IRC Log from 2010-03-22
00:00:01 <OliverK|Away> on the other hand, it may still work
00:00:07 <OliverK|Away> why don't you try it and find out?
00:00:15 <OliverK|Away> .pa tremulous portable
00:00:16 <GizmoBot> OliverK|Away: Portable Tremulous 1.1 (Game) [Testers Needed]: http://portableapps.com/node/10977
00:00:18 <OliverK|Away> :)
00:00:25 <koriban> tremulous is old so it should work
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00:01:56 <OliverK|Away> well then, you should be set :)
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00:01:58 <OliverK|Away> have fun
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00:35:59 <koriban> lol
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00:45:45 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the poor person that can't get a working server but produces the awesome PChat :D
00:46:12 <koriban> :?
00:46:25 <koriban> pee chat is nice I am also using it
00:47:18 <ZachThibeau> thats PChat not pee chat
00:47:27 <OliverK|Away> lolz
00:48:18 <koriban> that is how I read it sorry
00:48:39 <ZachThibeau> and actually thats PChat(tm) ;)
00:48:53 <OliverK|Away> ZachThibeau: picky picky
00:49:04 <ZachThibeau> hey I have a rite to be :P
00:49:07 <koriban> it still says xchat at someplaces though
00:49:13 <OliverK|Away> HAHA
00:50:35 <ZachThibeau> yeah still working on the source atm, my primary goal was working on getting stuff fixed up for the win32 platform and adding fixes for stability sakes
00:52:24 <ZachThibeau> next is fixing up some mistakes IE still says xchat in some places and also I'm going to be adding some possibly new features
00:53:21 <koriban> minigtk?
00:55:28 <ZachThibeau> minigtk isn't really a feature but a goal, Zed the main developer of XChat and minigtk seems to have purposely broken minigtk so that only he can use it
00:58:36 <OliverK|Away> bah, i never use that either
00:59:15 <koriban> http://xchat-win32.berlios.de/ lol
00:59:29 <ZachThibeau> thats based off an old xchat and an old minigtk release
01:00:00 <koriban> yeah it was the best free build
01:00:27 <koriban> but he left the scene :(
01:00:38 <ZachThibeau> that guy stopped because of the same reason I gave, he felt zed was purposely was breaking minigtk
01:01:20 <koriban> I'd say dump gtk and rewrite the gui in wx
01:01:29 <koriban> but probably too much work
01:01:36 <OliverK|Away> uh-huh :)
01:01:51 <ZachThibeau> actually I'm tempted, even started a basic frame already :P
01:02:25 <ZachThibeau> just that I have been busy to keep on working on it :P
01:04:24 <Scriptdaemon> Woo wxWidgets!
01:05:11 <Scriptdaemon> And with that, you can fix the tray bug for good.
01:06:03 <ZachThibeau> personally if I were to do a complete rewrite in another toolkit I wouldn't be able to write it on my own
01:06:17 <Scriptdaemon> I've been working with wxWidgets a lot.
01:07:04 <Scriptdaemon> The current PChat builds would be available now, while as a separate project have a wxWidgets build?
01:07:22 <Scriptdaemon> Then when the latter is done, merge it to current.
01:07:48 <Scriptdaemon> Which would definitely take some time, but it would allow for bug fixes, etc. to come out quicker.
01:08:01 <ZachThibeau> sort of, it would be a seperate branch in svn away from the main build and support for the current PChat would still continue until the branch becomes stable
01:08:17 <koriban> start with the console frontend
01:08:24 <koriban> :?
01:08:41 <Scriptdaemon> As far as the GUI is concerned, that seems simple enough to do within wxDev-C++.
01:09:14 <ZachThibeau> agreed
01:09:17 <koriban> or wxformbuilder
01:09:18 <Scriptdaemon> I believe everything you see before you has a built-in control in wxDev-C++'s GUI editor.
01:10:20 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: want to help with the branch?
01:11:15 <Scriptdaemon> I'd love to. I can't say how often I'll be available next quarter, but I don't think it'll be too demanding.
01:12:30 <ZachThibeau> well personally I've been putting together a team so it won't be just the 2 of us only in the branch development
01:12:32 <Scriptdaemon> As far as networking, etc., I don't have much experience, but I can study PChat's current code and convert it to wxWidgets.
01:12:44 <Scriptdaemon> Who else is willing to work on it?
