IRC Log from 2010-04-05
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00:22:30 <OliverK> thunderstormz suck
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00:31:34 <vf2nsr> OliverK, when you have a moment can you look at this http://pastebin.com/8mgW2EtR at the bottom under the ______ I included the errror
00:32:02 <vf2nsr> OliverK, and I know there are a lot of comments
00:32:15 <OliverK> vf2nsr: comments are a good thing
00:32:41 <vf2nsr> OliverK, well basically I commented part I changed or did not need
00:32:49 <OliverK> that's fine
00:33:01 <OliverK> comments are just ; though, you don't need the equals signs
00:33:03 <vf2nsr> In case I really did need them
00:33:07 <OliverK> are you using anykind of editor?
00:33:23 <vf2nsr> NotePAd++
00:33:28 <vf2nsr> that what you mena?
00:33:31 <OliverK> yup
00:33:41 <OliverK> just wanna make sure you're not trying to use notepad :p
00:33:50 <OliverK> the one that comes with windows
00:33:50 <vf2nsr> the ==== were to let me know they were my comments
00:33:55 <OliverK> okay :)
00:33:58 <computerfreaker> Notepad *really* stinks for any kind of programming.
00:34:03 <OliverK> heh
00:34:04 <vf2nsr> yup
00:34:07 <computerfreaker> heck, it even stinks for INI files
00:34:08 <OliverK> is good for checking
00:34:18 <vf2nsr> did you see error?
00:34:21 <OliverK> StrCpy $EXECSTRING `"$PROGRAMDIRECTORY\$PROGRAMEXECUTABLE" -c "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY\.purple" $0`
00:34:23 <OliverK> :)
00:34:23 <vf2nsr> at bottom?
00:34:28 <OliverK> yup
00:34:44 <OliverK> i suspect its complaining because you told it to go to a file
00:34:48 <vf2nsr> ok let me check line number by any chance?
00:34:48 <OliverK> not a folder :)
00:35:38 <OliverK> ah
00:35:42 <OliverK> 190
00:35:52 <vf2nsr> kk one mooment
00:36:06 <OliverK> also, line 218
00:36:15 <OliverK> call it HOME and not PURPLEHOME
00:36:41 <vf2nsr> and 194?
00:36:50 <OliverK> yeah
00:36:56 <Bensawsome> computerfreaker notepad++ ftw
00:37:00 <OliverK> do you have any kind of programming training?
00:37:05 <OliverK> nah, geany FTW
00:37:08 <OliverK> :D
00:37:12 <OliverK> i'm biased though :(
00:37:16 <Bensawsome> lol
00:37:17 <Bensawsome> also
00:37:23 <Bensawsome> tacos
00:37:26 <OliverK> TACOS!
00:37:31 <OliverK> where?
00:37:40 <Bensawsome> 3 hours ago
00:37:42 <Bensawsome> with me
00:37:43 <Bensawsome> :3
00:37:47 <OliverK> :(
00:37:56 <vf2nsr> I programmed 25 years ago in Assembly on a I 99/4A
00:38:02 <Bensawsome> vf2nsr nice
00:38:07 <OliverK> okay, so you understand logic, right?
00:38:08 <Bensawsome> my mom did the same with basic
00:38:18 <OliverK> if\then system is what I'm getting at
00:38:23 <vf2nsr> yes I must have missed it
00:38:30 <vf2nsr> I also programmed in Ext Basic
00:38:50 <OliverK> once I understood this, it really helped
00:38:53 <vf2nsr> ok let me look some more
00:39:05 <OliverK> think of StrCmp as a sort of If\Then statement
00:39:14 <OliverK> ^_^
00:39:54 <OliverK> So, you'll do something like StrCmp $Value1 "True" IfValue1=True ElseDothisAction
00:40:19 <OliverK> with those last two things as "code blocks"
00:40:30 <vf2nsr> ah ok I made changes let me try recompiling thanks
00:40:36 <OliverK> not a really good name, but I hope I'm communication effectiely
00:41:44 <vf2nsr> Oh BTW in talking with the original programmer he told me how to set the program to default to a different data dir
00:41:49 <OliverK> vf2nsr: also, you may have to have a folder in Data called settings. The program may not make it for you
00:41:55 <OliverK> cool
00:42:03 <vf2nsr> so no hacking :)
00:42:09 <OliverK> anytime you ge tthe original dev to help you and get them on board, is awesome.
00:42:12 <vf2nsr> ok will do
00:44:41 <vf2nsr> grrrrr did something wrong, no error but program didn't launch either
00:44:50 <OliverK> :(
00:44:59 <OliverK> well . . . .
00:45:03 <vf2nsr> let me look at code again
00:45:06 <OliverK> did the executable pop up?
