-as-the-default-email-client/
21:41:23 <help_needed> i know
21:41:28 <help_needed> now i need you to change it
21:41:37 <OliverK> no
21:41:48 <OliverK> why should I? I am happy with my cuurent system
21:42:01 <OliverK> if I don, I'll end up with your problem, which I don't need
21:42:04 <help_needed> cause i ask you, lol :) just please change it temporary, to test
21:42:06 <JohnTHaller> help_needed: Follow that link. You don't enter a URL. You just select "Use Gmail: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/4329/firefox-35-gmail-as-the-default-email-client/
21:42:11 <help_needed> i saw this url
21:42:14 <help_needed> i did so
21:42:20 <help_needed> and could u please do so too
21:42:40 <help_needed> and then tell me - will it open a normal page or give you an error (just like it works for me)
21:42:49 <JohnTHaller> Tried it. Works fine.
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21:43:07 <help_needed> okay, then please look at the last screenshot
21:43:14 <help_needed> and click "application details"
21:43:20 <help_needed> highlight "gmail"
21:43:22 <JohnTHaller> You shouldn't mess with those
21:43:27 <help_needed> and copy the string
21:43:38 <help_needed> and paste it to me plz
21:43:55 <help_needed> is it https://mail.google.com/mail/?extsrc=mailto&url=%s ?
21:44:11 <JohnTHaller> Application details is DIFFERENT
21:44:28 <JohnTHaller> But the URL is indeed: https://mail.google.com/mail/?extsrc=mailto&url=%s
21:45:03 <help_needed> then I don't get it... :(
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21:45:16 <JohnTHaller> I just tried a clean copy of Firefox Portable and it also worked just fine.
21:45:48 <JohnTHaller> You may have another extension interfering with it. You could try starting in safe mode or disabling them all to see if that is it.
21:46:06 <JohnTHaller> Or your current location could be blocking Gmail access at the network level
21:46:06 <help_needed> yeah, seems like soem internal error
21:46:14 <help_needed> i just needed to check that this url is still working
21:46:19 <help_needed> so thx, u helped me
21:46:32 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, the default is working fine.
21:46:42 <JohnTHaller> Can you access that URL directly in the browser by pasting it in?
21:46:54 <help_needed> no, it returns me an error
21:47:08 <help_needed> well, in fact give me an example link plz
21:47:27 <help_needed> %s should be replaced by an email-adress
21:47:28 <JohnTHaller> I mean that link: https://mail.google.com/mail/?extsrc=mailto&url=%s
21:47:57 <help_needed> clicking on this link shows me a blank page with this text: Bad Request Error 400
21:48:12 <JohnTHaller> https://mail.google.com/mail/?extsrc=mailto&url=mailto:email@example.com
21:48:36 <help_needed> it redirects me to the page https://mail.google.com/mail/h/10tosstqhotno/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&source=mailto&to=email%40example.com&zy=g&f=1
21:48:52 <JohnTHaller> Your acct is suspended then
21:48:58 <help_needed> woot
21:49:08 <JohnTHaller> It looks like a temporary suspension though
21:49:27 <help_needed> it says "temporary 404 error"
21:49:35 <help_needed> and there is a link on that page "retry"
21:49:47 <help_needed> if i click it - it opens my incoming folder and everything is ok
21:49:53 <Computator> ohhh, ive gotten that before
21:50:09 <Computator> sign out and sign back in and it will probably work
21:50:14 <help_needed> but i need it to open "compose" window with email adress pasted in the "to:" field
21:50:30 <Computator> yeah, try above
21:50:39 <help_needed> i did. same sh!t
21:50:55 <Computator> oh, how long has it been ding it?
21:51:00 <Computator> doing*
21:51:05 <help_needed> sing the beggining
21:51:11 <help_needed> Isince*
21:51:14 <help_needed> since*
21:51:17 <Gizmokid2005> help_needed: watch the language
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21:51:23 <Gizmokid2005> also - you may just need to ask mozilla/google
21:51:33 <Gizmokid2005> it's not something we can fix.
21:51:34 <Computator> and how long is that?
21:51:41 <Computator> yeah
21:51:45 <Gizmokid2005> It does work as JohnTHaller said. It's something with your setup and/or account
21:51:55 <help_needed> yeah, seems so
21:52:05 <help_needed> I just needed to test if it's working well for others
21:52:07 <help_needed> so thx
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22:10:17 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
22:12:20 <JohnTHaller> hi ZachThibeau
22:12:38 <JohnTHaller> PChat shaping up good for release?