01:12:47 * sar3th hides
01:12:56 <sar3th> i will only do CMake files :P
01:12:56 <Scriptdaemon> I take it there's one? =P
01:13:23 <sar3th> and mebe windows build scripting or something...for compilation ofc
01:13:56 <ZachThibeau> yeah sar3th is in it but he's trying to setup cmake. other than that I'm still looking for people willing to help
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01:14:35 <sar3th> ZachThibeau: do you have a test-branch of wxchat?
01:14:43 <Scriptdaemon> What are you mostly going to code it in? wxDev-C++ has always taken care of that stuff for me. Then again, BGRandomize isn't too demanding of a program. I should get back to that, btw...
01:14:43 <ZachThibeau> not setup atm
01:14:45 <koriban> sar3th, premake
01:15:16 <sar3th> koriban: ?
01:15:54 <Scriptdaemon> I'm very picky about the code that handles the GUI, so the main dialog class for BGRandomize is still a complete mess.
01:16:10 <Scriptdaemon> WinApi is pretty though. :D
01:16:47 <sar3th> actually, it should be the other way round, WinAPI=mess, owncode=pretty
01:17:40 <Scriptdaemon> The only thing specific to Windows in WinApi is SystemParametersInfo(). The registry stuff is taken care of by wxWidgets (which of course only Windows uses, but you know what I mean).
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01:18:53 <Scriptdaemon> I wish wxWidgets had a built-in way to set a program to run when the computer is started. I don't like touching the registry directly.
01:19:20 <Scriptdaemon> And it would make it more cross-platform for me.
01:20:23 <Scriptdaemon> ZachThibeau, just let me know what you have something set up so I can take a look at the code and whatnot.
01:20:29 <OliverK|Away> Scriptdaemon: can't you sjust stuff a shortcut in the startup folder?
01:20:46 <OliverK|Away> as far as cross platform, it should be diff on every platform
01:20:49 <OliverK|Away> well, fairly diff
01:20:59 <koriban> he want a more invasive way
01:21:23 * OliverK|Away likes shortcuts
01:21:28 <OliverK|Away> easy to find, esy to delete
01:21:35 <OliverK|Away> easy peasy lemon squeeze
01:21:50 <sar3th> yeah, shortcuts ftw
01:23:02 <Scriptdaemon> Well the way BGRandomize uses it, I don't know if it would make sense to do that? It's done by a user setting (wxCheckBox). So if the user clicks it it'll have to either create or delete a shortcut, which I think is better done with the registry. What do you think?
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01:24:54 <Scriptdemon> I've no idea what just happened.
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01:27:11 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the poor person that can't get a working server but produces the awesome PChat :D
01:27:39 <ZachThibeau> V_V shellium is not working so great atm :/
01:28:50 <sar3th> :(
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01:35:09 <Scriptdaemon> ZachThibeau, do you have a link to the source for 1.0.3?
01:35:28 <sar3th> Scriptdaemon: source of what?
01:35:33 <Scriptdaemon> PChat.
01:35:54 <ZachThibeau> actually the PChat Portable page has the link to 1.0.2 and I send you over some diffs other than that nothing major changed between 1.0.2 or 1.0.3
01:36:16 <Scriptdaemon> Ah.
01:36:33 <ZachThibeau> nothing major in concern to networking just minor gui changes
01:37:23 <OliverK|Away> Scriptdaemon: registry is hell
01:37:25 <OliverK|Away> don't use it
01:39:19 <sar3th> agreed
01:40:38 <Scriptdaemon> Pastebin changed its layout. When did that happen? o.o
01:40:52 <OliverK|Away> month ago or so
01:40:57 <OliverK|Away> is awful, no?
01:41:35 <Scriptdaemon> Eh, I could get used to it.
01:42:00 <ZachThibeau> not only changed layout but also changed owners
01:42:11 <OliverK|Away> yeah
01:42:13 <OliverK|Away> is sucky
01:42:18 <Scriptdaemon> Oh?
01:42:18 <OliverK|Away> i don't like it at all
01:42:27 <OliverK|Away> WAY to bubbly and pink
01:42:56 <Scriptdaemon> I don't see anything wrong with it. The new owners thing worries me more.