00:46:24 <vf2nsr> just launcher and splash screen
00:46:35 <vf2nsr> BUT i think I just saw something hang on
00:46:37 <OliverK> okay, what about the rednoteboox.exe
00:46:41 <OliverK> ooh :)
00:47:39 <vf2nsr> nope no rednotebook :(
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00:49:00 <vf2nsr> you still got the pastebin open?
00:49:05 <OliverK> dah
00:49:13 <vf2nsr> ?
00:49:16 <OliverK> yes
00:49:34 <vf2nsr> line 38 should that be the program executable name?
00:49:58 <vf2nsr> or is that 39?
00:50:02 <OliverK> nope
00:50:06 <OliverK> that's what will come out
00:50:18 <OliverK> line 30
00:50:45 <OliverK> and line 124
00:51:02 <OliverK> you said last time that it popped up with a error, correct?
00:51:06 <OliverK> pastebin the new source
00:51:17 <vf2nsr> is this case sensitive?
00:51:23 <OliverK> shouldn't be . . .
00:51:53 <vf2nsr> ok let me try one thing just in case?
00:52:06 <OliverK> go for it
00:52:08 <vf2nsr> if you have time
00:52:16 <OliverK> i'll be here for awhile
00:55:40 <vf2nsr> OliverK, still no rednotebook.exe http://pastebin.com/t6j0nsuc
00:56:28 <OliverK> StrCpy "$PROGRAMDIRECTORY" "$EXEDIR\App\${DEFAULTAPPDIR}"
00:56:40 <OliverK> isn't the exe under the bin folder?
00:57:09 <vf2nsr> the rednotebook.exe?
00:57:14 <OliverK> yeha
00:57:44 <vf2nsr> nope in directory App\rednotebook directory
00:57:52 <OliverK> also, put in just before launch, "MessageBox MB|OK '$execstring'"
00:57:55 <OliverK> okay
00:58:04 <OliverK> recompile\launch
00:58:10 <OliverK> tell me what pops up :)
00:58:13 <vf2nsr> where you want that?
00:58:27 <OliverK> @271
00:59:28 <vf2nsr> so make 271 into 272?
00:59:36 <OliverK> yeah
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01:00:06 <vf2nsr> ok let me recompile
01:01:03 <vf2nsr> Error in script "C:\Documents and Settings\Compaq_Owner\Desktop\rednotebookportable\Other\Source\RedNotebookPortableLauncher.nsi" on line 271 -- aborting creation process
01:01:16 <OliverK> did you keep the " at the front?
01:01:21 <OliverK> opps
01:01:24 <vf2nsr> was I supposed to leave the " " in?
01:01:28 <OliverK> need to close the $execstring quote
01:01:43 <vf2nsr> ok
01:01:44 <OliverK> no, don't leave the " " in, but add a ' at the end
01:03:28 <vf2nsr> same error
01:03:39 <vf2nsr> can you retype what 271 should be please
01:03:53 <vf2nsr> I will copy and paste
01:04:01 <OliverK> MessageBox MB_OK '$execstring'
01:04:06 <OliverK> i had it wrong :(
01:04:18 <OliverK> i think, its been a little bit since I've done NSIS work
01:04:47 <vf2nsr> np I really appreciate the help
01:05:50 <vf2nsr> ok compiled here goes nothing
01:08:09 <vf2nsr> I get a windows box says RedNoteBook Portable | PortableApps.Com and a box to hit that says OK
01:08:25 <OliverK> that's your execstrong?
01:08:37 <OliverK> execstring*?!
01:08:43 <OliverK> no wonder it won't launch then :p
01:08:57 <OliverK> there's nothing in it
01:09:00 <vf2nsr> so I need to change it somewhere
01:09:04 <OliverK> yeah
01:09:11 <OliverK> pastebin the new source please
01:09:17 <vf2nsr> ok
01:10:18 <vf2nsr> http://pastebin.com/zus8QXWU
01:11:00 <vf2nsr> think I just found it
01:11:05 <OliverK> cool :)
01:11:13 <vf2nsr> line 40?
01:11:34 <OliverK> nope, that's the caption
01:11:44 <OliverK> hang on, I"m loading genay, its got some goodies for me
01:11:52 <computerfreaker> looks like you need to uncomment line 190
01:12:03 <computerfreaker> oh, wait, maybe not
01:12:14 <vf2nsr> oh ok
01:12:19 <OliverK> uhm, well, that's a good place to start
01:12:30 <OliverK> or put a message box there saying, no parameters
01:13:26 <computerfreaker> vf2nsr: put this line between lines 193 and 194
01:13:39 <vf2nsr> in line 25 should the be the name of the program I am using fo rprogram executable?