22:13:00 <ZachThibeau> seems like PChat 1.0.3 with perl seems to be good I think. no bad reports so I think it's ready
22:13:40 <JohnTHaller> Cool. Since it's a bit later, I'm gonna post it first thing tomorrow. Should get more attention
22:14:08 <ZachThibeau> actually I was going to say tomorrow be good anyways so thats fine for me
22:15:35 <ZachThibeau> I tried to add python and it works but it's not finding the python libraries at all so I hope to have it much later once I brush up on my python variables
22:15:54 <JohnTHaller> Ok, that works.
22:22:28 <Bensawsome> sweet python too :D
22:22:38 <Bensawsome> maybe ill swtich completely to pchat ZachThibeau :3
22:22:57 <Bensawsome> unfortunately ychat right now crashes when i try to load a python script -_-
22:23:15 <ZachThibeau> well PChat's desktop install support python successfully :)
22:23:31 <Bensawsome> perl too?
22:23:52 <Bensawsome> and what perl package do i use?
22:24:00 <Bensawsome> lol
22:24:04 <ZachThibeau> yes and I'm using strawberry perl
22:24:13 <Bensawsome> k
22:24:17 * Bensawsome goes to dl that
22:24:46 <ZachThibeau> active state perl works too but for distributing perl I used Strawberry perl in PChat Portable
22:25:03 <Bensawsome> ah cool
22:25:07 <Bensawsome> i hate active state
22:25:21 <Bensawsome> unfortunately i had to use it cause its the only thing this xchat build works with
22:25:26 <Bensawsome> now i can uninstall it :3
22:25:54 <OliverK|Away> ZachThibeau: it crashed for me
22:26:19 <Bensawsome> ololololololol
22:26:28 <OliverK|Away> actaully, it didn't crash
22:26:30 <OliverK|Away> it didn't load
22:26:54 <ZachThibeau> OliverK|Away: really? most of the computers I tested it worked for me and they were computers my parents didn't have perl installed and it loaded scripts just fine for me :/
22:27:29 <OliverK|Away> ZachThibeau: pops up abot how I need active perl 5.10 installed
22:27:38 <ZachThibeau> O_o
22:27:41 <Bensawsome> OliverK|Away ur sayin the portable version?
22:27:47 <OliverK|Away> yeah
22:27:52 <Bensawsome> ok ill try it out on mine
22:27:59 <ZachThibeau> odd because I didn't have that issue >_<
22:28:03 <Bensawsome> its always been screwy on this machine so if it works on mine...
22:28:14 <OliverK|Away> 1.0.3.5?
22:28:23 <ZachThibeau> of course
22:28:28 <OliverK|Away> i have active perl installed locally, but it doesn't mess with the xchat
22:28:31 <OliverK|Away> or the pchat I modded
22:29:10 <ZachThibeau> well my windows 7 desktop (which I do my dev on) uses Strawberry perl and it loaded just fine
22:30:47 <ZachThibeau> ohh just got the message in a vm :/
22:30:48 <ZachThibeau> odd
22:30:51 <OliverK|Away> well, what do you want me to do
22:30:55 <OliverK|Away> and resh copy doesn't work
22:31:07 <OliverK|Away> a fresh*
22:31:17 <ZachThibeau> h/o iirc perl58.dll is located in the system32 directory
22:31:22 <OliverK|Away> i think your best bet is to do a "perl edition" or somethign
22:31:31 <OliverK|Away> no . . . .
22:31:43 <OliverK|Away> because it works fine even on computers perl isn't installed on
22:32:00 <OliverK|Away> i used xchat for probably a good year in this way, and they don't have a copy of perl installed
22:35:51 <ZachThibeau> odd working properly again
22:37:03 <ZachThibeau> I'm in a clean vm running win vista ultimate sp2 PChat 1.0.3 Portable with the perl plugin pack and it loaded the rainbox perl script
22:40:41 <OliverK|Away> hmm
22:41:05 <OliverK|Away> i can't get to a vm now, laptop might be having heating problems, i'm not gonna cook it :(
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22:41:21 <OliverK|Away> my copy of pcht is clean
22:42:35 <OliverK|Away> did you recompile the plugin?
22:42:35 <OliverK|Away> test
22:42:38 <OliverK|Away> huh
22:47:59 <OliverK|Away> well, its not that I got he wrong one, I just grabbed it from the pchat isntaller
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23:13:16 <Bensawsome> wow that is wierd
23:13:32 <Bensawsome> sorry i didnt respond... Had to contact *shiver* customer service ._.
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