01:44:27 <OliverK|Away> i'm not liking how I cna't find a EULA
01:44:33 <OliverK|Away> or who the new owners are
01:44:39 <OliverK|Away> and ther eis way to much pink
01:44:41 <OliverK|Away> bleah
01:44:52 <OliverK|Away> i've go the old source code, imma puttin it up
01:45:31 <Scriptdaemon> http://scriptdaemon.pastebin.com/feuqj6Cw That's the current code that handles the autostart. I'll need to figure out how to create shortcuts with wxWidgets then.
01:45:53 <OliverK|Away> GAH!
01:45:55 <OliverK|Away> registry!
01:45:56 <OliverK|Away> help!
01:45:56 <GizmoBot> OliverK|Away: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
01:46:02 <OliverK|Away> haha
01:46:04 <OliverK|Away> pwned
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01:47:03 <Scriptdaemon> lol
01:47:33 <Scriptdaemon> This is the second time Sourceforge has crashed Firefox. >:(
01:48:03 <Scriptdaemon> There we go.
01:55:16 <sar3th> ff fail?!
01:55:25 <sar3th> and lol at pastebin.com
01:55:31 <sar3th> i'm working on a clone
02:15:04 <OliverK|Away> i've had ff freeze when trying to show all the pa.com files
02:18:50 <sar3th> :(
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02:56:58 <sar3th> welcome back JohnTHaller
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03:37:06 <GizmoBot> ...
03:37:14 <ZachThibeau> hola JohnTHaller
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04:14:04 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!)
04:15:33 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller, did you see my own 1.0-compatibility VersionInfo patch (which I committed a couple of days before you posted yours) at all?
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04:43:02 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller, now after this spate of fixes, do you think it's time to do another release?
04:43:18 <ChrisMorgan> Or should I work on the improved language handling first?
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05:04:50 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Sorry, working with our designer and the1shanti from the music suite at the moment.
05:05:19 <ChrisMorgan> I've decided to work on languages.
05:06:27 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Yes, I'd suggest a Beta 2 with all the patches. I could really use it myself now. Can I also suggest a UTF-16 mode for FileWriteN... just temporariliy. If I had that, I can do two releases tomorrow.
05:07:06 <JohnTHaller> It could be ReplaceMode=Unicode that defaults to ANSI. And we'll ditch it later on when we don't need it anymore.
05:07:07 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know about the UTF-16LE plug-in... Gringoloco! Come here! ;-)
05:07:22 <ChrisMorgan> I'll try to dig it up though
05:07:23 <JohnTHaller> Check out uTorrent Portable. It's a single NSH.
05:07:33 <ChrisMorgan> No plug-in?
05:07:37 <JohnTHaller> Same format as ReplaceInFileWithTextReplace.nsh
05:07:39 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, that one. Ah.
05:07:48 <ChrisMorgan> So it was his plug-in one?
05:07:51 <JohnTHaller> Nope, just straight NSIS. Slower, but functional
05:08:01 <ChrisMorgan> So /not/ WithTextReplace
05:08:48 <ChrisMorgan> Very well then
05:09:11 <ChrisMorgan> "Encoding=UTF16-LE"
05:09:24 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, very cool
05:10:32 <ChrisMorgan> Should I use his NewTextReplace plug-in (http://portableapps.com/node/21840)?
05:21:07 <JohnTHaller> Oh wow. forgot about that. May be worth a shot
05:21:21 <ChrisMorgan> I think so
05:22:59 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: what do you think of my proposal for languages in the launcher file: http://pastebin.com/KrYkdUVq
05:23:13 <ChrisMorgan> I think that's about as complete as it can be without bloat.
05:23:50 <ChrisMorgan> And what's more I've got it implemented in code (it's fairly straightforward, the only difficult bit was deciding /how/ to do it)
05:24:15 <ChrisMorgan> Really though there should be some "if already set" ConfigRead or similar. A bit hard to decide how to do that though...
05:28:11 <ChrisMorgan> So with this new way of doing languages, Audacity becomes http://pastebin.com/iNR0DpFk
05:29:12 <JohnTHaller> I like it man
05:36:26 <ChrisMorgan> Just writing the documentation now. As usual that takes longer than the code.
05:47:13 <ChrisMorgan> Pushing it now :-)
05:50:44 <ChrisMorgan> I think that's the end of the stack of requests etc. in the new thread except for two: services and now your Unicode replace mode.