01:13:49 <computerfreaker> MessageBox MB_OK "Arrived at EXECSTRING copy"
01:14:12 <OliverK> hangon with line 25, lets get in running first :)
01:14:22 <OliverK> do as computerfreaker suggests
01:14:29 <vf2nsr> ok hang on
01:14:30 <OliverK> at line 190, uncomment it
01:14:35 <computerfreaker> no, don't
01:14:37 <computerfreaker> not yet
01:14:45 <vf2nsr> I am way confused
01:14:47 <computerfreaker> put this line between lines 193 and 194
01:14:52 <computerfreaker> MessageBox MB_OK "Arrived at EXECSTRING copy"
01:15:02 <computerfreaker> then recompile it & run it, and see if you get that message.
01:15:14 <vf2nsr> lineone quote or 2?
01:15:26 <OliverK> on line 194, change it to just $settingsdirectory
01:15:28 <computerfreaker> either one should be fine; I always use a double quote
01:15:28 <OliverK> on line 190, uncomment it
01:15:28 <OliverK> " is fine
01:15:56 <vf2nsr> hangf on you want that before I compile oliver?
01:16:02 <OliverK> yes please
01:16:12 <vf2nsr> k let me make the changes
01:16:40 <OliverK> computerfreaker: lots of cooks here lol ;)
01:16:46 <computerfreaker> lol, good point
01:16:53 <computerfreaker> I'll back out.
01:17:06 <OliverK> nah, you're fine
01:17:12 <OliverK> you're catching things I didn't notice
01:17:15 <computerfreaker> ok, if you think so.
01:17:30 <OliverK> actually, we should let vf2nsr decide :D
01:17:39 <vf2nsr> in 190 that I just uncommented change .puple to .home?
01:17:57 <OliverK> delete .purple off of the end
01:18:02 <vf2nsr> ok
01:19:22 <vf2nsr> k changes save will recompile
01:20:27 <computerfreaker> vf2nsr: if that doesn't work, I added some debugging code you might find helpful.
01:21:16 <vf2nsr> I get a windows box says RedNoteBook Portable | PortableApps.Com and a box to hit that says OK and arrived at execstring copy
01:21:28 <vf2nsr> U want me to riun this in debug mode?
01:21:35 <vf2nsr> I have the script to do so
01:22:01 <computerfreaker> vf2nsr: try this: http://pastebin.com/kWddhJ4b
01:22:22 <computerfreaker> it'll show between 1 and 3 messageboxes
01:22:33 <vf2nsr> hang on got another box after I click ok
01:23:24 <vf2nsr> and way to much to hand type
01:24:24 <vf2nsr> basically the program .exe -c...Data\rednotebook
01:24:40 <vf2nsr> hang one
01:24:43 <OliverK> okay, that's a good sign
01:25:49 <computerfreaker> did you get a box saying "EXECSTRING is now [a bunch of stuff here]"?
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01:26:48 <computerfreaker> vf2nsr: did you see my last message?
01:27:21 <vf2nsr> ok remember the error with the -c string?
01:27:29 <vf2nsr> got it again
01:27:36 <OliverK> um huh
01:27:43 <OliverK> well, at least we're launching
01:27:55 <vf2nsr> and I am getting way too confused with directions from both of ya
01:28:09 <computerfreaker> yep, I should definitely back out.
01:28:12 <vf2nsr> at this point I about ready to chuck it all
01:28:17 <computerfreaker> sorry about the confusion.
01:28:38 <vf2nsr> I will paste bin current code hang on
01:29:25 <vf2nsr> http://pastebin.com/z5CmRPw5
01:31:46 <OliverK> vf2nsr: this is going to sound really wierd
01:32:07 <vf2nsr> why not been at it for 9 hours
01:32:12 <vf2nsr> shoot
01:32:18 <OliverK> but try switching $SettingsDirectory for [$SettingsDirectory]
01:32:59 <OliverK> lines 190 and 195
01:33:35 <OliverK> also, on 195 delete the .home off the end of $SETTINGSDIRECTORY\
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01:33:46 <vf2nsr> ok let me try\leave the qoutes or remve them?
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01:34:10 <OliverK> remove the quotes, i think
01:34:16 <vf2nsr> kk
01:34:22 <OliverK> also, 190
01:34:34 <OliverK> replace it with this:
01:34:34 <OliverK> StrCpy $EXECSTRING `"$PROGRAMDIRECTORY\$PROGRAMEXECUTABLE" -c "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY"'
01:34:50 <OliverK> nevermind, dont' do that
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01:35:33 <vf2nsr> what should I not do
01:35:46 <vf2nsr> the first thing about [$SettingsDirectory]
01:35:56 <OliverK> hangon, i fixed it here, i'll pastebin
01:36:13 <OliverK> http://pastebin.com/aejEg4PK
01:36:16 <OliverK> :)
01:38:27 <vf2nsr> ok will recompile
01:40:30 <vf2nsr> or not
01:40:36 <OliverK> :p
01:40:44 <OliverK> what'd I bork?