05:51:23 <JohnTHaller> You didn't swap in the alternate TextReplace plugin?
05:51:29 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't yet.
05:51:42 <ChrisMorgan> That's what I was just about to do now but I think I really should head off home.
05:51:52 <JohnTHaller> It's the same plugin, right? So it's just what you compile it with
05:51:59 <ChrisMorgan> I'll see if I can do a 2.0 Beta 2 release tonight.
05:52:04 <ChrisMorgan> Not too confident though.
05:52:05 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, don't kill yourself on it.
05:52:13 <ChrisMorgan> I did get my FIT1029 assignment in on Saturday :-)
05:52:16 <JohnTHaller> I'll drop it in for my Mixxx Portable, though
05:52:21 <JohnTHaller> Nice :-)
05:53:26 <ChrisMorgan> You should be able to put in the plug-in (NewTextReplace.nsh in Source and NewTextReplace.dll in Plugins\A) and then !include NewTextReplace.nsh and replace ReplaceInFile(CS) with ReplaceInFileUTF16LE(CS) in Segments\FileWrite.nsh.
05:53:36 <ChrisMorgan> I should have done it, it would almost have been that fast to implement :P
05:53:39 <JohnTHaller> I like your lang solution, nice job on that. Let's do a new thread for B2
05:53:51 <ChrisMorgan> Good, the b1 thread is messed up :-)
05:54:01 <ChrisMorgan> Except there'd be help.html to update which takes longer than the code :-(
05:54:19 <ChrisMorgan> In the new help it'd be much faster because you only need RST code rather than full long HTML.
05:54:20 <ChrisMorgan> Bye
05:54:25 <JohnTHaller> gnight man
05:54:39 <ChrisMorgan> Glad you like the language way :-)
05:54:44 <JohnTHaller> :-)
05:55:20 <ChrisMorgan> The only potential improvement would be allowing a ConfigRead or RegRead to decide whether to leave it alone. That gets messy though.
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08:44:30 <vf2nsr> ignore this messasge I am just testing out a firefox add on thanks
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11:03:46 <guillaumeprevot> Hello everyone,
11:03:59 <travlingeek> hello
11:04:04 <guillaumeprevot> I was juste reading Patrik Patience tutorial http://portableapps.com/node/10951
11:04:11 <guillaumeprevot> It works :)
11:05:44 <guillaumeprevot> It's written this room is mainly for developpers. So it's time to Thank You All for your work.
11:05:57 <guillaumeprevot> Have a nice day...
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11:06:29 <travlingeek> indeed thanks are in order for those that make the software
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13:10:56 <orly_owl> hello
13:12:52 <orly_owl> if i download platform only and openoffice.org, will openoffice.org appear in the menu?
13:13:49 <orly_owl> :/
13:27:24 <sar3th> yes orly_owl
13:27:35 <orly_owl> yeah i worked it out
13:27:47 <sar3th> you have to install it to the right location though. by default, portableapps will detect the right directory automatically
13:27:50 <orly_owl> the platform lets you install apps
13:28:20 <orly_owl> openoffice.org is in the menu now so looks like i got it right
13:28:23 <sar3th> you can also simply run the installer, it should work as well :)
13:28:27 <sar3th> good orly_owl :)
13:28:46 <orly_owl> how else would i install it, if not for running the installer? :)
13:28:50 <orly_owl> anyway
13:28:51 <orly_owl> thx
13:29:20 <orly_owl> also, does the platform program open when you plug the usb key in?
13:31:45 <sar3th> as a general rule, no
13:31:53 <sar3th> you get a window with actions for the drive
13:31:58 <sar3th> and the menu is in that list
13:32:07 <sar3th> so you only have to click "ok" to start it
13:32:29 <orly_owl> oh the windows thing
13:32:35 <sar3th> yes
13:32:39 <orly_owl> is that the same for xp/vista/7?
13:33:05 <sar3th> hm good question; if i recall correctly, windows 7 won't allow autorun at all, so there
13:33:11 <sar3th> *is no dialog
13:33:11 <orly_owl> :o
13:33:32 <sar3th> but i'm not sure about that, might want to test it for yourself ;)
13:33:36 <orly_owl> mhm
13:37:27 <orly_owl> do you have a screenshot of this on xp?
13:48:07 <orly_owl> nm
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13:52:00 <sar3th> no but i can make one if you need orly_owl
13:53:08 <orly_owl> that would be useful
13:54:46 <sar3th> any apps you want in the list?
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13:57:36 <orly_owl> i mean the windows xp thing
13:57:43 <orly_owl> isnt that what you mean?
13:57:58 <orly_owl> where is it says 'what do you want to do with this device?'
13:58:15 <sar3th> aah okay
13:58:18 <sar3th> i misunderstood
13:59:02 <orly_owl> http://www.samlogic.net/articles/images/autoplay-windows-xp.gif
14:03:31 <sar3th> something is wrong with my flash drive :(
14:03:58 <sar3th> exactly orly_owl
14:04:32 <orly_owl> http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=151265&ssid=100855 yay
14:05:40 <sar3th> exactly :)
14:12:56 <orly_owl> http://www.simplehelp.net/images/portableapps/portableapps14.jpg default xp colors
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14:54:25 <Sin> yo anyone
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14:54:48 <JohnTHaller> hi Sin
14:54:51 <Sin> hey
14:54:51 <JohnTHaller> how can we help you
14:54:54 <Sin> need help plz
14:55:04 <Sin> lol i effed up a bit i think
14:55:05 <JohnTHaller> with?
14:55:12 <Sin> umm watchma all it
14:55:13 <Sin> i
14:55:21 <Sin> installed the app compactor
14:55:36 <Sin> i think i screwed the whole thing up non of the apps work lol
14:55:42 <Sin> how do i uninstall it?
14:56:53 <JohnTHaller> Ah. You're not supposed to re-compress our apps with the appcompactor. It'll break the launchers. All our apps are already compressed where they can be except Mozilla apps which we don't compress due to our license agreement with them.
14:57:18 <JohnTHaller> You can uninstall the appcompactor just by deleting it, but fixing your apps is another story...
14:59:17 <JohnTHaller> You will need to reinstall each app to get it working again. Basically AppCompactor killed all the launchers (FirefoxPortable.exe, etc). Reinstalling right over the existing apps will fix that. And your data won't be touched.
15:03:09 <Rapscallion> JohnTHaller: I noticed in one of the forum threads you mentioned that a "preview" of the next PAP was available by visiting IRC. How is this preview obtained?
15:06:37 <JohnTHaller> It's only been shared with internal developers so far. Even those screenshots are outdated. You'll be able to actually use it in a couple days, though :-) Beta 5 with the updater and theme switcher will be posted probably Wednesday.
15:07:07 <Rapscallion> hmm cool, Im looking forward to it. :-)
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15:08:01 <orly_owl> now i get errors
15:08:10 <JohnTHaller> what errors?
15:08:33 <orly_owl> http://omploader.org/vM3d4NA/PortableApps.comPlatform.png
15:09:02 <JohnTHaller> Ah, you're using a bad theme. The menu tried to load a corrupted PNG (or one in a format it doesn't understand).
15:09:13 <JohnTHaller> This can also happen on a drive with logical errors where it corrupts an image.
15:09:39 <Sin> tyy
15:09:49 <Sin> sry had togo too fpor a bit
15:09:58 <orly_owl> so reformat the usb drive?
15:10:13 <JohnTHaller> Sin: No problem. Just reinstall the affected apps and they'll work fine
15:10:35 <JohnTHaller> orly_owl: Nope. Just check it for errors and then reinstall the platform over itself. If you're using a custom theme, you should remove that, too.
15:11:01 <orly_owl> check it for errors...
15:11:06 <orly_owl> not using custom these
15:11:08 <orly_owl> theme
15:11:11 <JohnTHaller> Check your drive for errors.
15:11:19 <orly_owl> fdisk doesnt check errors
15:11:30 * orly_owl thinks
15:11:37 <JohnTHaller> In Explorer, right-click the drive. Select Properties. Select the Tools tab. Click Check Now under check for errors.
15:11:59 <orly_owl> GNU/Linux here
15:12:14 <orly_owl> i thought fdisk tipped you off
15:12:20 <orly_owl> smartctl might do it
15:12:45 <JohnTHaller> Ah, depends on your variant. Can't really help you on that one. You could just reinstall the platform and that'll fis it. Hopefully not make the logical errors worse.