01:40:52 <vf2nsr> I copied and pasted and all the line numbers came in as well so have double line numbers :(
01:41:06 <OliverK> ouch
01:41:14 <OliverK> click on the raw link at the top
01:41:38 <OliverK> that would be why it didn't compile
01:41:49 <OliverK> here : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aejEg4PK
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01:44:48 <vf2nsr> ok that better let me recompile
01:46:04 <vf2nsr> Usage: rednotebook.exe [options] [journal-path] rednotebook.exe: error: no such option: -c
01:47:01 <OliverK> huh . . .
01:47:49 <vf2nsr> that the error I get
01:47:57 <OliverK> alight, well, I'd contact the author at this point :)
01:48:05 <vf2nsr> Hang I need to change some default notepad settings
01:48:29 <vf2nsr> he said it was because I am yusing a command line prompt in the launcher
01:51:45 <vf2nsr> oh well back to drawing board I guess
01:52:09 <OliverK> maybe you need to use nsis:exec
01:52:23 <OliverK> check it out in notepad++ source code
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01:54:24 <OliverK|Away> i'll be back in about half a hour, then I gotta get off IRC and take my test
01:55:54 <vf2nsr> np I keep plugging at it thanks
02:05:48 <OliverK|Away> i'm shutting down
02:05:55 <OliverK|Away> any questions quickly before I go?
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02:12:41 <vf2nsr> nope I so lost even a map wont help
02:12:43 <vf2nsr> but thanks
02:12:53 <OliverK|Away> alright :(
02:12:56 <OliverK|Away> well, take a break
02:13:03 <OliverK|Away> come back later
02:13:11 <OliverK|Away> it won't hurt you or the app :)
02:15:46 <vf2nsr> yup
02:17:42 <OliverK|Away> night all
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04:50:18 <pa_8212> Hello All
04:52:21 <pa_8212> I have a question on portableApps
04:53:04 <pa_8212> Is the portable Apps similar to ceedo
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05:15:03 <pa_3590> How does PortableApps look is it very similar to ceedo
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06:32:36 <dboki89> SPAM: http://portableapps.com/node/17303#comment-146567
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12:25:07 <YingHaur> hello, may i ask, when i click on "Portableapps Platform" Help>Portableapps.com/Support, it always call up my firefox portable, whereas my seamonkey portable is in the "Favourite" & FirefoxPortable is not.
12:28:18 <YingHaur> Anyone active or able to help me? please :)
12:33:54 <YingHaur> Hello?(asking politely, not spamming)
12:36:47 <vf2nsr> I believe that that is the way it is configured regardless of your default
12:38:02 <vf2nsr> It is from with in th ePlatform and can not be changed
12:38:58 <YingHaur> so, i can only make seamonkey as default, if i uninstall firefox?
12:39:37 <vf2nsr> Sea MOnkey can be your default for all else but for teh Platform based web pages it will default to FFP
12:39:48 <vf2nsr> you may want to post the ? in the forum
12:39:57 <YingHaur> okay, thanks :)
12:40:04 <vf2nsr> yqw :)
12:40:07 <YingHaur> :)
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14:06:16 <invalid_username> hello
14:06:36 <invalid_username> is anybody here who knows about the .paf.exe installers?
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19:17:01 <JohnTHaller> hooooooo la
19:28:01 <Gizmokid2005> why hello there JohnTHaller
19:31:58 <Mir> o/
19:32:17 * Mir hopes this new modem works better than the old now dead one
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19:32:37 <JohnTHaller> how goes it in here today?
19:32:40 * Mir pokes a Gizmokid2005
19:32:44 <Gizmokid2005> it goes I do believe JohnTHaller lol
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19:32:46 <Gizmokid2005> hello Mir
19:33:28 <Mir> had to take sick leave from work so i could be at home for the DSL people to come by and now i am waiting for my ride to the bus stop so i can go to the college
19:33:38 <JohnTHaller> No fun
19:33:43 <JohnTHaller> Did they at least show up?
19:34:09 <Mir> yea
19:34:24 <Mir> but i have been out for a bit over a week
19:34:42 <Mir> and i was up in oregon converting people to Portable apps
19:34:47 <Mir> :)
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19:35:03 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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22:17:36 <ZachThibeau> howdy all
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