15:15:22 <Rapscallion> JohnTHaller: I was hoping you could shed some light on a topic that has come up in the forums a few times, and in reading through the threads there does not seems to be a reall answer (in fact it seems a sore spot with some). But I was wonder if there would ever be the possiblity of a portable Trillian. I know that Cerulean Studios would have to agreee colaborate. If you would rather I bumped one of the already started threads and reask
15:16:12 <orly_owl> fsck!
15:17:42 <JohnTHaller> We would need Cerulean to collaborate and give permission (we don't bundle software illegally). As we currently don't have a relationship with them, there is no point in bumping an existing topic.
15:18:05 <JohnTHaller> There has been little developer interest as we already have Pidgin and Miranda and are working on Digsby as well.
15:18:11 <Rapscallion> I know it acnt be bundled but what about an online instaler
15:20:39 <Rapscallion> maybe I will try my hand at it. It will be a good way for me to finally learn and help out the PA.c.
15:21:45 <JohnTHaller> Sure. If you're interested, that would be cool.
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15:22:50 <Rapscallion> I'm definately interested. I have been wanting to get involved for a while, but have been to busy to commit to anything. but i think its time to buck up and support a cplatform that I rely every day :-)
15:23:27 <JohnTHaller> Heh, cool. Well, between the PA.c Installer's online abilities and the PA.c Launcher's progress, you may be able to without doing any coding
15:24:56 <Rapscallion> The cooding does not bother me (I currently program in C# and have expreience with VB, SQL, HTML). So the challenge of learning I would look forward to.
15:25:25 <Rapscallion> And at my work the core of our software is done in Delphi
15:25:40 <Rapscallion> so I have played with that as well
15:26:05 <sar3th> isn't digsby very critical since it contains components one could call ad/spy/riskware
15:26:07 <sar3th> ?
15:26:40 <Rapscallion> sar3th: I was going to mention the same thing
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15:27:09 <Rapscallion> It;s the main reason I wont even touch it
15:27:44 <sar3th> it uses your pc to calcuate stuff iirc
15:27:49 <Rapscallion> And the fact that it is a recource pig (at least it was when I did try it about 1 year ago)
15:28:29 <Rapscallion> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digsby#Privacy_and_Other_Concerns
15:37:16 <JohnTHaller> There was a release where they enabled stuff like that without permission a while back, but it seems they have addressed the issues. And the PA.c Format doesn't permit apps to install anything locally or adjust apps outside of their own directory (ie toolbars in Firefox, etc), so the portable version wouldn't do that anyway.
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15:41:44 <Rapscallion> hmm good to know (about digsby)
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15:55:54 <Simeon> hia ll
15:56:26 <Simeon> hi John! Havent seen you here often at this hour :)
16:03:47 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I usually just work and hit the gym during the day without popping in
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16:10:49 <Simeon> gotta go. See yall!
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16:50:34 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the poor person that can't get a working server but produces the awesome PChat :D
16:51:56 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller whats up
16:51:57 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: what do you need a server for anyway?
16:52:22 <JohnTHaller> Usual. Workin :-) Actually about to head to the gym. Trying to get Audacity, Mixxx and LMMS out in the next couple days to do a new music suite release.
16:53:24 <Gringoloco> Did you work out how to use NewTextReplace ?
16:53:28 <ZachThibeau> MaienM and sar3th and some of the other guys know some of the issues I've been having mostly with my irc server :P
16:54:00 <JohnTHaller> Gringoloco: Yeah, seems like a basic dropin for the old one. So I'll just use that for Mixxx Portable's PA.c Launcher for now until chris adds an option to the main one.
16:55:01 <Gringoloco> Ok, I consider it stable enough, but let me know if there are issues
16:55:12 <JohnTHaller> Will do.
16:55:15 <JohnTHaller> Ok, off to the gym
16:55:20 <ZachThibeau> later John
16:55:22 <ZachThibeau> have fun
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17:34:09 <vf2nsr> If I install PA on my desktop can I access the programs and menus remotely from my laptop which shares the server?
17:34:19 <vf2nsr> desktop = computer
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17:42:29 <JohnTHaller> vf2nsr: Yup. It works over RDP. Or as a file share. You just can't have it running on two machines at once.
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17:43:17 <vf2nsr> sweet would be a lot easier than syncing it thanks JOhn
17:44:02 <vf2nsr> Did you happen to catch my poost in forum about hooking the explore to a specific program?
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17:53:16 <Jim__> Greetings, first time to use this format.
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17:54:54 <Jim__> I tried to run the Lightscreen update, but after getting thorugh language selection I get "Lightscreen Portable has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." MD5 checksum is good.
17:55:57 <Jim__> Is this just me or are others having this problem?
17:59:56 <Rapscallion> Jim__: I have not tried it yet, I will right now and let you know
18:00:44 <Jim__> thanks Raps
18:01:41 <Rapscallion> np :-)
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18:03:31 <Rapscallion> Jim__: it works fine for me on Win7 32Bit
18:03:59 <Rapscallion> I am just testing it on XP aas well
18:04:51 <Rapscallion> Works fine on 2 different machine here.
18:05:07 <Jim__> I allowed the error to be sent to MS, but I not expecting a response.
18:05:15 <Jim__> Thank you.
18:05:20 <Rapscallion> When do you get the error?
18:05:37 <Jim__> After the language selection page.
18:05:54 <Rapscallion> Waht language did you choose?
18:06:17 <Jim__> Default English (without making any changes).
18:06:41 <Rapscallion> ahh wait did you update from within Lightscreen?
18:06:56 <Rapscallion> "Check updates now"?
18:08:45 <Jim__> It never finished updating the software. I downloaded the update, Started the paf file, clicked OK at installer language, then I get the error.
18:10:03 <Rapscallion> Did you try deleteing the lightscreenportable folder from X:\portableApps\
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18:10:13 <Rapscallion> if not do this then run the installer again
18:10:51 <Jim__> No, I got the install (update) from portableapps.com. OK I will delete the installed package and try again.
18:11:33 <Rapscallion> ok
18:11:59 <Jim__> Still has trouble, never lets me select where to install app.
18:12:34 <Jim__> I guess I found limitations to my Acer AspireOne.
18:13:25 <Rapscallion> what OS?
18:13:45 <Jim__> Win XP 32 bit
18:14:13 <Rapscallion> and as soon as you choose the language it bombs?
18:14:31 <Jim__> yes
18:14:49 <Rapscallion> Are you running the installer from a usb stick?
18:16:05 <Jim__> No downloaded on desktop of laptop. takes maybe 500 msec after I click OK of language selection check box to error.
18:19:00 <Rapscallion> Your best bet is to create a thread on the forum, as none of the PAP programmers are here to help out.
18:19:06 <Rapscallion> Sorry I couldnt be more help
18:19:58 <Jim__> You were... I copied it to my thumbdrive to run the installation from there and now it runs.
18:19:59 <Rapscallion> or you could wait around here until one of them shows up :-)
18:20:09 <Rapscallion> hmm
18:20:10 <Jim__> I don't understand it but thanks
18:20:22 <Rapscallion> ahh great... your welcome
18:20:25 <Rapscallion> :-)
18:20:59 <Rapscallion> but im not sure that i really hepled that much... hehe
18:21:23 <Rapscallion> sometimes it just helps to have an extra head involved.
18:22:11 <Jim__> Bless you guys. Thanks. Signing off. (submitted to forum and will update with unexpected fix)
18:22:41 <Rapscallion> have a great day.
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18:55:44 <Rapscallion> .
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19:19:30 <Hsnopi> hello all
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19:20:10 <Hsnopi> quick question. I need a larger pa dev environment. My wifes laptop died and i was thinking about getting an enclosure for the drive in her machine and toting that about. would PA work forthat?
19:26:20 <gluxon> Hsnopi: It should work in anything with writable memory :)
19:26:26 <Rapscallion> yes PAP will work from pretty much any where you install it
19:28:52 <Hsnopi> hot. i have a 2gb kingston but it is out of room. other then tbird being slow I am really enjoying it and even bought UltraEdit32 for it. and ultracompare but had a lot of issues and couldn;t get that to work.
19:29:35 <Hsnopi> thanks forthe work:) ttyl
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19:37:53 <vf2nsr> cool I made IT :)
19:38:40 <vf2nsr> back to work on my testing lol
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22:19:15 <JohnTHaller> Just posted a Mixxx 1.7.2 Pre-Release using a modded PA.c Launcher for testing: http://portableapps.com/node/23093
22:20:23 <marlop> hi JohnTHaller
22:20:50 <JohnTHaller> hi
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22:31:01 <GizmoBot> sar3th is credit to team!
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